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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Seventy four due to an accident. Chuck Ingram fifty five
KRSS the Talk Station.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey, twenty eight Here fifty five KRC the Talk Station.
It is Tuesday. Staying in the obvious regular listeners know
it is that time of week. We get to talk
to retire lieun Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis and doing what
he calls in his podcast, what I call the alliterative podcast.
It is the Daniel Davis Deep Dive. Welcome back, my
dear friend. It's always a pleasure to having you on
the fifty five KRS Morning Show.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I look forward to this more than my own shows.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I think, y you're so kind, Daniel. I enjoy the
back and forth. Although we haven't been able to solve
the problems in the world over the year or two
that we've been doing this, it is a thoroughly welcome
exchange of well real time and genuine information about what's
going on in the world. I see Donald Trump, and
I want to start with Ukraine and the efforts to
negotiate a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia. This, obviously,
(00:49):
you've been talking about for a very long time, the
United States providing a security guarantee for Ukraine, i'llah Article
five of an ATO Defense Alliance treaty. This requires NATO
country and much in the if they were a member
of NATO, it would go along with the security guarantee.
If one country gets attacked, we all come to the defense.
(01:11):
This is not Ukraine joining NATO but getting the benefits
of the Article five security agreement, which means, effectively, aren't
they getting the best benefit of being a NATO country
without formally calling them that.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Well, listen, Brian, I'm gonna put this in the category
of I'll believe it when I see it, right, because
I mean, we're not gonna President Trump has been emphatic
from the beginning of saying that NATO is a no go,
that NATO was one of the strong causes of this
war in the first place because of the threat that
Russia felt. He said he understood that. So the last
(01:43):
thing I think that he's going to do is to
give any kind of a security guarantee that's quasi NATO,
whether you call it NATO or not. But if it
has anything like an actual teethy Article five, I just
can't see. I mean, I literally see no chance. So
I hear I've seen those statements in report rest reports,
but nobody has provided the details yet of what that
(02:04):
actually means, what it looks like. And I imagine when
you do, you'll see a whole lot of water being
poured on some of these guarantees, because I don't think
they're gonna be worth the paper they're written on if
they ever even see the light of day.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Okay, fair enough, And we'll wait to see what happens
with that, because that's the concern I have. That's effectively
that's our that's our foray into World War three right there,
much in the same way if they were remembers now.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
And plus Russia would never agree to it.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
If you're looking for something that people are going to
agree to, they would never agree to that.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So it's it's dead on.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
A rival, all right. Fair enough? Now. The other thing
I wanted to pivot over to along the same lines,
this artic Wall Street Journal article from yesterday, After a
generation of Peace of Europe tells it's people to prepare
for war. They are ramping up their concerns, all the
elected officials, folks of the European Union about well, the
Russians are coming over the hill. They're getting ready to
(02:55):
invade US and Frederick Mertz to Germany the chancellor. If
Ukraine falls, he won't job putting, just like the student
plan wasn't enough. In nineteen thirty eight, referring to Adolf
Hitler's invasion of portion of Czechoslovakia, NATO Secretary General Mark
Ruddy said, conflict is at our door. We must be
prepared for the scale of war our grandparents and great
(03:17):
grandparents endured. I mean, they're talking World War three level
conflict here now. During our prior conversations, Daniel, you've kind
of suggested, and I've been tending to agree with you,
that Russia is not going to invade Poland, which was
one of the countries they said was gonna be the
next Domino to follow or to fall. It's taken him
so long to accomplish what they've gotten in Ukraine so far.
(03:40):
If they do attack a NATO country, they have all
of the NATO countries under the Article five Security Agreement
coming up to defend whichever country is attacked first. It
doesn't sound like a recipe for success with Russia.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
That's why we've got you, Daniel Davis.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, and listen to all those things you just mentioned.
Add this morning you had the new head of mi
I six say that Russia is the pacing threat and
the biggest concern that they have on an intelligence basis,
and then Air Vice Marshall for the UK said that listen,
we have to be ready to sack it.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
And I'm not making this up.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Sacrifice our sons and daughters if necessary in order to
keep us safe from Russia.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
We're that kind of an issue.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
So it's gaining momentum, all these threats and warnings, et cetera,
that they're openly telling their people in the UK they
have to be ready to sacrifice their sons and daughters
for this war that should never be fought. So the
issue is quite alarming and it's something that needs to
get cushed quickly. But look Russia has said, and just
in the past, I guess seven or eight days Putin
(04:45):
has said again mocked, he goes this idea, I don't
Why would I even want to go into any of
your countries?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
We don't.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
And then he said, but if you come to us
and you fight us.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
We will fight.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
We are ready today and we will fight that war
we don't want, but guaranteed that we will and when
you look at their capability, and I'm talking to you.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Not just how many tank planes and the troops that
people have.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Those are important, but what is crucial, absolutely vital in
a war of potential war of attrition, is to your
defense industrial base and how many men you have. And
Russia dwarfs the entirety of NATO in those categories, and
of course they have all the combat experience and we
have almost none, just little inciliary by watching Ukraine, but
(05:29):
that's about it, but none of us actually doing it.
So we are not ready to fight a war, and
if people want to get one and start one, we're
not going to do well in this. Let me just
tell you right off the bat.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well, then, what is the purposes of all this what
I will call dangerous rhetoric from the European Union elected officials?
Why are they ramping up all this talk?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
It is insane, I'll just start right there. It is
insane because there is no reason whatsoever to have to
even think about fighting a.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
War with Russia. There's no reason why they would want to.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
There was a lot of reason why they would want
to go into the Donbas area, why they would want
to go into part of Ukraine. They've been signaling that
for fifteen years. Prior to this one. They had always
signaled the opposite here, So there's no reason that's important,
first of all. But secondly, what I think is going
back to February twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I'm sorry to April.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Twenty twenty two, when we had a chance to have
a negotiated settlement and the UK and the Biden administration
both worked against it and sabotaged. Zelinski was this close
to agreeing to it. They convinced him to sabotage it,
and then they said, no, let's defeat them. So twenty
twenty three they want to have this big offensive to
drive Russia out. It totally failed, and ever since that time, Brian,
(06:45):
they'd been trying to make up good for it and
not be seen as being weak that we are, and
so they keep doubling down on the failure. And now
then this particular failure would be the worst of all
because you could literally spawn a war between us.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Which all too easily could go nuclear terrible.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Well, that's exactly the way it sounded to me as
I was looking for you for some guidance on that.
So we both reached the same conclusion, and the article
points out over and over again they're literally going to
have to scramble to fortify their not only the soldiers
on the ground, they have very small armies. They're going
to maybe start talking about conscription and have in some countries,
and they're desperately in need of military hardware and supplies
(07:24):
if they want to wage a war. It seems logistically
they couldn't wage one if they had the will.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
To do it.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
And on top of that, the Gallop survey from the
European Union says that only thirty percent of the people
will be even willing to take up arms to defend
their own countries. That is a sorry state of affairs.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Well, it is, yeah, And you know the reason why
Germany's having this big problem here there.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Maritch is talking about all this big coffee.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Cocky stuff about wanting to be the power, the main
military power on the continent, stuff using big, you know,
illustrative language. A lot of people in the europe are going, yeah,
you go ahead and do that.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
But the problem is that he can't make good on
it because they're having a problem economically to be able
to create that, and then nobody.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Wants to sign up for this.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
So, as you just pointed out, they're gonna have to
have force conscription or they're just not gonna get there
because the people don't see a need for this. They
see the same thing you do. They think, what in
the world are you talking about.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I don't want to war with Russia. They don't want
to war with us. No, this is stupid. Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
And I think that ultimately that's gonna be And I
hope this comes to the political downfall of all these
governments in Europe that want war and they're putting for this.
Eventually the people are gonna say, you're stupid, man, I
don't want you govern uhing. So they're going to fall
out of the next election. We just have to hope
that happens before they actually get people sucked into a war.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Well, you know, and you mentioned it, I mean the
undercurrent of you know, by getting more soldiers, howe are
they're going to accomplish satur of buying more war materials,
spending more than a percentage of their economy that translates
into cuts, cuts, and they're already over extended, bloated, impossible
to sustain social welfare, safety in that So if European people,
europe Union people are subjected to a choice either we
(09:03):
build our military up and you cut social welfare, or
will continue with these outrageous rates, which parenthetically are unsustainable anyway,
and not build up our military, they probably go.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
With the ladder now.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
And that's I think why the Air Vice Marshall today
in the UK was trying to say, listen, you have
to be ready to sacrifice your sons and daughters because
otherwise they're coming for us, because you have to create
this fear that, oh my god, well maybe we do
have to make these sacrifices.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
The I not remember, but a couple.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Of days ago UK was also one of the UK
leaders was saying, look, we have to be ready to
make a lot of sacrifices, you know, in our economy,
in our way of life, and maybe even our lives,
because that's how big the risk is and it's real,
et cetera. So it's scaring some people, but I think
most people are going, I'm looking at I just don't
see it.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I think there's something wrong with you. And I hope
that that holds sway.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Well, maybe that answers the question that we're struggling with
is why in the hell are they are they worried
about Vladimir Cooton and raiding Europe. If you use this
argument that we are under this existential threat from Russia,
we are going to have to cut maybe that's the
only Maybe that's the point. It will provide a mechanism
to justify their cuts to this bloated, out of control
(10:16):
social welfare system that so many people are on that
can't be sustained, right, I mean, it will.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
But you know, one of the other things it's irony
I think is falling is being consciously aware of a
lot of these European populations.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Is they're going, hang on, hang on.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
You just mocked Manuel Macron in particular, you just mocked
the Russians because they're so pathetic that they've only taken
one percent of the territory in the last two full
years of fighting. And then at the same time you're
telling me, oh my god, they're coming to London and
we have.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
To be ready for that.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
That doesn't make any sense at all, And yet those
contradictory messages are both being shouted by the European leaders.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well, at least you and I see through it. Daniel
Davis'll tavi.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
This the day A lot of people do.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, I know the Daniel Davis Deep Dive. Find him
on wherever you get your podcasting and follow him throughout
the week, and always tune in here on the fifty
five KRSCEN Morning Shore every Tuesdays at eight thirty. I
enjoy it, man, look forward to it every week, sir,
and I'll look forward to you next week.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Always my pleasure to see you next week, Brian.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Take care of my friends. Eight thirty nine. Come up
to eight forty or fifty five KRC detalk station. This
is fifty five KARC and iHeartRadio.
Seventy four due to an accident. Chuck Ingram fifty five
KRSS the Talk Station.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey, twenty eight Here fifty five KRC the Talk Station.
It is Tuesday. Staying in the obvious regular listeners know
it is that time of week. We get to talk
to retire lieun Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis and doing what
he calls in his podcast, what I call the alliterative podcast.
It is the Daniel Davis Deep Dive. Welcome back, my
dear friend. It's always a pleasure to having you on
the fifty five KRS Morning Show.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I look forward to this more than my own shows.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I think, y you're so kind, Daniel. I enjoy the
back and forth. Although we haven't been able to solve
the problems in the world over the year or two
that we've been doing this, it is a thoroughly welcome
exchange of well real time and genuine information about what's
going on in the world. I see Donald Trump, and
I want to start with Ukraine and the efforts to
negotiate a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia. This, obviously,
(00:49):
you've been talking about for a very long time, the
United States providing a security guarantee for Ukraine, i'llah Article
five of an ATO Defense Alliance treaty. This requires NATO
country and much in the if they were a member
of NATO, it would go along with the security guarantee.
If one country gets attacked, we all come to the defense.
(01:11):
This is not Ukraine joining NATO but getting the benefits
of the Article five security agreement, which means, effectively, aren't
they getting the best benefit of being a NATO country
without formally calling them that.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Well, listen, Brian, I'm gonna put this in the category
of I'll believe it when I see it, right, because
I mean, we're not gonna President Trump has been emphatic
from the beginning of saying that NATO is a no go,
that NATO was one of the strong causes of this
war in the first place because of the threat that
Russia felt. He said he understood that. So the last
(01:43):
thing I think that he's going to do is to
give any kind of a security guarantee that's quasi NATO,
whether you call it NATO or not. But if it
has anything like an actual teethy Article five, I just
can't see. I mean, I literally see no chance. So
I hear I've seen those statements in report rest reports,
but nobody has provided the details yet of what that
(02:04):
actually means, what it looks like. And I imagine when
you do, you'll see a whole lot of water being
poured on some of these guarantees, because I don't think
they're gonna be worth the paper they're written on if
they ever even see the light of day.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Okay, fair enough, And we'll wait to see what happens
with that, because that's the concern I have. That's effectively
that's our that's our foray into World War three right there,
much in the same way if they were remembers now.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
And plus Russia would never agree to it.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
If you're looking for something that people are going to
agree to, they would never agree to that.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So it's it's dead on.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
A rival, all right. Fair enough? Now. The other thing
I wanted to pivot over to along the same lines,
this artic Wall Street Journal article from yesterday, After a
generation of Peace of Europe tells it's people to prepare
for war. They are ramping up their concerns, all the
elected officials, folks of the European Union about well, the
Russians are coming over the hill. They're getting ready to
(02:55):
invade US and Frederick Mertz to Germany the chancellor. If
Ukraine falls, he won't job putting, just like the student
plan wasn't enough. In nineteen thirty eight, referring to Adolf
Hitler's invasion of portion of Czechoslovakia, NATO Secretary General Mark
Ruddy said, conflict is at our door. We must be
prepared for the scale of war our grandparents and great
(03:17):
grandparents endured. I mean, they're talking World War three level
conflict here now. During our prior conversations, Daniel, you've kind
of suggested, and I've been tending to agree with you,
that Russia is not going to invade Poland, which was
one of the countries they said was gonna be the
next Domino to follow or to fall. It's taken him
so long to accomplish what they've gotten in Ukraine so far.
(03:40):
If they do attack a NATO country, they have all
of the NATO countries under the Article five Security Agreement
coming up to defend whichever country is attacked first. It
doesn't sound like a recipe for success with Russia.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
That's why we've got you, Daniel Davis.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, and listen to all those things you just mentioned.
Add this morning you had the new head of mi
I six say that Russia is the pacing threat and
the biggest concern that they have on an intelligence basis,
and then Air Vice Marshall for the UK said that listen,
we have to be ready to sack it.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
And I'm not making this up.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Sacrifice our sons and daughters if necessary in order to
keep us safe from Russia.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
We're that kind of an issue.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
So it's gaining momentum, all these threats and warnings, et cetera,
that they're openly telling their people in the UK they
have to be ready to sacrifice their sons and daughters
for this war that should never be fought. So the
issue is quite alarming and it's something that needs to
get cushed quickly. But look Russia has said, and just
in the past, I guess seven or eight days Putin
(04:45):
has said again mocked, he goes this idea, I don't
Why would I even want to go into any of
your countries?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
We don't.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
And then he said, but if you come to us
and you fight us.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
We will fight.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
We are ready today and we will fight that war
we don't want, but guaranteed that we will and when
you look at their capability, and I'm talking to you.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Not just how many tank planes and the troops that
people have.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Those are important, but what is crucial, absolutely vital in
a war of potential war of attrition, is to your
defense industrial base and how many men you have. And
Russia dwarfs the entirety of NATO in those categories, and
of course they have all the combat experience and we
have almost none, just little inciliary by watching Ukraine, but
(05:29):
that's about it, but none of us actually doing it.
So we are not ready to fight a war, and
if people want to get one and start one, we're
not going to do well in this. Let me just
tell you right off the bat.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well, then, what is the purposes of all this what
I will call dangerous rhetoric from the European Union elected officials?
Why are they ramping up all this talk?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
It is insane, I'll just start right there. It is
insane because there is no reason whatsoever to have to
even think about fighting a.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
War with Russia. There's no reason why they would want to.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
There was a lot of reason why they would want
to go into the Donbas area, why they would want
to go into part of Ukraine. They've been signaling that
for fifteen years. Prior to this one. They had always
signaled the opposite here, So there's no reason that's important,
first of all. But secondly, what I think is going
back to February twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I'm sorry to April.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Twenty twenty two, when we had a chance to have
a negotiated settlement and the UK and the Biden administration
both worked against it and sabotaged. Zelinski was this close
to agreeing to it. They convinced him to sabotage it,
and then they said, no, let's defeat them. So twenty
twenty three they want to have this big offensive to
drive Russia out. It totally failed, and ever since that time, Brian,
(06:45):
they'd been trying to make up good for it and
not be seen as being weak that we are, and
so they keep doubling down on the failure. And now
then this particular failure would be the worst of all
because you could literally spawn a war between us.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Which all too easily could go nuclear terrible.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Well, that's exactly the way it sounded to me as
I was looking for you for some guidance on that.
So we both reached the same conclusion, and the article
points out over and over again they're literally going to
have to scramble to fortify their not only the soldiers
on the ground, they have very small armies. They're going
to maybe start talking about conscription and have in some countries,
and they're desperately in need of military hardware and supplies
(07:24):
if they want to wage a war. It seems logistically
they couldn't wage one if they had the will.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
To do it.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
And on top of that, the Gallop survey from the
European Union says that only thirty percent of the people
will be even willing to take up arms to defend
their own countries. That is a sorry state of affairs.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Well, it is, yeah, And you know the reason why
Germany's having this big problem here there.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Maritch is talking about all this big coffee.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Cocky stuff about wanting to be the power, the main
military power on the continent, stuff using big, you know,
illustrative language. A lot of people in the europe are going, yeah,
you go ahead and do that.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
But the problem is that he can't make good on
it because they're having a problem economically to be able
to create that, and then nobody.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Wants to sign up for this.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
So, as you just pointed out, they're gonna have to
have force conscription or they're just not gonna get there
because the people don't see a need for this. They
see the same thing you do. They think, what in
the world are you talking about.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I don't want to war with Russia. They don't want
to war with us. No, this is stupid. Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
And I think that ultimately that's gonna be And I
hope this comes to the political downfall of all these
governments in Europe that want war and they're putting for this.
Eventually the people are gonna say, you're stupid, man, I
don't want you govern uhing. So they're going to fall
out of the next election. We just have to hope
that happens before they actually get people sucked into a war.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Well, you know, and you mentioned it, I mean the
undercurrent of you know, by getting more soldiers, howe are
they're going to accomplish satur of buying more war materials,
spending more than a percentage of their economy that translates
into cuts, cuts, and they're already over extended, bloated, impossible
to sustain social welfare, safety in that So if European people,
europe Union people are subjected to a choice either we
(09:03):
build our military up and you cut social welfare, or
will continue with these outrageous rates, which parenthetically are unsustainable anyway,
and not build up our military, they probably go.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
With the ladder now.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
And that's I think why the Air Vice Marshall today
in the UK was trying to say, listen, you have
to be ready to sacrifice your sons and daughters because
otherwise they're coming for us, because you have to create
this fear that, oh my god, well maybe we do
have to make these sacrifices.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
The I not remember, but a couple.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Of days ago UK was also one of the UK
leaders was saying, look, we have to be ready to
make a lot of sacrifices, you know, in our economy,
in our way of life, and maybe even our lives,
because that's how big the risk is and it's real,
et cetera. So it's scaring some people, but I think
most people are going, I'm looking at I just don't
see it.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I think there's something wrong with you. And I hope
that that holds sway.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Well, maybe that answers the question that we're struggling with
is why in the hell are they are they worried
about Vladimir Cooton and raiding Europe. If you use this
argument that we are under this existential threat from Russia,
we are going to have to cut maybe that's the
only Maybe that's the point. It will provide a mechanism
to justify their cuts to this bloated, out of control
(10:16):
social welfare system that so many people are on that
can't be sustained, right, I mean, it will.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
But you know, one of the other things it's irony
I think is falling is being consciously aware of a
lot of these European populations.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Is they're going, hang on, hang on.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
You just mocked Manuel Macron in particular, you just mocked
the Russians because they're so pathetic that they've only taken
one percent of the territory in the last two full
years of fighting. And then at the same time you're
telling me, oh my god, they're coming to London and
we have.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
To be ready for that.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
That doesn't make any sense at all, And yet those
contradictory messages are both being shouted by the European leaders.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well, at least you and I see through it. Daniel
Davis'll tavi.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
This the day A lot of people do.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, I know the Daniel Davis Deep Dive. Find him
on wherever you get your podcasting and follow him throughout
the week, and always tune in here on the fifty
five KRSCEN Morning Shore every Tuesdays at eight thirty. I
enjoy it, man, look forward to it every week, sir,
and I'll look forward to you next week.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Always my pleasure to see you next week, Brian.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Take care of my friends. Eight thirty nine. Come up
to eight forty or fifty five KRC detalk station. This
is fifty five KARC and iHeartRadio.
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