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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fifty five KARC the talk station, a twenty.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Nine to fifty five krsite talk station. Tuesday means it
is time for the alliterative podcast, Daniel Davis Deep Dive.
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and Tuesdays on the fifty five Karose Morning Show. Welcome back,
retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis Deep Dive boy, and we've
got a lot to talk about today. Good to see
you again. I get to see it good here. It's
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a pleasure. Well, the whole world was on full display yesterday.
I had representatives from I think every country or every
continent rather except Australia showing up for the well the
initial signing of what looks like, dare I even say
the words out loud, peace in the Middle East, at
least between Israel and Hamas. What an amazing development your
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reaction on this. The stars clearly aligned for a variety
of different reasons which allowed this to come together. But
I think the idea that you've got what I will
characterize as the world the leaders from the world on
one side, and you've got Hamas obviously isolated from a
global perception they were backed into a corner.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Well, they were in your right that there were many,
many reasons why this came together.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I would say at the outset that I would not
go as far as to say peace.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I would say that the end of the hostilities have happened,
and there is a shot at peace. But even within
the terms that are set out here, there is a
two phased operation.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Phase one was basically.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
A ceasefire and a return of the hostages from both sides,
which has taken place.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
But Phase two hasn't even been.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Negotiated yet, and there's still a lot of problems to
go with that.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
So I don't want to get too optimistic, but I am.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Incredibly grateful and happy that the cessation of hostilities has happened,
because I've always said, you've got to get the killing
of the innocent people stopped first to even have a
shot at.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
An enduring peace. And it's going to be really hard.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
But listen, we got to give props to a President
Trump because he put it. It's not just that Hamas
was isolated, they've been oscillated. It's also that President Trump
was willing to put pressure in both directions on Hamas
and on the Israeli side, because as you'd certainly know,
there's many on the Israeli side that did not want
a ceasefire. They only wanted a military victory. So everybody
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had to give a little something to get here, and
President Trump put the pressure wherever it needed, and then
he got the support from all those countries across the world,
like you mentioned, So he gets full props for that
and our great hope that this does translate into an
enduring peace.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, and no one is more hesitant to declare peace
in the Middle East than me, Sir. I've been down
this road before, only to be met with disappointment. So yeah,
as I've repeatedly said on the show, here devil's in
the details. One of those devils though, talking about, you know,
getting the players to negotiate getting the border with Egypt
open to allow the back and forth flow of humanity
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and humanitarian relief, and that was a big step as well.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
And then in fact this I think that they're getting
nearly all the old fish and all the entrances opened
up so that you can get up to four hundred
trucks per day for now ramping.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Up to six hundred.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
That's to plan anyway, We'll see if that happens, but
that is a massive increase over what it has been.
And also there were only four feeding spots for the
entire Goszel strip. Almost all of the three of the
four were in the far south. Now then they're going
to spread that back out. See I guess the initial
withdrawal line, the so called yellow line perhaps you heard
about that was that will still leave Israel in control
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of about fifty eight percent of the strip.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
So in that remaining forty two percent, now more.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Vehicles with food is going in to start alleviating and
ending the suffering that was going on with the food shortages.
So that's another good a good start on there. But
like I say, there's still a lot of challenges to
face even in the near term.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Now and you're better, you're obviously more knowledgeable and skilled
at understanding what's going on. But within Hamas, they apparently
are fighting amongst themselves inside Gaza. What I perceive is
something along the lines of the movie The Life of
Brian from Monty Python. You get the Judean People's Front,
you get the People's Front of Judea you got the
campaign for free Galley, and they're all splitter organizations, all
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of them collectively hate the Romans and this case, all
of them collectively hate the Israelis. But they don't sound
like they're as coordinated as I think I was led
to believe, or maybe the world was led to believe
under one hamas tight umbrella. That's why, at least I understand.
This is where you are to correct me when I'm wrong.
Why they can't identify or locate some of these dead hostages.
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They don't quite know where they are because they're being
held by various splitter organizations, or am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, yeah, I'll address both of those issues. First of all,
with the issue with the hostage part of the problem.
In fact, the main problem with identifying the deceased hostages
is that many of them were buried or I guess
just laid in some of the areas where subsequent Israeli
airstrikes level the buildings and the whole thing got buried.
So they don't even know where they are or can't
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reach them, and so that's going to take a lot
of time. And you've seen all those pictures of the
whole Gaza strip basically being rubbled. So it's understandable that
that's going to be incredibly difficult as far as that goes.
But the second issue there, I think bear's some analysis
that there have been significant firefights between Palestinians and Hamas
of late, because listen, many times I think on your show,
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I've had issue with the Israeli government of well, the
things they do, they're the ones that are dropping bombs,
et cetera. But man, you can't go much farther without
saying that Hamas has been the absolute most catastrophic thing
to happen to the Palestinian people since this thing began,
because whatever they thought they were going to accomplish on
ten seven two, twenty twenty three, the end result has
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been mass destruction of the entire place and the suffering
of the Palestinian people.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
They're tired of that, they're tired of.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
The as you said, they're tired of the Israeli side
who's been putting the bombs, but they're as tired and
maybe more so on the guys that kept this going.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So they want them to get out.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
They want them to leave and give them a chance
to actually have some sort of deal going forward.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Where they can have a chance and a hope for
a future.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And I think that if Hamas doesn't make good on
its promises to leave, et cetera, they may find more
trouble with the Palestinians than with the Idaf.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Isn't that what I'll say, local conflict like within Gaza
and among the leadership of the Maas or lack thereof.
Isn't that sort of the general concept that the Middle
East is now sort of embracing, beginning with the abraham
peace of courts. If we all just agree that we're
tired of terrorists, we're tired of fighting each other. If
we just start trading and playing nice together, regardless of
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our differences, we're all going to benefit economically. It's going
to be a powerhouse area of the world. Just put
the damn guns down. So it's kind of a miniature
version of the broader challenge in the Middle East, which
seems we are definitely making progress toward resolution these conflicts
between the various Arab countries.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Well, listen, the Gulf Corporation Council has been for more
than a year emphatically saying a lot of those things
they say we want to have improved relations with Israel.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Of course President Trump.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
It's his signature thing, so he would love the Abraham
Accords to expand. Israel has recently said that they want
ned Yahu specifically, they want normalized relations with the rest
of the Middle East. So that is on the table
that all the main parties have an interest in doing that,
but that's going to require some giving, especially on the
Israeli side, because, like I said, internally, a lot of
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them want to have a military victory here and then
they want to get this other stuff. But if it
doesn't it results in the Palestinian people having some kind
of future and a hope, and whether that's a distant
possibility for a state of their own or some kind
of autonomous freedom where they can thrive.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
As a people, at least the hope of it.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Then the rest of the GCC probably is not going
to be willing to do that. But if they can
get there, then I think we actually have a broader shot.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
There is a possibility, there's.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
A path to potential piece, but it's going to take
a lot a lot of hard work, but it is there.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
So that is good news.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Step in the right direction and connection with the Middle East.
I'll take any step in the right direction. Daniel Davis
really quickly. You mentioned Hamas. Obviously they've been the disrupting factor.
They ruled that area, they were the governing force. Who
steps in If we assume Hamas is out, what coalition
or what group of acceptable people is going to step
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in to provide the leadership for this region.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well, that's what's going to have to That's part of
the fly in the ointment the difficulties because Israel has
said they have to approve whoever goes in. But the
Palestinians say, we want to choose who is going to
lead us, not have it given by the you know,
our enemy that over the.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Last two years, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
There is a guy named more Marwan Bukhari who is
long respected among all the different Palestinian factions and they
want him, but for some reason, Israel has not released
him yet, even though they asked him in this prisoner
exchange that just happened.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
We'll see how that works out.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
But the Palestinians, minus Hamas, they want to decide that
on their own, and that's one of the next near
term challenges.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Certainly, I can understand their one two the right to
self determination, pivoting over as we must Russia Ukraine. I
read this horrific statistic, and you and I have talked
about the fog of war. How many people are actually
dying and being killed in the Russian Ukraine conflict. Politico
article Russia bleeds troops for microscopic frontline gains initial sentence.
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Russia lost two hundred and eighty one thousand, five hundred
and fifty soldiers in Ukraine in the first eight months
of this year.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I'll just tell you, I don't believe that for a second.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
And well, I was gonna say, even if it's half
of that, we lost what fifty four thousand Americans fighting
the Vietnam War for more than a decade, fifteen plus years.
I mean, if this number is even half of that,
the amount of life loss is just amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah. I don't think it is even half that.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
And you've seen the Institute for the Study of War,
which is big time pro Ukraine, revealed over the last
couple of months, especially that Russia has significantly changed its
tactics to where they have focused on firepower to destroy
the Ukraine armed forces and minimized the exposure to their troops.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And they are succeeding at that.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And I have recently talked to two separate people in
the US military hierarchy, i'll just say with access to
classified information, and they have not revealed the exact information,
but they said that that is wildly out of proportion,
that that's what people want people to believe in the
West so that they keep supporting to think they're succeeding.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But they said it is not true.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Russia is not suffering anywhere near those kind of casualties,
and you see that on the front because they continue
to go forward as opposed to the Ukraine side, which
is suffering those casualties, and that's why it's so hard
for them to bring all these reserves and even shore
up the line, and they're making significant losses in the
Koupiansk and in the other areas of the Donetzk Front
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that have really started.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
To pick up speed here of late.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
So it's not I think some people want that to
sound like it's good news for the Ukraine side, but
it's more bad news as far as I can see,
and even more reason why we need to get this
war wrapped up even more.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Well, your comments are reflective of exactly why I brought
this up because I read the statistic this morning with
a huge measure of skepticism because where do they pull
these figures from. I don't know, but the volume of
casualties just seemed unimaginable. Any chance that peace might break out,
given that we've got some steps in the right direction
between Israel and Hamas, that it might catch on between
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Russia and Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Well, President Trump wants that and he would love to
have it.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
The Russians, obviously they would like to have it too,
on their terms. The problem is, and I just got
to be honest, the problem is that the Ukraine side
and the European side don't. They only want peace on
their terms, and their pressure hard to get them. That's
why Zelenski will be in town on Friday to talk
to President Trump to try and really get him to
release Tomahawk missiles, which Trump said he would consider doing.
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I hope he doesn't, and I don't think that he
really is, because that would only exacerbate and raise higher
the possibility of a clash with Russia, which they said.
This is different because a Tomahawk missile can contain a
nuclear warhead wher the others can't, so it's a bigger
red line. I don't want to find out if they
mean that or not, so I'm all for getting this
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deal wrapped up quickly.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Amen to that, Daniel Davis, and Plus you also pointed
out in our previous conversations, if we give him tomahawks,
it's going to require American military personnel to operate them,
which means we're in a fighting war with Russia and
nobody wants that. Daniel Davis, deep dive. Always a distinct
pleasure to have you on the fifty five Carsy Morning
Show every Tuesday. God bless you, sir. I'll look forward
to next Tuesday, another discussion.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
See you next week.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Take care of my friend. It's eight forty one right now,
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