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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Happy Wednesday to you. Real quick listener to lunch. Going
to be a Matt Tree brewer today. Summit Park, Luash
location and without further adom really excited about talking with
Gary Benoy. He's the editor in chief of The New American,
which is a political affiliate of the John Birch Society,
and author of the book We're going to be speaking
about today Today Vanguard of Americans caused a close look
at the John Birch Society. He's been a member of
(00:20):
the JBS since joining as a teenager back in nineteen
sixty eight, been a member of its staff since seventy seven,
editor of The New American in nineteen eighty six, and
he's assumed his current position is editor in chief since
twenty twenty one. Over the years, he served as director
of the Birch Society's Research Department, editor of the John
Birch Society, Bolton, and the publisher of The New American.
Welcome to the fifty five Case Morning Show, Gary Benoy.
(00:42):
It's a real pleasure to have you on the program, Sir,
It's a.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Pleasure beyond Brian and thank you so much for inviting me.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh happy to and you know I was thinking about it.
John Birch Society has been the target of the slings
and arrows of outrage for years. You know, we people
call conspiracy theorists, and then we kind of call pattern observers,
and you hear these crazy ideas and these and these
conclusions about things, and you dismissed them as all, come on,
(01:09):
that's not going on. And then next thing, you know,
wait for a few years, and it turns out, well,
you know what, that conspiracy theorist ie pattern observer turns
out to be right. That's basically the John Bursa Society.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
And that's absolutely true. And of course there were people
who dismissed us many years ago because they did think
that what we're saying was crazy. And a perfect example
would be the John Birch Society's position to get us
out of the United Nations. And back in the nineteen
seventies we had a major billboard campaign to get us
out of the United Nations. I remember people, yes, and
(01:40):
people laughed at that, because, my goodness, isn't the United
Nations mankind's last us hope for peace. But what we
were saying at the time is no, that's not true,
that this is a world government trap and that an
organization large enough to bring about global peace could also
use the power to impose global tyranny. And over the
years people realized that that is the case, and more
(02:00):
and more people agree that we need to get out
of the United Nations. So that's just one example of
where people thought we were crazy but then learn all
over time that we were correct.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Well, you know, that's one of the benefits Gary and
I might observe Gary about the modern age. As critical
as I may be about the garbage that the Internet
is and all the downsides of it, at least we
have real time information about what is going on, like
how many people paid attention to UN votes outside of
the John Birch Society and those within the UN going
(02:28):
back to the sixties or seventies, Like, what are they doing?
I have no idea what you oh?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
There?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
It is the UN downtown New York. What are they doing?
We have no idea. Nobody paid attention to it. You know,
Walter Conkit wasn't selecting pieces for his thirty minute news
program about the evils or what's going on inside the
United Nations. Now we know we have crazy dictatorships and
countries put on like, for example, the Human Rights Council. Like,
(02:54):
wait a second, they throw gay people off of buildings,
and yet here they are as part of the UN
Human Rights Group. This does make any sense, I guess,
leading me to my question, Gary, why are we still
part of it? Is it really just one giant, concentrated
spy organization where people from the various like the CIA
(03:16):
and MI six or five and are just gathering information
about foreign nations. It seems convenient to just draw that conclusion,
considering that apparently nothing gets done there.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well, actually, I think behind the scenes, some things are
getting done, but they are things that are bad for
American independence and things that are bad for freedom. And
it's a step by step process. It's like putting a
frog into water and then you'd gradually turn up the
heat and before you know it, the frog is boiled.
And that is the same thing today. And a good
example of that strategy would be all the propaganda with
(03:49):
regard to climate change. Once upon a time that you
used to be called global warming, now they call it
climate change. I think that's easier to big out people
regarding climate change because the weather does changed from season
to season and whatnot. But that use is a pretext
to bring about a global green regime, which ostensibly is
(04:12):
a safe planet Earth, but in reality is intended to
enslave planet Earth's Earth, where a few people will control.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
The many global wealth, deep redistribution, that's what it happens, yeah, right,
taking away from the rich countries, force them to cut
their own throat in the name of removing plant food
from the environment. How preposterous is this, gary that we
have come to the point where plant food carbon dioxide
has been labeled a pollutant that we need to get
rid of.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I mean, it really isn't crazy, isn't it? Because any
school child, even the people in elementary school, should know
that CO two is the gas of life. And yet
this is now being portrayed by the would be totalitarians
and the people that are able to beguile looking at
CO two is a pollutant. So it is absolutely crazy.
(05:00):
But the good news is that more and more people
are waking up, more and more people realize that freedom
is under attacks. So the problem now is not so
much trying to point out to people that something is wrong.
That was a big problem back in the nineteen sixties
and nineteen seventies, and whatnot. But the problem today much
more so, is to show people that there is something
that can be done about it, and that the erosion
(05:22):
of our freedoms is not happenstance, that it has happened
because powerful people and high places are planning it that way.
And the purpose of the John Birch Society, which is
founder of the nineteen fifty eight by a man named
Robert Welch, the purpose is number one, to expose that conspiracy,
and the other purpose is to bring about less government,
(05:43):
more responsibility, and with God's help, a better world. And
the John Birch Society is not a political organization at
least not in the political sense. Obviously he does deal
with political activism or political issues. But our belief is
that if we create the awareness and we get people
organized and involved well, that that will be the sea
change that will make the difference, That that will effect
(06:06):
how people go into when they go into voting boots,
that that will cause people to hold the seat of
the politicians who take an oath to the Constitution to
the fire and ensure that they either support that boat
and how they vote, or that they themselves will get
voted out of office.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Look Estha Gary Binoyd. He is the author of a
book you need to get a hold of, and it's
a Lincoln on my blog page, sir, that people can
easily get a copy of Vanguard. The American has cost,
which talks about the John Vertus Society's history, what they've done,
what they've accomplished, the challenges they face, and of course
his history with them. Now, let us give us a
nefarious example of how this climate nonsense and plant food
that's killing the world. United Nations Agenda twenty thirty. When
(06:44):
I read the information about this, I think it's creeping
into the greater Cincinnati area. Our current mayor is interested
in what they call the connected communities, the sort of
one size fits all concentrated housing. Does this sound familiar
to you?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
What it sure does. It's actually of the seventeen development
goals for the United Nations, Sustainable development goals. Of course
they call it sustainable development, but what is really meant
by sustainable is that ostensibly the affluent lifestyle the American people,
the family home, having private transportation, being able to get
(07:22):
in your own car and drive the work and whatnot.
All these things are now considered unsustainable by the powers
that be and by the United Nations, And so they
don't want to say, well, they want to impromise us,
but that what they call it instead is sustainable development.
And what you were just talking about is a part
of that strategy. This whole idea of fifteen minute cities
(07:44):
and of regulations ostensibly to protect the environment, But what
an actuality is intended to control us, to control the
American people. And if that sounds crazy, I would say,
just look at what happened in twenty twenty with COVID,
where in the name of fighting COVID, what happened we
were told to stay in our homes unless we absolutely
have to go out. Well, we were told we could
(08:07):
not go to work. Businesses had to close. Of course,
large big box stores such as Walmart stayed open, but
mom and pop stores were told to close, and of
course even churches were shuttered. And who could have believe
before twenty twenty that something like that could have happened
in the United States of America. I look at that
(08:28):
as a trial balloon, is to what did thetalitarians want
to accomplish in the future, to make that permanent and
to control us completely, using as a pretext environment and
other issues.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, they certainly did trample on a right to free
exercise the religion and the right to assemble, which are
both guaranteed by our constitutions. Seems to me the First
Amendment just got chucked out the window in the name
of oh, I don't know, social distancing, which was a
made up consen as a concept as well. We did
learn a lot from that, and I don't know ask
kind of read tee lees, but I think we are
all much smarter and much more in tune to that
(09:05):
kind of nefarious element going on. I'm not quite sure
that they can necessarily get away with it like they
did last time, or am I being too optimistic.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I don't think they can to the same extent, But
I would say the biggest problem today is not, as
they said earlier, trying to convince people that something is wrong.
The big problem today is convincing people that something can
be done about it. And the way to do that
is number one, to recognize that if we are going
to save and restore our freedoms, we have to do
(09:34):
it ourselves. We cannot depend on somebody else to do it.
We cannot depend on a particular politician to do it.
We have to do it ourselves. And the way to
do that is to become informed, become organized, apply concerted action,
and work in communities all across the country to bring
about the great awakening, and again to insist that the
people who represent us in Washington and the people who
(09:56):
represent us in the state houses that they buy by
the constitution. Of course, the constitution itself shows that there
is still hope because we still have the Constitution. And
as long as we have it, as soon as people
get organized and insists that we abide by the Constitution,
I believe that will solve the problem. But it's going
to take a lot of hard work.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
It seems that part of the un and Jena is
also depopulation. And I know quite a few listeners always
bring this up regularly, and I mean, I guess it
doesn't work. China totalitarian regime where you have no rights.
They had the one child policy and they are really
struggling and suffering from it mightily. You look at any
country in the world where this sort of Western concept
(10:38):
of selfishness and refusal to bring new life into the
world in spite of how great it is to do so,
has really taken hold. So Western countries have been convinced
that having babies is bad. We're a bunch of cockroaches
killing the planet. It's too expensive to have children. Mom
and dad both need to work. I mean, that's been
kind of baked into the cake as well as this
religion of climate change.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Has it not absolutely I agree to completely Bryant. And actually,
if we could go back a few years, let's say,
go back to the nineteen fifties. And I was born
in nineteen fifty three, so I remember the last part
of the fifties. I remember the sixties. But back then
it was very common for a family and family size
is back then were bigger, but very common for a
(11:20):
family to have just one way journer, and typically that
was the dad. Typically he just worked one job. Oftentimes
he just had in high school education. And yet he
was able to support his family, again a family size
typically being much larger than today, and he was able
to experience he was able to live the American dream.
(11:41):
He was able to own his own home, he was
able to have a car in the drive right way,
and so forth. Yet look at where we are today.
Or in order to achieve these things, you have both
the husband and the wife working. Yet people deciding, well,
we cannot have children. We have to postpone that, or
we only can have one or two children because things
(12:01):
are so tough we can't afford it otherwise. And also
what can you accomplish today with a high school education
in terms of earning the kind of living where you
can live the American dream today? And of course many
young people growing up are watering, will I ever be
able to buy a home? Will I ever be able
to have as good a lifestyle as my parents have?
(12:23):
So that is the transition that has taken place in
this country over a couple generations. And in John BURGESSIY,
we believe that it is not happenstance that that has
been happening by design because of this conspiracy, and an
includes not just communists. I mean, it's easy to say
communist conspiracy, and there is such a thing, but it's
also a conspiracy of insiders. It's also the deep state.
(12:44):
It's also people who are not themselves members of the
Communist party, but they don't mind working with the Communists
because they believe in the same thing communist do. Let's
not forget that monopoly. Total monopoly would be total government.
You cannot have a bigger monopoly than that. And what
happened when government has total power? And say people in
big business, big medium, big government, and whatnot, they're working
(13:07):
together and they will work with communists in order to
consolidate more and more government leading to total government, and
more and more internationalism leading to world government. So that
is the danger, and the solution is to simply expose
that conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
And get a copy of the book Vanguard of the Americans,
cause a close look at the John Birch Society, the victories,
some of the challenges they faced over the years. Hey,
they were on the front lines of these accusations of
craziness and conspiracy theory. But as we find out, you
wait long enough, guess who was right. Apparently it was
a John Burst Society. Gary Benoy, thank you for sticking
(13:45):
it out for all those years and being on the
front lines of the regular attacks. I'm sure you've got
a lot of callous to show for it, but you're
a great example to hold out for others to rise
to the challenge themselves.
Happy Wednesday to you. Real quick listener to lunch. Going
to be a Matt Tree brewer today. Summit Park, Luash
location and without further adom really excited about talking with
Gary Benoy. He's the editor in chief of The New American,
which is a political affiliate of the John Birch Society,
and author of the book We're going to be speaking
about today Today Vanguard of Americans caused a close look
at the John Birch Society. He's been a member of
(00:20):
the JBS since joining as a teenager back in nineteen
sixty eight, been a member of its staff since seventy seven,
editor of The New American in nineteen eighty six, and
he's assumed his current position is editor in chief since
twenty twenty one. Over the years, he served as director
of the Birch Society's Research Department, editor of the John
Birch Society, Bolton, and the publisher of The New American.
Welcome to the fifty five Case Morning Show, Gary Benoy.
(00:42):
It's a real pleasure to have you on the program, Sir,
It's a.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Pleasure beyond Brian and thank you so much for inviting me.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh happy to and you know I was thinking about it.
John Birch Society has been the target of the slings
and arrows of outrage for years. You know, we people
call conspiracy theorists, and then we kind of call pattern observers,
and you hear these crazy ideas and these and these
conclusions about things, and you dismissed them as all, come on,
(01:09):
that's not going on. And then next thing, you know,
wait for a few years, and it turns out, well,
you know what, that conspiracy theorist ie pattern observer turns
out to be right. That's basically the John Bursa Society.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
And that's absolutely true. And of course there were people
who dismissed us many years ago because they did think
that what we're saying was crazy. And a perfect example
would be the John Birch Society's position to get us
out of the United Nations. And back in the nineteen
seventies we had a major billboard campaign to get us
out of the United Nations. I remember people, yes, and
(01:40):
people laughed at that, because, my goodness, isn't the United
Nations mankind's last us hope for peace. But what we
were saying at the time is no, that's not true,
that this is a world government trap and that an
organization large enough to bring about global peace could also
use the power to impose global tyranny. And over the
years people realized that that is the case, and more
(02:00):
and more people agree that we need to get out
of the United Nations. So that's just one example of
where people thought we were crazy but then learn all
over time that we were correct.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Well, you know, that's one of the benefits Gary and
I might observe Gary about the modern age. As critical
as I may be about the garbage that the Internet
is and all the downsides of it, at least we
have real time information about what is going on, like
how many people paid attention to UN votes outside of
the John Birch Society and those within the UN going
(02:28):
back to the sixties or seventies, Like, what are they doing?
I have no idea what you oh?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
There?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
It is the UN downtown New York. What are they doing?
We have no idea. Nobody paid attention to it. You know,
Walter Conkit wasn't selecting pieces for his thirty minute news
program about the evils or what's going on inside the
United Nations. Now we know we have crazy dictatorships and
countries put on like, for example, the Human Rights Council. Like,
(02:54):
wait a second, they throw gay people off of buildings,
and yet here they are as part of the UN
Human Rights Group. This does make any sense, I guess,
leading me to my question, Gary, why are we still
part of it? Is it really just one giant, concentrated
spy organization where people from the various like the CIA
(03:16):
and MI six or five and are just gathering information
about foreign nations. It seems convenient to just draw that conclusion,
considering that apparently nothing gets done there.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well, actually, I think behind the scenes, some things are
getting done, but they are things that are bad for
American independence and things that are bad for freedom. And
it's a step by step process. It's like putting a
frog into water and then you'd gradually turn up the
heat and before you know it, the frog is boiled.
And that is the same thing today. And a good
example of that strategy would be all the propaganda with
(03:49):
regard to climate change. Once upon a time that you
used to be called global warming, now they call it
climate change. I think that's easier to big out people
regarding climate change because the weather does changed from season
to season and whatnot. But that use is a pretext
to bring about a global green regime, which ostensibly is
(04:12):
a safe planet Earth, but in reality is intended to
enslave planet Earth's Earth, where a few people will control.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
The many global wealth, deep redistribution, that's what it happens, yeah, right,
taking away from the rich countries, force them to cut
their own throat in the name of removing plant food
from the environment. How preposterous is this, gary that we
have come to the point where plant food carbon dioxide
has been labeled a pollutant that we need to get
rid of.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I mean, it really isn't crazy, isn't it? Because any
school child, even the people in elementary school, should know
that CO two is the gas of life. And yet
this is now being portrayed by the would be totalitarians
and the people that are able to beguile looking at
CO two is a pollutant. So it is absolutely crazy.
(05:00):
But the good news is that more and more people
are waking up, more and more people realize that freedom
is under attacks. So the problem now is not so
much trying to point out to people that something is wrong.
That was a big problem back in the nineteen sixties
and nineteen seventies, and whatnot. But the problem today much
more so, is to show people that there is something
that can be done about it, and that the erosion
(05:22):
of our freedoms is not happenstance, that it has happened
because powerful people and high places are planning it that way.
And the purpose of the John Birch Society, which is
founder of the nineteen fifty eight by a man named
Robert Welch, the purpose is number one, to expose that conspiracy,
and the other purpose is to bring about less government,
(05:43):
more responsibility, and with God's help, a better world. And
the John Birch Society is not a political organization at
least not in the political sense. Obviously he does deal
with political activism or political issues. But our belief is
that if we create the awareness and we get people
organized and involved well, that that will be the sea
change that will make the difference, That that will effect
(06:06):
how people go into when they go into voting boots,
that that will cause people to hold the seat of
the politicians who take an oath to the Constitution to
the fire and ensure that they either support that boat
and how they vote, or that they themselves will get
voted out of office.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Look Estha Gary Binoyd. He is the author of a
book you need to get a hold of, and it's
a Lincoln on my blog page, sir, that people can
easily get a copy of Vanguard. The American has cost,
which talks about the John Vertus Society's history, what they've done,
what they've accomplished, the challenges they face, and of course
his history with them. Now, let us give us a
nefarious example of how this climate nonsense and plant food
that's killing the world. United Nations Agenda twenty thirty. When
(06:44):
I read the information about this, I think it's creeping
into the greater Cincinnati area. Our current mayor is interested
in what they call the connected communities, the sort of
one size fits all concentrated housing. Does this sound familiar
to you?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
What it sure does. It's actually of the seventeen development
goals for the United Nations, Sustainable development goals. Of course
they call it sustainable development, but what is really meant
by sustainable is that ostensibly the affluent lifestyle the American people,
the family home, having private transportation, being able to get
(07:22):
in your own car and drive the work and whatnot.
All these things are now considered unsustainable by the powers
that be and by the United Nations, And so they
don't want to say, well, they want to impromise us,
but that what they call it instead is sustainable development.
And what you were just talking about is a part
of that strategy. This whole idea of fifteen minute cities
(07:44):
and of regulations ostensibly to protect the environment, But what
an actuality is intended to control us, to control the
American people. And if that sounds crazy, I would say,
just look at what happened in twenty twenty with COVID,
where in the name of fighting COVID, what happened we
were told to stay in our homes unless we absolutely
have to go out. Well, we were told we could
(08:07):
not go to work. Businesses had to close. Of course,
large big box stores such as Walmart stayed open, but
mom and pop stores were told to close, and of
course even churches were shuttered. And who could have believe
before twenty twenty that something like that could have happened
in the United States of America. I look at that
(08:28):
as a trial balloon, is to what did thetalitarians want
to accomplish in the future, to make that permanent and
to control us completely, using as a pretext environment and
other issues.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, they certainly did trample on a right to free
exercise the religion and the right to assemble, which are
both guaranteed by our constitutions. Seems to me the First
Amendment just got chucked out the window in the name
of oh, I don't know, social distancing, which was a
made up consen as a concept as well. We did
learn a lot from that, and I don't know ask
kind of read tee lees, but I think we are
all much smarter and much more in tune to that
(09:05):
kind of nefarious element going on. I'm not quite sure
that they can necessarily get away with it like they
did last time, or am I being too optimistic.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I don't think they can to the same extent, But
I would say the biggest problem today is not, as
they said earlier, trying to convince people that something is wrong.
The big problem today is convincing people that something can
be done about it. And the way to do that
is number one, to recognize that if we are going
to save and restore our freedoms, we have to do
(09:34):
it ourselves. We cannot depend on somebody else to do it.
We cannot depend on a particular politician to do it.
We have to do it ourselves. And the way to
do that is to become informed, become organized, apply concerted action,
and work in communities all across the country to bring
about the great awakening, and again to insist that the
people who represent us in Washington and the people who
(09:56):
represent us in the state houses that they buy by
the constitution. Of course, the constitution itself shows that there
is still hope because we still have the Constitution. And
as long as we have it, as soon as people
get organized and insists that we abide by the Constitution,
I believe that will solve the problem. But it's going
to take a lot of hard work.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
It seems that part of the un and Jena is
also depopulation. And I know quite a few listeners always
bring this up regularly, and I mean, I guess it
doesn't work. China totalitarian regime where you have no rights.
They had the one child policy and they are really
struggling and suffering from it mightily. You look at any
country in the world where this sort of Western concept
(10:38):
of selfishness and refusal to bring new life into the
world in spite of how great it is to do so,
has really taken hold. So Western countries have been convinced
that having babies is bad. We're a bunch of cockroaches
killing the planet. It's too expensive to have children. Mom
and dad both need to work. I mean, that's been
kind of baked into the cake as well as this
religion of climate change.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Has it not absolutely I agree to completely Bryant. And actually,
if we could go back a few years, let's say,
go back to the nineteen fifties. And I was born
in nineteen fifty three, so I remember the last part
of the fifties. I remember the sixties. But back then
it was very common for a family and family size
is back then were bigger, but very common for a
(11:20):
family to have just one way journer, and typically that
was the dad. Typically he just worked one job. Oftentimes
he just had in high school education. And yet he
was able to support his family, again a family size
typically being much larger than today, and he was able
to experience he was able to live the American dream.
(11:41):
He was able to own his own home, he was
able to have a car in the drive right way,
and so forth. Yet look at where we are today.
Or in order to achieve these things, you have both
the husband and the wife working. Yet people deciding, well,
we cannot have children. We have to postpone that, or
we only can have one or two children because things
(12:01):
are so tough we can't afford it otherwise. And also
what can you accomplish today with a high school education
in terms of earning the kind of living where you
can live the American dream today? And of course many
young people growing up are watering, will I ever be
able to buy a home? Will I ever be able
to have as good a lifestyle as my parents have?
(12:23):
So that is the transition that has taken place in
this country over a couple generations. And in John BURGESSIY,
we believe that it is not happenstance that that has
been happening by design because of this conspiracy, and an
includes not just communists. I mean, it's easy to say
communist conspiracy, and there is such a thing, but it's
also a conspiracy of insiders. It's also the deep state.
(12:44):
It's also people who are not themselves members of the
Communist party, but they don't mind working with the Communists
because they believe in the same thing communist do. Let's
not forget that monopoly. Total monopoly would be total government.
You cannot have a bigger monopoly than that. And what
happened when government has total power? And say people in
big business, big medium, big government, and whatnot, they're working
(13:07):
together and they will work with communists in order to
consolidate more and more government leading to total government, and
more and more internationalism leading to world government. So that
is the danger, and the solution is to simply expose
that conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
And get a copy of the book Vanguard of the Americans,
cause a close look at the John Birch Society, the victories,
some of the challenges they faced over the years. Hey,
they were on the front lines of these accusations of
craziness and conspiracy theory. But as we find out, you
wait long enough, guess who was right. Apparently it was
a John Burst Society. Gary Benoy, thank you for sticking
(13:45):
it out for all those years and being on the
front lines of the regular attacks. I'm sure you've got
a lot of callous to show for it, but you're
a great example to hold out for others to rise
to the challenge themselves.
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