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Speaker 1 (00:45):
Nine fifty five KRCD Talk station, and that time of
the week we get to hear from retired Lieutenant Colonel
Daniel Davis doing the Daniel Davis Deep Dive. You can
find that podcast online and see what Daniel talks about
throughout the week. Welcome back, my friend. It's always a
real pleasure having on my program.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Always look forward to this every week. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And let's start with Ukraine, because I know we can
talk about Israel Goza too, and maybe we'll get to that.
But I've seen a couple of articles. Man, the situation
in Ukraine is getting just outright desperate. A couple of
fun facts. Average Ukrainian soldiers already forty or older. They
have a pre war population of forty one million. It's
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now down to between twenty eight and thirty million. Six
and a half million Ukrainians have fled the country. There
are millions under Russian occupation rule, so they're not accessible.
They put out a a A. Zelensky signed a law
now allowing Ukrainians over the age of sixty to join
the military and non combat roles to free up I
guess those non combat younger people to go to the
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front lines. They can't get anybody to sign up anymore.
They're looking for signing bonuses. Only twelve percent of the
new recruits had joined voluntarily last year. The rest were conscripted.
They're doing protests in the street because viral videos are
going around with these Ukrainian recruit guys just grabbing people
off the streets and send them off the military service.
This situation sounds desperate, Daniel, I mean, am I missing
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something on this or have I got this right?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
The only thing you're missing is that there was an
additional report that I saw yesterday where one of the
members of the Ukrainian Parliament was complaining, saying, listen, we
are suffering so many casualties, and we are losing over
one thousand people per day killed and wounded, and this
is the big bombshells, he said, And over five hundred
per day are abandoning the fight, going a wall, just leaving,
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just deserting their units.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
She goes. We cannot sustain this.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
She goes, we may literally be running out of people
before the end of the year and have no army.
I mean, she was really sounded the alarm. But then,
of course you'd never know that from listening to Zelensky,
because he keeps just talking like there's no problem here
and we're just going to keep fighting and we're going
to reject every opportunity for a diplomatic outcome.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
So yeah, there's a problem.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Well, and he's pleading the European Union to give money
to them so they can afford to pay the soldiers more.
I guess as a dangling carrot or something. But that
made me pivot over the economic impact that this war
has had on the country itself. Is anybody doing work,
Is anybody you know performing labor that results in taxpayer
dollars going into support the Ukrainian government for whatever it
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needs to do. I mean, with that many people gone
and the country being war torn, I don't know how
people are even living their lives at this point, Daniel Davis, Right,
And a.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Lot of that money doesn't just go for soldiers that
they're requesting, right, It goes to it just to pay
civil servants to keep the government functioning, because exactly what
you said, they don't have the tax receipts to just
fund the normal operations of their government. So you're talking
millions upon millions of dollars every day just to keep
the government running. So they can't do that unless they
have a NonStop trough feeding in from Western Europe.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Western Europe is also struggling economic please, so I just
don't see how any of this is sustainable yet.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
You have sudg just Elenski.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
It's the Western leadership that just stays just myopically focused
on ex putting some kind of a strategic defeat on Russia.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Without the means to do so. And that's the irrational part.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
That's just causing the Ukraine country to just continue to
be ground to dust.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Which I suppose feeds into Russia's position on this matter.
I mean, they don't have to move away from their position.
We've I mean, we sound like a broken record at
this juncture. Daniel Davis talking about this. Russia's position keeps
getting stronger the more the day's roll on. That just
means every day there's a thousand less Ukrainian soldiers on
the front line, or maybe fifteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
But if this is a battle of attrition, Russia clearly
has the ball in its court. Why would they even
bother to negotiate? I mean, and what's with this deadline?
There's a ceasefire deadline on Friday. I mean, I don't
even know what that means.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Well, well, yeah, I mean what it means, and is
even more puzzling because President Trump, I think it was yesterday, ready,
the day before clarified.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yes, this deadline is firm.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
It is this Friday, the eighth of August, and probably
there will be some sanctions put in. But then interestingly,
he adds, but it probably won't do any good. It
probably won't make them change their mind. And then one
has to wonder, Look, it's not just sanctions on Russia,
it's secondary sanctions on China, India, Brazil and several anyone
who does business with Russia in the the pedrocarbons area
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for oil and gas, and that look, we're already having
huge trouble getting the normal deals signed with specially with
all three of those actually, and especially India that's the
biggest one, because China's already kind of antagonistic, but India's
kind of is pliable to be our friend or our ada.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Exactly. This is not gonna help us. So I just
don't understand where we're going with this.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Well that I mean, you suggest Trump's kind of back
into a corner along those lines. He doesn't want to
alienate India, and he is trying to get a better
relationship with China and so far as trade deals are concerned.
So this had throw a giant monkey wrench into the
whole process. I think you know the bluff has been
called here. It appears well, it does appear that. Unfortunately.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
You say he's back into a corner, But he was
the one that made the corner, because he's the one
who added this or created this deadline. So I don't
really understand why he did that. Maybe he thought just
the threat of it would cause Russia to do something.
I don't know why he initially did it, but now
he is himself acknowledging that it's unlikely, and I would
say impossible, not even unlikely. There's no chance, zero chance
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that Russia would submit to what Trump wants, which would
only benefit the Ukraine side. They'll never do that, and
so the front line is going to continue to be
chewing up y Ukraine troops and Russia will not stop.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
They clearly will not. Well, let us assume, for the
sake of discussion, you had a more rational, thoughtful, contemplative
leader in Ukraine, someone who was willing to acknowledge how
bad the situation is for them, someone who might be
willing to acknowledge some concessions to the Russians in terms
of some of the Russian dominated areas that they have
already taken over conceding a partial victory to Russia. That
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is a possibility to resolve the broader conflict before Ukraine
gets completely rolled over, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
That's one of the things that the Russian side themselves
say that they are really frustrated about. That deal that
you said has been on the table offered from the
Russian side since June of last year.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, not this past June.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
They've been saying it over and over and they have
never deviated from that, and they're still saying the same things.
It's a draconian issue, there's no question about it. It's
an ugly deal for Ukraine, without question. But it's much better,
or maybe a better way to say it, it's much
less worse than the current situation where you're dying by
the large, by the bucket loads every day. Just imagine
how many people in Ukraine have been killed since June
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of last summer, and how many could have been saved
if they had had the same deal and instead of
the worst one that they're gonna end up with. If
Russia just physically mows all the way to Kiev. That's
what that the woman said that the parliamentarian if nothing changes,
Russia could be at the gates of kiv by the
end of this year.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Wow, well, any change, chances for an administration changed, there
a coup or something, I know, Marshal Osman declared, which
is the only reason is Lensky is still currently president.
I mean, if you've got people protesting in the streets
over you know, snatching young men off the streets and
throwing them into the army against their will, if you
have people fleeing the country in order to avoid that,
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it sounds to me like the population of Ukraine might
choose a different direction in terms of leadership.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
So far, there there is an increasing number that's doing that,
but so far the numbers of support for Zelensky are
still quite especially in the western parts where they don't
see the aspects of war. A lot of the people
in the eastern part where all the fighting and dying
and destroying is happening, which are large percentage of ethnic Russians.
Actually there's there are a lot worse Zelensky and the
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other people in the other part of the country. So
in terms of the people uprising, there's there's doesn't appear
to be any in imminent danger, but there are rumors
that some of the other folks in Ukraine, so they
as all kind of the folks, other even possibly European people,
are tired of dealing with him, and there's some suggestion
that he consider stepping down, et cetera. But so far
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those are all just reports, and you know, someone anonymous
is reporting, so we don't know how valid those are.
But Zelenski can't help but be pretty nervous these days.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I imagine. So I'm sorry we're at a time we
can't get to Gaza and Israel. Something suggests to me
that that topic will still be alive and well for
our conversation next Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Daniel Davis Deep Dive.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
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