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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Fighting Souls from the Sky, Fearless men who jump and die, men.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Who mean just what they say. Love, Brave Men of
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I can see him doing it. The only pro Vietnam
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Daniel Davis, retired Lieutenant Colonel for the Daniel Davis Deep Dive.
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Finding where you find your podcast just search for Daniel
Davis Deep Dive. And of course let me start off
by thanking you for your well on your your service
to our country, which is currently ongoing in the form
of your commentary related to military matters. It's great to
have you on the show again, Daniel Davis.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Thank you very much. Always a great pleasure to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Happy Veterans Day, sir. Before we get to, of course,
whatever's going on between Israel and the Palestinians and Russia
and Ukraine, which apparently took a turn for the worse
for Ukraine recently, I want to ask you about your
your reaction to yesterday's meeting with the Syrian president. He's
agreed to enter into a coalition to fight ISIS and
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terrorism and generally stabilize the region in return for reductionist
sanctions from the US and playing along economically for his
citizen's own benefit. Bashar al Asad would never have done this,
and I didn't think in my lifetime we'd ever see
a step toward this type of agreement, as limited as
it may be in my lifetime, considering Syria being Syria.
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Your reaction to the development from yesterday, Sir, I.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Gotta say I'm torn, and I'm gonna hold my judgment
until we see what happens in time, clearly because we
can't lose side of the fact that just a few
months ago this guy was had a ten million dollar
i think reward on his head by the US government
for there are terrorist activities that he had done, and
he is part of Alnwiser, as part of ISIS and
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several others what we considered terrorist groups, and then you
know he has a change of heart.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I am all about doing what makes sense for our country,
and if we can make a deal with somebody that
increases our security, that causes us to be able to
redeploy and leave troops behind, that we have in Syria
right now, which I'm told by a certain member of
the administration just days ago that that is the case,
that we were planning to remove all of our troops
from Syria by September of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Big time supporter of that. Yes, if this works.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
And if it holds, and if it brings peace and
help to the people of Syria and reduces our exposure
in the region, then it's a great thing and I'm
all for it.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Well, I guess it's like.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
The Italians getting rid of Mussolinian getting away from the
Axis Powers before World War Two is over. Maybe he
realized he's on the losing side and this growing coalition
of what I'll well down to the in the idea
of the Abraham of Coorse, let's play nice together for
our own mutual benefit and put aside our differences. Maybe
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he just sees that is the future for the region.
This is where my optimism comes from, Daniel Davis. Maybe
it's false.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, Well, look, self interest is definitely at play here.
And if we know anything at all about a lot
of the way things work in the air world for decades,
and you could probably go back centuries.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
The friend of my friend.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
A friend of my enemy is my friend, and if
he sees a benefit to work together with us today,
he can do it. And if things change two years
from now, he'll do that too. And you know, we
certainly can't forget the time when we had during the
Sons of Iraq, during our big problem that we had
with him during the two thousand and five seven period,
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all of a sudden, for reasons that made sense to
them on the ground, they joined forces with us after
having been fighting us the day before, and then all
of a sudden, now then we're their friends, were giving
them money, and that dramatic we reduce the amount of
violence against the American troops and eventually pay the way
for us to leave our combat troops there at least
for a period of time. So it can work, but
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you have to understand it's a transient thing, and the
minute that things change for them, they'll change on the
other side. So we have to always keep a wary
eye on that.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Well, back to your concept before, when the Russians had
invaded Afghanistan, we cuddled up with the m Jahadeen and
some of the other just because they are against the Russians.
And then where do we find our once we go
into Afghanistan. I hate to laugh over that tragedy, but
there's another illustration of your point. The enemy of my
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enemy is my friend until the other enemy is not
there anymore. Daniel Davis, let us move over. Apparently, I
see the headline we are losing polk Rovos, Russia Near's
biggest gain since Bachhmut this this morning, and that obviously
means territorial gains to the advantage of the Russians, but
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also on the heels of and we experienced our first
win blast here in the greater Cincinnati areas down to
the twenties, and we had to deal with some snow
on the ground. That happened on the same day I
read about Russia hitting a lot of Ukrainians power sources,
ultimately resulting in zero power or energy, which I perceived
to be as freezing Ukrainians. So amid all this, what's
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your assessment of the situation between those two countries.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
The situation in pakrolskis is almost completely gone. The city
of Pakrosk itself is all but gone. There's just a
few outlying neighborhoods and groupings of buildings on the very
far outskirts on the north and northeastern quadrants of the city.
The bigger issue is that there are some number of
thousands of Ukrainians trapped in the sister city of Mirinograd
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right next to it. There's another grouping in the south
and kind of a forested, patched area where Ukraine has
been defending for quite a long time. They're now physically
surrounded and Ukraine is fighting really hard on a city
call Rodenska, actually it's more like a medium sized town
up north of that. They're trying fiercely to try to
break through the Russian positions, to try and open up
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a corridor so that those troops in Mirnograd can escape.
It remains to be seen whether they'll succeed on that.
They haven't in many other areas, because Russia, according to
General Sirski from the Ukrainian Armed Forces, has about one
hundred and fifty thousand reserve forces in the area, and
if Ukraine serves to have success there, it seems reasonable
to presume that Russia would flood those reserves in and
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close that off.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
If Russia is completely able to close the pinchers.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
And Ukraine can't unblock it, it's not just the loss
of the city, the political loss, but then it'll be
the twin cities lost and all the troops that are
trained profited as well, and it's going to be a
real big problem, even bigger.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Than it might seem.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And then there's issues going on also in the Kupeonsk area.
There was a overnight there was reports that Russia had
crossed a certain river inside there and taken a rail
station that was deep inside Ukraine lines. And then some
other areas also on this Slabyansky Chromatursk area of the
Donetsk All of this is really starting to get pretty wabbly,
and it could be a really ugly winter for not
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just the people there on the front line, but also
back in the capital city and other places. And also,
I don't know if you saw in the New York
Times is reporting yesterday there's been this big problem inside
the Ukraine government where one of the guys that we
were helping funnel money into Ukraine for drone production turns
out he was actually siphoning off the top to the
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tune of one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
He has now fled.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
There's a man hunt for him, and by the way,
he was a really close confidant of Vloid mr Zelinsky.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
So not a good look for the Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Size, and which confirms what many people in my listening audience,
and certainly I include myself in this group. You know
what's really happening to all the money? I mean, the
fog of war is bad enough, and when you're funding
a war or a lot of money can go by
the wayside and go missing. We've seen this time and
time and time and time and time again with dictators
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or regimes that we've supported when they have to flee
the country because they get overrun. They end up on
a plane with billions of US dollars in currency and
live lavish lives in the aftermath. So I can't abide
any of that. So I does this do these losses
or you know, impending losses, what's going on right now
with the surrounding of the troops, does that create an
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opportunity perhaps for Zelenski to maybe say, listen, we can't
afford this loss of life anymore in the name of humanity.
We're going to negotiate a peace agreement that it does
in fact involves the conceding some of the land to
the Russians in order to end this bloody conflict. I mean,
some point, somebody's got to say that out loud.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
No, no, I don't.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I think that we have passed that point, because he
showed when they refuse to give a similar order to
preserve their troops Bachmut nearly two years ago in Avdifka.
Shortly after that in the Kursk operation where they had
this penetration into Russia which never had any prayer of
accomplishing anything for Ukraine, they ended up sacrificing about seventy
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thousand killed, and of course after eight months you couldn't
tell they were ever there.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
It was a complete and total loss.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
And now here we are in Kromatura or sorry, in Vokrosk,
in the Milograd area, the same dynamic.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
They refuse to get them out.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Now they're trying belatedly to break them out, but we
don't even know that that's what they're doing. They may
simply be trying to re establish it. They may not
be trying to get them out. So even if they
broke through, who knows whether they would allow their troops
to leave. I doubt it, and his Zelenski's commentary continues
to be really boisterous and kind of in your face,
and we're not giving up anything.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So no, I don't think they'll come a point.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I think that either we're going to have to pull
the plug on him or he's going to take his
country to complete destruction.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Were you kind of anticipated what I was going to
ask you on along those lines, Let's say, a couple
of years ago, the idea of US military aid, and
of course European military aid was still a pretty strong concept.
We were giving them aid, we were entertaining questions for
more missiles, et cetera, et cetera. I think we got
the end of our rope on that we've all talked
about supply chain issues, the expense of patriot missiles versus
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the actual drones that they're that are being used in war,
and the ridiculous notion of using patriots against drones, Tomahawk missiles,
and any equation. We talked about the having to need
American soldiers and troops to actually operate those, which is
a big red flag for most people. But given what
and again correct me, because you're following this far more
close closer than I am, it just seems to me
that the idea based on everything you've even said on
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this right, Ukraine is losing and it seems that all
the weapons in the world are not going to better
at situation militarily, as this war rage is on that
maybe that practical reality is kind of settled in somewhere
in Ukraine, whether or not Zelensky has he seems to
just be just you know, spitting in the wind or
something like that. He's not facing reality. So is there
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a different element, perhaps a play here given the global perception.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, well, I'll tell you there's an additional problem that
cannot be overlooked, and that is the fact that Zelensky
is being greatly encouraged and supported emotionally and otherwise by Europe.
And you have here Starmer of uk Manuel Macrone of France,
Chancellor Metz from Germany. They are emphatically and enthusiastically saying, no,
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keep going, don't stop in Britain. Here's some more storm
shadow missiles you can fire deeper into Russia, and here's
some other components you need. You can hit Russia's oil infrastructure,
et cetera. And they're doing some of that. And on
the one hand, you may say, well, that's fair game.
You're in a war, they can do that, and that's fine,
and as long as it produces something positive for your
side and gives you a chance to either succeed or
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push the Russians back. But if all it does is
infuriate the Russians and it's not a fraction enough to
change the dynamics, and all you do is increase the
chance that Ukraine will be crushed and there won't be
a negotiat settlement.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
They'll just be a defeat. That's what I really had problem.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So it's not just Zelensky, but it's the European leaders
who are definitely detached from reality.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
So you confirm what I was thinking in the back
of my mind. In spite of yeah, they continue to
encourage a man who's delusional, which suggests they too are
delusional with regard to the perception of the war.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Either they're delusional or they're just unconcerned about the cost
on the Ukraine side, And as long as they can
get people to hit Russia and cause them pain on
the way out, they're okay with it, which then you
get into these just flat immorality of it, and I
fear were as much in there as we are delusion.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Or maybe we're missing a little piece here, because of
course we've issued tons and tons of sanctions on Russia.
We're trying to prevent them from selling their oil in
the open market, we're trying to impact their economy. Maybe
these quick hits and strikes on you know, energy production
facilities and oil facilities that may not mean a whit
militarily speaking, is having a greater impact on Russia's economy,
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thus achieving a broader objective.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
If there was some evidence to that, then that would
be a legitimate because that is a legitimate concept, but
only in so far as it actually works. And when
you have seen nineteen rounds of if sanctions not have
any effect whatsoever on the front line, and you can
draw a logical line that number twenty, which they're working
on right now, and we're talking about literally just yesterday.
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If nineteen field maybe twenty will work, it's absurd. And
then what you can't do with what these sanctions are
is draw a line to how that's going to impact
Russia that would in any way affect the political decision
making in Moscow. As a matter of fact, all it's
doing is doubling down the certainty within Russia and within
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the political realm that there's.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
No talking here. All we need to do is completely win.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
So it's having literally the opposite effect, and you can
observe it. So now we seem to return back again
to the delusional thing.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
We want this to work.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I just going to pretend that it will, even though
evidence screams that it won't.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
So we have some really big problems in the West.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Straight talk from you, man, We can always count on that.
So I love having you on the show. Daniel Davis
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God bless you, sir, and again a very happy Veterans Day,
and thanks from my entire listening audience for your service
to our country.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Sir, Thank you very kindly. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
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