Dave Williams is looking out for your taxpayer dollars

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I know it wasn't on your list day, but we
got a new uh it was.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
It was I want to Dave.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're a tax paying human being, are you not?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
You do pay?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
You paid federal taxes on behalf of the city of Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Dave.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
I want to thank you for the labor that you
engaged in that's generated you money that they took from
your paycheck to help fund the Cincinnati Streetcar. The city
Council voted unanimously to accept a quarter of a million
dollar grant from the Federal Transit Administration to upgrade technology
behind the signs that show writers information about when the

(00:39):
when the street car is going to actually show up. Now,
they actually had the signs already in place, but they
haven't had any accurate for accurate information more than a
couple of years because apparently it didn't hook up with
the GPS. They didn't know whether the street car was
at any given time, so they couldn't let writers who
were standing at the streetcar stops know when the train
was actually going to show up. That's going to change now, Oh, goody, goody, goodie.

(01:00):
So appreciate your share the quarter of a million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
You know, I do have a comment, but I don't
think the FCC would be too happy.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Oh my nineteenth year in radio, Dave, I struggle with
that every single day because I can have a rather
saucy tongue when I'm not on the air. So I've
been able to maintain control without slip up. Knock wood.
There is no wood in my studio, but we'll pretend
we're knocking wood and to not jinx me that I

(01:29):
don't drop an FCC non compliant word anyway. On your
list of topics, find David Protecting Taxpayers dot or great site.
He's looking out for the American taxpayer dollar. Is Trump
pursuing free and fair trade? And you answer your own
question in the reporting by David McGarry, No, what I

(01:51):
know Trump had some It sounded like some measure of
success with China and rare earth minerals the other day.
But where are we on fair and fre each and
what's the story behind this one?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Dave Williams.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
It is so confoluted, so mixed up, because one day
the terrorifts are on, the next day the terriffs are off,
and it's providing so much economic uncertainty to businesses, to
consumers and Brian. I have a new theory, and I've
been thinking about this a lot, is that Donald Trump
when he ran his businesses, he negotiated with a lot

(02:25):
of different people. Right now, this was done behind closed doors,
but this is what you do as a businessman. They
say this is going to cost X to build this building.
You say, well, I want to cost why? You know,
waggle then X? You haggle. Absolutely, he did it in
private these he's haggling in public now and the market
is freaking out because they see one hundred and fifty

(02:47):
five percent tariff on China one day, thirty percent, the
next day fifty five and businesses don't know what to do.
Do we buy goods from China? What happens if it's
halfway over here and the tariffs increase? And again, I
like the fact that he's negotiating, but you can't do
that on the world market and not expect some sort

(03:07):
of repercussions like this, and the market listen, don't pay
attention to the market because it's going to be a
pretty safe bet, right It's going to go up, it's
going to go down. But I think the economic uncertainty
that businesses are like do I invest, do I invest
money to expand what do I do? So I think
there in line is a problem with what he's doing

(03:27):
that's so public.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, and I couldn't agree with you more. You need
to be able to plan. You need something concrete on
the table, whether it's you know, whether you prefer something
different or not. At least you know the cards that
you have been dealt and can play them accordingly. I mean,
if someone you know, in the middle of a poker
game was able to take three of your cards and
then give you three different ones, I mean, how can
you bet and anticipate what's coming up? And I mean

(03:51):
it's just I get that. It's like the tax rate.
What's the tax rate going to be? You know, and
businesses worry about that, but once it's in place, regardless
of what the taxes, at least they can plan accordingly. No,
we won't be investing this much this year because my
taxes went up. Yes, we will be investing more in
our business this year because the taxes went down. That
makes its planning. Everybody needs some measure of stability to

(04:13):
do that, and there's really literally no stability in this
whole mess.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
And you know, Brian you make a really good point
about the tax rate, because the one of the tax
rates that they locked in in twenty seventeen was the
corporate tax rate at twenty one percent. Now, a lot
of things are going to expire at the end of
this year if they don't pass this one, big beautiful bill.
But what the one thing that did they did lock
in because they knew that you have to have this,

(04:37):
you know, tax certainty was the twenty one percent corporate
tax rate. So Congress has acknowledged this is that businesses
need this long term planning. So you're absolutely right, yep.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Well, and you know that's one of the things that
I hate the phrase big beautiful bill. Every time I
say it, I just it's just, you know, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
A little piece of your soul is taken away.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
I know, I know, I know, because you know, there's
a lot of it that I consider not beautiful. But
you know, there is some great things and there are
some great things in it. But this starts to illustrate
the point when they did the twenty seventeen tax cuts,
which I think we're great and we're good for the
economy generally speaking, and since they took less of my money.
I feel better about it because I'm not paying for
stuff I don't want to pay, at least not as
much they set to expire. I mean, why didn't they

(05:24):
just lock them in then permanently and then for some
other Congress down the road to have to raise our taxes. See,
this is what irks me about Congress. These deadlines in
there that undo what has been done, which creates this
uncertainty and instability out there every exit number of years.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well, and the spending increases are never some set there's
never an exploration for this spending increases. It's always the
tax cuts. And listen, this is something we've been talking
about for years, is that everyone saw this deadline coming up,
and Congress said, oh, we have plenty of time, We
have plenty of time. And you know, here we are
June of twenty twenty five, and we have six months

(06:02):
left to get this done. And now we're being force
fed this bill that has tax increases. I mean there
are tax increases. You have the endowment tax. And listen,
Trump is going after Harvard, He's trying to get more
money from Harvard in these lefty places. The problem is
our right wing endowments that are going to get hit
by this tax. Right now it's one point four percent,

(06:24):
it's going to go to twenty one percent. So Hilldale College,
a lot of these conservative organizations now are going to
get a tax increase in this in this bill. I'm
not going to say the full name anymore, but through
this legislation, they're going to get a tax increase, which
is counterintuitive and counterproductive.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, and you know, I certainly understand wanting to go
after Harvard. I mean, it's just it has gone so
full on brainwashy left that I don't even understand how
it can be an institution that has any value anymore.
They've undermined the value of the name that they've built
up of so many years.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, and again, you know they're bringing in other people
now and these other tax increases. I don't know if
you've seen this. The remittance tax. Now, if you send
money overseas, you will now all have to pay three
and a half percent. Now, what they're saying is, but
if you're an American, then you'll get the money back
at the end of the year through a tax refund.

(07:24):
So let's say you send money overseas for whatever reason.
My wife is from El Salvador. She sends money to
her mom, right, and she's she's been a US citizen
for twenty twenty five years. Well, you're gonna have to
prove that you're an American citizen. The banks don't track this.
The banks have no idea what you if you're legal,
if you're you know what your status is in this country.

(07:45):
So the bank is going to have to charge you this.
They're going to raise their fees to charge you this
three point five percent. Now, if you are filing your
taxes and use the standard deduction, yeah, you can no
longer do that. You now have to itemize if you
were sending money overseas. It's unnecessary. It's an unnecessary thing

(08:05):
for to be in this bill.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Well, I'm sure maybe that was something the accounting industry
was behind, because if everybody has to now start itemizing,
there's going to be more accountants fired filed because you know,
you can't just easily take the ten thousand dollars and
just call it a day. Plus you have to keep
receipts too.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
So any.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
One of the things that I was unhappy about the
Republicans that they capitulated the Democrat States and raising the
salt to forty thousand dollars, something the Senate may very
well undo. I know they're having conversations about that. I
had Congressman Thomas Massey on yesterday talking about what it
would take to get him to vote for it, since
he was one of the few Republicans voted no. And
he said, well, if the Senate puts that back to

(08:46):
ten thousand dollars and does a couple of other things,
he said, I'll embrace it. But you know, he was
a He's an absolute, outright no on that, and I
certainly understand it. It's a gift to the high tax
Democrat states. They're the ones that raise the taxes so
much that they think they need that forty thousand dollars
that increase or third thirty thousand dollars increase.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
And this affects a very small portion of the country.
We're talking about California, New York, the states that have
been less fiscally responsible with uh with their spending and
with their taxes. That's that's who's going to benefit from this.
So if you are Florida, Texas and you're fiscally responsible,

(09:26):
you're paying for other people's high taxes, and it just
it doesn't make sense. But this is what I'm using.
The air quotes here was negotiated by the House to
get these moderate Republicans to vote for it. And you know,
the deficit, we see increased deficits spending, We see a
debt ceiling that's going to be increased. I mean President
Trump doesn't want a debt ceiling. He says we shouldn't

(09:47):
have a death feeling. Oh my goodness. I mean talk
about any sort of a sidge of fiscal responsibilities out
the window. I mean, if you have no debt ceiling,
I mean, listen, it's not stopping them now. The debt
ceiling is not stopping them. Now. You take that away,
and yikes.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yep, it's a frightening landscape in front of us.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
And every additional dollar we spend, every and the larger
than that massive pile of debt, which is currently almost
what thirty seven trillion dollars gets and then when the interest,
when the bond rate goes up and you refinance or
you end up having to pay more. It's like having
your credit card rate increase. You're going to have to
pay more for debt service. It's already a trillion dollars

(10:27):
a year, Dave. We're just paying on interest.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah, that's a lot of agencies combined. I mean, it's
crazy to think about what a trillion dollars is and
it's more than the defense budget. We're paying more in
interest than we're spending on defense, and we get nothing
from interest. I mean, at least we get a parade
when we spend almost a trillion dollars in defense.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Thank you. Something else that I am not in favor of.
This reminds me so much of the Soviet Union in
North Korea. To roll out all of your military hardware.
I mean, I appreciate celebrating the anniversary of the Armed
Forces or the United States Army, and that's a glorious thing.
They're great people. They do wonderful things. I'm a huge
support of the American military personnel and the veterans. But

(11:14):
you know, Dave, another thing. I know you've noticed they
haven't been able to pass an audit eight times in
a row. You think there's any fraud, wasting abuse in
the trillion dollar defense bending bill, Dave.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
And we're talking about not passing an audit, but they
lose engines. I'm not kidding that they said, well, we're
supposed to have fifteen engines, but we only count twelve.
We don't know where the three went. I mean, and
these are you know, massive pieces of equipment. So we're
not talking about pencils and you know post it notes.
We're talking about big pieces of equipment that go missing

(11:46):
and they're unaccounted for. So this is hundreds of billions
of dollars. Like you said, you know, it's been years
since they've been able to pass an audit, and they've
never passing audit.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Where did that tank go? Wasn't it parked there yesterday?
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Speaker 1 (14:08):
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Speaker 2 (14:18):
Since really have a we went really long.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
In the last segment day, and I don't want to
give short shrift to the food stamp crackdown, so let's pause.
We'll save that one for the next segment, we've learned
a lot. I mean, these protests that are going on
a lot of Los Angeles, some may call them riots
you choose, but the funding that's behind them, and we
find out that there are organizations out there the American
taxpayers have actually funded to fund a what I would

(14:44):
argue is a leftist, you know, pro illegal immigration ideology
that's run contrary to the Trump administration's philosophies. I know
Biden didn't have any problem with it, but how is
it the American taxpayers funding organizations that have a political affiliation.
I mean, if American taxpayer dollars were going to churches,
people would be screaming and wailing and gnashing of teeth.

(15:05):
But you know, a lot of these organizations, in my mind,
take a leap of faith like attitude, much like religion does.
They're not much different from religion.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, this is sort of the untold story of what's happening.
Is because you have a lot of nonprofits that receive
money from taxpayers, right, And we put out a report
this was years ago, called phony philanthropy. Is that we
are now? You know, Brian, you and I we are
members of these organizations because we're taxpayers, but we don't
agree with their mission. Listen, if you want to donate

(15:34):
money to an organization, that's your money, don't use my
money right to keep an organization propped up that I
don't agree with. And let's look at what's going to
happen next. Is taxpayer money is going to be used
to rebuild Los Angeles and what's happening there. And consumers
are also going to be on the hook for increased insurance.

(15:55):
We've sawd this with the with the fires of the
California fires. So this this is not just who's funding this,
but who's going to fund the cleanup in the aftermath,
And it's always the US sax bear, always a taxpayer.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Excellent point.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Same thing in the aftermath of the Black Lives Matter
riots where federal buildings were smashed and burned and Antifa
those are federal buildings. That means you and I are
going to pay for them. All right, Dave, we're gonna
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Speaker 1 (18:32):
Hey, it's seven twenty nine right now, betch five KRCD
talk station. You find Dave Williams and the Taxpayer Protection
Alliance online at Protecting Taxpayers dot org. Dave a real
terrible situation. East illustrated in one of the frauds that
they were able to find in this NAP program, thirty
million dollars in EBT transactions, fraudulently issued applications and misappropriate

(18:55):
USDA licenses, EBT terminals at unauthorized stores like smoke shops
and other businesses that shouldn't qualify. And oh look, part
of the problem is even folks working within the government
and these programs which people hold so valuable well, are
engaging in fraud and facilitating this kind of thing. With
the USDA employee or LASA Davis sold confidential government information

(19:19):
to the criminals that I just mentioned. We're involved in
this thirty million dollar fix. This is just one of
probably gazillions of issue or illustrations of fraud in the
food stamp program.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, this is frustrating, to say the least, because we
went to EBT, the electronic benefit transfer. I believe it
was two thousand and four in the early two thousands
to try to combat the waste for abuse with paper
food stamps. And listen, that's how you do it. I mean,
you haven't a lot electronic paper trail. But you know,
thieves always find a way to game the system, and

(19:54):
this is what's happening. And you mentioned something that is
really critical in that story is that the call is
coming from inside the house. Yes, is that you have
a USDA employee who is part of this. And you
mentioned that thirty million dollars is one particular case, but
they are estimating it could be up to two hundred
billion dollars it's lost to fraud in the foodstamp program.

(20:17):
I mean, that is an insane number to consider and
to think about, you know, having that we could save
one hundred billion dollars. So when conference says no idea
where we can save money, well, here you go. I mean,
here's this one of many things. But again, criminals always
find a way to rob. And when you're the government,

(20:38):
it's easy to rub the government because they aren't watching it.
Systems are usually very weak. I mean, you have the
IRS that has forty to fifty year old IT system,
so it's no surprise that this is happening, Brian.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
It's like the aviation system. They're still using floppy discs
to help keep track of airplanes in the sky, which
is scary.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Newark, New Jersey does not have a fiber connection. So
that's why some of the outgies that have occurred is
they don't have the latest Internet. I mean, they don't
have gig service at Newark, New Jersey Airport. They are
using with you know, fifteen twenty year old technology.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
So yeah, using.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Twelve hundred bod modems with the regular telephone remember those.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Days, Yeah, I had the good old days.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Well, you know, the practical reality is this is because
I think if the government was actually a business that
had to run efficiently or it would go out of business.
So I know we're on that existential threat given how
much we overspend. But that aside, there's no incentive by
government to crack down on this. They don't have to
earn money. They merely take it, and you know, they

(21:42):
operate and they just continue to go on their merry
way in spite of the fact that they could be
saving the American taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars in
one program alone. They really don't really take much by
way of action to stop anything from happening, and that's
why it slips through the cracks. It's easy to rip
the government off because they're not attentive to where the
money's going.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
And there's no consequences private business if there's If there's fraud,
you get fired and maybe other you know, you prosecuted
in the government, you get shifted to another part of
the agency or maybe another agency. And again not to
harp on the IRS. Yeah, to harp on the IRS.
I mean, we've seen this where information has been leaked

(22:22):
time and time again and there's never been any consequences
for the folks that are leaking this information. So Darren
Line has a problem. This USDA employee is probably going
to get a slap on the wrist and then a
two percent bump in their pay next year. I mean,
this is what happens. But as you said, in the
private sector, it doesn't happen. So why not look at
the things that the government shouldn't be doing and give

(22:44):
it to the private sector and say, Okay, we're going
to get better results from this. And but we're going
in the opposite direction where the government is saying that
IRS again direct file, we want to prepare your returns. No, no, no, no.
The private sector is doing a really good job at
that HR block and all these other places look out
for you and your money and try to get you
a big refund. So no, we're going the opposite direction here.

(23:07):
You want more of the private sector, not less of it.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah, I mean, at least if you're dealing with an accountant,
there's sort of a fiduciary obligation for them to look
out for your best insurers by properly filing and finding
all the areas where you maybe can make deductions where
you can pay less taxes, that kind of thing. The
federal government in their hands, I mean, their interest is
in maximizing the dollars that come into their operation, not
to reduce them. So there's no way they'd be looking

(23:30):
out for the American taxpayer's best interest exactly.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
And that's why we just have to change the mentality
of the people that are elected that government is not
the answer. Government is the problem, and we need to
come up with better answers. And you know, my concern
is when they're talking about this legislation, the tax cuts.
That's all they're talking about. That's all that they can
focus on. They can only focus on one thing at

(23:55):
a time. There are so many other issues. There's the
postal service, there's a regulatory overreach. Yeah, there's so much
more that they should be talking about, but they're so
focused on just one piece of legislation.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Well, we've identified all kinds of problems, Dave, time and
time and time and time and time again we talk
about this kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
And I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
I mean, maybe the government officials just aren't listening to
you or I or common sense, logic and reason. They
don't care that we're digging ourselves into a hole that
we can't get out of.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
I don't know, they don't. And let me let me
just say I was talking to Joe about this before
I came on the air. Is during this parade on Saturday,
all I asked for is one streetcar to be a
part of this parade. I just want to see a
streetcar going down Constitution Avenue and all its.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Glory, uh, filled filled with members in the army.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
That's too much to ask.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, that's great, I love it.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Oh, Dave Billiams always enjoy our conversations, even though they
can be depressing at times. Make you're shining a bright
light on what needs to be fixed. And maybe someday
you and I will get our wish and they'll fix it.
In the meantime, we'll continue to identify and talk about it.
Look forward to having you back on the program really
soon again Protecting Taxpayers dot org. Dave, have a great
day and week.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
My friend YouTube Brian, Thank you.

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