July 24, 2025 • 26 mins
Brian Thomas talks with Dave Williams of the Taxpayer Protection Alliance to talk about the latest shenanigans with the post office, the GOP forgetting what the free market is in the energy industry and new recycling regulations.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Seven oh five here fifty five PARC DE Talk Station Friday.
Always enjoy when to come into the studio in the
morning and see on the rundown Dave Williams from the
Taxpayer Protection Alliance, holding government accountables what they do each
and every day. Find them online Protecting Taxpayers dot org.
Dave Williams, Welcome back to the Morning show, my friend.
(00:36):
It's always a pleasure to having you on the show.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Good morning, Brian, and I have a question for you
to start off the show. The Washington commanders are looking
for subsidy to build a new stadium, right yep. So
in Washington, d C. We have now a stadium, subsidy
and a street car. So I'm trying to think of
the trifecta here. What would be the third thing to
make this just the trifecta of wasteful and unnecessary spending,
(01:03):
Because I know Cincinnati has the same right, they have subsidies,
they had the streetcar, and I can't think of the
third one to make it a trifecta.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Oh, I don't know, how about some green energy project?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
There you go, bingo, you got it. Okay, we had
the trifecta of government waste stupid.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, and I'm glad you chose you one of our
favorite subjects street car. You Aubity already mentioned that we
always managed to get the street car in there, even
with the only passing reference stadium deals. You and I
talk about that a lot over the years. And you know,
our Ohio budget has six hundred million dollars going directly
to the Cleveland Browns for the purpose of building their
two point plus whatever billion dollar projects. So how that
(01:42):
ended up in the Ohio taxpayer's budget is beyond me.
It really irks me, But there it is governed. He
is a lineight in Veto, and what he did was
line it in Veto's three or four issues that it
would have been baby steps in the right direction to
providing the Ohio property owners with some measure of relief
for property taxes. He struck all those out of the bill,
(02:05):
and yet he stilled allowed six hundred million dollars to
go to the Cleveland Browns. There, I got it out
of my system, Dave. So but moving over top top
five anyway, list of our favorite topics over the years.
The post office. So let's let's talk about the post office.
That's an efficient, well oiled business over there isn't it?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Oh, which sure is sarcasm. Noted they just raised the
cost of first class mail again, went from seventy three
cents to seventy eight cents. And I mean, I'm going
to sound like, you know, one of those old guys,
but I remember when it was fifty five cents. It
doesn't seem like it was too long ago that was
fifty five cents. And here's here's the kicker is that
(02:47):
they're not making money. Is that they keep on losing.
And we're not talking about a little bit of money.
We're talking about billions of dollars a year, and they
keep on raising prices and it's not working. The Aaron
lines of problem is that they raise the prices and
it's not working because the rest of the system is
so messed up. They are spending eighty thousand dollars per
(03:09):
truck for electric vehicles.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Oh yeah, see you brought I had a separate article
that was Olivia Murray over an American thinker did the numbers
crunching on this one, and part of the Inflation Reduction
Act allocated money to go to the Post Office for
the purpose of transforming their feet into a fleet into
electric vehicles. Right, Apparently they want forty five thousand electric
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battery powered postal service vehicles in this in this Grand Plan,
vehicles were supposed to be This acquisition supposed to be
completed by September of twenty twenty eight, funded by in part,
is a ten billion dollar total overall cost project. Three
billion of that comes from the so called Inflation Reduction Act,
the Green New Deal Bill right President Biden signed in
(03:55):
twenty twenty two. So from that three billion dollars, currently
one point seven billion has been distributed. It's out the door.
They have acquired two hundred and fifty total trucks, meaning
if you do the proper division or math on that,
it comes out to six point eight million dollars per truck.
(04:17):
And since they've only acquired a small number, they said
at this current rate eighty three vehicles per year, it
would take the government another five hundred and thirty nine
years to finalize the plan. It's supposed to be completed
by twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
They can't do anything, right.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
No, they absolutely can't. And the Inspector General at the
Post Office has been warning about this for years and
telling them not to do this. Not to buy electric
vehicles because of the maintenance cost, because of downtime, you know,
just charging these vehicles. It takes time to charge the vehicles,
so they aren't listening. And when you talk about the
(04:57):
number of vehicles that have already been purchased, I mean,
this is just embarrassing, to say the least. And there
is a new Postmaster General and hopefully you know he
and he just started I think last week. So yeah,
let's see what this guy can do. And so his
first name is David, So I have a lot of faith,
you know. I don't know if that's something that well,
(05:17):
we'll see. But there's there's management problems. There's so many deep,
deep problems at the post Office. And obviously the glaring
one is spending all this money on electric vehicles.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I mean, it really is. But it's just one additional expenditure,
you know. I mean, if they're they're looking, you have
an imagery reported and you know the numbers on this.
The United States Postal Service has lost more than one
hundred billion dollars over the past fifteen years, and they're
continuing down that road currently. I guess how many billions
of dollars have they left had lost so far this year.
(05:48):
It's like three billion dollars, three billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
And if they would end Saturday delivery, they could save
two point six billion dollars a year just ending Saturday delivery.
That is an incredible number to think that it could
be saved easily.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Well, but that wouldn't even solve the problem. It's a
great step in the right direction. Dave Williams tax Favoritextion Alliance.
But apparently they lost nine point five billion dollars collectively
last year alone. So yeah, save two point five billion dollars.
Let's get that figure down to seven billion dollars in loss.
That'd be a notable improvement. But that's still seven billion
(06:27):
dollars in loss. This is a business model. This isn't
even a business model.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
No, it's not a business model. You look at seasonal
hiring and we're going to hear about the Post Office
hiring people for Christmas. Well, what happens with the Post
Office is when they hire someone for a seasonal work,
they offered them a full time job afterwards. FedEx and
ups hire seasonally and they don't hire them full time
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afterwards because it's seasonal. It's only for a few months.
But because of what the unions have done inside the
Postal service is that they're required to offer them a
full time job after Christmas. And again you said it,
it's not a business. They don't have any business sense whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Well, how is it the American tax payer dollars are
supporting all of this.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I'll tell you what it is. There's a nostalgia about
the post office, and rightly so, because you know, you
meet your mail deliverer and he's a nice guy, she's
a nice woman, right, and you have that bond. But
people don't see the bigger picture. Nostalgia overtakes business sense,
and I think if people really saw the numbers and
understood just how much of a mess the post Office is,
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they would really, I think, change their view. And you know,
this is an entity that tried to get into banking.
Elizabeth warrens, Oh my god, try to get the post
Office into the banking. I mean, that doesn't send a
shiver down your spine. Nothing ever will.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Well, I guess I'm wondering.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I mean, who's going to be responsible for initiating some reform?
I mean, if the union contract requires these part time
employees to be offered full time jobs. That's got to
stop right away. That had to stop years ago. Why
isn't that element being addressed. That's clearly a problem, Dave.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I hate to say this, but this is up to Congress.
And Congress did the Postal Reform Act a few years ago,
and their big savings was taking the healthcare costs of
postal employees and shifting it over to Medicare. Well, it's
still a taxpayer cost. They thought that they were doing
the post Office and taxpayers a wonderful thing by doing this,
(08:37):
but that's just shifting the burden from one part of
the government to another. This is what Congress did, and
but Congress needs to do this. They need to go
inside the post Office and completely reorganize it. And I
know when you talk about privatization, people you know, lose
their minds. And I'm not saying privatize it, but I
gotta tell you, we may have to start to look
(08:59):
at that and maybe privatizing certain parts of it because
it just isn't working. And they get a bailout every
time they get a bailout from taxpayers. So that's why
they don't have the pressure to make money. Is they
know that Uncle Sam and uncle taxpayer is right there
to bail them out.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Going back to your comment about nostalgia, maybe I'm just
a cold and callous guy day, but I don't have
that nostalgia. Every time I go to the mailbox, I
retrieve usually what amounts about three or four pieces of
junk mail. Maybe three times a week I get some
sort of mail that actually is important in some way,
(09:37):
shape or form. Now I could go electronic billing. When
it comes to say, my cell phone, I like getting
the hard copy of the bill. My wife has paperwork
to do for reimbursement from work, so you know, but
I don't really even need that delivered. I could have
it go to my email. I could pay it online,
and I do pay the bill online. I don't stick
a stamp on an envelope and send Verizon a check.
So I've cut out half of the mail needed for
(09:58):
that transaction. But in the final analysis, you know, if
the mail showed up one day a week, that will
be a Okay. I get all my junk mail. I
can sort through a throw it away because it goes
directly into the garbage, can recycle and pull out the
stuff that really is important. I mean, the times have
obviously changed so dramatically. The need for the Post Office,
(10:19):
well of its current size anyway, has gone the way
of the DODO.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It has. And when you see other companies that go
through and I said other companies, you know my mistake.
But when you see companies go through this, they downsize,
they change their business model exactly. The Post Office has
not done that. They do the same thing over and
over again, expecting a different result.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
All right, which is why they lost one hundred billion
dollars in the past fifteen years. We'll continue with taxpayer
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Speaker 3 (12:14):
All right?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
See you address this political article political reporting that the
Department of Interior says the agency's going to subject wind
and this is their words, wind and solar projects to
heightened scrutiny potentially slowing approvals and construction across vast swaths
of some of the most sun and wind rich portions
of the country. Now that sounds typical Politico. They're obviously
(12:38):
on the green side of the ledge. You're rather left
leaning rags that website is, and I consolt political all
the time in order to get some balance in my
consumption of news. Dave, So, I'm no no stranger. They're
reporting on political but I know where they're where the
wind's blowing from Politico, no pun intended, right, But apparently
what they say is in order to proceed on lands
(13:01):
managed by the Department of Interior, they have to have
the personal assent of the Interior Secretary, who is currently
Doug Bergham. So they're placing the authority to thumb up
or thumb down any given project on Department of Interior
lands to one man.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, So read between the lines and read the lines
on this one. And this is very disturbing because listen,
i'mno fan of green energy, especially the subsidies. But you know,
as a country, this is all of the above. If
you want to invest in green energy, if you want
to develop green energy, without my money without tax payer money.
(13:39):
You should have the ability to do that. And what
this is is the government picking winners and losers. And
this is something that Trump administration has done a lot
of actually picking winners and losers in the economy. And
this is not going to help. Now. Listen, if they
said that we're not going to subsidize any of these projects, amen, brother, Yes,
do not subsidize, But that's not what they're saying. They're
(14:01):
saying is that we are not going to allow this
because we don't like these particular forms of energy. That
really bothers me. It's just weaponization of government.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, and you know, Dave, I think everybody has to
bear in mind that we do have changes of administrations.
And while we're all seen to be quite pleased and
happy with the way things are going into the Trump administration,
there could be a Democrat elect in an office and
the Department of Interior may no longer be run by
Interior Secretary Doug bergerm He could be run by Interior
Secretary or I don't know, Pete, but a judge. So
(14:31):
they would be inclined to approve any wind in solar
projects without any additional scrutiny. I suppose and say no
to perhaps oil or fracking projects that are done in
that land.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And Brian Darren lines the problem because at the Federal
Communications Commission we have them approving or disapproving of mergers
and acquisitions based upon DEI. Again no fan of DEI.
I think it has no place in business. But if
a business will us to do that, that is their business.
(15:03):
The problem is that you were having the government is
saying you have to get rid of your DEI policies
or I'm not going to allow you to merge with
these two companies. Well again, what happens in the next
administration if it's a Democrat and they say, well, you
have to have DEE policies in order to acquire this.
So this is going to bite them in the back
(15:24):
end at some point. Yeah, this weaponization and it really
bothers me that they're doing this. And you know, Brendan Carr,
who's the chairman of the SEC, has done a really
good job deregulating. But this is very troublesome.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It is, and I understand all day along the points
you're springing from here, Dave, but it and just to
hammer the point home, if private business a wants to
merge with private business b then my belief is the
federal government shouldn't have anything to say about the terms
of conditions of what that agreement is. I mean, unless
it falls into perhaps Sherman antitrust or something along those lines.
(16:02):
What's the problem with letting them merge. Why would you
have to say you can't do this or you must
do this in order for us, the federal government to
put a stamp of approval on the merger. It's a
shocking illustration of how much power and control the federal
government has over completely private business.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah. I mean, when you're talking about two wireless companies merging,
we're not talking about standard oil.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, they're not subsidized.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
This isn't They're not getting federal dollars to run their business.
I mean, they're just they're just running their businesses.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, And that's why, you know, I would love to
see the old Republican Party take hold as you know,
limited government, you know, and really, you know, merging and
acquisitions I think are a really good indication of just
how activist a government is. And unfortunately we see a
disturbing trend in the Trump administration. But again, you know, listen,
(16:55):
that's you know, prefaces by saying that it's a heck
of a lot better than it would be under iris.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Richie, gotta put a positive spin on that.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
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Speaker 1 (18:05):
Here fifty five KIRR C DE Talk Station. Spend some
time with Dave Williams from the Taxpayer Protection Alliance. Always
enjoy our conversation Dave. Even though they involve important issues,
usually big, big money and how it's misspent. We at
least try to keep things a little light when talking
about it. And now we're pivoting over to recycling. What's
going on more regulations, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
So recycling has really come a long way over the
past ten, fifteen, twenty years, and we see just really
a renaissance in how they're able to deal with plastics,
and of course the government doesn't recognize that, and of
course the companies are bad. They're trying to pollute the planet,
which you know, I never understood. Why would you want
to pollute and kill the people that you're selling your
(18:50):
product to. I don't, you know, understand the logic. But
there the EPA is refusing to acknowledge new ways to
recycle plastics. And yeah, part of the problem is is
that a lot of blame gets placed on the US
for other countries that are doing the biggest damage. And
we've seen these you know, flotilla's of plastic emotion, and
(19:12):
I think it's like one or two percent of that
actually comes from the US, and it you know, the
bulk of that comes from other countries.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Because we have a good sanitation system. We have garbage
cans literally everywhere, they're ubiquitous. We have recycling programs. I
even have a separate recycling garbage can that Rumpky comes
and picks up. We have trash, and we have recycling.
Now I don't believe it for a minute that those
recyclables we put in that can Dave are actually getting recycled,
but I try. I do my best to separate them,
(19:41):
and we endeavor to conform and try to keep that
stuff because I don't believe in throwing something away that
has a useful life. Now, what Rumkey ultimately does with
it outside of my realm of knowledge, but you know,
there it is. It's easy to do. That's why we
don't pollute as much as other countries. Other countries don't
even have sewage systems.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
And if these companies can take plastic or aluminum or
whatever and turn it into something else. They're going to
make money off of that. Dumping it into a landfill
does not make money for a company. Recycling does and
producing something else. And you know, one thing we haven't
talked about our you know, plastic bags versus paper bags.
(20:19):
There is a lot of scientific evidence that says that
paper bags take more energy to produce and are actually
worse for the environment than plastic bags, and yet plastic
bags are the ones that are taxed. And yeah, it's
it's incredible the lack of knowledge of science that the
government has and I think people in general have at
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this point, well you.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Know, and craming if I'm wrong, But I've read so
many articles over the year's dave that recycling doesn't work.
That if there was money to be made in recycling,
then there'll be clamoring out there to you know, collect
all the recyclables out there and make money off of them.
But I I I've consistently read though, that that's not
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going on. And it was a period of time where
weren't we sending a lot of our plastics for recycling
to China and then China said no, we don't want them.
We can't do anything with them.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah, there was, and you know, and really China is
such a problem with a lot of things. But when
we talk about recycling or the environment, you know, they're
the ones that are never going to conform to a treaty.
They're the ones that are going to you know, be
the big polluters. And again, you know, there's a lot
of blame America and it comes with inside this country.
(21:34):
And I got to tell you that the plastics revolution
is fascinating and companies are coming up with new technologies.
It's not you know, this isn't the seventies, This isn't
the Indian.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Crime on the I remember that.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, bag feet, Yeah, yeah, we've come a long way.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Baby. As the mixed sort of metaphors here, So.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
You mentioned in the article pi rolysis, it's a it's
a different process. They have some newly developed process for
recycling plastics, and the EPAS is not acknowledging that or
preventing that move from preventing it.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
They're they're they're actively preventing this and this is something
that could turn plastics into into fuels. So, I mean,
it's really just short sighted of the EPA. Listen, this
is very little to do with kind of who's in power.
These are the bureaucrats that have been here for years
and that have a singular point of view and vision,
(22:34):
and they refuse to look outside, you know, u of
their own comfort zone a box, to see what these
new technologies are and what they can bring. It's it's frustrating,
to say the least.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Well, this process obviously exists. You have information discussing the
process and how it works, and you know the temperatures
and everything else. You also have the the the the
cost benefit that could come from this six hundred and
nine hund dollars per time after this process of plastic
is performed. So there it is. It's all there. Why
would the EPA stand in the way of this allowing
(23:07):
this process to come online?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I guess is what I'm looking for.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I don't know. If I had the answer, if I
could crawl inside a bureaucrat's head and figure out what
the heck was going on inside there, I'd be a
rich rich man.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
They don't have to provide an explanation for why. I mean,
they can't say no, this is actually everything you say
is true, but the amount of pollutants and carcinogens that
go out into the world in the environment far exceed
the benefit from this recycling process. Ergo, we're gonna say no,
none of that's in this.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
They slow walk everything. Look at the process at the
FDA to approve vapes and new tobacco harm reduction. They
have a shot clock of eighteen months, right, well, some
products have been under review for seven years. They low
walk everything and they don't provide any sort of answers
(24:03):
or rationale for what they're doing. And that's exactly what's
happened at the EPA right now.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
God, it sounds like something from a Kafka novel.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yes, Yes, making blush geez.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Dave Williams Taxpayer text lines. That's what we have you around.
You can just illustrate and highlight this stupidity and epic
insanity of the regulatory state. And I appreciate you doing that,
and I'll welcome your return of the fifty five KC
Morning Show as soon as you're ready to do it
again and again. Remind my listeners. Protecting Taxpayers dot Org
agreed what Dave is writing about every single day and
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Keep up the great work, my friend, and stay well.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Thanks, Brian, have a great day.
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It's always a pleasure to having you on the show.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Good morning, Brian, and I have a question for you
to start off the show. The Washington commanders are looking
for subsidy to build a new stadium, right yep. So
in Washington, d C. We have now a stadium, subsidy
and a street car. So I'm trying to think of
the trifecta here. What would be the third thing to
make this just the trifecta of wasteful and unnecessary spending,
(01:03):
Because I know Cincinnati has the same right, they have subsidies,
they had the streetcar, and I can't think of the
third one to make it a trifecta.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Oh, I don't know, how about some green energy project?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
There you go, bingo, you got it. Okay, we had
the trifecta of government waste stupid.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, and I'm glad you chose you one of our
favorite subjects street car. You Aubity already mentioned that we
always managed to get the street car in there, even
with the only passing reference stadium deals. You and I
talk about that a lot over the years. And you know,
our Ohio budget has six hundred million dollars going directly
to the Cleveland Browns for the purpose of building their
two point plus whatever billion dollar projects. So how that
(01:42):
ended up in the Ohio taxpayer's budget is beyond me.
It really irks me, But there it is governed. He
is a lineight in Veto, and what he did was
line it in Veto's three or four issues that it
would have been baby steps in the right direction to
providing the Ohio property owners with some measure of relief
for property taxes. He struck all those out of the bill,
(02:05):
and yet he stilled allowed six hundred million dollars to
go to the Cleveland Browns. There, I got it out
of my system, Dave. So but moving over top top
five anyway, list of our favorite topics over the years.
The post office. So let's let's talk about the post office.
That's an efficient, well oiled business over there isn't it?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Oh, which sure is sarcasm. Noted they just raised the
cost of first class mail again, went from seventy three
cents to seventy eight cents. And I mean, I'm going
to sound like, you know, one of those old guys,
but I remember when it was fifty five cents. It
doesn't seem like it was too long ago that was
fifty five cents. And here's here's the kicker is that
(02:47):
they're not making money. Is that they keep on losing.
And we're not talking about a little bit of money.
We're talking about billions of dollars a year, and they
keep on raising prices and it's not working. The Aaron
lines of problem is that they raise the prices and
it's not working because the rest of the system is
so messed up. They are spending eighty thousand dollars per
(03:09):
truck for electric vehicles.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Oh yeah, see you brought I had a separate article
that was Olivia Murray over an American thinker did the numbers
crunching on this one, and part of the Inflation Reduction
Act allocated money to go to the Post Office for
the purpose of transforming their feet into a fleet into
electric vehicles. Right, Apparently they want forty five thousand electric
(03:32):
battery powered postal service vehicles in this in this Grand Plan,
vehicles were supposed to be This acquisition supposed to be
completed by September of twenty twenty eight, funded by in part,
is a ten billion dollar total overall cost project. Three
billion of that comes from the so called Inflation Reduction Act,
the Green New Deal Bill right President Biden signed in
(03:55):
twenty twenty two. So from that three billion dollars, currently
one point seven billion has been distributed. It's out the door.
They have acquired two hundred and fifty total trucks, meaning
if you do the proper division or math on that,
it comes out to six point eight million dollars per truck.
(04:17):
And since they've only acquired a small number, they said
at this current rate eighty three vehicles per year, it
would take the government another five hundred and thirty nine
years to finalize the plan. It's supposed to be completed
by twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
They can't do anything, right.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
No, they absolutely can't. And the Inspector General at the
Post Office has been warning about this for years and
telling them not to do this. Not to buy electric
vehicles because of the maintenance cost, because of downtime, you know,
just charging these vehicles. It takes time to charge the vehicles,
so they aren't listening. And when you talk about the
(04:57):
number of vehicles that have already been purchased, I mean,
this is just embarrassing, to say the least. And there
is a new Postmaster General and hopefully you know he
and he just started I think last week. So yeah,
let's see what this guy can do. And so his
first name is David, So I have a lot of faith,
you know. I don't know if that's something that well,
(05:17):
we'll see. But there's there's management problems. There's so many deep,
deep problems at the post Office. And obviously the glaring
one is spending all this money on electric vehicles.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I mean, it really is. But it's just one additional expenditure,
you know. I mean, if they're they're looking, you have
an imagery reported and you know the numbers on this.
The United States Postal Service has lost more than one
hundred billion dollars over the past fifteen years, and they're
continuing down that road currently. I guess how many billions
of dollars have they left had lost so far this year.
(05:48):
It's like three billion dollars, three billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
And if they would end Saturday delivery, they could save
two point six billion dollars a year just ending Saturday delivery.
That is an incredible number to think that it could
be saved easily.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Well, but that wouldn't even solve the problem. It's a
great step in the right direction. Dave Williams tax Favoritextion Alliance.
But apparently they lost nine point five billion dollars collectively
last year alone. So yeah, save two point five billion dollars.
Let's get that figure down to seven billion dollars in loss.
That'd be a notable improvement. But that's still seven billion
(06:27):
dollars in loss. This is a business model. This isn't
even a business model.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
No, it's not a business model. You look at seasonal
hiring and we're going to hear about the Post Office
hiring people for Christmas. Well, what happens with the Post
Office is when they hire someone for a seasonal work,
they offered them a full time job afterwards. FedEx and
ups hire seasonally and they don't hire them full time
(06:53):
afterwards because it's seasonal. It's only for a few months.
But because of what the unions have done inside the
Postal service is that they're required to offer them a
full time job after Christmas. And again you said it,
it's not a business. They don't have any business sense whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Well, how is it the American tax payer dollars are
supporting all of this.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I'll tell you what it is. There's a nostalgia about
the post office, and rightly so, because you know, you
meet your mail deliverer and he's a nice guy, she's
a nice woman, right, and you have that bond. But
people don't see the bigger picture. Nostalgia overtakes business sense,
and I think if people really saw the numbers and
understood just how much of a mess the post Office is,
(07:41):
they would really, I think, change their view. And you know,
this is an entity that tried to get into banking.
Elizabeth warrens, Oh my god, try to get the post
Office into the banking. I mean, that doesn't send a
shiver down your spine. Nothing ever will.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Well, I guess I'm wondering.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I mean, who's going to be responsible for initiating some reform?
I mean, if the union contract requires these part time
employees to be offered full time jobs. That's got to
stop right away. That had to stop years ago. Why
isn't that element being addressed. That's clearly a problem, Dave.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I hate to say this, but this is up to Congress.
And Congress did the Postal Reform Act a few years ago,
and their big savings was taking the healthcare costs of
postal employees and shifting it over to Medicare. Well, it's
still a taxpayer cost. They thought that they were doing
the post Office and taxpayers a wonderful thing by doing this,
(08:37):
but that's just shifting the burden from one part of
the government to another. This is what Congress did, and
but Congress needs to do this. They need to go
inside the post Office and completely reorganize it. And I
know when you talk about privatization, people you know, lose
their minds. And I'm not saying privatize it, but I
gotta tell you, we may have to start to look
(08:59):
at that and maybe privatizing certain parts of it because
it just isn't working. And they get a bailout every
time they get a bailout from taxpayers. So that's why
they don't have the pressure to make money. Is they
know that Uncle Sam and uncle taxpayer is right there
to bail them out.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Going back to your comment about nostalgia, maybe I'm just
a cold and callous guy day, but I don't have
that nostalgia. Every time I go to the mailbox, I
retrieve usually what amounts about three or four pieces of
junk mail. Maybe three times a week I get some
sort of mail that actually is important in some way,
(09:37):
shape or form. Now I could go electronic billing. When
it comes to say, my cell phone, I like getting
the hard copy of the bill. My wife has paperwork
to do for reimbursement from work, so you know, but
I don't really even need that delivered. I could have
it go to my email. I could pay it online,
and I do pay the bill online. I don't stick
a stamp on an envelope and send Verizon a check.
So I've cut out half of the mail needed for
(09:58):
that transaction. But in the final analysis, you know, if
the mail showed up one day a week, that will
be a Okay. I get all my junk mail. I
can sort through a throw it away because it goes
directly into the garbage, can recycle and pull out the
stuff that really is important. I mean, the times have
obviously changed so dramatically. The need for the Post Office,
(10:19):
well of its current size anyway, has gone the way
of the DODO.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It has. And when you see other companies that go
through and I said other companies, you know my mistake.
But when you see companies go through this, they downsize,
they change their business model exactly. The Post Office has
not done that. They do the same thing over and
over again, expecting a different result.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
All right, which is why they lost one hundred billion
dollars in the past fifteen years. We'll continue with taxpayer
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Speaker 3 (12:14):
All right?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
See you address this political article political reporting that the
Department of Interior says the agency's going to subject wind
and this is their words, wind and solar projects to
heightened scrutiny potentially slowing approvals and construction across vast swaths
of some of the most sun and wind rich portions
of the country. Now that sounds typical Politico. They're obviously
(12:38):
on the green side of the ledge. You're rather left
leaning rags that website is, and I consolt political all
the time in order to get some balance in my
consumption of news. Dave, So, I'm no no stranger. They're
reporting on political but I know where they're where the
wind's blowing from Politico, no pun intended, right, But apparently
what they say is in order to proceed on lands
(13:01):
managed by the Department of Interior, they have to have
the personal assent of the Interior Secretary, who is currently
Doug Bergham. So they're placing the authority to thumb up
or thumb down any given project on Department of Interior
lands to one man.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, So read between the lines and read the lines
on this one. And this is very disturbing because listen,
i'mno fan of green energy, especially the subsidies. But you know,
as a country, this is all of the above. If
you want to invest in green energy, if you want
to develop green energy, without my money without tax payer money.
(13:39):
You should have the ability to do that. And what
this is is the government picking winners and losers. And
this is something that Trump administration has done a lot
of actually picking winners and losers in the economy. And
this is not going to help. Now. Listen, if they
said that we're not going to subsidize any of these projects, amen, brother, Yes,
do not subsidize, But that's not what they're saying. They're
(14:01):
saying is that we are not going to allow this
because we don't like these particular forms of energy. That
really bothers me. It's just weaponization of government.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, and you know, Dave, I think everybody has to
bear in mind that we do have changes of administrations.
And while we're all seen to be quite pleased and
happy with the way things are going into the Trump administration,
there could be a Democrat elect in an office and
the Department of Interior may no longer be run by
Interior Secretary Doug bergerm He could be run by Interior
Secretary or I don't know, Pete, but a judge. So
(14:31):
they would be inclined to approve any wind in solar
projects without any additional scrutiny. I suppose and say no
to perhaps oil or fracking projects that are done in
that land.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And Brian Darren lines the problem because at the Federal
Communications Commission we have them approving or disapproving of mergers
and acquisitions based upon DEI. Again no fan of DEI.
I think it has no place in business. But if
a business will us to do that, that is their business.
(15:03):
The problem is that you were having the government is
saying you have to get rid of your DEI policies
or I'm not going to allow you to merge with
these two companies. Well again, what happens in the next
administration if it's a Democrat and they say, well, you
have to have DEE policies in order to acquire this.
So this is going to bite them in the back
(15:24):
end at some point. Yeah, this weaponization and it really
bothers me that they're doing this. And you know, Brendan Carr,
who's the chairman of the SEC, has done a really
good job deregulating. But this is very troublesome.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It is, and I understand all day along the points
you're springing from here, Dave, but it and just to
hammer the point home, if private business a wants to
merge with private business b then my belief is the
federal government shouldn't have anything to say about the terms
of conditions of what that agreement is. I mean, unless
it falls into perhaps Sherman antitrust or something along those lines.
(16:02):
What's the problem with letting them merge. Why would you
have to say you can't do this or you must
do this in order for us, the federal government to
put a stamp of approval on the merger. It's a
shocking illustration of how much power and control the federal
government has over completely private business.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah. I mean, when you're talking about two wireless companies merging,
we're not talking about standard oil.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, they're not subsidized.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
This isn't They're not getting federal dollars to run their business.
I mean, they're just they're just running their businesses.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, And that's why, you know, I would love to
see the old Republican Party take hold as you know,
limited government, you know, and really, you know, merging and
acquisitions I think are a really good indication of just
how activist a government is. And unfortunately we see a
disturbing trend in the Trump administration. But again, you know, listen,
(16:55):
that's you know, prefaces by saying that it's a heck
of a lot better than it would be under iris.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Richie, gotta put a positive spin on that.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
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Speaker 1 (18:05):
Here fifty five KIRR C DE Talk Station. Spend some
time with Dave Williams from the Taxpayer Protection Alliance. Always
enjoy our conversation Dave. Even though they involve important issues,
usually big, big money and how it's misspent. We at
least try to keep things a little light when talking
about it. And now we're pivoting over to recycling. What's
going on more regulations, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
So recycling has really come a long way over the
past ten, fifteen, twenty years, and we see just really
a renaissance in how they're able to deal with plastics,
and of course the government doesn't recognize that, and of
course the companies are bad. They're trying to pollute the planet,
which you know, I never understood. Why would you want
to pollute and kill the people that you're selling your
(18:50):
product to. I don't, you know, understand the logic. But
there the EPA is refusing to acknowledge new ways to
recycle plastics. And yeah, part of the problem is is
that a lot of blame gets placed on the US
for other countries that are doing the biggest damage. And
we've seen these you know, flotilla's of plastic emotion, and
(19:12):
I think it's like one or two percent of that
actually comes from the US, and it you know, the
bulk of that comes from other countries.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Because we have a good sanitation system. We have garbage
cans literally everywhere, they're ubiquitous. We have recycling programs. I
even have a separate recycling garbage can that Rumpky comes
and picks up. We have trash, and we have recycling.
Now I don't believe it for a minute that those
recyclables we put in that can Dave are actually getting recycled,
but I try. I do my best to separate them,
(19:41):
and we endeavor to conform and try to keep that
stuff because I don't believe in throwing something away that
has a useful life. Now, what Rumkey ultimately does with
it outside of my realm of knowledge, but you know,
there it is. It's easy to do. That's why we
don't pollute as much as other countries. Other countries don't
even have sewage systems.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
And if these companies can take plastic or aluminum or
whatever and turn it into something else. They're going to
make money off of that. Dumping it into a landfill
does not make money for a company. Recycling does and
producing something else. And you know, one thing we haven't
talked about our you know, plastic bags versus paper bags.
(20:19):
There is a lot of scientific evidence that says that
paper bags take more energy to produce and are actually
worse for the environment than plastic bags, and yet plastic
bags are the ones that are taxed. And yeah, it's
it's incredible the lack of knowledge of science that the
government has and I think people in general have at
(20:40):
this point, well you.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Know, and craming if I'm wrong, But I've read so
many articles over the year's dave that recycling doesn't work.
That if there was money to be made in recycling,
then there'll be clamoring out there to you know, collect
all the recyclables out there and make money off of them.
But I I I've consistently read though, that that's not
(21:03):
going on. And it was a period of time where
weren't we sending a lot of our plastics for recycling
to China and then China said no, we don't want them.
We can't do anything with them.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah, there was, and you know, and really China is
such a problem with a lot of things. But when
we talk about recycling or the environment, you know, they're
the ones that are never going to conform to a treaty.
They're the ones that are going to you know, be
the big polluters. And again, you know, there's a lot
of blame America and it comes with inside this country.
(21:34):
And I got to tell you that the plastics revolution
is fascinating and companies are coming up with new technologies.
It's not you know, this isn't the seventies, This isn't
the Indian.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Crime on the I remember that.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, bag feet, Yeah, yeah, we've come a long way.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Baby. As the mixed sort of metaphors here, So.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
You mentioned in the article pi rolysis, it's a it's
a different process. They have some newly developed process for
recycling plastics, and the EPAS is not acknowledging that or
preventing that move from preventing it.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
They're they're they're actively preventing this and this is something
that could turn plastics into into fuels. So, I mean,
it's really just short sighted of the EPA. Listen, this
is very little to do with kind of who's in power.
These are the bureaucrats that have been here for years
and that have a singular point of view and vision,
(22:34):
and they refuse to look outside, you know, u of
their own comfort zone a box, to see what these
new technologies are and what they can bring. It's it's frustrating,
to say the least.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Well, this process obviously exists. You have information discussing the
process and how it works, and you know the temperatures
and everything else. You also have the the the the
cost benefit that could come from this six hundred and
nine hund dollars per time after this process of plastic
is performed. So there it is. It's all there. Why
would the EPA stand in the way of this allowing
(23:07):
this process to come online?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I guess is what I'm looking for.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I don't know. If I had the answer, if I
could crawl inside a bureaucrat's head and figure out what
the heck was going on inside there, I'd be a
rich rich man.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
They don't have to provide an explanation for why. I mean,
they can't say no, this is actually everything you say
is true, but the amount of pollutants and carcinogens that
go out into the world in the environment far exceed
the benefit from this recycling process. Ergo, we're gonna say no,
none of that's in this.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
They slow walk everything. Look at the process at the
FDA to approve vapes and new tobacco harm reduction. They
have a shot clock of eighteen months, right, well, some
products have been under review for seven years. They low
walk everything and they don't provide any sort of answers
(24:03):
or rationale for what they're doing. And that's exactly what's
happened at the EPA right now.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
God, it sounds like something from a Kafka novel.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yes, Yes, making blush geez.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Dave Williams Taxpayer text lines. That's what we have you around.
You can just illustrate and highlight this stupidity and epic
insanity of the regulatory state. And I appreciate you doing that,
and I'll welcome your return of the fifty five KC
Morning Show as soon as you're ready to do it
again and again. Remind my listeners. Protecting Taxpayers dot Org
agreed what Dave is writing about every single day and
(24:34):
his team there Dave always a pleasure to help you.
Keep up the great work, my friend, and stay well.
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Thanks, Brian, have a great day.
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