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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Johnaine with the forecast time you got a partly cloudy
day to day eighty six for the high, down to
sixty seven over a nine with just a few clouds.
Eighty eight are high tomorrow, n your Sunday sky clear
and sixty eight overnight in a hot one on Saturday,
ninety degrees the high dry day though, seventy Right now
time for traffic.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
From the UCL Traffic Center.
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Speaker 2 (00:44):
Fifty five krs. The talk station, it's.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
A thirty here fifty five krc detalk station. Always look
forward to Thursdays at this time because we get iHeartMedia
aviation experts Jay ratlifts updates and information on what's going
on in the world of air traffic and aviation generally speaking,
and goofy things that happen. Welcome back, Jay Ratliff. Love
having you on the show. I love the goofy things
we talk about right now.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
It's the best part.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
And this isn't intend to be a curveball recognizing you.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Oh yeah, Hair comes, No, I know, yeah yeah, Joe
Warren me here comes.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Southwest Airlines, one of your topics, had a council more
than seven hundred flights due to weather, which I understand,
but ongoing computer issues. And I woke up this morning
and saw this article. United Airlines temporarily grounded all of
its mainline flights yesterday due to a technical issue, although
the articles from Fox nineteen that I read rather sketchy
(01:39):
on the details.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Do you know why?
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I mean all of their flights?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yes, it was a ground stop and anything that hadn't
taken off wasn't going to take off. And that we
have this happen every so often. Of course, Southwest has
had their computer issues before in the past that happened
at the worst possible time around Christmas. You've had United,
even Delta and others that have had these issues with
their computer systems, and you just hope that they crash
(02:04):
may not be the appropriate word, but that they malfunction
in May or September, because those are the two slowest
travel months of the year.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
But they don't.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It's like the car conks out on us at the
most critical time we need it.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
And it's the same sort of situation.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Here and with United when they ground their fleet, and
even for a short period of time, the residual impact
on that it goes for days and it could be
Monday or Tuesday before everybody's going to get to where
they're going. Because when you're talking about this time of
the year, when most of the flights are filled or
at capacity or close to it, you have ten thousand
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people that maybe got are on canceled flights. Where are
you going to put them? I mean, it just it
makes it so problematic. And that's one of the reasons
that I tell people when they reach out to me
when they're having and experiencing these kinds of flight interruption issues,
to help out the agent as much as you can.
You know, Sherry, I've been in specific cities trying to
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get home, and I tell the agent, get us to
any airport in Ohio, any airport I will drive from
from Cleveland to I don't care because you know, coming
into Cincinnati or Dayton, perhaps the flights are filled. And
if I can give them the option of you know,
four or five different airports, it really enhances our chances
of getting home. Now, look, I've got to pay for
the rental car to get us back, so I make
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sure that that's available first. But if that's the case, point,
I mean, if you can help the agent out. Sometimes
it means the difference between a day or two and
getting home or getting to your destination.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well, and I always consider the time value of money.
You know, if I'm going to sit around an airport
for four or five six hours and I have to
pay a few hundred dollars for the car, I'm going
with the car I want home. I'm not going to
piddle around in an airport or spend a night in
a hotel room just to take advantage of getting flown home.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Well, I tell people all the time to go as
far as you can, as fast as you can, because
I've seen people say, now I'll just wait for that
next flight four hours from now, and then that flight
cancels four hours. Lord, So now you're spending the night
until the next day, and you're kicking yourself. And that's
why if I can get out of town now, I'm
going to do it, and I'll go as far as
I can, as fast as I can, because you simply know,
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especially as the day progresses, because once we get into
the early afternoon evening hours, when a lot of these
previously delayed flights really start to become more of an issue,
problems tend to get worse versus better. And that's why
you know, I love flying early in the day, getting
out on that originating flight if I can.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
That's my personal preference, all right.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
So at least in so far as United shut down
and the Southwest Airlines shutdown, none of this relates to
the shall we say safety on the aircraft itself. It's
all external reservations and computer issues in terms of booking
and getting people on the flights.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Right, right, it would be a lot like you if
you have let's just transportation wise, Let's say you've got
a truck full of cargo ready to go, but they
don't have the paperwork they need to leave, right, that's it.
Everything's working fine, they just don't have what they need
to begin the journey, and that's that's what takes place there.
I've been through more than a few of the computer
issues where we had problems with the weather release, flight
(05:07):
release or something else that needed to be generated from
a waiting ballot standpoint that slowed things down operationally. And
it's tough, but it's it's nothing that relates to safety.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, I was trying to envision that ripple effect when
you're shutting.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Down all this air. Oh yeah, it's got either ing here.
Oh not what you want.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Eight thirty five ify five cares of the dog station.
Don't vape on an airplane apparently that and more coming
up with Jay Rattler.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
I'll be right back fifty five KRC.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
We all remember time for the Channe nine weather forecasts.
Got a partly Cudi downer hands today, eighty six for
the high down to sixty seventy nine, which is a
few clowns. Eighty eight under sunny skins tomorrow clear and
sixty eight overnight and high of ninety on Saturday, dry day,
it'll be seventy one right now.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Time for traffic. I think.
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bit from two to seventy five westbound two seventy five
are wrecked on the left shoulder before you got towards corner.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Shock Kingram on fifty five KRSS the talk station.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Have you ever been in a cockpit before?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Jay Ratliffe has a thirty eight on a Thursday talking
aviation news with I heard needy aviation expert Jay ratleft
and don't vape on an airplane. I guess Jay a
lesson to be learned here.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Well, yeah, probably because I don't know a felony and
they talk about it all the time before departing. No
smoking in the laboratories, no vapingh There was a gentleman
on an American Airlines flight went to the laboratory, thought
he and that really didn't apply to me, So he
starts vaping, and unbeknownst to him that the alarm in
the cockpit goes off, indicating that you know, somebody's doing
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what they're not supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
They got VAT detectors, they have VAIT detectors in the bathrooms, They've.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Got all kinds of stuff visuals there. Well, you want
to know if somebody's smoking, and the alarms are set
up for a reason, because if a fire breaks out,
it's your toast. I mean, you can't get the airplane
on ground fast enough. So what ends up taking place
is the flight tens go and they open up the
(07:27):
door and there he is sitting in vaping.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Well, you don't have the right to open up the
door on me.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
And he went on to proclaim that he was important.
He had twenty five thousand followers. Brian, I mean that
makes him. I think he's in at least the top
five five million people.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Yeah, you know who I am. That's it, brother.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
And then he goes on to say, and I love this.
He says, I have a lawyer, I'm a lawyer. Blah
blah blah blah blah. This is when the police are
boarding and he says justice is about to be served.
That I think was one of his last Yeah, yeah,
he's right. Justice is about to be served and your
butt is going away.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Now. I don't know if you'll be charged with a felony.
He should be.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
He will never be a lot of the fly in
American airlines. I get that you'll face a pretty good
fine from the Federal Aviation Administration, but it's just one
of those reminders that you just don't do stuff that's
going to get you in trouble. Now's if it's a
severe enough infraction, they could actually divert the plane to
another location in land to get you off the airplane,
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and that inconveniences you and does a lot of things.
I think it opens you up to a lot of
civil suits that people want to sue you for what
you caused to happen to their flight that has been
missing certain things in their life, business meetings, funerals.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Those types of things.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
So but again, you know, this type of stuff happens,
and when you recognize maybe two to three million people
a day that fly, I think statistically we should be
we don't have these things happen more often because when
they do happen, social media makes it clear of who's
doing what And yeah, this guy was trying to play
the victim card and I don't think it's gonna work.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Wow, well I learned something today. There's no other vape
detectors in bathrooms on airlines.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I've always viewed vaping as fairly inocuous compared to actually smoking.
You got to have fire or smoke. The smell is
obviously much much greater with smoke. The smoke actually clings
to the surface of your clothes, and you reclect cigarettes,
and I get all that, but vaping it's I mean,
I've sat next to people who have vaped and you
can barely even smell the whatever flavor it is they're vaping.
(09:38):
Let alone have any concerns like secondhand smoke concerns. I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Just well, sometimes when you are vaping and smoking, sometimes
the smell to somebody like me could seem the same,
so it would be you know, and again I'm no
expert on it, But the point is we've had some
very bad things happen in the history of aviation when
people have been smoking on board aircraft when they we're
supposed to and to dispose of the evidence, they throw
(10:03):
the uh you know the quote extinguished cigarette into the
trash can fully you find out it's not extinguished and
it catches on fire.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
So yeah, it's these are.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
The types of things that you have to make sure
that you take as seriously as you need to, because
you know, there's a lot of serious consequences when things
go bad.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, I hear you there, and you know, I understand
combustibility and the idea that smoking is far more dangerous,
But if it's the smell then becomes the issue because
of vaping. Are we going to have like shower requirements
and deodorant requirements for people to get on airplanes?
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Jay Bright, I've had to tell people they couldn't fly
because it's not like they hadn't had a bath.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
In three months.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Oh lord almighty.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
That's that's that's a very delicate conversation that you have
to have. But that is, you know, or you know,
if somebody's acting a certain way, or if they appear
to be under the influence of something I mean these are,
or if they're just rowdy and they're the point where
they're belligerent, you have to pull them off to the
side and explain to them that they're not gonna be
allowed to take this particular.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Flight, but don't worry. We're going to get you on
another one.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
We'll take care of you, and then even by launch
to cand of help you kill time. But it's the
airlines have the right to deny boarding to us for
a variety of reasons, if somebody's not wearing enough clothing,
or somebody's wearing offensive clothing. I agreed some of this
is subjective, but when you try to figure out what's
going to be in the best interest of the people
that are flying, you can't, you know, prohibit every single
(11:29):
piece of offensive material. But it went so bad that
during the Clinton Trump stuff that sometimes people that were
wearing a Trump shirt with some airlines that was considered
something that other passengers could find offensive. Now, obviously, if
it's a Trump shirt and he's flipping people off, I
get that. But some of these were just a Trump
(11:50):
shirt that people said that that's offensive, and you talk
about ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
That's how far down that path we went.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Trump derangement syndrome was alive, and well maybe not anymore
very much. So all right, well, let's see if we
can get this other one in before we take a break.
Here of parents leaving on vacation have a passport problem
as a I guess this resulted in a social media
a frenzy. So what's this about you?
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Good lord?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
You know this may be one of those ones. You say, Jay,
you're making this up, but I am not. A family
goes to an airport in Spain.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
They're going on.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Vacation, mom, dad, and at least one child, they may
have had two, I don't know. But the ten year
old had a passport that was expired. He couldn't fly, okay,
so they left him. They left him, they left, they
went on vacation. Yeah, you know, I'm not gonna let
my son's expired passport, Marian interfere.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
With my vacation. These moms, mom, and dad get.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
On the plane, leave, They call a relative to come
pick up their son at the airport, which eventually I
guess they.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Would have done.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Now what kind of meant and I can't call these
people parents? Now, what kind of mentality do you have
when it's okay with you to leave a ten year
old at an international airport? Well, you get to go
on vacation. I mean, because it was clearly the ten
year old's fault that his pastor was expired because you know,
they're all responsible for their own passports. No, it was
(13:11):
clearly mom and Dad's fault, and just yeah, so that's
why it went boom viral immediately, because who most people
don't let their kids go to the bathroom by themselves,
right at maybe ten years of age, But to leave
them alone at an airport when my god, anything could
happen to them, it just yeah. So I don't know
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what sort of legal fallback.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
They're going to have.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
They've got to have something visits, some child family protective
services in order, I would hope.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
So I'm not saying necessarily a firing squad that might
be a little extreme here, but the idea that this
child and who knows what he has.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
To put up with when they're not at airport, oh god, but.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
The thought process of leaving somebody, you know, there are
I have to report on sad, sad, sad stories when
people show up with dogs at airports to find out
they've got to pay extra and they walk away from
the dog and abandon their pet.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
I mean that breaks my heart. Do you do it
to a ten year old? Right?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
And that's why you'll never hear me say those words
I talk about, I've seen it all.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
It's arrogant, it's asinine.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I'll never utter those words because I'll never underestimate how
stupid people can act sometimes, and this is one of
those situations.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Well, inevitably the bar will be lowered even further down
the road someday, Jay carry fintain. It really is more
problems at Boeing? Can it get any worse for Boeing?
That and hub delays coming up next. It's eight forty
six right now. If you've got kerosenetalk.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Station fifty five KRC two years ago, Bobby carp time
one more time with the Chamanine weather forecast, and be
partly cloudy day to day, going up to eighty six
sixty seven, low overnight with just.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
A few clowns, eighty eight tomorrow under sunny skies, clear
night sixty eight and ninety for the high Saturday with
dry conditions seventy one Right now, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
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Speaker 3 (15:03):
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Speaker 2 (15:19):
They're over on the left hand side.
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Traffic slows a bit from two to seventy five westbound
two seventy five are wreck on the west shoulder before
you get to Ward's corner. Chuck Ingram on fifty five
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Speaker 1 (15:34):
It's eight forty nine on a Thursday Tech Friday with
Dave had to tomorrow at six thirty every Friday here
in the morning show appointment listening to that one and
like to think this is a point listening as well
one more sevent here with Iramedia aviation expert Jay Ratliff,
WHOA what more could go wrong? And Boeing Jay, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Well, you know they're facing a work stoppage and this
is from a smaller group is about thirty two hundred
people and they rejected the contract and they're on strike
and they're thinking, okay, well, last year at this time
you and I were talking about a different Boeing strike
that had thirty three thousand people walk off the job
that lasts for seven weeks.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
This is thirty two hundred.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
You're thinking, Wow, the number seems a little bit easier
maybe for Boeing to manage. The problem is that these
are the individuals that work on the defense contract.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Side of things.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Oh and that represents about a third of Boeing's yearly revenue.
So this is a significant group of people. And I'm
really hoping that this doesn't go seven weeks, and I
doubt that it will. But you know, they turned down
a contract that could have given them up to I
think about a forty percent pay increase over time, five
thousand dollars bonus and some other things, and it wasn't
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good enough, and they're looking for something that and this
is really I'd almost say it's one of the last
hurtles that Boeing has from an employee standpoint. But they've
got most everything else in line and they're turning things
around in a very positive way. And certainly we wanted
to continue because this.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Isn't just a Boeing issue.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Boeing has just a tremendous number of support businesses that
they deal with that depend on Boeing that you know,
for supplies, services and things of that. Yeah, and we talked.
It was in April when their stock had dipped down
to that one hundred and thirty four dollars a share
or something. It's up to two twenty five to two
(17:21):
thirty at this point in time because they're doing a
lot of things right. The production of their aircraft is
improving there, they're getting more FAA support on some of
the changes that they're making and some things that need
to take place. But you know, here's another hurdle for
the Boeing management team to cross, and I suspect that
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they're going to handle it pretty well. And again internally
from a management standpoint, they're putting some people in power
that have engineering backgrounds and that thrills me because that's
the Boeing of old and I hope that continues well, so.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Do I I mean, the ripple effect. Wasn't even considering that.
But clearly, these thirty two hundred folks being involved in
military related contracts, they've got a lot of leverage over
Bowing considering the amounts of revenue that is.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Oh yeah, And do you think there might be a
little pressure coming from DC thing get this settled, because
I mean, this is a national defense conversation. Too, when
you're talking about a delay in some of the technology
that we need to keep going. So that's one of
the reasons I think it's going to be a significant
shall we say, Oh, I guess priority for boeing to
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get resolved one way or another. And of course the
people that walk are clearly aware of that, so you know,
we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yes, we will keep the popcorn out on it. And
we always done on hub delays, Jay, why not end
on them today? What's it like to travel out there?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Yeah? I think our problem children of the day are
going to be Charlotte and Miami. Those two hubs I
think could see some weather related delays. I think they're
going to be minimal. I don't think any more about
thirty minutes or so. I mean, you know, all bets
are off. As far as any of the afternoon pop
up storms, it could slow things down, but it's this
point in time, it looks like it's gonna be a
pretty decent day to travel. Still a good bit of
turbulence it's out there, so if you're flying, it's not dangerous,
(19:08):
just keep your seat belt fastened about it's just uncomfortable
as you go through it. It can be a little unnerving,
but believe me, having that seat belt off, kissing the
ceiling is no fun. So please remember to get to
the airport tours before departure, and please keep that seat
belt fastened about you.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, yeah, every time, real quick here, I just have
every time you mentioned keeping the seat belts fastened. I
think of these photographs that I've seen about air travel
of old days when they had like table settings and
real silverware and plates and salt and pepper shakers and
all that out there, that stuff's going everywhere.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Well, we had a delta flight think coming out of Amsterdam.
They had some turbulence where things went everywhere. Those pictures
are online now, so if you google, you know, delta
turbulence and you see the images of the bag carts,
the food wherever. Yeah, looks like I mean, things were
just thrown about.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Injuries from hitting the ceiling and injuries from things hitting you,
especially when the food service is ongoing, because you never
know what's going to happen until you're.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
On top of it, and it can get rough, Yes,
it can.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
I've experienced some really wild turbulence of my limited flying days.
Jay Ratliff, thank you so much for spending time with
listeners with me every Thursday. I truly appreciate enjoying our conversations.
I'm already looking forward to next Thursday, another opportunity to
speak with you, my friend,
Johnaine with the forecast time you got a partly cloudy
day to day eighty six for the high, down to
sixty seven over a nine with just a few clouds.
Eighty eight are high tomorrow, n your Sunday sky clear
and sixty eight overnight in a hot one on Saturday,
ninety degrees the high dry day though, seventy Right now
time for traffic.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
From the UCL Traffic Center.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Nearly sixty percent of Americans waiting on an organ transplant
from multicultural communities give the Gift of life, become an
organ donor or explore living donation at u see health
dot com. Slash transplant crews continue to work with a
wreck on the left shoulder southbound seventy one near Piper.
Traffic is off and on the breaks through Blue Ash
(00:38):
and ken Wood southbound seventy five, heaviest out of Evendale
down to the lateral Ingram on.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Fifty five krs. The talk station, it's.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
A thirty here fifty five krc detalk station. Always look
forward to Thursdays at this time because we get iHeartMedia
aviation experts Jay ratlifts updates and information on what's going
on in the world of air traffic and aviation generally speaking,
and goofy things that happen. Welcome back, Jay Ratliff. Love
having you on the show. I love the goofy things
we talk about right now.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
It's the best part.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
And this isn't intend to be a curveball recognizing you.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Oh yeah, Hair comes, No, I know, yeah yeah, Joe
Warren me here comes.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Southwest Airlines, one of your topics, had a council more
than seven hundred flights due to weather, which I understand,
but ongoing computer issues. And I woke up this morning
and saw this article. United Airlines temporarily grounded all of
its mainline flights yesterday due to a technical issue, although
the articles from Fox nineteen that I read rather sketchy
(01:39):
on the details.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Do you know why?
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I mean all of their flights?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yes, it was a ground stop and anything that hadn't
taken off wasn't going to take off. And that we
have this happen every so often. Of course, Southwest has
had their computer issues before in the past that happened
at the worst possible time around Christmas. You've had United,
even Delta and others that have had these issues with
their computer systems, and you just hope that they crash
(02:04):
may not be the appropriate word, but that they malfunction
in May or September, because those are the two slowest
travel months of the year.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
But they don't.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It's like the car conks out on us at the
most critical time we need it.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
And it's the same sort of situation.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Here and with United when they ground their fleet, and
even for a short period of time, the residual impact
on that it goes for days and it could be
Monday or Tuesday before everybody's going to get to where
they're going. Because when you're talking about this time of
the year, when most of the flights are filled or
at capacity or close to it, you have ten thousand
(02:38):
people that maybe got are on canceled flights. Where are
you going to put them? I mean, it just it
makes it so problematic. And that's one of the reasons
that I tell people when they reach out to me
when they're having and experiencing these kinds of flight interruption issues,
to help out the agent as much as you can.
You know, Sherry, I've been in specific cities trying to
(02:58):
get home, and I tell the agent, get us to
any airport in Ohio, any airport I will drive from
from Cleveland to I don't care because you know, coming
into Cincinnati or Dayton, perhaps the flights are filled. And
if I can give them the option of you know,
four or five different airports, it really enhances our chances
of getting home. Now, look, I've got to pay for
the rental car to get us back, so I make
(03:19):
sure that that's available first. But if that's the case, point,
I mean, if you can help the agent out. Sometimes
it means the difference between a day or two and
getting home or getting to your destination.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well, and I always consider the time value of money.
You know, if I'm going to sit around an airport
for four or five six hours and I have to
pay a few hundred dollars for the car, I'm going
with the car I want home. I'm not going to
piddle around in an airport or spend a night in
a hotel room just to take advantage of getting flown home.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Well, I tell people all the time to go as
far as you can, as fast as you can, because
I've seen people say, now I'll just wait for that
next flight four hours from now, and then that flight
cancels four hours. Lord, So now you're spending the night
until the next day, and you're kicking yourself. And that's
why if I can get out of town now, I'm
going to do it, and I'll go as far as
I can, as fast as I can, because you simply know,
(04:10):
especially as the day progresses, because once we get into
the early afternoon evening hours, when a lot of these
previously delayed flights really start to become more of an issue,
problems tend to get worse versus better. And that's why
you know, I love flying early in the day, getting
out on that originating flight if I can.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
That's my personal preference, all right.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
So at least in so far as United shut down
and the Southwest Airlines shutdown, none of this relates to
the shall we say safety on the aircraft itself. It's
all external reservations and computer issues in terms of booking
and getting people on the flights.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Right, right, it would be a lot like you if
you have let's just transportation wise, Let's say you've got
a truck full of cargo ready to go, but they
don't have the paperwork they need to leave, right, that's it.
Everything's working fine, they just don't have what they need
to begin the journey, and that's that's what takes place there.
I've been through more than a few of the computer
issues where we had problems with the weather release, flight
(05:07):
release or something else that needed to be generated from
a waiting ballot standpoint that slowed things down operationally. And
it's tough, but it's it's nothing that relates to safety.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, I was trying to envision that ripple effect when
you're shutting.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Down all this air. Oh yeah, it's got either ing here.
Oh not what you want.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Eight thirty five ify five cares of the dog station.
Don't vape on an airplane apparently that and more coming
up with Jay Rattler.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
I'll be right back fifty five KRC.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
We all remember time for the Channe nine weather forecasts.
Got a partly Cudi downer hands today, eighty six for
the high down to sixty seventy nine, which is a
few clowns. Eighty eight under sunny skins tomorrow clear and
sixty eight overnight and high of ninety on Saturday, dry day,
it'll be seventy one right now.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Time for traffic. I think.
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Speaker 2 (06:21):
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Speaker 5 (06:25):
Have you ever been in a cockpit before?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Jay Ratliffe has a thirty eight on a Thursday talking
aviation news with I heard needy aviation expert Jay ratleft
and don't vape on an airplane. I guess Jay a
lesson to be learned here.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Well, yeah, probably because I don't know a felony and
they talk about it all the time before departing. No
smoking in the laboratories, no vapingh There was a gentleman
on an American Airlines flight went to the laboratory, thought
he and that really didn't apply to me, So he
starts vaping, and unbeknownst to him that the alarm in
the cockpit goes off, indicating that you know, somebody's doing
(07:01):
what they're not supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
They got VAT detectors, they have VAIT detectors in the bathrooms, They've.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Got all kinds of stuff visuals there. Well, you want
to know if somebody's smoking, and the alarms are set
up for a reason, because if a fire breaks out,
it's your toast. I mean, you can't get the airplane
on ground fast enough. So what ends up taking place
is the flight tens go and they open up the
(07:27):
door and there he is sitting in vaping.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Well, you don't have the right to open up the
door on me.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
And he went on to proclaim that he was important.
He had twenty five thousand followers. Brian, I mean that
makes him. I think he's in at least the top
five five million people.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Yeah, you know who I am. That's it, brother.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
And then he goes on to say, and I love this.
He says, I have a lawyer, I'm a lawyer. Blah
blah blah blah blah. This is when the police are
boarding and he says justice is about to be served.
That I think was one of his last Yeah, yeah,
he's right. Justice is about to be served and your
butt is going away.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Now. I don't know if you'll be charged with a felony.
He should be.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
He will never be a lot of the fly in
American airlines. I get that you'll face a pretty good
fine from the Federal Aviation Administration, but it's just one
of those reminders that you just don't do stuff that's
going to get you in trouble. Now's if it's a
severe enough infraction, they could actually divert the plane to
another location in land to get you off the airplane,
(08:33):
and that inconveniences you and does a lot of things.
I think it opens you up to a lot of
civil suits that people want to sue you for what
you caused to happen to their flight that has been
missing certain things in their life, business meetings, funerals.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Those types of things.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
So but again, you know, this type of stuff happens,
and when you recognize maybe two to three million people
a day that fly, I think statistically we should be
we don't have these things happen more often because when
they do happen, social media makes it clear of who's
doing what And yeah, this guy was trying to play
the victim card and I don't think it's gonna work.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Wow, well I learned something today. There's no other vape
detectors in bathrooms on airlines.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I've always viewed vaping as fairly inocuous compared to actually smoking.
You got to have fire or smoke. The smell is
obviously much much greater with smoke. The smoke actually clings
to the surface of your clothes, and you reclect cigarettes,
and I get all that, but vaping it's I mean,
I've sat next to people who have vaped and you
can barely even smell the whatever flavor it is they're vaping.
(09:38):
Let alone have any concerns like secondhand smoke concerns. I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Just well, sometimes when you are vaping and smoking, sometimes
the smell to somebody like me could seem the same,
so it would be you know, and again I'm no
expert on it, But the point is we've had some
very bad things happen in the history of aviation when
people have been smoking on board aircraft when they we're
supposed to and to dispose of the evidence, they throw
(10:03):
the uh you know the quote extinguished cigarette into the
trash can fully you find out it's not extinguished and
it catches on fire.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
So yeah, it's these are.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
The types of things that you have to make sure
that you take as seriously as you need to, because
you know, there's a lot of serious consequences when things
go bad.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, I hear you there, and you know, I understand
combustibility and the idea that smoking is far more dangerous,
But if it's the smell then becomes the issue because
of vaping. Are we going to have like shower requirements
and deodorant requirements for people to get on airplanes?
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Jay Bright, I've had to tell people they couldn't fly
because it's not like they hadn't had a bath.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
In three months.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Oh lord almighty.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
That's that's that's a very delicate conversation that you have
to have. But that is, you know, or you know,
if somebody's acting a certain way, or if they appear
to be under the influence of something I mean these are,
or if they're just rowdy and they're the point where
they're belligerent, you have to pull them off to the
side and explain to them that they're not gonna be
allowed to take this particular.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Flight, but don't worry. We're going to get you on
another one.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
We'll take care of you, and then even by launch
to cand of help you kill time. But it's the
airlines have the right to deny boarding to us for
a variety of reasons, if somebody's not wearing enough clothing,
or somebody's wearing offensive clothing. I agreed some of this
is subjective, but when you try to figure out what's
going to be in the best interest of the people
that are flying, you can't, you know, prohibit every single
(11:29):
piece of offensive material. But it went so bad that
during the Clinton Trump stuff that sometimes people that were
wearing a Trump shirt with some airlines that was considered
something that other passengers could find offensive. Now, obviously, if
it's a Trump shirt and he's flipping people off, I
get that. But some of these were just a Trump
(11:50):
shirt that people said that that's offensive, and you talk
about ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
That's how far down that path we went.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Trump derangement syndrome was alive, and well maybe not anymore
very much. So all right, well, let's see if we
can get this other one in before we take a break.
Here of parents leaving on vacation have a passport problem
as a I guess this resulted in a social media
a frenzy. So what's this about you?
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Good lord?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
You know this may be one of those ones. You say, Jay,
you're making this up, but I am not. A family
goes to an airport in Spain.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
They're going on.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Vacation, mom, dad, and at least one child, they may
have had two, I don't know. But the ten year
old had a passport that was expired. He couldn't fly, okay,
so they left him. They left him, they left, they
went on vacation. Yeah, you know, I'm not gonna let
my son's expired passport, Marian interfere.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
With my vacation. These moms, mom, and dad get.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
On the plane, leave, They call a relative to come
pick up their son at the airport, which eventually I
guess they.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Would have done.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Now what kind of meant and I can't call these
people parents? Now, what kind of mentality do you have
when it's okay with you to leave a ten year
old at an international airport? Well, you get to go
on vacation. I mean, because it was clearly the ten
year old's fault that his pastor was expired because you know,
they're all responsible for their own passports. No, it was
(13:11):
clearly mom and Dad's fault, and just yeah, so that's
why it went boom viral immediately, because who most people
don't let their kids go to the bathroom by themselves,
right at maybe ten years of age, But to leave
them alone at an airport when my god, anything could
happen to them, it just yeah. So I don't know
(13:33):
what sort of legal fallback.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
They're going to have.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
They've got to have something visits, some child family protective
services in order, I would hope.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
So I'm not saying necessarily a firing squad that might
be a little extreme here, but the idea that this
child and who knows what he has.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
To put up with when they're not at airport, oh god, but.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
The thought process of leaving somebody, you know, there are
I have to report on sad, sad, sad stories when
people show up with dogs at airports to find out
they've got to pay extra and they walk away from
the dog and abandon their pet.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
I mean that breaks my heart. Do you do it
to a ten year old? Right?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
And that's why you'll never hear me say those words
I talk about, I've seen it all.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
It's arrogant, it's asinine.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I'll never utter those words because I'll never underestimate how
stupid people can act sometimes, and this is one of
those situations.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Well, inevitably the bar will be lowered even further down
the road someday, Jay carry fintain. It really is more
problems at Boeing? Can it get any worse for Boeing?
That and hub delays coming up next. It's eight forty
six right now. If you've got kerosenetalk.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Station fifty five KRC two years ago, Bobby carp time
one more time with the Chamanine weather forecast, and be
partly cloudy day to day, going up to eighty six
sixty seven, low overnight with just.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
A few clowns, eighty eight tomorrow under sunny skies, clear
night sixty eight and ninety for the high Saturday with
dry conditions seventy one Right now, what's going on?
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Speaker 3 (15:21):
Traffic slows a bit from two to seventy five westbound
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you get to Ward's corner. Chuck Ingram on fifty five
krs the talk station.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
It's eight forty nine on a Thursday Tech Friday with
Dave had to tomorrow at six thirty every Friday here
in the morning show appointment listening to that one and
like to think this is a point listening as well
one more sevent here with Iramedia aviation expert Jay Ratliff,
WHOA what more could go wrong? And Boeing Jay, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Well, you know they're facing a work stoppage and this
is from a smaller group is about thirty two hundred
people and they rejected the contract and they're on strike
and they're thinking, okay, well, last year at this time
you and I were talking about a different Boeing strike
that had thirty three thousand people walk off the job
that lasts for seven weeks.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
This is thirty two hundred.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
You're thinking, Wow, the number seems a little bit easier
maybe for Boeing to manage. The problem is that these
are the individuals that work on the defense contract.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Side of things.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Oh and that represents about a third of Boeing's yearly revenue.
So this is a significant group of people. And I'm
really hoping that this doesn't go seven weeks, and I
doubt that it will. But you know, they turned down
a contract that could have given them up to I
think about a forty percent pay increase over time, five
thousand dollars bonus and some other things, and it wasn't
(16:44):
good enough, and they're looking for something that and this
is really I'd almost say it's one of the last
hurtles that Boeing has from an employee standpoint. But they've
got most everything else in line and they're turning things
around in a very positive way. And certainly we wanted
to continue because this.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Isn't just a Boeing issue.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Boeing has just a tremendous number of support businesses that
they deal with that depend on Boeing that you know,
for supplies, services and things of that. Yeah, and we talked.
It was in April when their stock had dipped down
to that one hundred and thirty four dollars a share
or something. It's up to two twenty five to two
(17:21):
thirty at this point in time because they're doing a
lot of things right. The production of their aircraft is
improving there, they're getting more FAA support on some of
the changes that they're making and some things that need
to take place. But you know, here's another hurdle for
the Boeing management team to cross, and I suspect that
(17:42):
they're going to handle it pretty well. And again internally
from a management standpoint, they're putting some people in power
that have engineering backgrounds and that thrills me because that's
the Boeing of old and I hope that continues well, so.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Do I I mean, the ripple effect. Wasn't even considering that.
But clearly, these thirty two hundred folks being involved in
military related contracts, they've got a lot of leverage over
Bowing considering the amounts of revenue that is.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Oh yeah, And do you think there might be a
little pressure coming from DC thing get this settled, because
I mean, this is a national defense conversation. Too, when
you're talking about a delay in some of the technology
that we need to keep going. So that's one of
the reasons I think it's going to be a significant
shall we say, Oh, I guess priority for boeing to
(18:32):
get resolved one way or another. And of course the
people that walk are clearly aware of that, so you know,
we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yes, we will keep the popcorn out on it. And
we always done on hub delays, Jay, why not end
on them today? What's it like to travel out there?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Yeah? I think our problem children of the day are
going to be Charlotte and Miami. Those two hubs I
think could see some weather related delays. I think they're
going to be minimal. I don't think any more about
thirty minutes or so. I mean, you know, all bets
are off. As far as any of the afternoon pop
up storms, it could slow things down, but it's this
point in time, it looks like it's gonna be a
pretty decent day to travel. Still a good bit of
turbulence it's out there, so if you're flying, it's not dangerous,
(19:08):
just keep your seat belt fastened about it's just uncomfortable
as you go through it. It can be a little unnerving,
but believe me, having that seat belt off, kissing the
ceiling is no fun. So please remember to get to
the airport tours before departure, and please keep that seat
belt fastened about you.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, yeah, every time, real quick here, I just have
every time you mentioned keeping the seat belts fastened. I
think of these photographs that I've seen about air travel
of old days when they had like table settings and
real silverware and plates and salt and pepper shakers and
all that out there, that stuff's going everywhere.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Well, we had a delta flight think coming out of Amsterdam.
They had some turbulence where things went everywhere. Those pictures
are online now, so if you google, you know, delta
turbulence and you see the images of the bag carts,
the food wherever. Yeah, looks like I mean, things were
just thrown about.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Injuries from hitting the ceiling and injuries from things hitting you,
especially when the food service is ongoing, because you never
know what's going to happen until you're.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
On top of it, and it can get rough, Yes,
it can.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
I've experienced some really wild turbulence of my limited flying days.
Jay Ratliff, thank you so much for spending time with
listeners with me every Thursday. I truly appreciate enjoying our conversations.
I'm already looking forward to next Thursday, another opportunity to
speak with you, my friend,
Brian Thomas News
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