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Speaker 1 (01:06):
Hey twenty eight, fifty five KRCD talk station. Stayed in
the obvious. It's Tuesday, and for regular listeners, stayed in
the obvious. It's the time of week when we get
the deep dive Daniel Davis Deep Dive find them online
where you actually might run into me. I was on
his program last week. It was a real honor to
do so, Welcome back, retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis. Got
a lot of haters out there, man, Well.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well we do. But you know the people, what do
they call it? Hate watching? Sometimes they just love to
do that. But it was great to have you on
the show.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Well, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Man. We talked about four or five different subject matters.
But boy, I guess I really stepped in it when I
had comments about Israel and no expert on you know, Israel,
It's history or anything else. I'm just aware of what's
in the news of late. But apparently that was what
hit a nerve. But I guess I'm used to that.
You always hit a nerve with someone when you're talking
about the deteriorating situation there between Israel guys and of
(02:00):
course the terrorist organizations.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, and of course I have this when you and
I talk about Israel. I think you've told me You've
had some of the folks not lacking what I've said either.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
So I guess you just can't win on that. You can't.
It is what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
That's the fact it really is. And people have some
very very very deep seated feelings about that. But before
we talk about that, let's get the latest on rushing
Ukraine another day. Know, the same old, same old, it seems,
you know, Donald Trump, it seems like he's pulling the
plug on't even trying anymore. Tries to sit down with
Vladimir Putin, tries to get Putin to negotiate, But as
you and I have observed and talked about regularly, Vladimir
(02:34):
Putin's got his list of demands, he's not wavering from them.
And so you end a discussion with nobody conceding to
anything that he wants. You're not going to get a settlement.
And then the bombs and the drone start flying again.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Well yeah, and you know what, I honestly find the
whole episode puzzling. I mean, let's go back to when
the fifty day deadline was said. I thought that was
kind of odd because I didn't understand what was fifty.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Days tied to you?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Now, why would you say, all right, we've already gone
six months to the Trump administration. Why why another fifty days?
And why would that be any different? And then why
did it go from fifty to now ten or a
dozen something like that? Uh? And but still we had
the same thing lumin out that we did when that
first fifty day deadline was set. What is going to
happen if he tries to impose those secondary sanctions on
(03:20):
Russia and the primary issues not what they do to
Russia because Russia is basically sanctioned proof already. It's the
secondary sanctions that they slapped the terrace on China, India,
Brazil and anyone else. They say, who does business with
Russia with uh pydric garbage, et cetera. I don't know
that you're going to succeed if you're going to try
to get our you know, our friend India to say
(03:42):
don't buy Russian oil or it's gonna you know, get
it from somewhere else where else are you going to
get it? And then, of course we have the issue
with China. We're still in a trade issue with them.
And if you slap another one hundred percent, I mean
that it hurt us last time when we had one
hundred and forty five percent. So I just don't see
how this is going to help our case much less
hurt Russia.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
As we enter into more thoughtful and I guess deep
trade negotiations on tariffs with China and our negotiation process
with them process with them, these secondary tariffs, I think
it's just going to blow that up. I would imagine
China's not going to stand for it in a discussion.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Well, I mean because you're you've spent so many months
and so much you know, political capital, trying to come
up to some kind of a mutually acceptable financial deal
and apparently there are making some progress.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Yeah, but you talk something like this on.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Top, it'll literally blow up everything you've been doing and
set us back, you know, several months, and that's just
not going to be good for American consumers or business.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well, let me ask you get your reaction to this,
because my my first reaction was this is childish. When
we talk about, and we have before, when Ukraine wants
to strike and strikes targets within Russia, you and I
both scratch our head and wonder to what end. It's
not like they're going to make advances and take over
Russian territory. They don't enough troops to keep the territory
if they took it. But when they choose targets to bomb,
(05:05):
last time I checked, it was resort towns, there's not
even a military objective. If you're bombing a beat where
people go to vacation, what possible benefit could that be?
And of course then the Russians retaliate by bombing the
Ukraine resort towns, not military objectives. Either of those are
civilian target So what's the point of this exercise? Again,
(05:25):
it seems like children playing war games.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, and part of the problem for the Ukraine side
is that they don't. They have limited number of offensive
missiles and drones, so they have some that can get in,
but not that many. Russia, on the other hand, has
more than enough air defense missiles. Unlike the Ukraine side
and the Western side, who are in a significant dearth
of those interceptor missiles, Russia has no shortage, but they
(05:51):
have them. They do have a huge country, so they
have to pick and choose where they put them. So
on the militarily important targets, they have a lot of
air defense, so Ukraine doesn't want to missiles where they
don't even get you know, they don't even have video
of burning buildings in Russia.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
So they go places.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Where there aren't air defenses or there are not very many,
and so they can get the video. Because this is
all about just having impressions and media outlets. I mean,
that's just the truth of it. They want the video
footage to show that they're doing something. There is no
military path, so it's not an issue that, well, this
won't help the front line, because nothing will, which of
(06:27):
course exposes the absurdity of continuing to fight a ward
you can't win.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
No question about it. And this week after week after week,
we keep coming up with the same conclusions, Daniel Davis,
and we don't have the I think one of the
things we learned from COVID is we need to start
making our own stuff and not being so reliant on China.
This is a moment of clarity for our US military
because you know, the world is clamoring for our weapons
(06:53):
and asking for patriots and wanting this, and that we
don't even have enough of our own you mentioned many
times on this program. We talked about it last week.
We can only make six hundred patriot missiles a year.
I mean, I'm sorry. The demand is much greater than
the supply, and we have an obligation to our our
own people to protect our people from threats abroad and domestically,
(07:14):
and for that you need a stockpile of weapons, and
apparently we don't have enough.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I mean that's you said, it's a moment of clarity.
I would say it should be a moment of clarity,
but it doesn't seem to be because I mean, what
was it more than a year ago is when we
expanded I gut maybe two years ago we expanded our
capacity because it was five hundred missiles pier at the
outset of the war. Now is up to around six hundred.
But I mean, unless I miss something, I haven't seen
(07:42):
anybody say all right, we have this emergency contract here,
we're gonna triple it or something to that effect.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
You know, we'll go way above what it is. Now
that you see how.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Many interceptions it takes to sustain combat. Clearly we don't
have enough. And by the way, the last credible information
I've forgotten from somebody who had access to the inside
of the Pentagon, it'll take about five years for us
to repay replace our own stock piles. And that that
number doesn't even start five years until we stop giving
everything that comes off the Foundation to somebody else right now,
(08:15):
to you know, to whether it's to Israel or the Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
So we need to do something.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
So you say clarity, but I don't see that that
clarity has turned into policy.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
It's okay, the European Union's gonna buy seven hundred and
fifty billion dollars worth of military hardware from domestic military
hardware manufacturers, thus ensuring the longevity of the military industrial complex.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, and you know, I see that, certainly from an
American perspective, that's a big number. And then investing six
hundred billion dollars in our energy to all this, I mean,
all that is really good, but I mean you still
have that bottleneck there. It matters how much you can
produce and how fast. So a lot of dollars are
being thrown around, but you don't have the capacity to
(08:59):
do anything big. You just have the ability for the
status quo to continue to perpetuate for the military industrial complex.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
But that doesn't do a whole lot for our national security.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
All Right, Daniel Davis, let's walk down that dangerous road
and talk about Israel, Gaza and Iran. Now, obviously, you
and I and I think the whole world can agree
there is a massive humanitarian crisis going on Gaza. There
are people literally starving, and I think one of the
things I stepped in the other day was about this
getting aid into Gaza, getting food to people who obviously
(09:30):
need it. You know, the two sides every story. You
got Israel, and maybe they're blamed. You got the hamas
Terrists maybe preventing the aid from getting it to people.
But as soon as AID shows up, it's like any
group of starving people, it just turns absolutely chaotic. I know,
I saw a massive crowd storming one of the AID trucks.
And the UN obviously seems to me to be always
(09:52):
seems to me to be a pointless exercise, incapable of
really providing any benefit anywhere. But they can't even seem
to resolve the situation. How are we going to how
can we just get food in there? Yeah, that's that's
the that's the central problem right now. The problem with
the UN is they have no power. They can only
have influence and they only try to say something. But
that requires primarily Israel on the ground, because they're the
(10:16):
only ones that actually have power over this situation. And
just in a form of context for people to understand
why we're in this starvation situation. Israel decided they didn't
like the UN program that was feeding people Undra, it's
called UH and so they shut that down and then
they formed this new one, and of course they had
shut it off from from March up until just very recently.
(10:36):
Now then they have four food designation points where they
can have it. That's why you see this chaos here
because the entire gauze strip has to swarm, you know,
torment on four points.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
They had four hundred before that, and so.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
It's a lot easier to distribute food more orderly when
you have multiple places and routine food coming in. But
unfortunately Israel has restricted it to four and the number
of trucks is about one I'm sorry, a fifth. What
is needed for just a basic sustenance airgo You have
people starving to death because there's not enough food getting
(11:10):
into the population. And look, whatever you want to say
about anything policies or who's right or wrong, Israel has the.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Power over the food.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And right now they are not releasing, they're not opening
the gates, and they're not letting the rest of the
trucks get in.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
And we see what the result is on the ground.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
And I have not looked for, nor have I read
an explanation for why it went for that approach. I
presume on some measure Israel wants to manage the distribution
of food to keep it out of the hands of
Hamas and get it to the people who actually are starving.
But that Hamas is quite often commandeering the food supplies.
It's more food supplies, more trucks, more distribution centers. It
(11:47):
seems to me might still be managed by Israel if
they broaden the effort. But there is that threat of
Hamas and that concern about Hamas taking the supplies from
the people they purport to represent.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Well, but the reality is you're not doing any of that.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
You're not preventing even the way they're doing it now,
it's not preventing food and forgetting Hamas. They have no
idea who's Hamas and who's just Palestinian. So by saying
that's what they're trying to do, what they're doing is
starving other people. You're not gonna prevent that. You can't
mean the Hamas is Palestine, I mean they are part
of it. So you can't distinguish where the food goes
because you Israel has no control whatsoever over where that
(12:25):
food goes in those four distribution points. Once it goes
in there, they don't know where it goes, whether it's
four or four hundred. So that's not an attainable objective
because it can't be met. But this is just not
a military solvable question. And look, at some point you're
just gonna have to say, either Israel is going to
literally starve everyone to death or they're going to have
(12:46):
to open the gates. And they're coming under a lot
more pressure. And I personally find that reprehensible that that's
they're using starvation as a tool.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
It's yeah, well, and the idea of using civilian captives
as a tool, I find that inanitari from a humanitarian
inspective and an ethical perspective, pretty awful too. But what's
the downside risk of just allowing opening the gates and
allowing food in. We're not talking about military or anything
like that, just letting the food in and letting it
(13:15):
go where it may.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Listen, Brian, we got to be honest and especially and
I'm not talking secret stuff here. I'm talking absolute open
discussion within his senior Israeli positions and on Israeli media.
They want the Palestinians out. They don't want to open
the gates and let the food in. That would now
then remove the pressure to get them. I think it's
pretty clear from evidence that what they want is to
(13:38):
compel or coerce other regional countries, whether that's in Africa.
There's been some talk there or in other Arab countries
that they want them to see how bad this is
and say, are we'll just alleviate the suffering, let them
come here, Let you know, five hundred thousand come here
or something like that, or go anywhere, because they want
them out. So there are many in Israel who don't
(14:00):
want to solve that problem because they want to keep
the pressure on that could possibly get them out.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
And that's just the uncomfortable truth. So they wanted to
part they wanted to be just big as an empty
parking lot.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
That is what they want. They have a plan right now.
It was out there just last week. There's many discussing
openly the reoccupation of Gaza to Israeli people, meaning they
have to first get the current occupants out.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Complicated world we live in. I always love talking one
with you about it, which we could solve the problems
of the world. But then again, you and I wouldn't
have anything to talk about every Tuesday at eight thirty,
Daniel Davis, I would.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Love it if we didn't have any we could talk
about sports or all seasons coming up.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I'd rather do that and have that problem solved.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I tell you what, I have said that so many
times over the years.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
If all the.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Problems of the world solved, I wouldn't have anything to
talk about. That's fine. I'll find something else to do
for a living. Daniel Davis. Deeve Die find him online.
You'll enjoy the podcast and the conversations he has throughout
the week. And I say, we appreciate you let me
on your show last week. Was a fun conversation, sir.
It was a pleasure. I really enjoyed it. I'll look
forward to next week, next Tuesday, my friend. It's a
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Speaker 3 (15:10):
This is fifty five krc an iHeartRadio station.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I'm excited.
Jane nine says the following about the weather heat divised
to tomorrow at eight pm. Wait for it, we get
a reprieve on Thursday between now and then high ninety
one today with a low one hundred heat index, very hot,
very humid, muggy. Overnight clear sky is seventy three, partly cloudy,
very humid. Tomorrow with ninety two for a high and yeah,
heat index in the low one hundreds. Wednesday night sixty
eight flody, maybe a scattered shower phone in there. Then
(00:24):
finally Thursday, cold front slowly coming in. We're going to
see high have just eighty two, feel good seventy five.
Right now, it's time for traffic chuck from the u se.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Of Traffic center, you see a weight well center offers
surgical and medico OBCD careen expertise called five one three
nine three nine two two sixty three. That's nine three
nine twenty two sixty three. Res are clear off a
two seventy five spound near Mostellar. That traffic clearing out
from seven to forty seven. Just hereing dispatches for a
(00:54):
new wreck on northbound seventy one before you get to
the Ragan Highway. Traffic it's all already back king up
through Kenwood chat ingram on fifty five KRC talk station.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Hey twenty eight, fifty five KRCD talk station. Stayed in
the obvious. It's Tuesday, and for regular listeners, stayed in
the obvious. It's the time of week when we get
the deep dive Daniel Davis Deep Dive find them online
where you actually might run into me. I was on
his program last week. It was a real honor to
do so, Welcome back, retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis. Got
a lot of haters out there, man, Well.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well we do. But you know the people, what do
they call it? Hate watching? Sometimes they just love to
do that. But it was great to have you on
the show.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Well, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Man. We talked about four or five different subject matters.
But boy, I guess I really stepped in it when I
had comments about Israel and no expert on you know, Israel,
It's history or anything else. I'm just aware of what's
in the news of late. But apparently that was what
hit a nerve. But I guess I'm used to that.
You always hit a nerve with someone when you're talking
about the deteriorating situation there between Israel guys and of
(02:00):
course the terrorist organizations.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, and of course I have this when you and
I talk about Israel. I think you've told me You've
had some of the folks not lacking what I've said either.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
So I guess you just can't win on that. You can't.
It is what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
That's the fact it really is. And people have some
very very very deep seated feelings about that. But before
we talk about that, let's get the latest on rushing
Ukraine another day. Know, the same old, same old, it seems,
you know, Donald Trump, it seems like he's pulling the
plug on't even trying anymore. Tries to sit down with
Vladimir Putin, tries to get Putin to negotiate, But as
you and I have observed and talked about regularly, Vladimir
(02:34):
Putin's got his list of demands, he's not wavering from them.
And so you end a discussion with nobody conceding to
anything that he wants. You're not going to get a settlement.
And then the bombs and the drone start flying again.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Well yeah, and you know what, I honestly find the
whole episode puzzling. I mean, let's go back to when
the fifty day deadline was said. I thought that was
kind of odd because I didn't understand what was fifty.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Days tied to you?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Now, why would you say, all right, we've already gone
six months to the Trump administration. Why why another fifty days?
And why would that be any different? And then why
did it go from fifty to now ten or a
dozen something like that? Uh? And but still we had
the same thing lumin out that we did when that
first fifty day deadline was set. What is going to
happen if he tries to impose those secondary sanctions on
(03:20):
Russia and the primary issues not what they do to
Russia because Russia is basically sanctioned proof already. It's the
secondary sanctions that they slapped the terrace on China, India,
Brazil and anyone else. They say, who does business with
Russia with uh pydric garbage, et cetera. I don't know
that you're going to succeed if you're going to try
to get our you know, our friend India to say
(03:42):
don't buy Russian oil or it's gonna you know, get
it from somewhere else where else are you going to
get it? And then, of course we have the issue
with China. We're still in a trade issue with them.
And if you slap another one hundred percent, I mean
that it hurt us last time when we had one
hundred and forty five percent. So I just don't see
how this is going to help our case much less
hurt Russia.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
As we enter into more thoughtful and I guess deep
trade negotiations on tariffs with China and our negotiation process
with them process with them, these secondary tariffs, I think
it's just going to blow that up. I would imagine
China's not going to stand for it in a discussion.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Well, I mean because you're you've spent so many months
and so much you know, political capital, trying to come
up to some kind of a mutually acceptable financial deal
and apparently there are making some progress.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Yeah, but you talk something like this on.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Top, it'll literally blow up everything you've been doing and
set us back, you know, several months, and that's just
not going to be good for American consumers or business.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well, let me ask you get your reaction to this,
because my my first reaction was this is childish. When
we talk about, and we have before, when Ukraine wants
to strike and strikes targets within Russia, you and I
both scratch our head and wonder to what end. It's
not like they're going to make advances and take over
Russian territory. They don't enough troops to keep the territory
if they took it. But when they choose targets to bomb,
(05:05):
last time I checked, it was resort towns, there's not
even a military objective. If you're bombing a beat where
people go to vacation, what possible benefit could that be?
And of course then the Russians retaliate by bombing the
Ukraine resort towns, not military objectives. Either of those are
civilian target So what's the point of this exercise? Again,
(05:25):
it seems like children playing war games.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, and part of the problem for the Ukraine side
is that they don't. They have limited number of offensive
missiles and drones, so they have some that can get in,
but not that many. Russia, on the other hand, has
more than enough air defense missiles. Unlike the Ukraine side
and the Western side, who are in a significant dearth
of those interceptor missiles, Russia has no shortage, but they
(05:51):
have them. They do have a huge country, so they
have to pick and choose where they put them. So
on the militarily important targets, they have a lot of
air defense, so Ukraine doesn't want to missiles where they
don't even get you know, they don't even have video
of burning buildings in Russia.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
So they go places.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Where there aren't air defenses or there are not very many,
and so they can get the video. Because this is
all about just having impressions and media outlets. I mean,
that's just the truth of it. They want the video
footage to show that they're doing something. There is no
military path, so it's not an issue that, well, this
won't help the front line, because nothing will, which of
(06:27):
course exposes the absurdity of continuing to fight a ward
you can't win.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
No question about it. And this week after week after week,
we keep coming up with the same conclusions, Daniel Davis,
and we don't have the I think one of the
things we learned from COVID is we need to start
making our own stuff and not being so reliant on China.
This is a moment of clarity for our US military
because you know, the world is clamoring for our weapons
(06:53):
and asking for patriots and wanting this, and that we
don't even have enough of our own you mentioned many
times on this program. We talked about it last week.
We can only make six hundred patriot missiles a year.
I mean, I'm sorry. The demand is much greater than
the supply, and we have an obligation to our our
own people to protect our people from threats abroad and domestically,
(07:14):
and for that you need a stockpile of weapons, and
apparently we don't have enough.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I mean that's you said, it's a moment of clarity.
I would say it should be a moment of clarity,
but it doesn't seem to be because I mean, what
was it more than a year ago is when we
expanded I gut maybe two years ago we expanded our
capacity because it was five hundred missiles pier at the
outset of the war. Now is up to around six hundred.
But I mean, unless I miss something, I haven't seen
(07:42):
anybody say all right, we have this emergency contract here,
we're gonna triple it or something to that effect.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
You know, we'll go way above what it is. Now
that you see how.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Many interceptions it takes to sustain combat. Clearly we don't
have enough. And by the way, the last credible information
I've forgotten from somebody who had access to the inside
of the Pentagon, it'll take about five years for us
to repay replace our own stock piles. And that that
number doesn't even start five years until we stop giving
everything that comes off the Foundation to somebody else right now,
(08:15):
to you know, to whether it's to Israel or the Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
So we need to do something.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
So you say clarity, but I don't see that that
clarity has turned into policy.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
It's okay, the European Union's gonna buy seven hundred and
fifty billion dollars worth of military hardware from domestic military
hardware manufacturers, thus ensuring the longevity of the military industrial complex.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, and you know, I see that, certainly from an
American perspective, that's a big number. And then investing six
hundred billion dollars in our energy to all this, I mean,
all that is really good, but I mean you still
have that bottleneck there. It matters how much you can
produce and how fast. So a lot of dollars are
being thrown around, but you don't have the capacity to
(08:59):
do anything big. You just have the ability for the
status quo to continue to perpetuate for the military industrial complex.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
But that doesn't do a whole lot for our national security.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
All Right, Daniel Davis, let's walk down that dangerous road
and talk about Israel, Gaza and Iran. Now, obviously, you
and I and I think the whole world can agree
there is a massive humanitarian crisis going on Gaza. There
are people literally starving, and I think one of the
things I stepped in the other day was about this
getting aid into Gaza, getting food to people who obviously
(09:30):
need it. You know, the two sides every story. You
got Israel, and maybe they're blamed. You got the hamas
Terrists maybe preventing the aid from getting it to people.
But as soon as AID shows up, it's like any
group of starving people, it just turns absolutely chaotic. I know,
I saw a massive crowd storming one of the AID trucks.
And the UN obviously seems to me to be always
(09:52):
seems to me to be a pointless exercise, incapable of
really providing any benefit anywhere. But they can't even seem
to resolve the situation. How are we going to how
can we just get food in there? Yeah, that's that's
the that's the central problem right now. The problem with
the UN is they have no power. They can only
have influence and they only try to say something. But
that requires primarily Israel on the ground, because they're the
(10:16):
only ones that actually have power over this situation. And
just in a form of context for people to understand
why we're in this starvation situation. Israel decided they didn't
like the UN program that was feeding people Undra, it's
called UH and so they shut that down and then
they formed this new one, and of course they had
shut it off from from March up until just very recently.
(10:36):
Now then they have four food designation points where they
can have it. That's why you see this chaos here
because the entire gauze strip has to swarm, you know,
torment on four points.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
They had four hundred before that, and so.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
It's a lot easier to distribute food more orderly when
you have multiple places and routine food coming in. But
unfortunately Israel has restricted it to four and the number
of trucks is about one I'm sorry, a fifth. What
is needed for just a basic sustenance airgo You have
people starving to death because there's not enough food getting
(11:10):
into the population. And look, whatever you want to say
about anything policies or who's right or wrong, Israel has the.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Power over the food.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And right now they are not releasing, they're not opening
the gates, and they're not letting the rest of the
trucks get in.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
And we see what the result is on the ground.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
And I have not looked for, nor have I read
an explanation for why it went for that approach. I
presume on some measure Israel wants to manage the distribution
of food to keep it out of the hands of
Hamas and get it to the people who actually are starving.
But that Hamas is quite often commandeering the food supplies.
It's more food supplies, more trucks, more distribution centers. It
(11:47):
seems to me might still be managed by Israel if
they broaden the effort. But there is that threat of
Hamas and that concern about Hamas taking the supplies from
the people they purport to represent.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Well, but the reality is you're not doing any of that.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
You're not preventing even the way they're doing it now,
it's not preventing food and forgetting Hamas. They have no
idea who's Hamas and who's just Palestinian. So by saying
that's what they're trying to do, what they're doing is
starving other people. You're not gonna prevent that. You can't
mean the Hamas is Palestine, I mean they are part
of it. So you can't distinguish where the food goes
because you Israel has no control whatsoever over where that
(12:25):
food goes in those four distribution points. Once it goes
in there, they don't know where it goes, whether it's
four or four hundred. So that's not an attainable objective
because it can't be met. But this is just not
a military solvable question. And look, at some point you're
just gonna have to say, either Israel is going to
literally starve everyone to death or they're going to have
(12:46):
to open the gates. And they're coming under a lot
more pressure. And I personally find that reprehensible that that's
they're using starvation as a tool.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
It's yeah, well, and the idea of using civilian captives
as a tool, I find that inanitari from a humanitarian
inspective and an ethical perspective, pretty awful too. But what's
the downside risk of just allowing opening the gates and
allowing food in. We're not talking about military or anything
like that, just letting the food in and letting it
(13:15):
go where it may.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Listen, Brian, we got to be honest and especially and
I'm not talking secret stuff here. I'm talking absolute open
discussion within his senior Israeli positions and on Israeli media.
They want the Palestinians out. They don't want to open
the gates and let the food in. That would now
then remove the pressure to get them. I think it's
pretty clear from evidence that what they want is to
(13:38):
compel or coerce other regional countries, whether that's in Africa.
There's been some talk there or in other Arab countries
that they want them to see how bad this is
and say, are we'll just alleviate the suffering, let them
come here, Let you know, five hundred thousand come here
or something like that, or go anywhere, because they want
them out. So there are many in Israel who don't
(14:00):
want to solve that problem because they want to keep
the pressure on that could possibly get them out.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
And that's just the uncomfortable truth. So they wanted to
part they wanted to be just big as an empty
parking lot.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
That is what they want. They have a plan right now.
It was out there just last week. There's many discussing
openly the reoccupation of Gaza to Israeli people, meaning they
have to first get the current occupants out.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Complicated world we live in. I always love talking one
with you about it, which we could solve the problems
of the world. But then again, you and I wouldn't
have anything to talk about every Tuesday at eight thirty,
Daniel Davis, I would.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Love it if we didn't have any we could talk
about sports or all seasons coming up.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I'd rather do that and have that problem solved.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I tell you what, I have said that so many
times over the years.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
If all the.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Problems of the world solved, I wouldn't have anything to
talk about. That's fine. I'll find something else to do
for a living. Daniel Davis. Deeve Die find him online.
You'll enjoy the podcast and the conversations he has throughout
the week. And I say, we appreciate you let me
on your show last week. Was a fun conversation, sir.
It was a pleasure. I really enjoyed it. I'll look
forward to next week, next Tuesday, my friend. It's a
forty two right now, fifty five krc he Talks Station.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
This is fifty five krc an iHeartRadio station.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I'm excited.
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