Daniel Davis Deep Dive

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Speaker 1 (01:04):
AY thirty on a Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
It's that time of the week we get to talk
to retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis to get the Daniel
Davis Deep Dive. Welcome back to the program, Daniel, my friend.
It's a pleasure to have you on as always. Good
to see Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
How were you. I'm doing well, you know, hanging in there.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
As they say, among the problems in the world, I'm
surrounded by all it's it's just a bunch of crap.
Every story you got it is gloom and doom. Four
corners of the universe seem to be troubled, and that's
usually what we end up talking about. So it can
be depressing. But I'm doing fine, and I hope you
can say the same. We've been talking week after week
after week about the latest on Russia and Ukraine, and
I saw some hint of suggestion because Trump apparently had

(01:43):
a meeting with Zelensky when they were overseas, that crimea
might be inder consideration that Zelensky might not have that
red line in the sand. I'm not going to give
an inch of my territory up. But crime has been
taking over by Russia. Now for twelve years as Barack
Obama let it happen, and it's been that way, and
that seems to be part of sort of a foregone

(02:04):
conclusion in all of our prior conversations. You talk about
zelensky lack of willingness to concede any territory. Does he
think that he can somehow get back CRIMEA. I mean
recognizing the relative negotiating powers that we've talked about, and
that he doesn't have a whole lot of of of
power on his side at the negotiation table.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
I gotta tell you, Brian, now, I think that the issue,
and this may sound like a trite statement, but I
mean it genuinely. I think he has become delusional in
his thinking and is not looking at things reality. That's
one of the reasons why I think that President Trump
just has to make whatever decision he thinks is best
for the United States, because he doesn't have a genuine

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partner on the Ukraine side to come up with some
kind of rational plan that they can present as a
as a unified side along with Europe in their negotiations
with Russia.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Because you have Ukraine, you had the Europe.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
I mean, they're literally all over the map over here,
and they're not connected with the reality map that Trump
apparently is, So you see, it's nearly impossible. So the
only thing that is going to make some sense for
President Trump is going to be I'm just gonna have
to make the best deal that I can with Putin
or I'm just gonna have to walk And Rubio mentioned

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that on Sunday again, and I think that that he
said this week will be crucial. And I believe that
Trump is now nearing the point to where he's going
to say, I've tried everything I can with you guys,
but you won't deal with the reality that exists on
the ground. And I'm gonna have to just walk away
and let you guys figure it out for yourself, because
if you're not going to listen to Sam any kind

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of common sense, then I can't do anything for you anyway.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
And that'll be a He'll.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Come under a lot of pressure from that for President Trump,
but only those who are also not willing to look
at reality.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
And I think that's where he's headed.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
So Zlonski's basically operating from position of delusion. I mean,
as anybody sort of slapped him in the face and say,
what do you god, I mean, what is your argument?
I mean, your people are being slaughtered on the battlefield,
and I'll admit that some of the Russians, and I
guess North Koreans as well at this juncture being slaughtered
as well, but not the degree the Ukrainian soldiers are.

(04:17):
They're running out of people to fill the ranks in
the military. This has been going on for quite some time. Meanwhile,
the slaughter goes on. Zelensky's in an untenable position and
yet won't acknowledge it. I guess I just don't understand
why didn't somebody just sort of throttle them.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Right right right that well, I think diplomatically, that's what
Trump is about ready to do, and I think that
he's like you would ordinarily think the head of a
state is somebody that can be dealt with rationally, and
even if you come to a situation you don't lack,
the circumstances aren't to your locking, and therefore you can't
get the outcome that you want. You grudgingly acknowledge what
is and then get the best out of it you can.

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That's kind of normal how that people would work. But
Zelensky is not in a normal position. And I think
that he his situation is exacerbated further and alarmingly so
by leaders in Europe because instead of throttling him, as
you just put it, they instead encourage him.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
And I mean, you've had it all the way through.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
You've had Boris Johnson advise against having the Istanbul agreement
in twenty twenty two, and you've gotten them now. Germany
was unpublished published sized said they suggested Zelensky reject Trump's
plan to quote giveaway crimea and as though there's a

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choice to be made. So that's not just Zelensky, but
it's also the new incoming government from Germany. And then
you have of course back Ron and Secure Starmer of
the UK. They keep talking about this coalition of the willing.
I mean they're feeding into it. So there's a much
bigger problem, quite frankly, going on in the Western world
right now, which complicates this greatly.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
But this pressure on Zelensky to reject the idea of
negotiating some sort of you know, land force deal with Putin.
They haven't stepped up and said we will send our
people in to help and fill the ranks of your
depleted military. There's been no out loud statement from the
European Union leaders to that effect. They're just egging him

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on and having his people continue to go through the
meat grinder.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Am I or am I wrong on that? Oh you're not.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
As a matter of fact, the UK in particular has
gone backwards and said you may recall I want to
say this is late at December, they were talking about
a total European force of two hundred thousand's what they
were looking for. And then they said, well, okay, maybe
one hundred thousand. And then they start looking at the
actual numbers of.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Who could do what. They said, okay, all right, sixty thousand.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
And then the UK said all right, and we'll poney
up maybe thirty thousand, and then they said okay, well
actually maybe ten thousand. And now in this past seven
or so days, it's like, okay, we'll send some trainers
into Ukraine, not even peacekeepers, because they realized they don't
have enough, they can't actually do it. But they're still
talking about this and encouraging Zelensky forward, which has the

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perverse effect that you just laid out there, getting more
Ukrainian slaughtered in a point in this battle they can't
win and they just won't come to graps with reality.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
It's really puzzling.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
What is the state of the I mean, we do
even know what the Ukrainian population wants at this juncture.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
I mean I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
They do surveys and polls. And it's one thing to
be patriotic and say, no, damn it, we're not going
to give the Russians an inch of land. We're going
to get crimea back. But practically speaking, the people on
the ground are the ones that have lost their sons
and their husbands and their grandfathers to this terrible conflict.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
I actually I have talked recently to a former member
of Zelensky's government. I won't say who. I don't want
to throw that person under the bus. But they told
me that the polling that is actually out there shows
that the further away you are from the line of contact,
the less willing you are to recognize reality, and the
more willing you are to say and yes, keep on going,

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even that numbers is coming down. But they said that
when you're up on the front lines, and I'm talking
within like one hundred kilometers or so, those people are
saying this is dumb let's don't do this anymore. We
will just keep losing more territory now than there was
four more villages this morning around the area of Pakrosk
on the Ukraine side, which has received orders to evacuate

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because the Russians are continuing to go forward. Russia gained
twenty seven square kilometers of territory in the last twenty
four hours, so their advances are accelerating, and now more
Ukrainian people are put at risk, and there's more flight
going on inside the country, and you keep seeing that
over and over, and you just got to ask yourself,
how much worse does it have to get before you

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finally come to a recognition that the war can't even
be stopped much less one. But unfortunately, it looks like
that there is no end inside and so that means
this by definition, Russia will eventually conquer what it wants
on the ground, aside from the negotiation, because they don't
have a partner that they feel that can discuss it with.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, every day that goes by, they lose even more
negotiating power, not that they have a whole lot to
start with. Daniel Davis, So I wish we had some
really positive news that come from that front. But it's well,
you get the leader.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
At least President Trump is grounded in reality and he's
trying to do something that nobody else had done. It's
definitely the previous administration. So there is some positive on that.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, hey, real quick, just you your thumbnail sketch boiled
down take on our military strikes against the against the Hoothies.
We've been dropping all kinds of bombs on them lately.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah, we've been dropping bombs and we've been losing drones,
these multimillion dollar drones. I think like seven of them
in the last week or so. And then I don't
know if you noticed, but yesterday in the Red Sea,
one of the Hoothy missiles came so close to the
aircraft carrier, one of the air correct careers we have
in there that we had to maneuver out in this
emergency situation and lost an F eighteen over the side.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
How does that droppen?

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Man?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
How does that happen? Because they were just.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Doing a normal move on their on their hangar by
moving a plane around, when all of a sudden they
had an emergency requirement to uh maneuver away from a ship,
I mean away from an anti missile ship, any ship missile,
and because of that the ship lists very heavily to
the side and it literally rolled into the sea.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, what an embarrassment for the United States military on
that score.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
This is a mission. We can't fight. We can't win
this militarily. All we're gonna do is lose millions of dollars.
Now it's into the billions in the curtain in terms
of the missile too, and you're not gonna knock them out.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
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Speaker 1 (10:43):
Uh again.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Sometimes depressing Daniel, but always interesting, stand up on top
of things, speaking truth to in the face of insanity.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
DL said, thanks next week.

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