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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Karsed Talk Station. It's Friday Eve. Bottom of the Hour.
Jay Ratlip, I heart media aviation expert, join us every week. Today,
I'm really excited to welcome to the frety five Cars
Morning Show. Formerly with Freedom Works and Blaze Media, he's
been with the Competitive Enterprise Institute for why his name
Destri Edwards. He's the media production and studio manager with
a Competitive Enterprise Institute. As a passion for film and politics,
(00:23):
he tries to use storytelling as a way to bridge
the gap between people and policy. And he is here
to talk about an award winning documentary. And the timing
couldn't be better. Man, dear mister President, the Letters of
Julius Sand And while I don't know who Julius sand is,
you're going to explain that, Destri Welcome to the fifty
five carssee Morning Show. I said, the timing is great
because I literally just got done watching Death by Lightning
(00:45):
on Netflix. I loved that. Welcome. It's good to have
you on.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Hey, great to talk with you. Now.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Did did Death by Lightning? For my listeners who don't know?
It was about the president James Garfield and how he
ended up being president and then getting assassinated. It could
come across as a work of fiction. The story was
a really cool one, but it really happened. Did that
series inspire Dear Mister President The Letters of Julius sand
Or was this project a concept you were working on
(01:13):
or had already completed before that one came out.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, it's a good question. I mean, it's by the
timing of things that can look that way. But actually
I was probably two three months into pre production on
my documentary when Death by Lytton was announced, So there's
a pretty good chance they were in the works on
things behind the scenes before I was. As far as
official announcements, I was not aware of it when I started.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So I imagine your documentary or your film, Dear Mister President,
Letters of Julie Stan You're getting a lot of extra
love because people have to be intrigued by the twenty
first President Chester Arthur, who succeeded after the assassination of
President Garfield. He came across as a really, really corrupt
so and so Destri. Did they accurately and I will
(01:57):
move before we move over to your film, did they
accurately portray his level of corruption in Death by Lightning?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah? So it's interesting how they did that. So it
is true that he was a corrupt person coming up
into the vice presidency and he was not a supportive
vice president. I will say Death by Lightning did overplay
some things. For instance, very light Spoil was high, very light,
but he never had any of Garfield's cabinet members kidnapped.
(02:26):
He also never spoke ill of Garfield to the press.
He also didn't try to resign at that point either.
So there's a lot of things that overplays, but the
general concept is true. He definitely was He definitely had
a corrupt past with the spoil system coming into all
of this.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
And again Death by Lightning really revealed the New York
political machine for what it was, which was very very
powerful and Chester Arthur part of that, and one would
have expected him to sort of continue that level of corruption.
But as I believe you point out and dear mister President,
the Letter of Julie, it didn't turn out that way.
He actually turned out to be a bit of a reformer.
(03:04):
Playing into that Julia Sand who was Julius Sand and
how did she become so influential on how his presidency
turned out?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yes, So drawing back to death by lightening again, as
you have seen in the final episode of Garfield's wife,
Lucretia speaks to Arthur in that episode and he gives
like a quick speech encouraging him to step up and
reform himself. So that never happened in real life. He
(03:33):
never had that kind of conversation with the Christia Garfield.
But what the filmmakers did there is the actually drew
those words of the paraphrase from what Julius Sand had written.
So after Garfield was shot by Charles Gatteau, the country
was fearful about what was happening. Arthur was also fearful
because he had no intention of becoming president. He had
(03:54):
never wanted that. He felt fully unqualified to be the president.
And so a few weeks to Garfield being on his deathbed,
as everyone was fearing that he would pass away. As
of course, she eventually did. This woman Julius Sand, who
was just a normal constituent from New York City, she
started writing Arthur. She wrote Arthur and encouraged well. She
(04:16):
started out by telling him that, hey, people are bad
in grief, but do you realize it not so much
because he is dying, but because you were a successor.
And that's kind of I imagine a gut punch to
anybody reading that. But she went on also to encourage him,
telling him, Hey, I'm not asking to res up to
you to resign. I'm asking you to her reform and
be better, to be the president that this country needs
(04:38):
you to be. And she continued writing those letters. She
wrote twenty three letters to him over the next couple
of years, being a conscience to him, giving him admonishment
for things to do wrong or might be wrong, but
also give him encouragement that she believed he could rise
to the occasion.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Well, I find it fascinating, you know, my listeners and
I struggle regularly with you know, reaching out to our politician,
you know, to action. Call your congressman, call to action,
call your senator, send him an email, send him a letter.
No one believes that works. I'm just surprised that the
president of the United States. And granted the population was
much smaller, and I don't know how many people actually
wrote the president, but how is it that she was
(05:15):
able to get his attention and have such a profound
impact on him. Was it kind of a unique thing
for someone to reach out? What caused him to be
to gravitate and take what she had to say by
way of recommendation to heart.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
That's a good question. So even in her first letter,
she assumes that he's received other letters like this, and
maybe he did. We don't have any record of any
other letters he at least nothing else that he kept.
He kept all of her letters, but nothing from anyone else.
And as I was doing this story and talked with
several historians who have broad knowledge of the presidency, I
(05:53):
was asking them, Hey, do you know any other story
like this where a president was influenced in this way
by a normal constituent, And no historian to talk to
had any other example of this level. Like the closest
thing make a point to was a Lincoln growing a beard,
which looks cool, But that's a choice. This is a
(06:15):
unique situation in history that we're looking at here, but
there's no reason has to be unique. We can. I
think that's part of the lesson here is that we
assume that we have no influence on our elected leaders
that we actually do.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Now, did she have some unique political insight? Was she
connected in any way, because apparently she had a sufficient
knowledge of the corruption in how he should reform himself
and move away from that corrupt New York political machine
that he was part of. I mean, what was she
unique in some regard in terms of her knowledge? I
guess I'm just wondering how she was able to push
(06:49):
his button.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I mean, her family was decently well off, but they
had no political connections whatsoever. She would she herself was
actually fairly sickly and didn't get out of the house
an exceptional amount of time, and when she did, it
really took the energy out of her. She read the newspapers,
but she wasn't informed in some kind of way beyond that,
(07:13):
like some kind of inside source, So she didn't know
more than an average person could have.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
So what policies that Chester Arthur embraced and during his
period of reform moving away from his prior corruption. What
policies did he embrace that you can trace directly to
the recommendations of Julia.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Sand Yeah, So the biggest thing we can look at
is the Penelton Act that was referenced to the end
of death by lightning, which is kind of an interesting
arc for Arthur himself because that goes against his entire career.
At that point, he had been at the head of
the spoil system where people get government jobs not based
(07:53):
on their qualifications but based on political favors and who
they knew and who they had helped in the past,
regardless to whether or not they had qualification for their job.
And so the Penalan Act is what kind of started
the path away from that to make actual qualifications and
this wasn't about the political favors being paid out. I
(08:14):
don't know if he's necessarily so much throughout Julie Sand's
letters in Arthur's career that he did things specifically because
Julie Fan asked him to. More so, she was kind
of a conscience to him and was giving him support
to hey, this is what the people want, this is
what you are capable of doing. So there were things
(08:36):
like that tactic chief among them, as well as the
first Chinese Exclusion Act. The Second Chinese Exclusion Act is
a different matter that we discussed in the documentary, but
there are things like that as well as some different
corruption investigations where she would encourage him to, hey, make
sure your administration moves forward the right way on this.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I guess I'm kind of curious did he not have
advisors and other elected officials around him who might have
been offering similar suggestions that Julius sand was offering. And
I just find it so unusual that some lone voice
in the wilderness was able to impact him in such
a profound way that he wasn't surrounded by other people
who might have influenced them in the same way.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I think, particularly in the beginning when he was still
a vice president and Garfield was dying, Arthur's wife had
died just the year before. He didn't really have any
quote that he didn't really have any close family other
than that, and he had his children, but that's not
really that was a different scenario. And then his friends
(09:45):
were all the people in the political machine. So in
this moment where the machines understrup scrutiny, they weren't really
people he could go to for this kind of support.
So he was kind of isolated at the time of
garfield assassination, and he was at this point where he
really needed somebody to reach out to him and be
(10:05):
an encouragement to him and point him in the right direction.
And just what Julius Ann was able to be and
as an administration kind of took off all of Garfield's
appointees didn't trust him and end up all resigning. So
the entire cabinet, over the course of a couple of months,
leaves office with the exception of one person, and so
(10:27):
he has to rebuild the cabinet basically from scratch. And
so in that time he's kind of a loss for
advisors and they lost for allies, and so Julius Ann's
voice kind of stands out because of that.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
That's just so intriguing. Now, how is this will reveal
my honest political ignorance with regard to Chester A or
Chester Arthur's presidency. How is he remembered at least in
terms of his presidency overall? Is he looked on with
favor or one of the more overlooked presidents? I mean,
how do you sort of I know it's a subjective measure,
(10:59):
but how do you rank in terms of his success
as president considering the level of corruption he was involved
with before he became president.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
That's a great question. So this is probably changing now
because of Death by Lightning and him being a major
character in that. But before the show, at least he
has been consistently ranked as the least known US president
of history. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
That just made you feel better. He made me feel better.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
But as far as people actually look at the achievements,
I mean the biggest thing being the Penalton Act, which
I would say, you know, they're presidents who have made
some negative choices on civil service reforms since him, But
I think it's pretty easy for all sides to be
able to look at Arthur's reforms say yeah, that was
(11:48):
a good direction he was taking this. So I think
that civil service reform, when you look at his record,
as the major key cornerstone of what he was able
to accomplish. And despite all the evidence, like if you
look at this, you know, if you're looking for someone
to vote for in a primary or general election, looked
at this person's past, all the question they've been involved in.
(12:09):
Plus not a good vice president either. He's not the
person you would say, yes, this is going to be
a good president. He's the guy at the back, right.
But he actually did end up being a good president.
And even people like Mark Twain were saying, and Mark
Twain not someone who was eager to just give, you know,
praise to politicians, acknowledge that hey, like, it would be
(12:29):
hard to do better than Arthur's presidency.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
How about that? Well, I've learned a lot and I
know it's going to it's a great companion piece for
those who've seen Death by Lightning or haven't seen it.
I'll encourage him to watch it. I just thought it
was a great story to tell. But also you get
a little insight into who Chester A. Arthur was, and
that'll segue perfectly into Destri Edwards film. Dear mister President,
the Letters of Julius Sand Should my listeners be inspired
(12:53):
by Julius Sand in the sense that yes, it's worth
it to take the time to write that letter and
offer your suggestions.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Absolutely, And I would say obviously things are different today
than they were in the eighteen eighties, so the methodology
might be different. It might not be a letter of
maybe it is, but I would say the big takeaway
there is people do have a voice. You are able
to impact your your political representatives around you, whether that's
(13:22):
the president, whether that's your senator, whether that's your mayor.
But be involved, be an encouragement. Don't just be there
to slam them like you can be honest, but you
know if you're you're going to listen to you If
you're going to encourage in the right direction, not just
beat up on them. As far as exactly. Yes, And
(13:43):
for people who are interested in seeing the film, it's
available now on YouTube, So all you have to do
is just look up, dear mister Presidents, The Letters of
Julia Sand or look up the organization Competitive Enterprise Institute,
and you know you will find it there for free
on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Competitive Enterpresidents. Who is CEI dot org? YouTube is a
place to find the movie, Dear mister President The Letters
of Julius saying, I'm gonna watch it today because again
fascinated by Death by Lightning, Destri Edwards filmmaker. I really
enjoyed talking with you today and thanks for filling in
the blanks on the obvious questions we all had after
watching Death Black Lightning. This is perfect timing.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Man really is well. Thank you so much being great
to talk with you.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
It's been a real pleasure having you on the show, sir.
Get on YouTube. Check it out, dear mister President, The
Letters of Julius sand take care of Destriy. It's been
a pleasure stick around. I heard media aviation expert Jay
right lift coming up. It's eight twenty right now fifty
five KRCD talk station fifty five krc
Karsed Talk Station. It's Friday Eve. Bottom of the Hour.
Jay Ratlip, I heart media aviation expert, join us every week. Today,
I'm really excited to welcome to the frety five Cars
Morning Show. Formerly with Freedom Works and Blaze Media, he's
been with the Competitive Enterprise Institute for why his name
Destri Edwards. He's the media production and studio manager with
a Competitive Enterprise Institute. As a passion for film and politics,
(00:23):
he tries to use storytelling as a way to bridge
the gap between people and policy. And he is here
to talk about an award winning documentary. And the timing
couldn't be better. Man, dear mister President, the Letters of
Julius Sand And while I don't know who Julius sand is,
you're going to explain that, Destri Welcome to the fifty
five carssee Morning Show. I said, the timing is great
because I literally just got done watching Death by Lightning
(00:45):
on Netflix. I loved that. Welcome. It's good to have
you on.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Hey, great to talk with you. Now.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Did did Death by Lightning? For my listeners who don't know?
It was about the president James Garfield and how he
ended up being president and then getting assassinated. It could
come across as a work of fiction. The story was
a really cool one, but it really happened. Did that
series inspire Dear Mister President The Letters of Julius sand
Or was this project a concept you were working on
(01:13):
or had already completed before that one came out.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, it's a good question. I mean, it's by the
timing of things that can look that way. But actually
I was probably two three months into pre production on
my documentary when Death by Lytton was announced, So there's
a pretty good chance they were in the works on
things behind the scenes before I was. As far as
official announcements, I was not aware of it when I started.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So I imagine your documentary or your film, Dear Mister President,
Letters of Julie Stan You're getting a lot of extra
love because people have to be intrigued by the twenty
first President Chester Arthur, who succeeded after the assassination of
President Garfield. He came across as a really, really corrupt
so and so Destri. Did they accurately and I will
(01:57):
move before we move over to your film, did they
accurately portray his level of corruption in Death by Lightning?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah? So it's interesting how they did that. So it
is true that he was a corrupt person coming up
into the vice presidency and he was not a supportive
vice president. I will say Death by Lightning did overplay
some things. For instance, very light Spoil was high, very light,
but he never had any of Garfield's cabinet members kidnapped.
(02:26):
He also never spoke ill of Garfield to the press.
He also didn't try to resign at that point either.
So there's a lot of things that overplays, but the
general concept is true. He definitely was He definitely had
a corrupt past with the spoil system coming into all
of this.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
And again Death by Lightning really revealed the New York
political machine for what it was, which was very very
powerful and Chester Arthur part of that, and one would
have expected him to sort of continue that level of corruption.
But as I believe you point out and dear mister President,
the Letter of Julie, it didn't turn out that way.
He actually turned out to be a bit of a reformer.
(03:04):
Playing into that Julia Sand who was Julius Sand and
how did she become so influential on how his presidency
turned out?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yes, So drawing back to death by lightening again, as
you have seen in the final episode of Garfield's wife,
Lucretia speaks to Arthur in that episode and he gives
like a quick speech encouraging him to step up and
reform himself. So that never happened in real life. He
(03:33):
never had that kind of conversation with the Christia Garfield.
But what the filmmakers did there is the actually drew
those words of the paraphrase from what Julius Sand had written.
So after Garfield was shot by Charles Gatteau, the country
was fearful about what was happening. Arthur was also fearful
because he had no intention of becoming president. He had
(03:54):
never wanted that. He felt fully unqualified to be the president.
And so a few weeks to Garfield being on his deathbed,
as everyone was fearing that he would pass away. As
of course, she eventually did. This woman Julius Sand, who
was just a normal constituent from New York City, she
started writing Arthur. She wrote Arthur and encouraged well. She
(04:16):
started out by telling him that, hey, people are bad
in grief, but do you realize it not so much
because he is dying, but because you were a successor.
And that's kind of I imagine a gut punch to
anybody reading that. But she went on also to encourage him,
telling him, Hey, I'm not asking to res up to
you to resign. I'm asking you to her reform and
be better, to be the president that this country needs
(04:38):
you to be. And she continued writing those letters. She
wrote twenty three letters to him over the next couple
of years, being a conscience to him, giving him admonishment
for things to do wrong or might be wrong, but
also give him encouragement that she believed he could rise
to the occasion.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Well, I find it fascinating, you know, my listeners and
I struggle regularly with you know, reaching out to our politician,
you know, to action. Call your congressman, call to action,
call your senator, send him an email, send him a letter.
No one believes that works. I'm just surprised that the
president of the United States. And granted the population was
much smaller, and I don't know how many people actually
wrote the president, but how is it that she was
(05:15):
able to get his attention and have such a profound
impact on him. Was it kind of a unique thing
for someone to reach out? What caused him to be
to gravitate and take what she had to say by
way of recommendation to heart.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
That's a good question. So even in her first letter,
she assumes that he's received other letters like this, and
maybe he did. We don't have any record of any
other letters he at least nothing else that he kept.
He kept all of her letters, but nothing from anyone else.
And as I was doing this story and talked with
several historians who have broad knowledge of the presidency, I
(05:53):
was asking them, Hey, do you know any other story
like this where a president was influenced in this way
by a normal constituent, And no historian to talk to
had any other example of this level. Like the closest
thing make a point to was a Lincoln growing a beard,
which looks cool, But that's a choice. This is a
(06:15):
unique situation in history that we're looking at here, but
there's no reason has to be unique. We can. I
think that's part of the lesson here is that we
assume that we have no influence on our elected leaders
that we actually do.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Now, did she have some unique political insight? Was she
connected in any way, because apparently she had a sufficient
knowledge of the corruption in how he should reform himself
and move away from that corrupt New York political machine
that he was part of. I mean, what was she
unique in some regard in terms of her knowledge? I
guess I'm just wondering how she was able to push
(06:49):
his button.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I mean, her family was decently well off, but they
had no political connections whatsoever. She would she herself was
actually fairly sickly and didn't get out of the house
an exceptional amount of time, and when she did, it
really took the energy out of her. She read the newspapers,
but she wasn't informed in some kind of way beyond that,
(07:13):
like some kind of inside source, So she didn't know
more than an average person could have.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
So what policies that Chester Arthur embraced and during his
period of reform moving away from his prior corruption. What
policies did he embrace that you can trace directly to
the recommendations of Julia.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Sand Yeah, So the biggest thing we can look at
is the Penelton Act that was referenced to the end
of death by lightning, which is kind of an interesting
arc for Arthur himself because that goes against his entire career.
At that point, he had been at the head of
the spoil system where people get government jobs not based
(07:53):
on their qualifications but based on political favors and who
they knew and who they had helped in the past,
regardless to whether or not they had qualification for their job.
And so the Penalan Act is what kind of started
the path away from that to make actual qualifications and
this wasn't about the political favors being paid out. I
(08:14):
don't know if he's necessarily so much throughout Julie Sand's
letters in Arthur's career that he did things specifically because
Julie Fan asked him to. More so, she was kind
of a conscience to him and was giving him support
to hey, this is what the people want, this is
what you are capable of doing. So there were things
(08:36):
like that tactic chief among them, as well as the
first Chinese Exclusion Act. The Second Chinese Exclusion Act is
a different matter that we discussed in the documentary, but
there are things like that as well as some different
corruption investigations where she would encourage him to, hey, make
sure your administration moves forward the right way on this.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I guess I'm kind of curious did he not have
advisors and other elected officials around him who might have
been offering similar suggestions that Julius sand was offering. And
I just find it so unusual that some lone voice
in the wilderness was able to impact him in such
a profound way that he wasn't surrounded by other people
who might have influenced them in the same way.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I think, particularly in the beginning when he was still
a vice president and Garfield was dying, Arthur's wife had
died just the year before. He didn't really have any
quote that he didn't really have any close family other
than that, and he had his children, but that's not
really that was a different scenario. And then his friends
(09:45):
were all the people in the political machine. So in
this moment where the machines understrup scrutiny, they weren't really
people he could go to for this kind of support.
So he was kind of isolated at the time of
garfield assassination, and he was at this point where he
really needed somebody to reach out to him and be
(10:05):
an encouragement to him and point him in the right direction.
And just what Julius Ann was able to be and
as an administration kind of took off all of Garfield's
appointees didn't trust him and end up all resigning. So
the entire cabinet, over the course of a couple of months,
leaves office with the exception of one person, and so
(10:27):
he has to rebuild the cabinet basically from scratch. And
so in that time he's kind of a loss for
advisors and they lost for allies, and so Julius Ann's
voice kind of stands out because of that.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
That's just so intriguing. Now, how is this will reveal
my honest political ignorance with regard to Chester A or
Chester Arthur's presidency. How is he remembered at least in
terms of his presidency overall? Is he looked on with
favor or one of the more overlooked presidents? I mean,
how do you sort of I know it's a subjective measure,
(10:59):
but how do you rank in terms of his success
as president considering the level of corruption he was involved
with before he became president.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
That's a great question. So this is probably changing now
because of Death by Lightning and him being a major
character in that. But before the show, at least he
has been consistently ranked as the least known US president
of history. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
That just made you feel better. He made me feel better.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
But as far as people actually look at the achievements,
I mean the biggest thing being the Penalton Act, which
I would say, you know, they're presidents who have made
some negative choices on civil service reforms since him, But
I think it's pretty easy for all sides to be
able to look at Arthur's reforms say yeah, that was
(11:48):
a good direction he was taking this. So I think
that civil service reform, when you look at his record,
as the major key cornerstone of what he was able
to accomplish. And despite all the evidence, like if you
look at this, you know, if you're looking for someone
to vote for in a primary or general election, looked
at this person's past, all the question they've been involved in.
(12:09):
Plus not a good vice president either. He's not the
person you would say, yes, this is going to be
a good president. He's the guy at the back, right.
But he actually did end up being a good president.
And even people like Mark Twain were saying, and Mark
Twain not someone who was eager to just give, you know,
praise to politicians, acknowledge that hey, like, it would be
(12:29):
hard to do better than Arthur's presidency.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
How about that? Well, I've learned a lot and I
know it's going to it's a great companion piece for
those who've seen Death by Lightning or haven't seen it.
I'll encourage him to watch it. I just thought it
was a great story to tell. But also you get
a little insight into who Chester A. Arthur was, and
that'll segue perfectly into Destri Edwards film. Dear mister President,
the Letters of Julius Sand Should my listeners be inspired
(12:53):
by Julius Sand in the sense that yes, it's worth
it to take the time to write that letter and
offer your suggestions.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Absolutely, And I would say obviously things are different today
than they were in the eighteen eighties, so the methodology
might be different. It might not be a letter of
maybe it is, but I would say the big takeaway
there is people do have a voice. You are able
to impact your your political representatives around you, whether that's
(13:22):
the president, whether that's your senator, whether that's your mayor.
But be involved, be an encouragement. Don't just be there
to slam them like you can be honest, but you
know if you're you're going to listen to you If
you're going to encourage in the right direction, not just
beat up on them. As far as exactly. Yes, And
(13:43):
for people who are interested in seeing the film, it's
available now on YouTube, So all you have to do
is just look up, dear mister Presidents, The Letters of
Julia Sand or look up the organization Competitive Enterprise Institute,
and you know you will find it there for free
on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Competitive Enterpresidents. Who is CEI dot org? YouTube is a
place to find the movie, Dear mister President The Letters
of Julius saying, I'm gonna watch it today because again
fascinated by Death by Lightning, Destri Edwards filmmaker. I really
enjoyed talking with you today and thanks for filling in
the blanks on the obvious questions we all had after
watching Death Black Lightning. This is perfect timing.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Man really is well. Thank you so much being great
to talk with you.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
It's been a real pleasure having you on the show, sir.
Get on YouTube. Check it out, dear mister President, The
Letters of Julius sand take care of Destriy. It's been
a pleasure stick around. I heard media aviation expert Jay
right lift coming up. It's eight twenty right now fifty
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