Gary Jeff in for Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is a Wednesday, August twenty eight, twenty twenty five,
also the anniversary dates of The Burden of the Now.
Late well for several years, but still great. Isaac Lee
Hayes Junior born in Covington, not Kentucky, Tennessee, and passed

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back in two thousand and eight, just ten days shy
of what would have been his sixty sixth birthday. An
incredible talent singer, songwriter, composer, and actor. One of the
creative forces behind the Southern soul music label Stax Records
in the nineteen sixties. Stax a wax Man laid down

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the soul like nobody else, and this, of course the
theme music that he composed for the movie he started.
They say that that man Isaac Hayes is a bad
shut o mouth talking about Shah David. Good morning. It's

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five oh six, Gary Jeffin for Brian Thomas. Let this
play for a moment. We will look ahead and look back.
Significant events and people tied to this particular data in
history included not limited in these. It was eighteen fifty

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eight Charles Darwin's Theory of Evolution, first published eighteen sixty two.
The New York Tribune published an open letter by the
editor Horace Greeley calling on President Lincoln to take more
aggressive measures to free enslave people. We think the Civil
War was aggressive enough, and the declaration of the official

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Declaration of the Civil War. What happened four years later
on this date when then President Andrew Johnson declared it
so eighteen sixty six, let's see a series of wildfires.
You think wildfires have gotten increasingly bad, and there's more
and more extreme weather than there ever has been, and

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that's causing the wildfires. And that extreme weather is being
caused by our use of fossil fuels and the induction
of CO two in the atmosphere. How about nineteen ten,
where there are a lot of SUVs on the road.
We certainly were at the infant stages of the twentieth

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centuries boom in industry at that point. Nineteen ten, on
this date, a series of wildfires swept through parts of Idaho, Montana, Washington,
killing at least eighty five burning down some three million acres.
It's a natural part. It's a natural cycle of what
happens in many places in this country and elsewhere. The

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American Professional Football Conference, established by four professional Football teams.
It would be renamed the National Football League two years later.
The year was nineteen twenty. On this date, the NFL
got its first origins. More on the NFL and the

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ridiculous woke nonsense that is going on again this year
as we get ready for the regular season. Exiled communist
revolutionary Leon Trotsky attacked in Mexico by an assassin. He

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would die the next day. The year was nineteen forty
on this date. In nineteen sixty four, LBJ signed into
the Economic Opportunity Act, a one billion dollar anti poverty measure,
another successful socialist government program, sponsored and put across the

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finish line by Democrats. As the world's attention focused to
peace in Ukraine this past week, a stark reminder of
the predecessor of modern day Russia, the USSR and the

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other war saw pack nations and what they are capable
of at any time. Invasions aren't new to them. It
was August twentieth, nineteen sixty eight, when the Soviets and
their buddies invaded Czechoslovakia across the Prague Spring liberalization movement.
We will see where this latest peace movement goes. Now

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that Europe Western Europe is on board. Putin says he
he's ready to talk, and Zelensky looks like he may
make some minor concessions with security as assurances. All of
this still up in the air. Well. You know you've

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heard of going postal. It actually happened on this date.
In nineteen eighty six, a guy named Patrick Henry ryl
why don't even give his name, went on a deadly
rampage at a post office in Edmund, Oklahoma, shooting fourteen
fellow workers to death before turning the gun on himself.

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Do you remember in nineteen eighty nine, perhaps fifty one
died when a pleasure boat sank in the Thames River
in London after being struck by a dredger. I do
kind of recall that. And let's see here, also on
the history list, Tropical Storm Hillary struck Baja California. Never

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trust anyone named Hillary. The death toll small and fifteen
million dollars in damage is minuscule compared to a lot
of other storms. But it was two years ago today
that then happened. Don King, believe it or not, is
still kicking. I don't know if the hair is still there.
He's ninety four former US rep Ron Paul Rand's daddy

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is ninety today. Connie Chung, who swang American on television,
the formerly employed journalist, is seventy nine today. Robert Plant
of led Zeppelin turned seventy seven. More from Robert Plant
later on. Rudy Gatlin of The Gatlin Brothers is seventy three.

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John Heyd, a fantastic singer songwriter, also enjoying his seventy
third birthday. Al Roker is seventy one. Trist Joan Allen
sixty nine. Let's see Rapper KRS one from Boogie Down Productions,
one of Jove Strecker's favorites, turned sixty today. Billy cardell

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Or Gardelle is fifty six. Fred Durst of Limp Biscuit
I alos thought that was an odd name for a
band fifty five. Baseball Hall of Famer Todd Helton is
fifty two, Amy Adams fifty one, Andrew Garfield the actor

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is forty two, and Demi Levado actors singer songwriter, turns
thirty three today. If it is your birthday, I hope
it is the best birthday you could possibly imagine and
you get to spend it with the people that you
love doing the things you love to do, and that
is truly my wish for you. Phone lines are always

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available five one, three, seven, four nine fifty five hundred.
If you're waking up with me, I'd love to hear
from you. If you just like to sit back and
relax and chill and be quiet and enjoy the coffee.
You know, as a matter of fact, let's have just
a moment of quiet time, not a moment of silence

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in reverence for anything, but just to sit back and
collect our thoughts. It's a shame we don't have any
white noise. We can player some ocean sounds Joe to
help us relax, but he made relax. It's time to
get up and going almost five fourteen. Will take a
break and come back. Man. The big stories today that

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producer Joe Streckerd has left me with breaking away from
national stories have to do with the Museum Center and
the Cincinnati Police Museum, which has now been rejected to
join the Museum Center as part of as part of
their family, because apparently the Cincinnati Museum Center thinks the

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representation of law enforcement and police and what they do
to keep us safe every day and those who have
given their lives in that effort doesn't quite fit in,
doesn't quite mesh with their mission trying to figure out
exactly what their mission is. But anyway, we'll get into

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that and so much more. I said we'd get into
the NFL since this is kind of the anniversary date
the origins of the National Football League, this August twentieth,
going back to nineteen twenty, now one hundred and five
years Originally, they are once again going to feature end

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zone messages about so called social justice items in games
once the regular season kick in. I've got some suggestions
of my own that, of course they'll never include. You
might have your own suggestions for end zone messages at

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NFL games. As we continue on fifty five KRCV talk station,
our Iheartram As you're getting up and going this morning,
mostly cloudy skies, still very muggy, and the humidity is
going to remain with us the rest of the week.
E would know. The temperatures are backed off a little
bit by this afternoon. You'll see blue skies and a

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high of eighty two. Mostly cloudy, humid, but not hot.
On Thursday eighty three and Friday, the sunshine returns to us.
The humidity remains the break in that just that swamp
like temperature feel is going to occur or should occur.
According to the Jennifer catch Mark who is she and

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it's it's going to go back by Saturday and Sunday
mid to upper seventies for highs next week. So enjoy.
We're right there at seventy two now at fifty five
KRC the talk station. So i'd really like your thoughts

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on I just saw this story earlier this week or
last week, and maybe the tail end of last week
when the NFL made the announcement on the beginning of
the twenty twenty five season, which is right around the corner,
that they would be once again this year featuring slogans
social justice slogans as end zone messages, And of course

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they've got the players sporting special messages, but the ones
that they have to choose from, and all thirty two
teams will have to by decree of the National Football
League will have to feature one of these slogans in

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their end zone this year. In racism, we've seen that
one before. Stop hate, I love, Stop hate at the
end zone of a sport. It's one of the most
violent in the history of mankind outside of what went

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on in the coliseum, Choose love and inspire change. Inspire
change has been added to replace what was a vote
last year that was featured in the end zones of
what do you think that vote will be back again
in twenty six and twenty eight? I'm just and then

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it takes all of us at the other end of
the end zone. Now these are all arguably there's nothing
wrong with any of these social justice sayings. I thought
racism was over, though, when Morgan Freeman famously say a

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few years back in an interview, he said, if you
want to end racism, just quit talking about it all
the time. Stop hate. Nobody can Nobody can argue against
the fact that we should really get a grip on
our humanity and and love our brother as ourselves and

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stop hate or choose love the other side of that coin,
I guess, or inspire change. They're kind of shaky on
what kind of change they're asking their fans to inspire.
And it takes all of us, will it certainly does.
I have some suggestions for the NFL that probably will

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never make it in for some unifying messages. Is there
anything more unifying than having every life matters in the
end zone. We can't all agree on that every life matters.

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I'd like to see that if they're going to have
these slogans and require every NFL team to choose one
of these, how about stop child mutilation. I think that's
something we can all get behind and agree on, except
the people who want to mutilate children under some false

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narrative that there are fifty seven genders and you can
switch at any point, especially if you're a kid. How
about choose life. Oh wait a minute, well that means
that means you're not pro choice. Choosing life actually is

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a choice. Other possible NFL in Zone slogans. Instead of
inspire change, how about inspire patriotism. The NFL's fans are
all American. I mean, they've got fans all over the world,
don't get me wrong, but it's in all American sport.

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Come on, did you hear the cheers for President Trump
at the Super Bowl? Inspire patriotism instead of inspire change.
Live in the greatest country in the world. Why we
got a change? How about in this latest round of
Trump diplomacy that seems to be paying great dividends, not

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just in Ukraine but all over the globe in many
different conflicted areas India, Pakistan, Armenia at Aberzizan. Boy mangled that.
But you know, pick your place around the world where
there have been long protracted fights and conflicts, and Trump

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is buzz sawing his way to peace through all of
these so far, peace through strength at the end of
the end zone. Now this might be a little bit
dicey as far as providing a unifying message, but for
all American citizens, or a majority of American citizens, I'd

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like to see deport them all in an end zone
message at the NFL games. How about fight communism. Oh, well,
that's not inclusive. You can't do that. I don't think
the NFL is gonna go my way on this, probably,

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But how about just something simple, something simple that everybody
who watches football, who has played football or any other
kind of sport, how about rub some dirt on it.
It's five twenty five at fifty five krs the talk station,
and we're continuing five to one, three seven, nine, fifty

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five hundred. I don't know if you give any more
suggestions for the NFL as we head into the newest season.
Here In just a couple of weeks the twenty twenty
five season. But if you didn't hear, the NFL is
going back to their end zone messages to promote social justice.

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All thirty two teams have to put something in the
end zone and the NFL has a selected list, and
I I mean end racism. We'd we'd like to think
that everyone can get along regardless of where they come from. Okay,

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but they're not going to put choose life in the
NFL in zones, which is basically ending and fantaside or
peace through strength or drill Baby drill. For example, Tom, Tom,
good morning, how are you Hey?

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Good morning Jeff.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
In the spirit of filling in, thank you Sean, and
welcome back Joe.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
For the regular.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Listeners, know that Joe had the last couple of days off,
but he's back and ready to roll.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
I guess, hey, you know what you know? I asked him.
I asked because the last time I filled in for
Brian Tom, Joe was detailing how we'd been having a
hard time sleeping. And the first thing I asked him
this morning when I came in, is well, are you
sleeping any better? He said, well, it helps when you
have two days off, so it was a much needed
respite and he is up and raring and ready to

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go rocking and rolling.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, you're if you're paying attention to the news, which
most of us do. Uh, it's amazing who these uh,
who these Democrats are are defending and sticking up for
and speaking out on behalf of You have this crazy
mayor in Boston who is just hell bet on making

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sure that that illegal aliens especially are are allowed to
be in this country. And and don't you dare come
to this city and and try to do anything about it.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah, Michelle, Michelle Wu was hosting a mariachi band outside
of city Hall in some virtue signaling stunt. You know,
she talks about stunts all the time. She talks about transparency,
and you have to wonder when her administration and her
state of Massachusetts, in coordination with the Governor of Massachusetts

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are denying Ice admission to people who are felons are
in arrest and and they're helping these felons, these criminal
illegal felons evade capture by Immigration's customers enforcement.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Right.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Yeah, that's the that's those are democrats.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Doing this apparently same thing going on Washington State, Philadelphia, Chicago,
all these bastions of Democrat rule that are that are
clearly such shining examples of how we ought to do things.
I mean, why would you not want your city to
be like Chicago? Uh man, it's it's it's crazy up there.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
But all this to say that that I think the
best slogan you could put on the back of the
end zone would be, don't vote Democrat.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Have a great day.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
I love it? Uh Jay, Hello, how are you, sir?

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (20:58):
I'm doing pretty good.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Hey.

Speaker 6 (20:59):
I think a slogan in the back of the end
zone that's worthy of recent news. You know, I heard
that Trump was talking to the Fox News and talking
about the reason we're trying to end he's trying to
end the war in Ukraine is he'd likes to do
more to earn his way into heaven, which my Bible says,

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you can't earn it.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
It's a gift.

Speaker 6 (21:22):
It's a free gift given by our savior, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
All you have to do is accept it.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
So I would like to put Jesus paid at all.
But number two, I like Tom's idea second vote for
don't vote Democrat. Maybe Jesus saves in one, Jesus paid
it all. And then the other one is don't vote Democrat,
Jesus votes for for.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
You know, Jesus saves. Jesus saves would be excellent Jay,
And I'm I'm on board with that. And you know,
for you.

Speaker 6 (21:51):
Is the best social justice isn't isn't he history's best
social justice warriors?

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Absolutely and arguably And along those lines two, you know,
for years at NFL games there was a gentleman who
would always find a television camera holding up a huge
John three sixteen sign. Yes I remember that, and maybe
just put John three sixteen at one end of the

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end zone and Jesus saves at the other. How about that?

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Well?

Speaker 1 (22:23):
I like that.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
And for all the conservatives, and I'm sure there's a
lot of them listening, the real question I have is
why are you continuing to watch the NFL whenever they
keep trying to shove this down your throat, But year
after year the ratings continue to go up, which means
conservatives continue to watch, continue to support, we continue to
pay for the stadiums at the NFL level, We're paying

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for the stadiums at the college level. And take a
look at your property tax bill, and seventy percent of
that goes to the schools. And go take a look
at your local high school and look at the athletic
take a look at the millions dollar football fields and
now look like college university football fields. How much is
our football tax when we add it all up, is

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what I'd like to know. How much is the average
American paying for just football tax? Because it sure as
hell's not going into the baseball diamonds or the soccer
fields or all the rest of it. And ask, you know, listeners,
ask yourself, why do you will continuing to watch this
woke NFL trash? If you don't like it, turn it
off and whatever you do. Hot tip to Tom, don't

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vote Democrat.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Have a nice day, all right? Thank you. Obviously two
very proud Republicans there, Tom and Jay. And there ain't
nothing wrong with that. I wanted to mention. Later on
this morning, we'll be talking to Representative Thomas Massey. I
know he was on the program recently and maybe last
week or the week before, but he is back because

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he is talking about the introduction of an Epstein Act
in the House that he is behind and authoring for
the full release of the Epstein files and we'll have
a discussion with Thomas about that and more, probably a

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little after eight o'clock this morning. Right now, it's five
thirty five, just getting the eyes open. The coffee is
starting to work, and we'll be returning to you and
justin well, actually we're not going anywhere, so don't you either.
Fifty five KRCV talk Station two bom bom bump bo

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bo bo bo free boom boom boom boom free. So
Joe Strecker is back in the producer's chair this morning.
And the great thing, well of many great things about Joe.
He's a fantastic father. He has been a good friend
through the years, and he's an excellent producer. But he

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provides myself and Brian with show prep material because we
can't do it all over. It takes all of us.
Just like in the end zone of an NFL game,
right supplied me with some information from something I'd never
seen before, and I hate to acknowledge my ignorance on

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this particular Facebook side. I guess a signal ninety nine
and there are several posts that we will get into
this morning from signal ninety nine in case you had
not seen them yourselves. But this is about the Cincinnati
Museum Center rejecting the Greater Cincinnati Police Museum's request to

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be a part of the Museum Center complex, a Union
terminal or Freedom Center. And this was somebody's already always
supported the Museum Center talking on signal ninety nine, and
it's addressed to Jill Berkermeyer, who's the director of the

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Museum Center, who came out with a statement saying, no,
the Police Museum is not welcome here. It doesn't fit
in with what we do. We've always supported the Museum Center,
renewed memberships every year, and contributed financially to your organization.
Those days are over. Now. You reference the Holocaust. Holocaust

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and the Freedom exhibits very graphic, very numbling pieces that
leave you in tears after viewing them. The ruthless and
savage treatments of Jews and of black people, along with
the horrific tools and methods which were used to punish
and torture human beings on full display again. The emotions
that I and many others felt were those of heartbreak

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and disbelief that monsters really do exist. It made me
want to be a better human, a better Christian a
better mom. Then I received several copies of your response
to the Police Museum. Essentially, you're saying that the museum
Center is now a social justice platform and that your
visitors might become triggered by all things pro law enforcement,

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and that is basically what the Museum Center said in
their original statement. So allow me to recap. Imagery of
torture and death the Jews and black people are totally acceptable,
but honoring police officers is not as you wish. Please
enjoy the mass exodus of members who do not wish

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to patronize a woke, non inclusive environment that has obviously
been influenced by political ideology. And the comments from the
museum Center again were, if you didn't hear them, that
the imagery of guns used by law enforcement to preserve

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and protect the population didn't fit in a museum space
that also included a Holocaust Museum and the Freedom Center.
But the writer there, as you noted, if you didn't
not off while I was reading that, said that you

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know the museum centers, Freedom Center and the Holocaust Museum
are full of images there could be very triggering for people.
If you're going to use that as your reason to
not include the Greater Cincinnati Police Museum. So now once again,

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the people who run the Greater Cincinnati Police Museum are
trying desperately to find a new home after the Museum
Center rejected its latest attempt to move in. Now, two things,
whatever the reason, it is the Museum Center. And while

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it is not directly taxpayers supported anymore, it was for
a few years there was a special tax that went
to helping them out. But they are their own entity,
and they can choose what to include and what not

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to include as far as exhibits go. And some people
may not be happy with me saying that, but I'm
just saying it. That's how I feel about it. On
the other hand, they are making a choice to alienate
the people who keep that place standing, in other words,
the law enforcement officers who helped serve and protect Cincinnati

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and the areas around the Museum Center and the areas
around the Freedom Center. Without which those places, who knows
what would happen to them. And as far as being inclusive,
it doesn't sound inclusive at all. If you're gonna celebrate

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mass murderers, slave owners, and criminals and you're gonna highlight
those but you're not gonna highlight the good guys, the
people who again serve and protect the population at great
peril to themselves, by the way, and run toward the

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bullets while other people are running away. But the Greater
Cincinnati Police Museum is looking for a home. I'm sure
they'll find when they've got about a year before the
lease is up where they currently reside. I've never been,

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but now this may actually inspire me to go and
visit while I still can. Because the ladies and gentlemen,
the men and women involved in our first responders, be
they police, fire EMTs, our top notch and without them

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we'd all be in great trouble needs to be remembered.
We'll take a break and come back. Gary Jeff in
for Brian this morning on fifty five KRC. The talk
station is all right about nine minutes away from the
top of the hour on this Wednesday morning. How are you, GJ. Dubbs,

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as someone once called me, in for Brian this morning.
He took the day off. So what happened on Monday,
Let's go back to last Friday. What happened last Friday
in Anchorage, Alaska at our military base was stunning in

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a good way, a stunning example of diplomacy at the
highest levels of state by our President Donald Trump and
the Russian dictator Vladimir Putin. And all I heard from
most of mainstream news the next day was and mostly

(32:30):
ABC even local news outlets. Trump rolls out the red
carpet for Putin, and once again only half the story,
because when it comes to President Trump, you only get
a negative angle to the stories no matter what the

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story is. And they were doing it again expected legacy
meet mainstream media, the perpetual Trump haters went. In fact,
that show of force with the B two and the

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F thirty five's buzzing Vladimir Putin's head as they walked
across the tarmac, and Trump's power move just in general
in that meeting enough to get a dictator's attention. Remember
in Trump's first term when he went to North Korea

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and crossed the DMZ to meet with Kim Jong un
and the little rocketman saber rattling suddenly kind of went away.
Remember that, And that was hailed by the mainstream legacy

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media as capitulation to a dictor, to a despot. How
dare Trump go there? Well, if you don't go there,
you never know if you can move the needle. And Friday,
apparently the needle moved a little bit because after the
meeting with Putin and Trump's power play, within seventy two

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hours he had the leader, the leaders of seven European nations,
and Vlodomar Zelenski, the President of Ukraine, in the White House.
Do you realize how unprecedented that is? Were you in
awe as much as I was? The President? Trump is

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holding court with our western European allies and the president
of Ukraine just three days after meeting with Vladimir Putin,
and they're talking about an upcoming by lad meeting between
Putin and Zelenski, the first of its kind since the
war began, and a tri letteral meeting after that to

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try and iron out some kind of lasting peace and
security agreements. Who knows if it goes there, but you
never know until you try. And I've never seen a
president try to broke her peace the way Trump, not

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in a long time. I mean, remember Fdr met with
Stalin to end World War two, or to help in
World War two, because that's what it took. But watching
that on Monday and Trump calling the president of France

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by his first name, Emmanuel, and Macrone dutifully acknowledging the press.
Then it said, yes, mister President, what's the best ever?
It was great. There's more to come, and we hope
it yields the benefits that we're told they're striving for,

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which would be peace and an end to the killing
and perhaps a pause to the threat to the West
that Vladimir Putin still still pledges and is possible of.
I think he went home back to Moscow with this

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tale between his legs. To be honest with you, It's
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I'm Gary Jeff Walker in for Brian Thomas here on
fifty five KRC dech Hawk Station. Today, August twentieth is
the seventy seventh birthday of one Robert Plans, the lead
singer of Led Zeppelin and Moore. An incredible voice. I

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particularly liked some of his solo work after Zeppelin Zenyata,
What was it that Can't Know? It was the Big Log,
which was the name of the single in the eighties Joe.
You can find a Big Log if you look look

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through the files for a Big Log by Robert Plant.
Also does incredible work with duets. Did an incredible album
with Alison House, just phenomenal. They're both great vocalist anyway, So,
as you know, yesterday an eighth person charged in connection

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with the brawl July twenty sixth near the intersection of
Fourth and Elm in downtown Cincinnati after night one of
the Cincinnati Music Festival. He's a forty five year old man.
He was issued a notice to appear before the Hamilton
County Municipal Court when charged yesterday. This is according to

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a release sent out by Cincinnati Police. They are not
releasing the man's name. He has also been identified as
a victim in this incident. This is under Marcy's law
that he requested because he's a crime victim, to have

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their name withheld from poblic release. But apparently he's been
charged with disorderly conduct, a misdemeanor of the fourth degree.
Leaders so called leaders of Cincinnati's black community called for
police to arrest the white man who was seen and
slapping another man in one of the viral videos of

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the fight of the attack is what it was. And
the police did say that the man charged yesterday. They
wouldn't say whether he's that man, but they did say
he is white. Okay, back to our friends at signal
ninety nine, and boy, this is right on point. The

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writer says, let's talk about victim shaming and victim blaming.
We hope that this invictive pound of flesh is worth
showing the true character of this idiot who was voted
in as mayor of Cincinnati in twenty twenty to the mayor,
Chief Thiji, the city manager, the city prosecutor, and the
city law director. We had a fourteen year old shot

(40:06):
downtown last night in the same spot where an eleven
year old was shot to death last year. Yet this
is what you spent all of your time, energy and
focus on. This is exactly why none of you are
qualified to have the jobs you have. You have no backbone,
no spine, and lack the it's a word that rhymes
with walls or lady balls to stand up and do

(40:30):
the right thing. It's called integrity. Seriously lacking in city
government in Cincinnati right now. And I think that that
hits the mark exactly. It's performative. It is panderis, it
is cow telling to the likes of people like Cecil Thomas,

(40:51):
Damon Lynch, Iris Rowley, Scottie Johnson, and the rest of
those people who demanded.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
This.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
This victim be charged with felony inciting of a riot
after he was attacked from behind by two people and
punched and slapped and kicked until he could break away.
And he's seen giving a slap back defending himself against

(41:21):
this attack in the video, literally self defense. He's a
victim of a crime. Let's not call it a hate
crime or a race crime. We all have our opinions
on that. He happens to be white, the attackers happened
to be black. I don't know. That's part of the

(41:46):
reason I never, well, hardly ever, I mean Cincinnati at all.
When I moved to Kentucky in two thousand, I said, yeah,
I'm not going back there, except if I'm making money.
But it's not an option for some people. I mean. Plus,

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there are all kinds of wonderful things the city of
Cincinnati offers that people shouldn't be afraid to dip their
toes into the water and come across the bridge or
come from wherever. Citizens should be able to walk freely
and safely in downtown Cincinnati at any hour of the

(42:29):
day without being viciously attacked anyway. The writer of this
signal ninety nine piece went on to say, let's say
Matt is nineteen and drives on a suspended license with
no current insurance or valid registration on his vehicle. Matt
is showing off his car one night and gets shot
on the shoulder. Matt drives himself to the hospital where

(42:52):
officers show up to take his statement. They inform Matt
that they need to take a look at his vehicle
for evidence, as he was in the vehicle when he
was shot. Acting within the letter of the law would
mean citing Matt for driving on a suspended license, no
proof of insurance, expired registration, but also towing an impounding
match vehicle. And that is the difference between a cop

(43:15):
acting within the letter of the law or acting within
the spirit of the law. And the writer giving kudos
to the detectives of the Cincinnati Police Department for having
the courage, the integrity, and quite frankly, the kohunas to
stand their ground and refuse to sign charges against the victim,

(43:36):
as apparently the mayor, the police chief, the city manager,
the city prosecutor, the city law director all insisted happen.
He was charged yesterday with a fourth degree misdemeanor, just
to soothe the so called savage beasts. Bill inboard, good morning,

(44:01):
you're on the air.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
Hey, thank you, brother, thank you for taking my call. Sir,
with all due respect, they're trying to make his race,
as I understand. But look, I've seen some of the takes,
and I've seen some of these you know news things
say they haven't seen the whole thing. Well, if I did,

(44:24):
they've seen it. But the guy, with all due respect,
he shouldn't have been I heard he was by trying
to get some weeds.

Speaker 7 (44:33):
And hey, this is reality. If if a white guy
goes up the head of black dude, you're ten of
fifteen a round he's going to get. And I don't agree,
but it is what it is that that lady, and
you know in Cincinnati, he got what he deserved. Now,

(44:55):
hear me out.

Speaker 8 (44:56):
Now, if it was the other way around, where this
black guy would be insane to go up and pop
some white guy. With all these guys around or they're
going to beat the snot out of me.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Yeah, and uh, hey all right, Bill, Bill, I saw
I saw the white guy slap his attackers. Uh, he'd
already been attacked. He'd already been attacked by two people
jumped him from behind. There's no justification for that, Bill, True.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
True, That's what I'm my point I'm getting to, sir.
And they all could have walked away. He could have
just walked away. But see, he got that poor woman invobbed,
and that could have I don't see what there's these
guys that hit her is not being charge of attempted
murder because what if she died? I mean that was

(45:49):
uncalled for, I mean unnecessary. He put that lady, with
all due respects her, I agree with you, but he put.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
That lady in jeopardy.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
And I don't know if I'm right or wrong, but
I think he was looking to buy some weed.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Well okay, Well, the punishment for buying weed isn't a
beat down by a mob. Bill.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
I did the situation by being there in the first place.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Well, yeah, I mean right place or wrong place, wrong place,
wrong place, wrong time will always and I'm not putting
myself in that position, No, because because I think there
were probably I don't know personally because I'm a long
way away from that particular period of my life. But

(46:39):
I think I could find a safer place to buy weed. Yes,
then downtown Cincinnati at three point thirty on a Saturday morning.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Right, man, we're right on the same page. And I
thank you so much for taking my call.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
All right, Bill, take care, bye bye. We'll take a
break and come back. Fifty five KRC, the talk station,
Cincinnati's original and must Shoe. This is Big Log by
Robert Plant. I said, Big Log, and Joe went, what

(47:25):
now you see? Now we have all these long intro songs,
we've got to at least feature just a touch of
the vocals, since that's what Robert Plant does. And it's
his birthday, is seventy seventh birthday, and somebody's calling about
Robert Plant. Well, we're rolling out the Big Log. So

(47:45):
I'm just gonna let this breathe for a moment. Show
six twenty Gary Jamsen for Brian Thomas. This morning on Wednesday,
August twentieth, the birthday of this guy Freeway in the city.

Speaker 9 (48:12):
Coming.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Isn't that nice dreaming. Jeff is on the line. Good morning, Jeff.
How are you?

Speaker 10 (48:25):
Good morning, Brian, Jeff, Brian, Jeff.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
I love it.

Speaker 11 (48:31):
I knew that.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
I knew that would make your day.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Yes, sir, Yeah, happy Humpty to you back. So you're
you had comments on Robert Plant.

Speaker 10 (48:41):
That was my favorite album, especially because Cozy Powell played
on it.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Oh yeah, and uh I have a question for you, Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Your favorite Step album?

Speaker 10 (48:54):
I can tell you mine had had to kill his
last stand.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
I know I wasn't a huge Zeppelin fan, believe it
or not. I appreciated the music. I appreciated the fact
that they fuse blues and this heavy metal vibe like
nobody else did. And that first album was just so

(49:20):
I don't know, so kind of paradigm changing when it
came out, and I believe nineteen sixty nine, but you know,
the one that everybody points to, or a lot of
people point to, is led Zeppelin for and it's probably

(49:40):
the most accessible as far as the general population. But
I really liked I really like physical Graffiti, and I
liked I liked in through the Outdoor.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 (49:54):
The well Steroid Heaven was obviously overplayed on the air
Way just like Comfortably.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
But it's an it's an anthem song, and anthem songs
always uh they burn out for the really devoted fan.
But for the casual kind of fan, Oh oh Man,
play Stairway to Heaven, play Freebird, play Comfortably. No, you
know you always get that with the with the casual

(50:24):
kind of or or pretend fan. The heavy duty fans
like stuff like Achilles Last Stand or or or Sheep
say from Pink Floyd's Animals, Uh, something like that. But
now you know what. I was never a die hard
led Zeppelin fan, but I appreciate their music and I

(50:46):
can still listen it to it today and enjoy it.
But that Robert Plants solo album after after the group
had taken leave of each other after Bonham's death and
and everything else, I've always loved that, and it was
right at the dawn of the MTV age, so they
had that great dreamy video that went along with that

(51:08):
particular track. We were playing. Enjoyed it.

Speaker 10 (51:10):
Bringing up MTV, do you remember the very first video
by the Bungles the.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Buggles, not the Bungles. That's that's the that's the team,
that's the with the no that's that's the team that
plays at pay Court Stadium, the Bungles, the Bugles. The
video killed the radio Star. Yes, And I tell you
this as someone who was in the infancy of my

(51:37):
radio career as MTV debuted with that video. I've been
in radio for probably a year and a half at
that point, and go, oh great, I've chosen a profession
that's going to be obsolete because of music video. And
you know what, forty five years later, I'm still here,
So I guess not. Yes, sir Jeff. It's good to

(51:57):
hear from you. Thank you, all right, Bud, take care.
Coming up on six twenty five, I wanted to mention
that in the next half hour will be talking to
Robert Tannenbaum, who has authored a book called That Day
in Dallas. Lee Harvey Oswald did not kill JFK. And

(52:18):
a lot of people have made that assertion over the year,
from Oliver Stone to I mean, you pick anybody. There
are people who still have pretty heated arguments over what
happened on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three and Dallely
Plaset in Dallas and how many shooters there were in
the Grassy Knoll and everything else. Well, this guy was

(52:39):
appointed a Deputy Chief Council for the Congressional Investigation into
the Kennedy assassination in nineteen seventy six, and he is
privy to all kinds of documents and all kinds of
information that maybe you've never heard will and he talks
about that in his book, and we will be talking

(53:03):
to him in this next half hour of the Morning
show coming up on six twenty six. On this Wednesday morning,
a break and back on fifty five KRCV Talk station.
We all remember that ones each mostly cloudy start, a
partly cloudy to sunny day ahead, a high of eighty
two and still very very humid, but at least we're
getting a little bit of a break on the temperature

(53:25):
front this week. It's seventy two Now at fifty five
KRCV Talk Station.

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Speaker 1 (54:08):
Our next guest is a guy who has poured over.
I mean, you want to talk about somebody who has
studied a subject in depth all the way back to
at least the mid seventies. But we're reaching back to
this November twenty second, nineteen sixty three for our discussion
this morning. And some people might ask, at this point,

(54:33):
sixty two years later, what does it matter. It matters
to a lot of people, and it certainly matters to
our guest, Robert Tannenbaum. And the subject matter is that
day in Dallas, Lee Harvey Oswald did not kill JFK.

(54:53):
And that's been the official story from the Warren Commission
on through the years. Robert, Welcome to the show. It's
great to have this discussion with you. And how are you.
I'm good, I'm glad.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
Thank you so much for giving me the chance to
discuss the important issues here regarding why this is still important,
the single most important criminal justice case in our history.
We know who killed Lincoln. We don't know who killed
the president. We don't know who killed JFK.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
And he did it.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
He did it. He was murdered at twelve thirty at
right in the public park area, and people are saying,
what you're saying, what difference does it make? Well, how
can anybody say that the president of the United States
was murdered at in Daily Plaza at twelve thirty in

(55:46):
the afternoon, He was pronounced dead at one pm, and
we don't know who killed.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Him in front of that's in front of thousand, in
front of thousands of witnesses, mind.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
You exactly, how could they possibly be that people are saying,
what difference does it make? What do you mean, what
difference does it make? We're going around murdering presidents and saying, oh,
the time, there's a time frame here. There's no time
frame here. The government's life for the last sixty two years.
They say that there were three shots fired from the back.
The problem with that theory is no one in history

(56:18):
has ever shot anybody in the back of the head
and hand his head go backwards. And that's exactly what
happened with the fourth shot at Daily plaza. There were
five shots in essence, and then came in two flurries.
The first flurry, the witnesses said, came with two or
three shots. In fact, they were three shots. I had
access to various information, of course, given the nature of

(56:42):
what I'm talking about, coming into this thing. In January
of seventy seven, I was asked by Richard Sprague, who
was the chief assistant DA in Philadelphia, who was in
October of seventy six became the chief counsel and staff
director of House Assassinations Committee, and he asked me out

(57:04):
of the club. Louis called me up. I didn't know
who he was. I was in the DA's office at
the time. I spent my first ten years in the
DA's office in the office of Legendary d A. Frank Hogan.
I say legendary. He had been in the office since
thirty five. He was appointed by governor. He was essentially
appointed by Governor Lehman, a Jewish governor, and who appointed

(57:25):
Tom Dewey, mister Republican, to check out corruption in the
DA's office in New York County and among other places.
And Dewey had an amazing career, as I'm sure you know,
he became DA in thirty nine. In forty two he
became governor, and in forty four and forty eight he
ran for president, as I know, and Hogan became the

(57:48):
DA in forty two, the DA in forty two. Up
until then he was working as an assistant DA with
Dewey and he then became DA in forty two when
we made that way. Until seventy four, I was in
the offices straight out of law school out of Berkeley.
I went to college from law school at Berkeley, and

(58:12):
I have the title probably the most conservative person ever
to go to Berkeley.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Everybody asked me, Yeah, no doubt so. In nineteen anyway,
in nineteen seventy six, you're appointed deputy Chief Counsel in
charge of the Congressional investigation of President Kennedy's assassination.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Right, that's correct, That's exactly what happened. And Dick Break did.
He was a chief assistant DA in Philadelphia, a wonderful person.
I didn't know him. I mean I was then I
was involved in I was running the homicide Bureau in
the DA's office in Manhattan, as well as the criminal courts.
And get this, it's hard to take this followed in
so quickly. But in the criminal courts where I was

(58:50):
in charge, the average amount of case loads every day
because we were reigned at night, and which is a
good thing to the extent that you don't want to
have someone to rest it on a Thursday and the
one shows up on a Friday, they're not there Saturday
and Sunday. On a Monday, a DA gets the case,
he throws it out. Well, what happened to the guy
who was in jail studying on Thursday night. So what

(59:11):
the bottom line is what we did was we are
rained seven days a week and in that process we
had two hundred and fifty new cases every day, one
hundred and fifty during the day and one hundred at
night night meeting, you know, from seven pm till about
one two or three in the morning. So that was
our duty, you know, we our duty meeting. That was
our responsibility as the das to make sure we covered

(59:34):
the courts in every manner. And so that's what happened
with respect to that. But I didn't know Spray to
the extent that, as I said, I was, you know,
running the criminal course, the homicide you were trying murder cases,
the only person who actually tried to vert it and
prosecuted him would have hurt the cases than I was.
Richard Sprague in Philadelphia's a fabulous person.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
So we've we've got this part of your resume down.
Let's talk a little bit about it night seventy six,
and you're the Deputy Chief Council in charge of the
Congressional investigation into John F. Kennedy, And a lot of
people at that point thought it was settled because the
Warrent Commission had come out and they stated flatly that

(01:00:16):
Lee Harvey Oswald was the loan gunman, and all the
testimony had happened, and many of them just wanted to
sweep it under the rug. What happens in nineteen seventy six,
seventy seven when you get there.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
Well, when I get there, it's interesting because Richie Schweiker,
you may recall, Senator Richard Schweicker is the conservative as
Dame then, a conservative, middle of the road person. He
wasn't looking for a cheap kind of interview with someone
about anything having to do with this case or any
other case of that matter. But he was part of
the Senator Church Committee, and Schweiker was in charge of

(01:00:51):
the Executive Committee. The executive committees in our government the
Article two people in the Constitution have intelligence operations in
every one of these departments. The most outrageous of which
I say outrageous, was they've taken over the government in
so many different ways is the CIA, and you know

(01:01:11):
that is our major intelligence branch. And that created a
lot of difficult problems. It's for people who cared about
the profit procedures in order to have things done by
the government. And it so happened that Schweiker, as soon
as I got to Washington called me and asked me
to come to his office. He had two important things
to tell me. I said, of course, I'll come, and

(01:01:33):
I went there and he told me. He gave me
his files and he said that what I'm about to
tell you, you've been in the DA's office for ten years,
basically running it. He said. I said, well, I want
to go that far, and he said, well, I would.
I know all about you, and I'm telling you that

(01:01:55):
from our investigation. You have it in my notes U
members of the CIA itself participated in the assassination of
the President of the United States. This gets us to
the original question who cares. Now, how can we not
care about this?

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Is it? Okay? Okay? The CIA people murdered the president.
We passed the mashed potatoes please and the lamb shops
come on.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Serious stuff, all right, I tell you what this is.
This is a great place to break and we'll get
into the We'll get into the mashed potatoes and and
the meat when we come back with Robert Tannenbaum that
day in Dallas, Lee Harvey Oswell did not kill JFK.
Here on fifty five k r C, the talk station

(01:02:41):
got Angel time.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
Are we.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Again?

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
We're talking to Robert Tannenbaum that day in Dallas, Le
Harvey Oswald did not kill JFK. And he's got definitive
information on that topic. When we left, you're appointed Deputy
Chief Council of the Congressional Investigation into the Kennedy assassination

(01:03:06):
of John F. Kennedy, and Richard Schweigert, Senator, gives you
information that says that the CIA was involved in the
murder of the president. So let's pick it up from there.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
Okay. So what the bottom line is is that we
also have to understand what the culture was, which is shocking.
The culture being like given an example, in the third
week of January sixty four, three people go to see
the Chief Justice or A. Warren, and as Henry Wade,

(01:03:43):
the DA of Dallas, wagging a car the Attorney General,
and Leon Jowarski was the lawyer for the Attorney General.
And it took ten years for everybody to get to
know who Leon Jowarski was, of course, and what happened
was they said that based upon immutable evidence, the words
that Lee Harvey Oswald was a contract employee for the

(01:04:04):
CIA and the FBI. Well, the government was overly concerned
about having anyone leak out that Oswald in fact was
since nineteen fifty seven he was a contract employee of
the CIA and the FBI. And as a matter of fact,
I have a note here that I should just get

(01:04:25):
out very quickly for you. And on that note is
that John Angleton was our counter intel bizar and he
ran Leejavey Oswald as a fake defector to the Soviet Union.
As you may recall, in nineteen fifty nine, and Lee
Harvey Oswald had been a CIA asset since fifty seven,
but at the time of his recruitment into Angleton's operation,

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Oswolds was a radio a radar operator working at the
CIA's top secret Lockheed YouTube Air Base and at Sugi,
Japan and the US Marine. Oswald had been at at
Suhisin's fifty seven tracking CIA spy flights over the Soviet
Union and China. And the bottom line to all that

(01:05:11):
was that the government was very concerned about avoiding having
to explain to the American public how someone that the
government was saying murdered the president had worked for the government.
It's not simple, it's not complex, but yet that's simple.
And so the bottom line to this was that the

(01:05:32):
eyewitness is at the scene, people believe, you know, the
interesting phenomenon here, most people believe they're not a good
eyewitness if they if they saw a shooting, but they
can't identify the shooter and that sort of thing. They're
wrong about that. And here's an example when I when
I spoke with all thet all the information about all
the witnesses, first thing you do in any kind of
case like this is, you know, you speak to the

(01:05:53):
people who were there, and they said that there were
two or three shots, which I alluded to before, and
in fact, there were three shots and the first three shots.
They didn't know how long it took, but what they
said had happened very quickly. Well, it took two point
six seconds. The whole shooting, according to the Warring Commission,
was eight point three seconds. And then this happened, which

(01:06:15):
puts a major lie to everything that the government had said.
And zach Ruter framed three to one three frame three
one three. Keep in mind the eighteen point three frames
per second, eighteen point three frames per second in the
camera of zach Ruder. And at three point thirteen we
see that fourth shot. There's a big boom, and if

(01:06:37):
you're on the bridge watching the car come, the limo
come at you as a spectator, it's going to it's
heading under the bridge you're on top of.

Speaker 5 (01:06:46):
And the.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
Individuals involved in this whole thing were to the extent
moved their head all the way. If you're on the bridge,
you moved head to the left because of the boom blast.
There was a huge gloom this foreshot, and that's the
shot that blew JFK's head off. And then so doing
the following occurred. It happens right in front of us

(01:07:12):
as witnesses watching a film, and the shot came from
the Stockcak fence which was in close proximity to this
the no Hill area, and that's where afterwards it was filming,
and he's he looks as he's filming, he looks to
his off his right shoulder as you look at him,
and he looks into the area of the stock Kse fence.

(01:07:35):
Other people were there. They had shot. They said shots
were fired over their head. They claimed they were in
the line of fire, not just one shot. But the
key gear is among other things, is that JFK's head
went hit. And that's he tells the whotel here. It's interesting.
It's not his body, it's his head. When his head
was hit, his head violently snapped back and to the left.

(01:07:59):
He was leaning on.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
He was immobile.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
He was basically body depressed and he was slumped header
on his wife's right shoulder as we saw. Well, how
could that have been the case? How can the government
maintain for sixty two years that he was shot in
the back of the head, but yet his head moved backwards.
And they tried to pay They were so aggro arrogant
about this because this was the basis of a lot

(01:08:25):
of their lives, and they tried to never talked about
the fact that the head went backwards and he was
hit in the back as well, which puts a major lae,
of course to the whole one bullet theory, which is
the pristine bullet. And that bullet illigedly struck came out
Kennedy's throat, but it ended five inches below the throat area,

(01:08:46):
and it was a downward track. We know that from
the autopsy report. It's all in my book. And how
could it be that someone was shot in the back
of the head and his head went back. So they
conducted tests and they lined up ten jegatized jelatinized skulls.

Speaker 11 (01:09:04):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
Suggestive and this and the same height as the as
the as the depository window where the shots allisurely occurred.

Speaker 7 (01:09:14):
And uh.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
And they they fired shots into all the ten heads,
onto the skeletons, and guess what, all their heads went forward.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Big deal.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
I mean, how smart do you have to be to
figure that one out? If you hit someone with a
baseball bat in their head in the side of their head,
his head is going to snap back and fall outwards.
It's basics, it's basic physits. And what happened was they
then came back to government with a scientific test to

(01:09:46):
just to to refute what you just said. This is
an honest statement. The neutron activation analysis, it's a. It's
a it's a principal testing component for comparative bullet let analysis.
What does that mean. It's mumbo jumbo. It means that
the government was saying we can match a fragment to
a fragment because there were two big fragments in the limo. Therefore,

(01:10:06):
there was one piece of evidence in the cart fragments
a fragment and a fragment to a whole bullet. And
they took a freshure, they took the pieces out of
fragments out of Governor Connolly's wrist, and they said it
matches the magic bullet. But they then did tests on
and all of again, this evidence is in the book.

(01:10:27):
All the evidence is there. It's amazing that this hasn't
been picked up before. And there's a there's an explanation
that was given to me why and uh. But anyway,
the bullet that the fragments that allegedly struck Connolly and
his right wrist that fractured his wrists and fractured his
axial nerve, he was holding that stets and hand that

(01:10:49):
he may recall it. He drops it when he gets
hit with this fragment. And so we had to make
a determination with all the things that happened with these
fragments and his head, his head was hit in the
fish shot. His head was hit on the top of
the head and his head moved forward and it enlarge
the existing wound of the foreshot. And they striking Connolly

(01:11:09):
in that wrist caused him to drop, to drop the
stepson off with all the shooting that went on. And
uh so the government kept insisting that no matter what
these tests were, and then they even insisted, after the
heads moved forward, that they struck these shollows in our substance.
They said, that's exactly the way it was with JFK. Well,

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of course it wasn't that way, because when you look
at the photo of JFK at autopsy, his face is
totally clear. But the examples of the skeletons which are
in the book and.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
That half of their face is gone, well, man, I
can't I can't read to dive into the book, wait
to dive into the book. And I know folks will
want to after hearing you just kind of set things up.
Robert Tannenbaum is the author that day in Dallas, Lee
Harvey Oswell did not kill jfk Uh. You've got my
appetite ated for sure, Robert. We got to move along.

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
Well, thank you, thank you very much for the opportunity,
you bet.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
You and great look, great luck with the book and
convincing people to care about this again, because if they
can kill a sitting president, all the rest of us
are sitting ducks. Over a week since President Trump federalized
and brought in the National Guard to help battle crime

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in our nation's capital, the Federal District of Columbia Washington,
d C, crime and the rest are up, and crime
is down, even though a lot of people claimed that
crime was down anyway in DC over the last two

(01:12:47):
or three years, and you can pick and choose your
stats to determine that, but there's no doubt this has
made a difference. What are the ramification for that? Well, again,
d C is a federal district, and the president does
have a constitutional right under emergency authority to do what

(01:13:09):
he has done in Washington, d C. What about in Chicago?
What about in Baltimore, New York City? What about in Cincinnati.
We'll talk about that after the break here at seven o'clock.
No crime is actually down in Washington, d C. Over
the last thirty forty years because the current mayor. The

(01:13:32):
current mayor has never been arrested for smoking crack food
for thought, don't eat too much, Gary Jeffen for Brian.
Will take a break and be back with you in
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How you doing, Gary Jeff Walker and for Brian Thomas.
Six minutes past the hour. So as we know, and

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I mentioned before the break, and you know very well
if you follow the news at all, and if you're
listening to the station, you probably do. President Trump made
the executive decision as Commander of Chief to federalize the
police force in Washington, d C. About a week and

(01:14:54):
a half ago, along with Pam Bondy, the Attorney General,
and in conjunction working with Janine Piro, who is the
acting Attorney the DA in Washington, d C. Appointed by
the President, and in coordination with the Mayor, Muriel Bowser,

(01:15:15):
they've made a lot of arrests. Crime seems to be
taking a back seat to law and order in our
nation's capital. And as the President stated, quoting his father,
if you go to a restaurant in the front door's dirty,
don't go inside because the kitchen's going to be dirty too.

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And he wants our nation's capital to be a shining
example of not only justice, but also of law and order.
He wants it to be clean. That means cleaning up
the graffiti and of fixing broken windows in essence, and

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he does have the power within the constitution to do
this on an emergency thirty day basis, which he has
done and it seems to be working so far, but many,
especially on the left, have taken exception to this. The

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Democrats seem to be on the side of crime and
dirt over law and order and cleanliness. But really, what
should be a shining example for the rest of the country,
which Washington, d C. Has not been for years by

(01:16:44):
anyone's admission. So the question then is can it go
further than thirty days? And as you heard during the news,
perhaps Anna Paulina Luna, Republican House of Representatives member, has
introduced leda to make this a more permanent thing and
to go beyond the thirty day installation of our National

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Guard in the capital. And people are questioned, so where
does this go from here? The Democrats are going absolutely
berzerko with this, saying what's next Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore. Well,

(01:17:36):
if those people in those particular cities, all controlled by Democrats,
are more concerned with letting the inmates run the asylum
in those cities, then maybe, yeah, here's the other side
of the coin, playing devil's advocate here, and I'm definitely

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on the right of this issue. Say another president's in charge,
maybe a Democrat president, a leftist, a Marxist somehow gets
elected to the highest office in the land. Do they
bring in the National Guard because they declare an emergency

(01:18:22):
for on a climate change or the next scamdemic that
is perpetrated on the world and the American people. Does
this open the door for authoritarianism that most people would
not agree with. It's kind of the libertarian question you

(01:18:48):
have to ask at a point like this, and what
about Cincinnati? You know, the one thing that Cincinnati has
in common with Chicago, Boston, Massachusetts, New York, Los Angeles.

Speaker 12 (01:19:09):
Is not.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
That someone is black or of a certain ethnicity in charge,
or that they're a Democrat. The one continuum thread through
all of this is the obvious incompetence of the people
who are leading that city. And it's been blatantly obvious

(01:19:31):
in Cincinnati, especially lately. Let's go to William real quick
on the Downtown beat Down. William, good morning, you're on
the air.

Speaker 13 (01:19:41):
Yeah, your color across the dial reported the same way
about the person that was arrested was white. Why is
that important?

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Well, I don't think it's important at all.

Speaker 13 (01:19:57):
But the news director does Your news director is about
everybody else trying to make news. You talk about you know,
people talk about racism. Well, I can tell you you
guys promlitated all the time because that's what you do.
Oh he was white?

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
Why you may not?

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
Well, hold on, hold on, William. You paint this broad
brush blanket and you say, you guys, and you know what,
I'm part of one of those you guys. And I'm
not doing that at all, Am.

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
I I just said, maybe not you.

Speaker 13 (01:20:37):
What your news director does? Who has more influence you?
Or the news director who puts it out there every
half hour.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
Well, I've said for years, whether it's our news department
or any other news department, they need to stick to
reporting the news. They're not allowed. They're not allowed to
by journalistic standards. They should not be allowed to slant
a story any way that they so choose. Just the facts, please,

(01:21:11):
Just the facts, ma'am. But that doesn't happen sadly in America.
And that's why journalism is dead. And that's why shows
like mine or like Brian's or anybody else who gives
a listener like you a chance to respond to that
is the counterbalance. And I think we have just as
much influence because people are starting to see the news,

(01:21:36):
as biased as it may seem to you, for what
it is and what it has become and what it
has become is not a fact based provider of information,
but another commentary, and that's not supposed to be in
the news. You're right, as long.

Speaker 13 (01:21:54):
As it's selves advertising and people are setting out there
as a rule of a lot of them setting they're going,
I can't wait wait until they announced that it was
a white person. I just it infuriates me because they
continue to run with this narrative, and they are the
ones that are creating the narrative people.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
I think people are starting to wake up to this,
William and the false narrative. I think they are.

Speaker 13 (01:22:23):
It's tired of it. I like listening to you guys,
but when the news comes on, I have to shut
it down.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
Well, and that's a great thing to do. Do you
think that I sit in here in the studio during
the news break and listen to every word that's that's
coming out. I mean, the only thing I heard in
that last news break that I found of interest was
was the fact that there may be seasium one thirty
seven in shrimp. I'm like, it's it's going to make

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me think about my next shrimp cocktail.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
Absolutely right, William?

Speaker 13 (01:22:57):
Who controls the direct.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
What do you mean, who controls him?

Speaker 13 (01:23:04):
Who monitors whether he is doing what you say by
rule they should not be.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
Well, no, it's by journalistic standards. There's no rules anymore,
and maybe that's part of the problem. I don't want
the news controlled either way, William. I just want it
to be reporting that will never happen. Well, I'm more
optimistic than you are. Thank you, Mississippi. James. What a

(01:23:31):
great name.

Speaker 11 (01:23:32):
How you doing, hey man, great place to great place too.
If you can assimilate in what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
Well I can assimilate. I can assimilate anywhere. We grew
up all over the country when I was being raised,
so you know, I'm just as home at home in
suburban Chicago as I was in Nashville and Chattanooga, Tennessee
for many years as I am in Cincinnati. I can
be anywhere, Mississippi, and I'll be happy.

Speaker 11 (01:24:01):
You're a well balanced man.

Speaker 4 (01:24:03):
That's what we need.

Speaker 11 (01:24:04):
More of what's on your mind now, you know, looking
at the news, and I have to listen at both sides,
you know, and then realize the truth probably in the middle,
and then you try to get it out of there yourself.
Like you say, journalism stew to one way or to
the other. One, you know, being on the agenda, and

(01:24:25):
it's obvious now we go back this brawl that haven't
in Cincinnati, riot, whatever you want to call it. Yeah,
you know, you listen at different peoples and they see
it through they the lens of their experience, and you know,
it get twisted and turned so much, so you know,

(01:24:46):
you look at it and you say, okay, let's go
with the picture of Jesus that we was, that we
was indoctrinated to believe, well, okay, that there was quite supremacy.
So all these black people went all these years thinking
that was Jesus until we either woke up, wise up,

(01:25:07):
or accepted another point of view. So we really don't know.
But what we do know he probably didn't look like
what was given to us. So when you have saying
Jesus this is him this he.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Looks like a Jewish carpenter and he was the living
human son of God. That's what I believe, James, and
God does not have a color. And for people to
continue to view everything through the lens of color is
part of the problem. And that kind of attitude is

(01:25:43):
part of the problem. It's not about color. As far
as the beat down, the attack in Cincinnati on July
twenty sixth. It's not about color. It's about criminality. And
I'm sorry. If you're being beaten by two or three
other people and you react and slap them back, you're

(01:26:05):
not participating in the criminality. You're a victim of that criminality,
regardless of what your skin pigmentation is. I'll tell you what.
We've got a lot of ignorant people, and color is
not a determinant of how ignorant you may be. And

(01:26:28):
the people who continue to bring out color on either
side of the argument or again, part of the problem,
not the solution. Seven eighteen at fifty five KRCV Talk station,
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Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Five KRC the talk station. This past weekend Sunday, myself
and some friends and some beatlemaniacs got together at habs
Iris Pub on Erie and Hyde Park. The owner there,
Danny Thomas, called me a couple of months ago and said, Gary, Jeff,
remember those Beatles parties we used to throw every year

(01:28:04):
at HAPs that you m seed You had the remote
from the radio station back when I was doing breakfast Reveals.
I said, yeah, it's a great time. He said, well,
it's our fiftieth anniversary this year. Do you think we
can do one That same Sunday in August, so we
got together just no radio remote because there's no show anymore.

(01:28:26):
But it was just a great time. Thanks to everybody
who came out and enjoyed Beatles' music on the patio
on a hot summer Sunday afternoon in a very friendly place.
And happy anniversary to HAPs fifty years with the same family. Next,

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we have jud Dunning, who's a Newsmax columnist and he's
an author, he's a radio and TV host, and we're
talking specifically about criminality of illegal immigrants and how the
Trump administration, in spite of all the backlash they're getting

(01:29:14):
an ice is getting for enforcement of our laws, are
actually making a difference and why it matters, and why
this isn't about bigotry or xenophobia or racism. It's about
what's right for American citizens. And that was kind of

(01:29:37):
brought to light. And we'll bring it up again with
the the illegal immigrant from India who received a commercial
driver's license in California at the DMV and is driving
an eighteen wheel weapon across the country and causes the
deaths of three people in Florida. You know, he just

(01:30:00):
was arrested. This week will be extra extradited back to
I believe Fort Pierce, Saint Lucie County in Florida. Anyway,
that discussion with jud Dunning is just ahead on the
morning show, and I hope you stick around for it.
He's a brilliant guy and among his among his books

(01:30:21):
are thirteen and a half Reasons Not to Be a
Liberal entertaining stuff seven twenty five at fifty five KRC,
the talk station. We all remember that one teacher who
back with you on the morning show on fifty five KRC,
Gary jeffin for Bryan and joining us in this half hour. Man,
I've been looking and it's been so long since I've

(01:30:43):
had the chance to talk to this guy, the man
behind Unapologetic with JOD with Judd Dunning. He's at Judd
Dunning on X. He's a Newsmax author and columnist, a
best selling author. My favorite of all time was thirteen
and a half Reasons Not to Be a Liberal, But

(01:31:05):
of course there's rationalist Ratings to Save America as well.
And his latest piece, it's in two parts, I understand
now started last week, a new one this week, and
it's basically entitled one Illegal, One Dead Child, too Many
Why Trump's border revolution must remain an ongoing American moral imperative.

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Jud Dunning, welcome to the show.

Speaker 5 (01:31:34):
Great to be here, Thank you for having me. It's
always a pleasure, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
All right. So I'm just gonna read just the leadoff
piece to the first part. And as you just mentioned,
and I haven't seen part two of this continuation, as
you get more information in jud but part one begins,
and it's so poignant. America is a compassionate nation. But

(01:32:02):
compassion without law is chaos. Compassion without borders is destruction.
And when that chaos ends in a child's death, a
mother's rape, or an entire family shattered by foreign criminality,
we must ask what exactly are we being compassionate toward.

(01:32:24):
I'll let you fill in the blanks.

Speaker 5 (01:32:27):
Oh, thank you, it's great to be here. Look, I
participate in the constitution. I have property rights as an American.
Eminent domain takes away property rights right we have that
when there's a public works a legal immigration is a
form of eminent domain over our system, over our lives,

(01:32:50):
over our safety. If you steal something, Gary, it doesn't
mean you have rights to it, which is the liberal
idiacy of this current and all these judges and these
governors trying to stand and enforce ideology over safety.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
You know what tills the nation? The truth was the facts.

Speaker 5 (01:33:07):
I mean, there was a game rate of seven year
old you know in Florida, in Texas, there was a kidnapping,
sexual assault in Houston and New Jersey. There were multiple
DUIs today in California. The immigrant as an Indian migrant
with homicides for the highway U turn getting his CBL.
And then I continued on, I kept going through. I

(01:33:29):
wrote one article last week and I said, you know,
are we morally relativistic or we morally absolute? If somebody
kills your child, don't think about the nation. Your child
gets killed by a legal immigrant who's not.

Speaker 4 (01:33:41):
Supposed to be here, is that moral? Is that just?

Speaker 5 (01:33:44):
Is the government faily who cares about ideology? And that
the examples are countless. So last night I'm like, I'm
going to revisit all my new sources and I'm gonna
look again and multiple examples of death caused by illegals
in our country. Now, I do want to I always
want to balance this. Illegal immigrants actually on the most part,

(01:34:05):
commit less crimes. That's not the problem. The problem that
there's seventeen people that bombed nine to eleven. They were
the problem, not everyone in is. It's just it's not
it's relative, and it's not relative, it's still more absolute
because it's illegal and it's causing death and distraction.

Speaker 1 (01:34:20):
Well, it goes to the title of the peace and
the whole intent of the piece. Jud one illegal, one
dead child, too many.

Speaker 5 (01:34:28):
Done, and that's what That's what this week from between
the seventy eleven in Dade County, Wisconsin, there were you know,
two teams killed by Missivilla there and then uh in Maryland,
a thirty seven year old mother was raped and murdered
by another one. In California, an immigrant left a child

(01:34:52):
in there a hot car. But I actually did this
crazy study house. I was like writing two in the morning,
and I looked at the amount of criminal accidents have
happened on our highways from undocumented illegal aliens, and it
was significant. It was like fifty five percent in California.
I mean the state, the liberal states, New York, Chicago,

(01:35:12):
all the states that accommodated this ideology of that amnesty
is or right. You can steal the American dre im
but you don't have to pay the tab. Their citizens
are at higher risk of death on our freeways. So
I mean it's it's undeniable. What else, what else do
we need?

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
Look, jud this guy sing who's got the CDL in California.
He's an illegal from India, and he came in in
twenty eighteen, of course illegally. He came in in twenty
eighteen and was for some reason given some kind of

(01:35:50):
bond because he said he was in fear for his
life in his own country. Somehow, in California they fit
to give this guy a commercial driver's license to CDL,
which you need to drive an eighteen wheeler, which is
the biggest weapon on the road in America, which means

(01:36:10):
he's now not just in California, he's going all over
the country, Okay. And he commits an illegal U turn
in Saint Lucie County, Florida. And as he's committing this
illegal U turn, as an illegal immigrant illegally in America,

(01:36:31):
three people in a mini van run into the side
of that trailer because he's doing something he's not supposed
to be doing on the road. They die terrible fatal crash.
My question is he's not supposed to be in this
country walking, much less driving an eighteen wheeler. He's not

(01:36:56):
legal to walk in our country. He's an ill legal
immigrant from India who's here illegally. So why is he
behind the wheel of this massive tractor Trailer'll give.

Speaker 5 (01:37:13):
You an easy answer, driver's license, said at voter id books, Right.
I mean we deconstructed the legality of identification because it's racist. Right,
So you can go in, you can get the services,
you can vote, you can do it all.

Speaker 4 (01:37:27):
We're asking rational ravings of the right.

Speaker 5 (01:37:32):
We're asking people to identify themselves, and you identify yourself properly.

Speaker 4 (01:37:35):
This would have never happened.

Speaker 5 (01:37:37):
But you know why they don't want it. What's the
long game and the cultural marks? This deconstruction of America
by flooding the borders. Why did it?

Speaker 4 (01:37:44):
I was on a show earlier today.

Speaker 5 (01:37:46):
Why did the left during Biden before in seven, ten, eleven, twenty,
who knows the amount of millions came in because they
were obviously trying to dilute the country.

Speaker 4 (01:37:55):
In the vote. There was no reason to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:37:56):
So the right is being for being extremely anti immigr
to clean them out right now? And the reason we
can't set up panels and look at everybody and consider every.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
Case is because what the left just did.

Speaker 5 (01:38:07):
They flooded our country so much it would take I
think when they say's like twelve years and like another
two million ice agents. We don't have those agents. So
we have to throw anyone and everybody out because of
the left now feasans not because the right is racist,
so who cares? So suddenly, because they've abused the system
so badly, we've got to throw everybody out and just

(01:38:31):
start start clean slate. And now we have because we
put intention and attention, the holy Divinity of America, of
our American intelligence and mind and our system on a problem.
And now we're starting to see the problem is not
just Squadmalans or Mexicans with fence and all our sex trafficking.
It's the dilution of the ethos of our country, which

(01:38:53):
is a certain level of ethics, safety, and morality and responsibility.
I think it's you know, it's folks at Indian people
watch now they're racist.

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
Nothing to do with those all, No, exactly A Judd
Dunning is our guest will take a quick break and
come back more on the follow up with the host
of unapologetic with Judd Dunning the man himself on fifty
five KRC, the talk station at Chimney Care.

Speaker 6 (01:39:18):
They know the value of a.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
Bit this week from last week, but still a bit
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Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
Station for the next few minutes. Jud Dunning as our
guest Newsmax columnists, best selling author, a radio and TV
host who does a much better job than I do,
but acquiesced and came on my show anyway, this morning,
so jud we were talking about this illegal immigrant Indian

(01:40:26):
who got arrested and is going to be extradited to
Florida for the fatal the vehicular homicide that caused three
Floridians to die unnecessarily. The thing about this is is
these crimes, whether it's the rape of a child, the
murder and rape of a child, the murder of a mother,

(01:40:48):
the murder of a mother and her child by any means,
by an illegal this is all strictly preventable, right.

Speaker 5 (01:41:00):
Exactly. And to jump over, that's why most Americans are
glad to hear that Trump might sink drones or forces
to Mexico to take out the forces that are risking
our society. Like people are aligned with Hey, you know what,
at the end of the day, inflation is one thing,
but safety is another.

Speaker 4 (01:41:19):
Listen.

Speaker 5 (01:41:19):
We ran this experiment very in Los Angeles. I live
in Los Angeles, halftime Texas and half the time more
in Texas. And if the irk just kidding, but I
do I like it down here. But we left because
third sixth and Prop thirty six and Prop forty they
ran this. They ran this experiment in Los Angeles. They
would the homogeny, they would homogenize the victim class of

(01:41:42):
criminality of criminals in Los Angeles. So some of you
will know they watched the news of the mob robbing
and everything that happened. It's the fourteen misdemeanors under gascon
became less or laws thousand dollars time. And I got
held up the nights on election day for confronting a
guy who's drone, and see I got card jacked and
my wife got Chase Machetti during this period of time.

(01:42:05):
Politics are personal politics or personal politics are personal presidents, police, pastors,
you know, and parents. We have a standard in our
country of you know, what comes to the person. I'm
going to tell you someone I haven't talked about this
on the radio. I've been in a multiple, multiple year
case and we lost a family member to fence and all,

(01:42:27):
and it is we are. I cannot I've been bound
for a couple of years. I've got somebody facing like
thirty years right now, twelve counts of trafficking and we
find out later that he was you know, he's from Guatemala.
And you know we've had we've been personally damaged. I
can't say aything else about it. We've got multiple cases
going and it's been horrible. But the you know, the
the government in the United States Constitution says we will

(01:42:51):
provide for the common defense and ensure domestic tranquility. Amen,
you know, and that's that's what they're supposed to be doing.
Let's not wrap has seen some false thing. If you,
I'd tell anybody America, you sit in front of me
and you imagine one of these kids that just died
in this record, one of these kids in all these
other situations. On my two articles you can see it

(01:43:14):
at Jed Dunning on Twitter at Jed Dune and Twitter
three D two ends, or that's where I posted these.
They're also coming out in News magazine and you can
catch them there because I put them up on my
press is. If you look at all the situations, it
is undeniable. It is undeniable. If you consider your child
against illegal immigration, you know one, I'd say one child,

(01:43:36):
my child. Your child is as valuable as a million
immigrants getting thrown out of this country because they don't
have the right to be here.

Speaker 4 (01:43:43):
It's they don't you able to just steal.

Speaker 5 (01:43:45):
The dream and then take all the benefits well, you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
And the argument against what we're talking about this morning,
Jed Dunning is that, uh, we must be xenophobes, we
must be racists, or we must hate brown people. And
the fact of the matter is, as we mentioned earlier
in the conversation, and we all know this is true,
is that they're not just coming from Central and Latin America.

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They're not just brown people. They're coming from India, They're
coming from the Congo and Africa. They're coming from all
over the globe. They let in twenty six thousand or
so Chinese nationals from communists China of military age across

(01:44:30):
the California border. What are they doing here? And the
CCP doesn't let people leave China unless there is a
particular purpose and plan.

Speaker 4 (01:44:41):
Do they.

Speaker 5 (01:44:44):
Oh? Absolutely not, right, I mean we're talking about so
many different variations of safety. You know, it is interesting, right,
I mean, only five percent of immigrants and this is
the reality of situation.

Speaker 4 (01:44:57):
Was always looking to these rashually.

Speaker 5 (01:44:58):
They are liked sent our Traucasian Now there's not a
lot of people fleeing a lot of these other countries.
We have to have a Judeo Christian you know, European
heritage with a large population of one type. It doesn't
mean that I don't know, I don't even see. I
don't even think about the color. I don't even think
about the person came to I think about the legality
of the situation. And remember, I mean, we love immigrants,

(01:45:20):
you know we we are of immigrants. My family's fled
the programs. My family fled to fled.

Speaker 4 (01:45:26):
The Dell shot the Dell caster shot my mom's dog,
and we fled down there.

Speaker 5 (01:45:31):
My grandma fled being killed in the programs at that time.
We all come from somewhere else. Has nothing to do
with that. Stop weaponizing this false narrative and just say,
you know what, today, I'm going to protect my kid.
And that's why I wrote it from this point of view,
and I did the follow up is and.

Speaker 4 (01:45:48):
I'm going to do a show and this is over.

Speaker 5 (01:45:50):
I'm to call no more dead kids.

Speaker 4 (01:45:52):
Because if you.

Speaker 5 (01:45:52):
Want to get to the right the center of our country,
what's been having in like and I also see sexual morality.

Speaker 4 (01:45:59):
Why what's go with ask and Diddy?

Speaker 5 (01:46:01):
Why is it not the outrage of of all the
other outrages, Like you know, there's there's a few moral
lines that need to become, as I said my first article,
a moral imperative. The first one is the legal immigration
because it's so it can be so damaging with the
fence and all of the trafficking, the crime, et cetera.
And the second one is social morality. I mean, I
don't know if we're going to get to it this time,

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but maybe later in Trump's turn.

Speaker 4 (01:46:24):
We'll see.

Speaker 5 (01:46:24):
I don't think anyone else has the cohones to take
on the biggest, you know, the second biggest one.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
You can catch all this at Judge jud Dunning on
X or on people still call it Twitter. You did
at jud Dunning. That's two d's two ends, Jug Dunning
at jud Dunning on X and check out this article
and both of them. Uh, they're amazing pieces and they're

(01:46:51):
right on point, jud and kind of off the subject,
but it was announced this week that the NFL is
continuing to put racism and choose love in the end
zones and all these social causes, and what struck me
as interesting. I was mentioning it earlier this morning. No

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NFL team is putting Chew's life in an end zone.
Isn't that all?

Speaker 11 (01:47:19):
Isn't that?

Speaker 4 (01:47:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:47:22):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:47:23):
Football is such a powerful thing.

Speaker 4 (01:47:26):
And it's becovered such a sensitive forum. And yeah, it's
it's just part of it.

Speaker 5 (01:47:32):
It's the hangover of cancel culture and all.

Speaker 4 (01:47:34):
Of it for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:47:35):
Yeah, no doubt. Jud Dunning, thank you so much for
your time, great conversation. I really appreciated.

Speaker 4 (01:47:41):
Oh, thank you. God bless America.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
Talk to Gary all right, jud jud Dunning with us
this morning back after we break on fifty five krs
the talk station. Much your collar a little walking in
Memphis on a Wednesday morning. It's seven fifty two. How
you doing, I'm Gary, Jeff. The City of Cincinnati yesterday

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actually Monday, outlined the assistance it would like from the
state of Ohio, weeks after Governor DeWine first offered Ohio
Department of Public Safety resources to address violent crime in Cincinnati.
Their request is kind of puzzling to me because the
police chief Fiji, the mayor Purval. The city manager, Cheryl Long,

(01:48:29):
wrote in a letter to the Wine on Monday, the
following measures would help Cincinnati's ongoing safety plan. First, Ohio
State Highway patrol assistance with traffic enforcement on local interstates,
and more tickets for people who otherwise are obeying the law,
but maybe have a lead foot. Oh that's going to
help violent crime, Ohio State Highway Patrol, aerial support for

(01:48:53):
Cincinnati police investigations. Okay, that's kind of helpful. I would
think this one is puzzling liquor permit compliance, inspection and
enforcement help from the Ohio Investigative Unit. Is there a
problem with people illegally selling liquor and that is spawning

(01:49:16):
beatdowns like the one that happened July twenty sixth, of
the constant shootings and killings in the city of Cincinnati,
I'm not sure that liquor permit compliance, inspection and enforcement
is the thing that local police need the most from
the state. And you continued sharing of evidence and intelligence

(01:49:39):
with the Ohio and Narcantics Intelligence Center. That's kind of
doesn't really tell you much. It kind of makes sense.
But of those four requests, the letter also noted the
city is looking to work with ODPs on its plan
to address violent offender warrant enforcement and post release control compliance.

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Because most of the violent crime in this city and
around the country is committed by the same handful the
same set of people, the recidivism rate is through the roof.
With violent crime why are they out on the streets
after they commit the first offense. Well, maybe you've got

(01:50:30):
to look into the prosecutor. Maybe you've got to look
into left leaning judges. Maybe you've got to take the
handcuffs off of the police so they can put them
on the offenders and keep them in jail once they
prove then they're not really fit for the rest of society. Well,

(01:50:56):
good luck Cincinnati. Again, it's not democrats. It's not the
pigmentation of their skin of those who are in charge.
It's the confidence level, and it seems to be sorely
lacking in the city of Cincinnati and elsewhere around the country.
We'll take a break and come back. Thomas Massey joins
us after eight o'clock here on fifty five KRC the

(01:51:18):
talk station. Confused, happens fast, stay up to date at
the top of the hour.

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
Not going to be complicated.

Speaker 4 (01:51:24):
It's going to go very fast.

Speaker 1 (01:51:26):
Fifty five KRZ the talk station. This report is sponsible
for eight oh five on a Wednesday morning, Robert Plants birthday.
Among other things, they saw this twentieth Gary jamp in
for Brian Thomas, and I am honored that my congressman

(01:51:46):
a man I have voted for multiple times for his
seat in the fourth district in Kentucky and our United
States House of Representatives, would take valuable vacation time away
from himself to talk to me on my guest host
appearance and for Brian this morning, that's right. None other

(01:52:08):
then frequent guest on Brian's show, and I don't get
that many opportunities. So I'm thankful again for Thomas Massey
being available this morning for a few minutes. Good morning,
Congressman Massey. How are you.

Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
I'm doing well, Gary, Jeff, how are you doing. I'm
going to be on better behavior than I am with
Brian Thomas, since you're one of my seven hundred and
fifty thousand bosses in northern Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (01:52:32):
See, this is the thing. Well, Brian is not a
constituent inasmuch that he doesn't live in the district I do,
and I don't necessarily think you have to be on
great behavior because I've talked to you enough and been
around enough to know that you're You're my kind of guy. Generally,

(01:52:53):
when it comes to somebody who's working for me in Washington,
I know that we're gonna focus not solely but first
and foremost on the Epstein Files Transparency Act and the
work you're doing on it to try and get this
pushed through the Congress. So tell me what the bill

(01:53:17):
says or what the act will say, and tell me
what you're trying to accomplish with this, Thomas.

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
Sure, we're trying to get a full release of all
of the files. And by the way, it's just this
week that the DOJ admitted that they've got hundreds of files.
Until this week they were saying there's nothing there but
pornography and underage pornography and you wouldn't want to see it,
and so we're not going to release any of it.

(01:53:43):
But the reality is, we know there's a lot of
other types of evidence, documents, things like that, and the
dj just admitted that they exist and they're going to
it sounds like they're going to release some of them
in drips and drabs. But that's not good enough. There
needs to be full transparency. So I introduced a bipartisan

(01:54:04):
piece of legislation along with a way to force a
vote on it in the House of Representatives so that
it's not just a non binding resolution that never gets
a vote. And what it says is the DOJ has
to release all of these documents, all of their evidence.
It doesn't run a foul of the issue that the

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President had when he asked the grand jury to release transcripts.
We're not requiring a grand jury to release transcripts. We're
requiring the DOJ to release the material that they use
to prepare their cases and maybe material that they declined
to prosecute from. And there's a procedure in the House

(01:54:49):
called a discharge petition. If you can get two hundred
and eighteen people to sign a document, that's half plus one.

Speaker 4 (01:54:55):
Of the House.

Speaker 2 (01:54:56):
If you can get two hundred and eighteen signatures, you
can force a vote on a b bill in the
House of Representatives. Now, it takes a few days. It
takes seven days before you can start collecting signatures. So
what happened is they send us on recess six days
before I was able to collect signatures, hoping that this

(01:55:17):
whole issue would dissipate over the August recess. But as
soon as we come back, my co sponsor and I
my lead co sponsor. By the way, I've got over
forty co sponsors for this legislation. Many of them are Republicans,
when I come back. We are going to hold a
press conference on September third, right in front of the

(01:55:39):
Capitol steps with survivors of Epstein's sex ring. And at
that point it's going to be hard for the people
in DC who want to sweep this under the rug
to say that this is a hoax, because it's not
a hoax if there are victims, there's been a crime,

(01:56:01):
and if the perpetrators haven't been prosecuted, what's going on.
And then it's also going to be hard for them
to say, well, the Congressman Mascy is putting these survivors
at risk by asking for the dissemination of the Epstein files. Well,
the reality is our document protects the survivors by keeping

(01:56:23):
their names out of it unless they want to go public,
which these survivors are going public, and the survivors want
the legislation to pass, so they can't say, you know,
Massy's going against the survivors by doing this. I think
it's important Gary.

Speaker 4 (01:56:39):
Jeff to.

Speaker 2 (01:56:42):
Prosecute the people who were also involved in this sex
trafficking ring because it's implematic of the promise that was
made by the President's vice president, the ag, the FBI,
director and Trump got elected, that these people who've been

(01:57:02):
outside of the justice system, they're so rich and powerful,
they've paid off witnesses, they've paid off judges. It's the
promise was that those people would be brought back into
the justice system and that the victims would get justice
and we would get transparency. So that's why I'm forcing
this issue in Congress.

Speaker 1 (01:57:21):
You know what's amazing, Thomas, is that the Democrats, we're
mostly Democrats, who are screaming that President Trump is hiding
something by not releasing all these files, or his Department
of Justice did nothing about revealing this information when they

(01:57:42):
were in charge of the Justice Department. And I also
I don't believe, as some have claimed, that President Trump
personally is sweeping this under the rug to save himself.
I've had a suspicion all along when they did not

(01:58:03):
fulfill those campaign promises regarding the Epstein files, is that
it maybe had something to do with national security or
leverage being used against those that may be named in
these files internationally. What do you think about that explanation?

Speaker 2 (01:58:22):
Well, I think you're right. First of all, let me
address the Democrats. They're not completely sincere in this effort
at the moment, but if they'll vote for it, we'll
take their votes. There are some who are sincere. My
co sponsor Rocanna was requesting that these files be released
even when Joe Biden was president, and by the way,
I was too. You can go back and find my

(01:58:45):
This isn't a new topic for me. But we'll I'll
need their votes to get to to eighteen because there
are some Republicans who are falling in line, and when
the President did a one to eighty on this, they
did a one on this and decided that they didn't
want to and that includes Speaker Mike Johnson, which is

(01:59:05):
why I have to do this discharge petition. Now. I
agree with you Gary, jeff I think the President is
not particularly implicated in this. I don't think he's done
anything wrong to the extent there might be something embarrassing
in there. He's already got the antibodies. I mean, he's
been through so much with the Stormy Daniel's issue, Like

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nobody's going to turn on the President if there's something
embarrassing in there. I think the hesitancy to release these
files now comes from two sources. Number One, I do
believe Jeffrey Epstein was an agent of a foreign intelligence
and our domestic intelligence believe that. Yeah, but you know

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for both both countries, not the country as opposed to
each other, but for both countries. And I do believe.
I don't don't even have to believe.

Speaker 8 (02:00:01):
I know.

Speaker 2 (02:00:01):
There are people who are going to be embarrassed who
went to Epstein Island. Maybe they didn't do anything wrong,
but they want their name out of the public. And
here's the interesting thing. There are three billionaires right now
running ads against me in Kentucky's fourth district. One of
those billionaires is in Epstein's black book. John Paulson is

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his name. Now, that doesn't mean he's guilty, but it
does mean that Epstein had his own number, his cell number,
and whatnot, the ways of contacting, probably did contacting, probably
was in contact with him. And those are the kind
of people that are going to be embarrassed, and that
gives them a motive to see me fail in this

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effort and to work against me by running those negative ads.

Speaker 1 (02:00:52):
Uh. You know what, this is a good place for
us to take a quick break, if you will allow
me a little bit more of your vacation to talk
about this.

Speaker 2 (02:01:00):
Absopletely. I'm supposed to call this the district work period,
not recess.

Speaker 1 (02:01:06):
Well, well more on the playground at recess with Congressman
Thomas Massey after the break, It's eight fifteen on fifty
five KRCV Tuck Station.

Speaker 2 (02:01:17):
You'll feel.

Speaker 1 (02:01:20):
At eight eighteen. Our conversation with Congressman Thomas Massey continues
this morning, and Thomas, we'll get back to the Epstein
Files Transparency Act. You mentioned one of the billionaires that
is running money against you. We've seen the ads on
television that still have not cessated at this point, basically

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against you making another run for the House next year.
In twenty twenty six, there was a perception among some
that you are against President Trump's agenda because you voted
against the Big Beautiful Bill famously, and that has drawn,

(02:02:07):
of course, the President's hire and the Speaker's hire at
you not getting in line and voting for trillions more
in debt. Have you had conversations with the President about this?
I have talked with the President.

Speaker 2 (02:02:24):
Here's what's interesting about the Big I'm going to call
it the Big Ugly Bill. It contains two of my bills.
Inside of it. I have a bill to have no
tax on tips, and I've had a bill since the
year I entered Congress to not tax Social Security when
you retire. And there are watered down elements of those

(02:02:48):
bills in the Big Ugly Bill, and I support even
the water down versions of my bill that they put
in the Big Beautiful Bill. Also caned in the Big
Beautiful Bill is a or Big Ugly Bill is a
renewal of the twenty seventeen tax cuts. They can't say
I'm against those tax cuts because I voted for those

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tax cuts in twenty seventeen, but they weren't part of
this giant omnibus bill that increases spending so dramatically in
the next three years and doesn't really cut spending. All
of the cuts in this in the Big Bill are
not They're not going to happen. Most of them will
never happen. They're supposed to happen in years four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,

(02:03:32):
and ten. The reality is they're going to do these
tax cuts up front and spending increases up front, and
they are going to blow the deficit in the next
three years. It's going to add hundreds of billions to
a deficit that's already roughly two trillion dollars, okay, And

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what's to happen is they're promising that in the fourth year,
by the way, after the president's left, after half of
my colleagues have been unelected or gone on to lobbying
jobs or whatnot, if they're promising that Congress will be
fiscally responsible and make up for the fiscal irresponsibility that's
going to be undertaken in the next three years under

(02:04:16):
this big bill. So I'm not against the agenda. I'm
against the spending part of the agenda, and I think
it's just not going to be good for this country.
I can't look people in Kentucky in the eye and say,
you know what, we can increase spending by hundreds of
billion dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars. We can give

(02:04:37):
you all these brand new tax cuts and it's going
to work out just fine. And here's why. Because what
we're going to have to do the federal government is
going to be monetizing the debt. They're going to be
they run it through the banks so it doesn't look
like monetizing the debt. They lend it to the banks,
They make money out of thin air, the FED does,

(02:04:57):
lends it to the banks, and then the banks by
our that back, so the banks get some profit out
of this. The end result of all that is interest
rates go up and inflation goes up, and those two
things are not good. But that's what this bill is
going to cost.

Speaker 1 (02:05:11):
In your opinion, do you think Jerome Palell should should
cut interest rates right now?

Speaker 2 (02:05:17):
I think Jerome Pal's job should not exist. I don't
think we need a Federal Reserve. This is I mean,
it exists to make all of the big banks profitable,
and it exists to help monetize our debt in this
country so we can have more war and more deficit spending.

(02:05:38):
It's it's caused a devaluation of the dollar. It's created
a situation where young couples, both of them have to work,
and they still can't afford a nice house. So I
wouldn't let the Federal Reserve exist in my perfect world. Now,
can can, and should Jerome Palell cut interest rates? That

(02:06:01):
here's the thing if if he does, it's not clear
that commercial interest rates or consumer interest rates will go down.
You can cut the rate at which the Fed loans
money to the banks. There's no guarantee the banks are
going to lower that rate. And then here's the other thing,
the rate that they charge. Here's the other thing. The

(02:06:24):
rate is ultimately for long term you know, debt gated
by whatever the US government is paying for long term debts.
And if your own power cuts rates, that's great. But
you know, these countries that buy our debt are right
now demanding almost five percent interest because they and that's

(02:06:46):
what sets rates for long term things. And that's a
problem because if we try to lower the debt, the
interest that we pay on our treasure notes to let's
say three percent, nobody's going to buy it. I won't
buy it. They already won't buy it at four percent,

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So if you try to get it's not going to work.

Speaker 1 (02:07:11):
Let me ask, I'm just running up against the clock here,
one more thing, maybe in one minute. What is your
opinion of the President's efforts in diplomacy that got seven
Western European leaders and Zelenski and Vladimir Putin all within
seventy two hours, and to get them to come to
the White House, or this effort towards peace in Ukraine.

Speaker 2 (02:07:35):
This is one of the best things ever and the
President deserves so much credit for this. If he can
end this war in Ukraine, which we helped foment by
twenty fourteen, overthrowing their government with State Department and CIA stuff.
If he can end this war, that would be tremendous.

(02:07:57):
That would be one of his greatest accomplishments. In my
hats off to him for taking on the slings and
arrows of the media and everybody who's criticizing him on this,
because I believe he's doing the right thing here.

Speaker 1 (02:08:09):
It's the Epstein Files Transparency Act, introduced to co sponsored
by Congressman Thomas Massey. Let's finally get the information out
so the victims of Jeffrey Epstein and his organization can
have justice. Thomas, enjoy what little of your vacation is left,

(02:08:31):
and you and I will talk soon, I'm sure. Okay,
thank you very much since you work for me. Yes,
all right, thank you, sir. All right. Coming up next,
Vickylessandro from Vcasts. Find out what that is. It's such
a cool charity and it's now in the Cincinnati area.

(02:08:53):
It's about helping veterans and helping shelter animals find each
other and find healing. Eight twenty six at fifty five
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bit more sunshine this afternoon in a higher round eighty two.
Partly cloudy, still luggy overnight. In fact, it's humid all

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and the sunshine back on Friday with a high in
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Speaker 1 (02:10:05):
Station, Gary Jeff Benn for Brian Thomas on the morning
show here on fifty five KRC, and I'd like to
welcome in this half hour Vicky Losandro. And you may
know her, you may not, but who is Vicky Losandro? Well,
she is the Cincinnati District director of Visceasts And Vicky,

(02:10:30):
this is such a cool I don't want to call
it a charity. Even though you do take charitable donations,
You're not funded by anybody but the people who are
supporting our veterans. But it's a cause. It's a cause,
and it is just a unique approach to helping our

(02:10:51):
veterans who may be in distress with PTSD or any
other thing that our veterans face that of the average
American citizen does not necessarily face. I mean, we all
face issues and hurdles and tragedies and triumphs in our lives,
and some people have PTSD without ever serving in our military.

(02:11:15):
But this is specifically for veterans. So good morning, number one.
How are you?

Speaker 14 (02:11:23):
I'm fine? Thank you very much for having me on
getting the word out there about v COOS.

Speaker 1 (02:11:30):
Now, VICS stands for for people who don't know, tell
me what the.

Speaker 14 (02:11:38):
It stands for.

Speaker 4 (02:11:38):
Veterans.

Speaker 14 (02:11:39):
Companion Animal Services YEP, very simple and yeah, yeah, and
the name kind of explains what we do. We are
providing companion animals to veterans who, as you mentioned, are
dealing with PTSD, anxiety, depression, loneliness. We've definitely there's a

(02:12:02):
lot of research out there about how an animal can
affect your well being basically, and we've you know, we've
got testimony from vets who received animals that it's basically
kind of brought them back from a very dark place
I having this companion with.

Speaker 1 (02:12:23):
Them, well as somebody who has had animals most of
my adult life and never having served in the military
or being a veteran, you know, animals have such a
calming effect from time to time. They give you a
sense of purpose. They provide a foundation when you feel
like the rest of your material life in this world

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is kind of shaky. Animals give you a grounding kind
of sense of self, whether you're a veteran or not.
And you know, I was thinking about this, Vicky. All
the people who have their animals, whether it be a
dog or cat or anything else certified as support animals,

(02:13:09):
there are people who will not get on, will not
get on an airplane without their support animal pooch with them,
and then you focus the light and the attention onto
our veterans. There is some good news and bad news
about our veterans. And the good news is that in

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many age groups, the veterans suicide rate is actually down
over the last couple of years, after a peak of
justin thirty four point seven out of one hundred thousand
veterans were committing suicide on a regular basis. And yeah,

(02:13:52):
the overall numbers have ticked up by one point six percent.
There are some age groups, like I said, female veterans
and others eighteen to thirty four, it's down slightly, but
it really brings into focus why we need to pay
attention to our veterans and their special mental psychological needs.

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And when animals and anybody that owns an animal, VICKI
will tell you that they agree with me. They provide
a sense of belonging and a sense of purpose and
a reason to get up every day. So imagine the
vet veteran that's got PTSD or has some other war

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wounds that aren't visible. Imagine how beneficial that that new
animal provided by VCAS could be for.

Speaker 2 (02:14:55):
Them, Right right.

Speaker 14 (02:14:58):
I mean, we have very aging population of veterans who
are still dealing with a lot of the mental issues
and the depression and things like that from when they
were serving.

Speaker 2 (02:15:14):
And now they are.

Speaker 14 (02:15:16):
Older and their kids are grown and.

Speaker 4 (02:15:17):
Gone, and possibly their spouse has.

Speaker 2 (02:15:19):
Died, and they are very.

Speaker 14 (02:15:25):
Lonely, very anxious to kind of be alone and.

Speaker 2 (02:15:31):
Say that they really.

Speaker 14 (02:15:32):
Don't have a reason to kind of go out anymore.
And they get a dog, someonet, a black dog, someonant
a dog that's going to force them to get up
and go outside and take a walk and go to
the park and things like that, and it, just like
you said, it gives them a purpose to get up
every day. It gives them somebody that's relying on them

(02:15:53):
now for their well being. And you know we say
that we rescue dogs to rescue x. They both are
are kind of rescuing each other's point from the shelters.

Speaker 1 (02:16:06):
That's a great point and I wanted you to emphasize
that to Vicky Lesandro from VCAS this morning. You're actually
not only saving veterans, but you're saving dogs who are
in animal shelters who don't have a home, right right, right, So.

Speaker 14 (02:16:23):
All of our dogs are coming from shelters, some.

Speaker 2 (02:16:26):
Of them.

Speaker 14 (02:16:28):
A lot of our shelters in town anymore. When they
get a dog in, the dog instantly goes into foster care.
So a lot of the dogs are in foster care
while they're waiting to be adopted, which to me, I
think is much better having them in a friendly setting
than sitting in a shelter. But it gives us an

(02:16:49):
opportunity to take them out of that shelter setting where
they're going to be anxious and you know, depressed in
everything else, and kind of see them and be able
to look at their their mood and how they are
with family members and with kids and possibly other animals,
and evaluate all that before we give it to a
veteran who ends up with a dog that is adding.

Speaker 4 (02:17:12):
More stress to their life.

Speaker 1 (02:17:14):
Let's talk about its. Go ahead, please, I'm sorry.

Speaker 14 (02:17:18):
The veterans just in the process the whole way through
and has an opportunity at any point to say I
don't think that dog's for me, and then we will
start over and work with to find the dog that
is the dog for them.

Speaker 1 (02:17:33):
When we come back, I want to talk to you
about another thing that VCAST is doing in relation to
this adoption of shelter animals for veterans who need this
support greatly. And it's all the setting up of putting

(02:17:54):
a shelter dog in a veterans home. And again, VCAST
is entirely, entirely funded by donations, No public funds, taxpayer
funds are contributed to this. It started in Columbus, correct,
in Ohio?

Speaker 10 (02:18:14):
Correct?

Speaker 8 (02:18:15):
Right?

Speaker 14 (02:18:15):
They placed their first.

Speaker 1 (02:18:16):
SOL in twenty eighteen, and you guys just started the
Cincinnati chapter or rolled out the Cincinnati chapter in July,
the first time I had a chance to talk to
you and your director from Columbus. When we come back,
the other elements of this veterans getting help and shelter

(02:18:39):
animals getting help, and the community that is facilitating that.
That community is VCASS Veteran Companion Animals Services, Right right, Okay,
very good. Vickilesandro is our guest, and we will return
in moments. Well actually we'll be right here, but after

(02:19:01):
the commercials will come back and talk more with a
Vicky about some upcoming events that they have planned on
fifty five KRC, the talk station. This summer isn't just hot.
Once again, we are talking with Vicky Lesandro, the Cincinnati,
Director of VCAST Veteran Companion Animal Services. It's really a

(02:19:22):
unique cause and it's so cool. I think as an
animal lover and as a person who appreciates our veterans
the way you probably do now, VICKI. Before the dog
is permanently placed into a veterans home, the veteran undergoes

(02:19:43):
training too and how to care for the dog.

Speaker 14 (02:19:45):
Is that correct, Well, it doesn't happen before. It's once
they actually get the dogs. Then we go through seven
weeks of free training to the veteran an hour a
week for seven weeks, so that the veteran knows how
to properly take care of the dog, but the dog
learns that the veteran is his person, even if there's

(02:20:06):
other people in the family. We want that bond between
just the two of them, and so and veterans they
don't have to go through the training, but basically everybody
wants to do that, so we do offer that. Also
for veterans who have their own dog. They didn't get
some decos, but feel that they need to get some

(02:20:30):
training for their dogs, so we offer them the free training.

Speaker 1 (02:20:32):
Also, listen, I have been in situations with a new
dog a puppy and the training sometimes is very comprehensive
and it's not cheap, right right, But it's important for
people who are not dog whisperers naturally. The other thing

(02:20:53):
that VCAST does is you guys provide food and medical
care for the first year. Is that right, right?

Speaker 14 (02:21:04):
So from the time that the applicant the vetsine, fills
out an application, we take over the cost of the dog.
From that point on.

Speaker 4 (02:21:12):
For the first year.

Speaker 14 (02:21:14):
It includes the adoption fees, the registrations, the licenses. We
then provide a basket. Usually the day before the dog arrives.

Speaker 12 (02:21:26):
We have a thing delivered that has bed, leashes, bowls, toys, snacks,
everything that they possibly If they want to crate train
their dog, we give them a crate so everything that
they need for that dog is covered.

Speaker 14 (02:21:44):
And then when they're running low on food or treats,
or their dog has just ripped those storys to dreads,
they call us. We have a contract with Chewy. We
call up Chewi have it delivered straight to their house
for that first year. If they have goed the VET,
all the medical bills are covered. If the dog's on medicine,
we cover all the medicine, so there should be no

(02:22:05):
cost at all to the veteran for the first year,
and then after that they take.

Speaker 1 (02:22:10):
Over the call. Sure, but you're giving them a year's
head start. And believe me right, animals aren't cheap. Even
my little even my little cat, Frankie, the wonder cat,
the squeaky kitten that we have, I've never seen. I've
never seen a cat use the bathroom that much. I

(02:22:30):
got to go buy more pellets today after the show. Anyway,
This coming Saturday is Veterans Appreciation Day at Sawyer Park.
They're expecting around four thousand veterans and family members. Lots
of activities from two until ten o'clock. And you guys
will be there. Tell me a little bit about that.

(02:22:53):
We will.

Speaker 14 (02:22:53):
There will be one hundred vendors there from two to six.
Will be kind of the vendor fair, and it is
any service that is offered to veterans in Cincinnati will
have a booth there to help with medical claims, to
help them get into the system. Some veterans don't have
a clue how to kind of get into the system,

(02:23:14):
so they will be there to help them with that,
to help with housing, with any kind of healthcare. We
will be there letting them know.

Speaker 2 (02:23:22):
About our service.

Speaker 14 (02:23:24):
And then from six o'clock to ten o'clock it will
be games.

Speaker 4 (02:23:29):
Music.

Speaker 14 (02:23:29):
They're having the menus play oh Wow. Every two hours
there'll be another band come out and play, lots of games,
lots of food, trucks, you know, just about anything that
the family can do for fun. And it will all
end with a fireworks show about nine.

Speaker 1 (02:23:49):
Point thirty, all right, and it's all free, of course,
so you're talking free. It's all free this Saturday, starting
at two in the afternoon until ten o'clock at night.
Now Yes, Vcasts also has a table set up in
the lobby of the VA Medical Center. Every second Thursday
of the month, veterans can get more information about a

(02:24:10):
dog placement, sign up for a free dog training of
their own dogs, even as you mentioned, even if they
didn't get a dog from you guys, and learn about
upcoming events. And then on September third, tell me about
what's happening at September third.

Speaker 14 (02:24:27):
On September, the first Wednesday, I think it is of
every month, this three CDC holds a yappie hour down
at Washington Park where anybody can come bring their dogs,
you know, it's a big social event for dog lovers and.

Speaker 10 (02:24:45):
People to come.

Speaker 14 (02:24:45):
They have the bar area there you can you know,
have a cocktail and just socialize with other dog lovers.
So it's a great place to go and meet people
that love dog and hopefully love veterans and that they
want to support us, or they know a veteran who's
in need of a dog. And just one more way

(02:25:08):
for us to reach out to the community.

Speaker 1 (02:25:10):
And it's the first one is coming up that you
guys will be a part of is September third, correct,
right from six to eight at Washington Park. Okay, how
do people help? If they believe this is a great
cause and a great charity and you exist solely on
those funds, how can people find out more? How can

(02:25:32):
they contribute and help in your efforts.

Speaker 14 (02:25:36):
They can go to v cos vcas charity dot org
and that is our main website, and there is a
donate page. There's a page to sign up if you're
interested in volunteering with us, if you want to be
a foster family. We're desperately in need of building a
group of foster families that when we get dogs that

(02:25:59):
are in a shelter, situation. We can have some foster
families that can foster them for only two to four
weeks before they go to the veteran so kind of
is a bridge all of those Yeah, yeah, yes, all right,
and those are the things we need.

Speaker 1 (02:26:15):
This coming Saturday, v COS charity dot org VCAS charity
dot org is the address again online and this coming
Saturday Veterans Appreciation Day at Sawyer Point from two till
ten o'clock. People can find out more right there at
sow Your Point. You guys will have a table there

(02:26:36):
set up with the other vendors. And I really appreciate
your time this morning, VICKI okay, well.

Speaker 14 (02:26:41):
I definitely appreciate you, you know, getting the word out
to the community.

Speaker 2 (02:26:45):
So thank you so much, you bet you.

Speaker 1 (02:26:47):
Thank you so much. Vicky Lesandro from vcast again VCAS
charity dot org. If you think it's a good idea,
and I think it's a great idea. I love animals
and I love veterans, don't you back in a moment
on fifty five KRS the talk station, Hey Brian Thomas,
kanks to Joe Strucker, and thanks to Brian Thomas for

(02:27:11):
taking the day off and letting me earn a little
bit of a payday here in the middle of the
week with you. On fifty five KRS, the Talk Station
wanted to thank our guest Vicky Lessandra, who you just
heard from VCAS. I just think it's a wonderful charity.
It's great for veterans, it's great for shelter dogs, and
you heard the whole story and if you believe in
something like that, they do again rely solely on donations

(02:27:35):
from people like you who love our veterans and love animals.
So there you go. Also thanks to jud Dunning from
Newsmax who was with us earlier today. He's a brilliant guy.
And Robert Tannenbaum who recounted that day in Dallas Lee
Harvey Oswald did not kill JFK. So he says, Brian,

(02:27:59):
back with you tomorrow, and you never know when when
I might rear my ugly head again. It's great to
be with you and enjoy the rest of the day.
Glenn Beck on the way next. On fifty five KRC,
the Talk Station.

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