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Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yesterday, the cincinnt Fraternal Old Police Lodge sixty nine, unanimously
operative word in the sentence, voted no confidence in Mayor
Aftab pur All. Joining the fifty five Case Morning Show
and thank god for him the return of CINCINNTI FOP
president Ken kober Ken, welcome back to the show, my friend.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Hey, good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
At whose impetus was this vote brought up?

Speaker 5 (01:21):
Well, I mean, obviously by it being unanimous, you could
tell that the temperature in the room was was certainly
not in favor of the mayor.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
But we had a member that came forward, he said
his piece.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
And it was discussed and ended up being a unanimous vote.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Well, I sort of jokingly wrote down in my notes
on this how long was the jury out before it
reached the unanimous vote.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
I would say anywhere from five to ten seconds. It
was certainly it was made very very clear how they felt,
all right, and what prompted this obviously, well, maybe not
so obviously, I get to I get the feeling this
is sort of a long time coming.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
You had the July beatdown incident, of course, that might
have spurred this vote on no confidence along. But as
you wrote in your op ed piece in the Inquiry yesterday,
Cincinnati's crime crisis didn't start with the beatdown.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
It's been here for years.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
It's absolutely true, you know that that was just kind
of like the uh, the spark that really got the
fire going.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, the straw that broke the camel's back. Sure, absolutely well,
and one of the points you made, and it didn't
and nobody seemed to have missed this. Where was the
mayor anyway? His silence was definiting. I mean, his silence
relating to the the the Cincinnati police, the support for police.
They try to encourage communities to work with the police
and appreciate the police. That's been deafening for years though.

(02:43):
But he wasn't even around when the beatdown happened and
it made national news.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah, and that's.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
That's part of this is you know it was it
took three days from to get a statement out. Meanwhile,
you've got you know, people in the in the public
on what gonna say, what does he have to say
about this?

Speaker 4 (02:59):
And it was just then you know, of course, then
what happens.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Then now you have you know, citizens of the city
that are creating their own narrative, and it's just something
that has it's been a boiling point and it was
only a matter of time in my opinion, that something
like this was going to happen.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
No question about it. And I know, adding insult to
injury on that one is the ordering by the city solicitor,
the ordering of police to charge the victim in the
beatdown crime with disorderly conduct, which is a misdemeanor. I
know we've talked about that before, can Cover, and that
got you pretty angry. And have you ever determined by
what authority that the city solicitor has to order the

(03:36):
police department to do anything?

Speaker 5 (03:39):
Well, I mean the solicitor is an attorney. Yeah, I am,
it's a city attorney.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
You know.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
Unfortunately, when you look at this, all of these people
work for the mayor. So if they give an order,
you know, it's expected that you're going to follow it.
And unfortunately, that's what we saw on this point, is
an order was given and they followed it.

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Speaker 1 (06:08):
Fifty five KRCD talk station. Brian Thomas, FOP President cancover.
We're talking about the no confidence vote yesterday Mayor Aftab Parval.
The City of Cincinnati Police Department has no confidence in
you for a variety of reasons.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Uh, let us react.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
I'm gonna get your reaction to Mayor Aftab Provoll's statement
regarding no confidence vote. It reminds me, and here's my input,
of course, uh that it it's like the crime. If
Mayor Aftab Purvoll says crime is down and crime is
not a problem, then it must be true.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Right.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Uh, we all know that's not the case. But yesterday
he said, We've had the backs of law enforcement without
fail every step of the way. Since taking office. We've
increased police funding to address staffing challenges faced by cities
across the nation. We've supported requests for new lateral classes
and additional resources, and I have further funding in he says,

(07:00):
in the pipeline as we speak.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
So it sounds like problem solved.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Can your reaction because it seemed to me that at
Mayra have to have Provo only injected two million dollars
for additional lateral hires after the beatdown. And of course
we can't overlook Sarah Heringer's issues with get her husband
getting stabbed to death in their apartment. But the additional funding,
I think in terms of timing, showed up after the beatdown.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Yeah, we know that was actually a point of contention.
Is so.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
What happened funding a department by adding cops when you're.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Two hundred cops short.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
I mean, common sense would say, if we're two hundred
cops short, we should probably hire more.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
But what we didn't.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
See was after this mob attack, anybody, any city leader,
standing up and saying, listen, we trust that the police
are going to investigate this, that they're going to get
to the bottom of it and until then wait to
pass judgment.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
That's not what we saw.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
Instead, what we saw were accusations that the police are
not competent enough to investigate this, that you know, somehow
one of the victims begged for this beat down and
it was crickets. There was nothing about supporting the police
after that occurred.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Well, and you also had Iris Rowley, who's no fan
of the police department. She's on the AFTEB pro vall
staff making Lord knows how much. I think you opined
that maybe she's on some sort of six figure salary.
It doesn't matter if she's getting a dollar or ten
million from the city taxpayers. I wonder why she's there,
to what role she actually serves, and what influence she has,

(08:35):
because she is the antithesis of someone who works collaboratively
with and supports the backs of law enforcement.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, I mean that.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Another clear example, if put out two different videos body
camera Warren videos of her just harassing officers simply doing
their jobs. Nothing from city Hall other than we're aware
of this and we're going to look into it. And
nothing else has been said. And that's the problem, officers
see it. I had this conversation with some city leaders.

(09:06):
If you don't say something publicly, you know, your silence
is deafening.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Apparently you've decided to pick a side, and it's not.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
The side of law and order. And you said, eventually
cops get tired of it, and that's what we saw last.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Night at the meeting.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yes, indeed, now I someone to call it earlier I
think it was Westside Jim Keefer wondering if the sentinels
had also done a no confidence vote, and that's the
black police is is it an independent union? This is
what I wanted to get to the bottom of because
I figured, you're the Chapter sixty nine, you represent all
police officers, So wouldn't the sentinels be a subset of

(09:39):
the unanimous vote that occurred yesterday?

Speaker 5 (09:42):
Well, there were certainly Sentinel members in the room, okay
when the meeting occurred, but it was not Certainly it
was not an exclusively a Sentinel Police Association vote, But
there are sentinels that do come to our meetings.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Fair enough, and they voted. If the ones that did
show up showed up and voted in favor of the
of the no confidence vote for provall, I mean, it
will be nice if they also did it, because that
would sort of take this so called racial element out
of it.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Yeah, without a doubt, you know this, None of this
is about race.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
This is about law and order, Yeah, and those who
support law and order, And unfortunately we just believe that
that the mayor has fallen short of those things.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Indeed, how long do you think it's gonna turn ound.
I mean, assuming that the mayor was actually true to
his word, and let's say there was an unlimited pile
of cash to hire lateral hires realistically, Ken Kober, how
long will it take to replenish the diminished ranks on
the Sin Sint Police Department.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
I believe at this point it's gonna take years, you know,
or as short as we are.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
We have cops that are retiring every day. You know,
We're at the point where we have either really really young.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
Officers or we have really really experienced officers at the
end of their career and they take notice of what's
going on, and that's why we're seeing them leave. I mean,
We've we've got officers that because of previous military time
that they don't have to stay twenty five years to
get a full pension. We just had an officer just
this last week. I said, enough enough. He had been

(11:10):
here like twenty two years, so I have military time.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
I'm leaving.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I've heard that before in my own life, and I'm
not even a police officer. I've heard that kind of
comment coming from active dity police officers. You know, I'm done.
I'm not even going to go through the full drop program.
That's a really sad state of affairs, but it does
speak volumes to the reality as opposed to Aftab Purvol's
perception of it. Now, how does this work out in
terms of political campaigns? Of course we have an opportunity

(11:37):
to change the guard here in November. Of course you
have an opportunity to change the mayor, specifically Corey Bowman's
running for mayor. I presume Aftab Purvoal is not going
to get the endorsement of the FOP. Are you endorsing
formerly Corey Bowman is challenger?

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Well, we will have.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
Our endorsements out later this morning early afternoon for all
of the races for the City of CINCINNTI, Hamilton County
involving judges, City Council and the mayor will be out
this afternoon.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
I don't want to I don't want to misstep.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
That's okayafe to.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Say that, uh, mayor sure of All is not being
endorsed by definite.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, I think it's safe to assume that based on
you know, confidence felt yesterday. But I'll wait for the
I I'll wait and get the formal announcement later today
like everybody else. Uh So before we part come to
day FLP president can cover are Do you have any
I want to use the word optimism because this reality

(12:33):
has been going on. Democrats have literally run the city
of Cincinnati for more than forty years. Okay, and you know,
I mean that's a common prudent person, common sense prudent person. Wait,
look at the situation. Say you know what, my neighborhood's
not safe and it hasn't been safe for a long time.
I got gunfire going off all the time. Talk to
Sarah Herringer on the program last I think it was
last week. She said gunfire was so common and over
the rhine that they had become callous to the whole

(12:55):
idea of gunfire. It's like, well there's gunfire again. You know,
it's sort of the normal order of business. That is
not normal. So after all these years and after dealing
with these problems and crimes seemingly going up or at
least remaining as bad as it has been, a normal
person might say, you know what, maybe we need to
go a different direction politically this November. And there's a
lot of wonderful candidates, as I'm sure you know, do

(13:20):
you hold out any optimism that maybe maybe just maybe
the city's gonna wake up and go a different direction
in November.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well sure, I.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
Mean, you know, at this point, like you said, there
are only twenty four candidates running that have varying backgrounds,
some that have never been on city council, never been
in politics. And then there you know, there are some
of the older Guard Democrats that are coming back to run.
There's Charter Rights or some Republicans, so you know, there
could be a good mix of people on council depending

(13:51):
on what the voters of Cincinnati say. And like I said,
I will hold out some optimism until after November and
we'll see where we go from there.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
FOP President kN Cover, it's always great heavy on the program,
and I salute you and the other police officers for
this unanimous vote.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
I think it's appropriate.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
I think it'll bring greater attention to the crime problem
that is going on in the city of Cincinnati. So
it's a step in the right direction, a real positive one.
So thanks for doing that and spending some time with
my listeners of me this morning.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Ken.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
I'll look forward to having you back on the program
real soon.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yep, thanks for having me Brian. It's always a pleasure
my pleasure.

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