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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Station Tuesday, It's time for the Daniel Davis Deep Dive
this week chapter two. We had a special edition with
him yesterday given the situation of Venezuela, and of course
we weren't able to unpackage all that. Daniel Davis, retired
Lieutenant colonel, has his own podcast. You can find them
wherever you get your podcasts, and I recommend you do that.
Daniel Davis Deep Dive, Welcome back, my friend. Always a
pleasure talking with you.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I joy to be here. Thanks for giving me back
a second day in a week. It's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Well, we could talk every single day and still not
be able to unpackage all this nine sense. I mean,
let's face it, and we might get to it. There
is still a war between Russia and Ukraine going on
out there, but it's been overshadowed, of course, by the
military action in Venezuela. And again I got to salute
the American military. Come down wherever you want on the
exercise it's validity or anything, damn it. Our soldiers did
(00:46):
a hell of a good job, a well oiled machine
operation that was, and not a single loss of American
life except a lot of Cubans apparently went down in
that one thirty two has been the reported number. And
real quick on just on that point, Daniel Davis, Why
was Maduro being surrounded by Cuban protectors and armed personnel
(01:07):
when he's got his own army, navy, and air force,
apparently all commanded by Interior Minister Diesato Cabello and Defense
Minister Vladimir Padrino, who are still issues in this whole
equation as we move forward. Didn't he have his own people?
What's with the Cubans?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, he did. I think that part of the reason
for that is to kind of rotate people around as
an additional means of security, so that you tried to
avoid what apparently did happen, which is somebody on the
inside turning against you, and so you had somebody that
you think is definitely loyal from the outside because Cuba
literally relies for their economic life on Cuban oil or
(01:48):
on Venezuelan oil, and I think the idea was, I'm
gonna have somebody from the outside who can we can
keep a closer eye on. They don't have connections with anybody,
They're not going to conspire with anybody on the ground,
and that going to keep me safe, and you know
that's certainly not the way it turned out. I mean,
they didn't go they didn't go down passively. They did
die fighting, but uh, yeah, it turned out to be.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Not enough, not quiet enough. Now as we move forward
here that it's a big open question about what's gonna
happen next. Now I mentioned the two military guys, the
Cabello and Padrino, who are really I guess, diehard Chavista types,
the military types. And but you also have the current
acting president and Vice President, Delasia Rodriguez. She seems to
(02:36):
be kind of playing it, not neutral, sitting on the fence,
but she hasn't embraced the idea of working with Donald
Trump going forward. But she hasn't outright rejected it and
say no, no, we're going to fight to the finish.
They're still trying to figure out the hand that they've
been dealt and what they're going to do going forward.
Because I know that Cabello and Padrino both have criminal
(02:56):
indictments against them as well, So it's conceivable anyway that
another military operation could go in and cut off the
heads of the what what what is of the military there.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, that that's the implication that's the threat actually that hey,
we can come back at any time, but I'll just
tell you we can't. Uh that that card has been played.
There's no you'll you'll never have another opportunity to go
in like this with the surprise uh and have that success,
because now then they're aware of how this would work,
what the what the process is, where the dangers are,
(03:28):
and now then they'll be ready. Even even though they
were caught with their pants down here. Uh, it won't
happen twice. And if anybody thinks that we can just
go in with another clean snatch and grab, uh, it's
just not how it works in the real world. Uh.
The other thing that's that for for Rodriguez especially is
like I said, that there's pretty strong evidence that there
was some sort of inside uh double agent top cooperation,
(03:50):
which is one of the reasons why we were able
to get in so easily to the inner sanctum of
Maduro himself. And whether that person has been identified, whether
that's somebody who left with the with the with the helicopters,
or whether they're still on the ground somewhere, there's got
to be a fear inside of the power hierarchy. Who
else is a double agent, so they got to be
real careful right now. They're trying to figure out who
(04:11):
they can or can't trust, and it wouldn't surprise me
if there was a purge going on anyone's who's even suspected.
So they got to get their house clean inside first
before they can feel confident. But she is in a
tough position, Rodriguez, because she can't just start bowing to
Trump because all of a sudden she's going to fund
resistance within her own country because they're going to say,
you know, don't just hand the keys over. But she
(04:32):
obviously can't go too far with Trump because whether there's
another snatching grab or just missiles or something. She realizes
that she is indeed to risk, so she's trying to
trying to find that happy medium.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Now is that risk the consequence of the corrupt I
would say the people benefiting from the Maduro regimer who
had been benefiting from it die hard. Potentially Chavistas that
are still there, because I get the impression, and I
just literally talk with a guy who works for Breitbart
who lived in a scape from Venezuela, Caleb Cruz, a
(05:01):
real nice guy. The will of the people although they
can't go out in the streets and rejoice for fear
that they're going to be rounded up and disappeared, which
is typical there. But they're pretty darn happy that Manduro
isn't there anymore. Their lives are terrible in Venezuela. So
if the people generally support a transition to a preach
of easta better economy where they're making money and they
(05:22):
have opportunity, isn't she on safer ground going that direction?
Or is this what I would characterize and correct me
if I'm wrong, sir. Smaller minority of loyalists or well
connected people that big of a threat to her that
she wouldn't bother doing that, even if it's the will
of the people.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well, you know, I talked to a friend of mine
here in Washington that has family still in Caracas, and
he was telling me that his reports from the ground
there are similar to what your friend said. That everybody's
still kind of uncertain and afraid. They don't know what
to think, and they don't even know what to believe.
In any case, they do know that the all of
(06:01):
the power structures of the Maduro regime are in place.
The only thing that we got taken out was the head.
But the head is only the head of a system,
and all the system is still fully in place, So
they don't have freedom suddenly that they didn't have before
Maduro was pulled out. And I think they're aware of that, uh,
but they also know, you know, what are you gonna do?
You're gonna have a you know, some kind of an uprising. Well,
(06:23):
the same reason they didn't have an uprising under Maduro
is still the same thing in place here. So there's
no freedom in Venezuela. There's nothing has been changed on
the system level. So right now everybody's waiting to find
out what's going to happen. And listen, we also have
to recognize that all of the hardships on Venezuela is
not just because of this management, though that's a big
(06:44):
part of it, or their corruption, but because of these
crippling sanctions we've had on them for a long time.
So it's that it's some of the people in Venezuela
are not real happy about even what we've been doing
because they recognize that some of this is being imposed
on them from the outside, and still they don't really
Truy's just that they're going to like rise up and
think that we're gonna come and support them because it
could cost them their lives.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That I get. But since the system, as you describe
it is still in place. The head may have been
cut off, but the system is still there. We just
briefly touched on the global realities. We got Iran, China, Russia,
and then of course Cuba, which seems like it's on
his last legs, all inextrictedly entertrined on some level with
Venezuela just because Maduro's gone. Their foot in the door
(07:27):
and the relationship with that with Venezuela generally that hasn't
disappeared at least as far as China, Russia, and I
understand Iran had drone manufacturing facilities in Venezuela as well.
Those relationships remain. Are they on you know, thin ice?
Where are we with them?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
That's what everybody's trying to find out. I'm talking about Beijing, Moscow,
we got Caracas. Everybody's trying to figure out what does
all this going to mean? And no one knows yet
because Venezuela doesn't know. Because the United States we kind
of opened up this can of worms. We don't even know,
we don't know for sure what we're gonna do, what
we're gonna have next, because I think that there are
people in Washington that are fully aware that this snatch
(08:05):
and grab was this huge military operation but had one
solitary objective which they went in, they got out and
came out relatively unscathed. But anything further than that and
you can get yourself into a real problem, you know,
So we don't want to go in real big I
think we want to pretend like we can and threaten
that we will. But I don't think there's a big
(08:25):
appetite for getting into a war that we might just
start an open ended situation that you can't succeed in.
They could be real ugly. And then you know, look,
China has I think it's like eighty billion dollars of
loans and other kinds of security things that they have
given to Venezuela that they need to be repaid. So
they're going to be working hard to make sure their
(08:46):
interest are not sacrificed. Russia has less leverage, but they
certainly are the same interest. And then you haven't even
talked about what about Columbia? Are they next? You know,
what about Mexico. There's threatens there Greenland for crying out loud.
I mean, that'sarently on the hit list too, apparently coming
up within twenty days. We don't know for sure what
Trump meant by that, but that's apparently going to be
on the table too. So there is a lot of
(09:08):
moving pieces here at the same time.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, I'm completely perplexed by the whole Greenland obsession. Honestly, sir,
maybe the greatest piece of real estate in the world,
but what right does the United States have to it?
I keep waiting for that question to be answered. Anyhow,
there aren't any drug boats coming out of Greenland as
far as you know. Are there are there, Daniel, if
I haven't missed anything.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Fishing boats up there, And one wonders if fishing boats
are going to suddenly be a problem. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well, it doesn't appear as that we're going to have
to engage in another failed military exercise like the Bay
of Pigs. Cuba looks like it's on its last legs.
I mean, economically, they were already devastated with the oil
embargos and the sanctions. I know they were getting some
Gratus oil from Venezuela which a lot of which they
were able to sell off in order to help their
(09:54):
own economy or help themselves and line their pockets the
authorities in Cuba. But where do you see Cuba going
if we completely cut off their ability to get any
energy whatsoever?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
You know, I'll tell you this is what perplexes me
even more than the Greenland issues. Real why this avut
right obsession with destroying Cuba. I've been to Cuba and
I can tell you just about seven eight years ago
with a church group that went in there to help
some of the local churches. And they are so poor
they can barely even feed themselves. They're a threat to
(10:27):
literally no one. They can They're lucky to keep the
lights on and some food in grocery stores. So you had,
let's see coach the other day, a former director of
Nashville or a deputy national security advisor say that they
are a big threat to us and now we got
to go get them. And I'm just like puzzled, what
(10:47):
are you talking about? There is no threat, and yet
you heard Marco Rubio is just almost gleeful with the
idea of destroying Cuba. There there's nothing that we need
to worry about why we want to harm them because
they don't pose a threat to us. I don't understand
the obsession.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, I get I think a lot of people remember
the Cuban missile crisis. Russia actually had military installations ere
they did have nukees ninety miles away. But you know,
in a world of hypersonic missiles that can travel halfway
around the globe a matter of seconds, the geography of
the location of missiles isn't quite as important as it
used to be.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And plus that was, you know whatever, almost three quarters
of a century ago.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I mean, I know, I know that just anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
So there's literally nothing there that would cause us as
a state objective the destruction of Cuba. And to me,
it just doesn't look good globally that we have this
big power to the United States that is claiming they're
afraid of this tiny little island that can barely keep
the lights on and we're going to crush them. I mean,
that looks like the classic bully and I don't think
(11:49):
that's going to help our interests worldwide if we carry
through with that.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Maybe it's our interest in bringing the casinos back in
a vacation destination. You could be right.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I hope that you're not, because that would be pretty uh,
pretty callous to destroy a government just so that we
can get somebody to go in there and make some
money on it. But justin you can't eliminate that.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Justin effort at levity, sir, that's all that was now really.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
It might not be levity. That's the probably.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, all good comedy. There is some grain of truth
built into it, and real quick, anything that's really pronounced
me in since were almost at a time between the
Russian and Ukraine situation, where are we on that one?
Are we still the status quo that we typically end
off this?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Uh? Tomorrow is Orthodox Christmas on the seventh of January,
so things are kind of paused a little bit on
the on the front. There's still some activity going on,
uh but but it's kind of low level. But there's
a meeting in Paris today where Witkoff and Jared Kushner
and the UN Ambassador with Whittaker are there. I'm sorry,
(12:55):
you know, Witcock Whittaker are there to try and work
on with Zelensky who just showed up a minute ago
with Macron. They're trying to find nail down security guarantees
for Ukraine. Whitaker said on Fox News this morning that
he thinks they're really close. I heard that before. I
doubt that that's going to be the case, or at
least close to what is the question, But at least
(13:16):
some diplomatic activities are going on. I would look for
kind of a lull in things until sometime after the seventh,
and then things could heat back up pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I hear security guarantees, I think of boots on the
ground from major several different major countries, including the United States,
is that maybe where we're going on that.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
That's what they want. I don't think they're going to
get the American boots on the ground, but apparently Zelenski's
really trying hard to get French and British boots on
the ground, and for some reason they're interested in talking
about that. I don't know why they would want to
do it. Russia has categorically and consistently said any boots
that come on the ground from any NATO force immediately
become legitimate targets, and I think they mean.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
It, okay, fair enough. I don't want to make fun
of the French army. It's too easy. Daniel Davis Deep
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always enjoy our conversation, sir, and we'll look forward another
edition to this next Tuesday. You have a great week,
my friend, and happy New Year again.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Same to you and thanks and I'll see you next week.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
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Station Tuesday, It's time for the Daniel Davis Deep Dive
this week chapter two. We had a special edition with
him yesterday given the situation of Venezuela, and of course
we weren't able to unpackage all that. Daniel Davis, retired
Lieutenant colonel, has his own podcast. You can find them
wherever you get your podcasts, and I recommend you do that.
Daniel Davis Deep Dive, Welcome back, my friend. Always a
pleasure talking with you.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I joy to be here. Thanks for giving me back
a second day in a week. It's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Well, we could talk every single day and still not
be able to unpackage all this nine sense. I mean,
let's face it, and we might get to it. There
is still a war between Russia and Ukraine going on
out there, but it's been overshadowed, of course, by the
military action in Venezuela. And again I got to salute
the American military. Come down wherever you want on the
exercise it's validity or anything, damn it. Our soldiers did
(00:46):
a hell of a good job, a well oiled machine
operation that was, and not a single loss of American
life except a lot of Cubans apparently went down in
that one thirty two has been the reported number. And
real quick on just on that point, Daniel Davis, Why
was Maduro being surrounded by Cuban protectors and armed personnel
(01:07):
when he's got his own army, navy, and air force,
apparently all commanded by Interior Minister Diesato Cabello and Defense
Minister Vladimir Padrino, who are still issues in this whole
equation as we move forward. Didn't he have his own people?
What's with the Cubans?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, he did. I think that part of the reason
for that is to kind of rotate people around as
an additional means of security, so that you tried to
avoid what apparently did happen, which is somebody on the
inside turning against you, and so you had somebody that
you think is definitely loyal from the outside because Cuba
literally relies for their economic life on Cuban oil or
(01:48):
on Venezuelan oil, and I think the idea was, I'm
gonna have somebody from the outside who can we can
keep a closer eye on. They don't have connections with anybody,
They're not going to conspire with anybody on the ground,
and that going to keep me safe, and you know
that's certainly not the way it turned out. I mean,
they didn't go they didn't go down passively. They did
die fighting, but uh, yeah, it turned out to be.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Not enough, not quiet enough. Now as we move forward
here that it's a big open question about what's gonna
happen next. Now I mentioned the two military guys, the
Cabello and Padrino, who are really I guess, diehard Chavista types,
the military types. And but you also have the current
acting president and Vice President, Delasia Rodriguez. She seems to
(02:36):
be kind of playing it, not neutral, sitting on the fence,
but she hasn't embraced the idea of working with Donald
Trump going forward. But she hasn't outright rejected it and
say no, no, we're going to fight to the finish.
They're still trying to figure out the hand that they've
been dealt and what they're going to do going forward.
Because I know that Cabello and Padrino both have criminal
(02:56):
indictments against them as well, So it's conceivable anyway that
another military operation could go in and cut off the
heads of the what what what is of the military there.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, that that's the implication that's the threat actually that hey,
we can come back at any time, but I'll just
tell you we can't. Uh that that card has been played.
There's no you'll you'll never have another opportunity to go
in like this with the surprise uh and have that success,
because now then they're aware of how this would work,
what the what the process is, where the dangers are,
(03:28):
and now then they'll be ready. Even even though they
were caught with their pants down here. Uh, it won't
happen twice. And if anybody thinks that we can just
go in with another clean snatch and grab, uh, it's
just not how it works in the real world. Uh.
The other thing that's that for for Rodriguez especially is
like I said, that there's pretty strong evidence that there
was some sort of inside uh double agent top cooperation,
(03:50):
which is one of the reasons why we were able
to get in so easily to the inner sanctum of
Maduro himself. And whether that person has been identified, whether
that's somebody who left with the with the with the helicopters,
or whether they're still on the ground somewhere, there's got
to be a fear inside of the power hierarchy. Who
else is a double agent, so they got to be
real careful right now. They're trying to figure out who
(04:11):
they can or can't trust, and it wouldn't surprise me
if there was a purge going on anyone's who's even suspected.
So they got to get their house clean inside first
before they can feel confident. But she is in a
tough position, Rodriguez, because she can't just start bowing to
Trump because all of a sudden she's going to fund
resistance within her own country because they're going to say,
you know, don't just hand the keys over. But she
(04:32):
obviously can't go too far with Trump because whether there's
another snatching grab or just missiles or something. She realizes
that she is indeed to risk, so she's trying to
trying to find that happy medium.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Now is that risk the consequence of the corrupt I
would say the people benefiting from the Maduro regimer who
had been benefiting from it die hard. Potentially Chavistas that
are still there, because I get the impression, and I
just literally talk with a guy who works for Breitbart
who lived in a scape from Venezuela, Caleb Cruz, a
(05:01):
real nice guy. The will of the people although they
can't go out in the streets and rejoice for fear
that they're going to be rounded up and disappeared, which
is typical there. But they're pretty darn happy that Manduro
isn't there anymore. Their lives are terrible in Venezuela. So
if the people generally support a transition to a preach
of easta better economy where they're making money and they
(05:22):
have opportunity, isn't she on safer ground going that direction?
Or is this what I would characterize and correct me
if I'm wrong, sir. Smaller minority of loyalists or well
connected people that big of a threat to her that
she wouldn't bother doing that, even if it's the will
of the people.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well, you know, I talked to a friend of mine
here in Washington that has family still in Caracas, and
he was telling me that his reports from the ground
there are similar to what your friend said. That everybody's
still kind of uncertain and afraid. They don't know what
to think, and they don't even know what to believe.
In any case, they do know that the all of
(06:01):
the power structures of the Maduro regime are in place.
The only thing that we got taken out was the head.
But the head is only the head of a system,
and all the system is still fully in place, So
they don't have freedom suddenly that they didn't have before
Maduro was pulled out. And I think they're aware of that, uh,
but they also know, you know, what are you gonna do?
You're gonna have a you know, some kind of an uprising. Well,
(06:23):
the same reason they didn't have an uprising under Maduro
is still the same thing in place here. So there's
no freedom in Venezuela. There's nothing has been changed on
the system level. So right now everybody's waiting to find
out what's going to happen. And listen, we also have
to recognize that all of the hardships on Venezuela is
not just because of this management, though that's a big
(06:44):
part of it, or their corruption, but because of these
crippling sanctions we've had on them for a long time.
So it's that it's some of the people in Venezuela
are not real happy about even what we've been doing
because they recognize that some of this is being imposed
on them from the outside, and still they don't really
Truy's just that they're going to like rise up and
think that we're gonna come and support them because it
could cost them their lives.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That I get. But since the system, as you describe
it is still in place. The head may have been
cut off, but the system is still there. We just
briefly touched on the global realities. We got Iran, China, Russia,
and then of course Cuba, which seems like it's on
his last legs, all inextrictedly entertrined on some level with
Venezuela just because Maduro's gone. Their foot in the door
(07:27):
and the relationship with that with Venezuela generally that hasn't
disappeared at least as far as China, Russia, and I
understand Iran had drone manufacturing facilities in Venezuela as well.
Those relationships remain. Are they on you know, thin ice?
Where are we with them?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
That's what everybody's trying to find out. I'm talking about Beijing, Moscow,
we got Caracas. Everybody's trying to figure out what does
all this going to mean? And no one knows yet
because Venezuela doesn't know. Because the United States we kind
of opened up this can of worms. We don't even know,
we don't know for sure what we're gonna do, what
we're gonna have next, because I think that there are
people in Washington that are fully aware that this snatch
(08:05):
and grab was this huge military operation but had one
solitary objective which they went in, they got out and
came out relatively unscathed. But anything further than that and
you can get yourself into a real problem, you know,
So we don't want to go in real big I
think we want to pretend like we can and threaten
that we will. But I don't think there's a big
(08:25):
appetite for getting into a war that we might just
start an open ended situation that you can't succeed in.
They could be real ugly. And then you know, look,
China has I think it's like eighty billion dollars of
loans and other kinds of security things that they have
given to Venezuela that they need to be repaid. So
they're going to be working hard to make sure their
(08:46):
interest are not sacrificed. Russia has less leverage, but they
certainly are the same interest. And then you haven't even
talked about what about Columbia? Are they next? You know,
what about Mexico. There's threatens there Greenland for crying out loud.
I mean, that'sarently on the hit list too, apparently coming
up within twenty days. We don't know for sure what
Trump meant by that, but that's apparently going to be
on the table too. So there is a lot of
(09:08):
moving pieces here at the same time.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, I'm completely perplexed by the whole Greenland obsession. Honestly, sir,
maybe the greatest piece of real estate in the world,
but what right does the United States have to it?
I keep waiting for that question to be answered. Anyhow,
there aren't any drug boats coming out of Greenland as
far as you know. Are there are there, Daniel, if
I haven't missed anything.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Fishing boats up there, And one wonders if fishing boats
are going to suddenly be a problem. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well, it doesn't appear as that we're going to have
to engage in another failed military exercise like the Bay
of Pigs. Cuba looks like it's on its last legs.
I mean, economically, they were already devastated with the oil
embargos and the sanctions. I know they were getting some
Gratus oil from Venezuela which a lot of which they
were able to sell off in order to help their
(09:54):
own economy or help themselves and line their pockets the
authorities in Cuba. But where do you see Cuba going
if we completely cut off their ability to get any
energy whatsoever?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
You know, I'll tell you this is what perplexes me
even more than the Greenland issues. Real why this avut
right obsession with destroying Cuba. I've been to Cuba and
I can tell you just about seven eight years ago
with a church group that went in there to help
some of the local churches. And they are so poor
they can barely even feed themselves. They're a threat to
(10:27):
literally no one. They can They're lucky to keep the
lights on and some food in grocery stores. So you had,
let's see coach the other day, a former director of
Nashville or a deputy national security advisor say that they
are a big threat to us and now we got
to go get them. And I'm just like puzzled, what
(10:47):
are you talking about? There is no threat, and yet
you heard Marco Rubio is just almost gleeful with the
idea of destroying Cuba. There there's nothing that we need
to worry about why we want to harm them because
they don't pose a threat to us. I don't understand
the obsession.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, I get I think a lot of people remember
the Cuban missile crisis. Russia actually had military installations ere
they did have nukees ninety miles away. But you know,
in a world of hypersonic missiles that can travel halfway
around the globe a matter of seconds, the geography of
the location of missiles isn't quite as important as it
used to be.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And plus that was, you know whatever, almost three quarters
of a century ago.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I mean, I know, I know that just anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
So there's literally nothing there that would cause us as
a state objective the destruction of Cuba. And to me,
it just doesn't look good globally that we have this
big power to the United States that is claiming they're
afraid of this tiny little island that can barely keep
the lights on and we're going to crush them. I mean,
that looks like the classic bully and I don't think
(11:49):
that's going to help our interests worldwide if we carry
through with that.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Maybe it's our interest in bringing the casinos back in
a vacation destination. You could be right.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I hope that you're not, because that would be pretty uh,
pretty callous to destroy a government just so that we
can get somebody to go in there and make some
money on it. But justin you can't eliminate that.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Justin effort at levity, sir, that's all that was now really.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
It might not be levity. That's the probably.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, all good comedy. There is some grain of truth
built into it, and real quick, anything that's really pronounced
me in since were almost at a time between the
Russian and Ukraine situation, where are we on that one?
Are we still the status quo that we typically end
off this?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Uh? Tomorrow is Orthodox Christmas on the seventh of January,
so things are kind of paused a little bit on
the on the front. There's still some activity going on,
uh but but it's kind of low level. But there's
a meeting in Paris today where Witkoff and Jared Kushner
and the UN Ambassador with Whittaker are there. I'm sorry,
(12:55):
you know, Witcock Whittaker are there to try and work
on with Zelensky who just showed up a minute ago
with Macron. They're trying to find nail down security guarantees
for Ukraine. Whitaker said on Fox News this morning that
he thinks they're really close. I heard that before. I
doubt that that's going to be the case, or at
least close to what is the question, But at least
(13:16):
some diplomatic activities are going on. I would look for
kind of a lull in things until sometime after the seventh,
and then things could heat back up pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I hear security guarantees, I think of boots on the
ground from major several different major countries, including the United States,
is that maybe where we're going on that.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
That's what they want. I don't think they're going to
get the American boots on the ground, but apparently Zelenski's
really trying hard to get French and British boots on
the ground, and for some reason they're interested in talking
about that. I don't know why they would want to
do it. Russia has categorically and consistently said any boots
that come on the ground from any NATO force immediately
become legitimate targets, and I think they mean.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
It, okay, fair enough. I don't want to make fun
of the French army. It's too easy. Daniel Davis Deep
Dive the podcast Livity where you get your podcast. I
always enjoy our conversation, sir, and we'll look forward another
edition to this next Tuesday. You have a great week,
my friend, and happy New Year again.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Same to you and thanks and I'll see you next week.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
And podcast my conversation with Daniel from yesterday at fifty
five KRC dot com along with this one which you
can find a little bit later in the morning eight
forty three. Right now, stick around.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
This is fifty five KRC, an iHeartRadio station. This is
Jim
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