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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Always looking forward to this time of the week and
this day because we get to talk to iHeart media
Aviation next where Jay Ratliff, which I thoroughly enjoy doing
and I hope my listening audience enjoys it as much
as I do. Some really cool topics you got in
this morning on the list here, Jay Ratliffe. I'm going
to go out of order, of course, wildly curious about
the before we get the hub delays, which we always
(00:20):
end on so we know how travel it is out there.
Today it says Boeing has been given permission to increase
production of the seven thirty seven Max aircraft. They need
to seek permission in terms of their output chase. I mean,
I know they do it to themselves sometimes in terms
of delays and backlogs and all that kind of thing.
But who has to give Boeing permission for production of
aircraft numbers?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
The Federal Aviation Administration After the two Boeing Max crashes,
after some of the situations we've had since, the FAA
has said, you guys need to slow it down, and
slow it down now. So they actually capped to the
maximum number of Boeing seven thirty seven Max aircraft that
they could make it to twenty six or something. They
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increased it to thirty eight a month, and now that's
been further increased to forty two a month. So yes, Boeing,
who hasn't made a profit since I think twenty eighteen,
is now allowed and that is the proper word, to
produce as many a s F two aircraft a month
because the FAA had to be convinced that they were
doing things the right way, not using scrap parts that
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shouldn't be used, making sure the production is as it
needs to be, making sure that no more door plugs
fall off of airplanes like we had last year with
your last airline's flight. So and they are convinced that
Boeing is making the necessary corrections, and we'll see. But yes,
Boeing did need to get permission to push more planes
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through the through their production schedule.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well, I'll acknowledge it is a heavily regulated industry and
maybe that's a really good thing considering what they're doing,
But you would never go to a bad part bin
and use one of the parts that's been labeled you know,
non compliant or it doesn't mean our safety let whatever,
it's a unapproved part. You would never use one of
those parts if you had an adequate supply of parts.
(02:12):
Now have they overcome whatever supply shortages that led people
to wander over into the rejected parts bin.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, they've had issues in the past, and Bry, that's
exactly the problem is that some of the supply side things,
because remember Boeing is just hundreds and hundreds of companies
that feed them different parts and services to kind of
keep everything going. And there's been times that they did,
according to the whistleblowers and some confirmed reports, where they
ran out of parts and you were looking at an
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airplane that was going to be stationary in this production
cycle for an extended period of time, and supervisors told
the employees, go find the best failed part that we
can put on this aircraft to keep the airplane moving
through production. And it seems ridiculous, it seems stupid, nasinine,
and it's just unbelieva believe, not safe to use a
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failed part on an aircraft. But that's what they were doing.
And it's just again Boeing tot us five years ago
that they had turned the corner and learned their lessons.
They were not going to be you know, the same company,
and they lie to us. So I'm really hoping this
time around, all of these paragraphs of promise that come
out and all their you know, press releases really mean
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something because before they didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Well, I hope they have a guard posted at the
rejected park closet, because if they haven't solved that problem,
then telling them they can increase the number of airplanes
they can produce on a monthly basis, that doesn't mean
a thing. If you don't have the part, they can't
put the plane together.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Sometimes they have the big red pain on them showing
that they're failed. So so you've got people scrubbing the
red paint. I mean, it's like it's like, you know,
what would go on in Russia with some of the
stuff they do, and the idea that that's going on
here in the United States. And I'm I mean, you
(04:00):
had thirty some whistleblowers come forward saying I can't be
a part of this anymore, right because we're putting the
lives at risk. And you know, thank god, none of
this stuff other than of course, those two horrific plane
crashes with a Boeing Max five years ago, which were
you know, coming up on that anniversary very very soon
here on the first one. But it's just a scary thing.
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And you know, Boeing was told by the FAA five
years ago, we really gave you too much slack, and
we're going to be all over you, And of course
they weren't. So the FAA failed us like Boeing failed us.
And you're just hoping that the two entities that failed
us as a traveling you know, segment of population, that
they're going to both come through for us. And certainly
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we hope that's going to be the case.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Certainly do well for we part company and take a
break here. How about Southwest Airlines new boarding policy? What's
this one about?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Well, they decided that instead of having like Delta's eight
or ten boarding zones and United ten boarding zones or
whatever it is, that they're going to simplify it. They said,
it's a very easy process. All we have to do
is board all the window seat people first, duh, all
the middle seats second, and then the aisle people third,
and we will be able to put people on the airplane.
(05:14):
It's so easy. Why haven't people thought about this before?
Blah blah blah, And it's really going to make the
boarding process much less stressful. Well, note to Southwest, we
have tried that before, and there's a big time problem
because when all of your window seats and all your
middle seat passengers board, they fill up the overhead storage compartments.
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Then you have the ale passengers boarding last. They've paid
more for their ticket than the middle seat people, and
they now have no place to put their bag.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Which is a problem.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So we've had this happen before, so I think we
should start an office pool about how long this is
going to last. But look, Southwest has the best boarding
policy in certain weather locations where they can do it.
They bring people off the front of the airplane while
they're boarding them on the stairs from the rear. And
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when you can do that, it's a great process. You
can turn that silver revenue tube fast. But the problem
is you can't do it in the winter, you can't
do it in bad weather, can't do it in windy weather,
all those things. So it's a perfect weather situation to
do that. But look, for the last seventy years, Airline
has been trying to figure out a way for us
to how can we more quickly put people on the
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airplane and They have tried every single combination that they
can to try to figure out the best way. We'll
board from the back, front, we'll board from the front back,
We'll board all these different ways, and it just creates problems. Look,
when you board from the back of the airplane forward,
you have all these people dropping their carry on bags,
and Row thirteen I learn, Row twenty.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Eight, I know.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So it just regardless of which way we pivot, Brian,
it creates problems on tops of problems. And while yes,
it seems logical to do it XYZ, the problem is
in a real world environment where you're actually there watching
what takes place. When this happens, it doesn't exactly go
as the theories in the office might suggest they would.
(07:10):
At the case. It's like a college professor who has
all the answers, even though they probably never ran a business.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, at the risk of running over too long, real quickly, here,
if you have a signed seating, can't you have a
sign bin?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You could, and I'm surprised they've not done that before.
Now the problem is how you're going to regulate that
because you don't have enough flight attendants to really be
able to do it. And I don't know why they
don't charge us for the overhead bins. If you need
extra room, saying you can have the seat, the space
underneath the seat in front of you, bring a small bag,
no feet, you need the overhead bind pooh, it's gonna
cost you.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
There what it came a couple of sound ideas, Jay
rutlift pausive.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
No, no, no, they've not listened to me along other than
the things they complain about me. That those things they.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Hear stay around assault rifles, emergency landings, dead people and
space degree more with Jay Ratliff coming up right back
fifty five, I have KRC the for month fifty five
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cockpit before, Jay Ratleff has He's ihart meed the aviation expert.
We have the pleasure of talking to Jay Ratliffe every
week at beginning at eight thirty onto section or segment two.
(08:14):
Here Jay Rattliffe sounds like it's a bad IDEA man
with an assault rifle was arrested at the Atlanta Airport.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, this is a forty nine year old from Cartersville, Georgia,
and apparently Brian he had collected to a social Cartersville.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Seriously, Carter, go ahead. I'm sorry to interject with a delight.
I had one of the best experiences of my life.
We are car broke down and when I was in college,
we're on spring break. The car broke down right on
the on ramp to Cartersville, Georgia, and the mayor I
believe he was of Cartersville, was out with his son.
He stopped, he picked us up. There were six of us.
(08:51):
He let us stay at his house. He kicked his
daughter out, he kicked his son out. They went and
stayed at friend's houses. He's his wife fed us all.
This is like midnight on a weekday or something, got
us let us sleep there. No, it was a Saturday,
because I remember we were really worried because Sunday nothing's open.
It was our our and here I am laboring on
(09:11):
about this. Anyway, no fuel. The fuel pump went out,
so we needed to buy a fuel pump really easy
fixed in the van that we were in. So he
ended up getting his buddy, He won the autoparts store
to open up on a Sunday, got us the fuel pump,
got the van fixed. It was It was one of
those renewal of faith in humanity moments in time so
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that I heard carters just could not believe how much
gratitude we had for him, And we ended up sending
him a big fruit basket and a big letter of
thanks to him and his wife. They treated it so wonderfully,
and I've always thought the world of Cartersville just because
of that moment in time.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, I hope you kept in touch with him, thanking
he repeatedly for something like that. That's great, that was great,
And and I love the fact that a story like
this can can can spur a nice memory like that
that can be shared, because yeah, let's hope that encourages
other people. You know, not that you are saying let
strangers into your house and spend the night, but you know,
I get it. That's a great thing because it makes
(10:08):
you think that people. You know, it's kind of like
things used to be. But yeah, this story was a
forty nine year old from that place that posted to
a social media count that he was going to go
to the Atlanta Airport shoot it up, and you had
family members that spotted those social media posts. They notified
the local police, who then notified the Atlanta airport. All
this was in like fifteen minutes. The man was later
(10:31):
spotted walking into the airport. He was unarmed at the time,
and the thought was he was scoping it out. He
had his vehicle right outside the door, had an assault
rifle loaded inside the vehicle. He was approached by law enforcement,
he was questioned and detained and it's currently undergoing a
mental health evaluation. And look, this is a perfect example
of how a lot of these tragedies can be averted
(10:53):
if you just have family and friends that might see something,
hear something, notify authorities and say, look, this is what
we see as far as what may or may not
be going on. And I think the family certainly saved
some lives there. But it's a lot like I tell
people at the airport, if you see unattended bags, or
see somebody acting in a suspicious fashion, immediately pointed out
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to the airport police. And so many people say, well, Jay,
if it's nothing, I said, I don't care. And you'll
never have any law enforcement officer tell you you never
should do this, because when you have two million people
a day flying and you've got two million sets of eyes,
all that does is ratchet up our security. So if
you see something that doesn't look right, even if it's
(11:34):
something where you might suspect that there's child trafficking or
something else going on, you may not be an expert
at that, So notify somebody who is and then they
can determine whether or not there's an issue.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Sounds like common sense and logic to me. Jay Ridley,
All right, American Airlines flight making an emergency landing. Why
this was sky.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
West Light sixty five sixty nine, taken off from Omahall
they're headed for LA. About forty minutes into the flight,
the pilots start hearing a loud banging on the cockpit door. Okay,
so they called for the flight attendants over the intercom.
Flight attendants do not respond. Oh, they said, okay, we've
got a protocol. They immediately declared an inflight emergency for security,
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turned the airplane around, went back to Omaha, and here
come law enforcement. But when they boarded, they found out
that it was the flight attendants knocking on the door
to try to tell them the intercom wasn't working. Whoops. Yeah,
so apparently they didn't have a secret coded knock. It
was us, you know. But look, the pilots, you know,
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because they can't see anything, and it really surprises you
that there's not something in the cockpit that would have
a camera of the door or something. I mean, the
technology is so affordable, even for cheap airlines that that
type of thing should exist right where pilots can look
back and at least at the door and beyond. But
absent of that, they didn't know what was going on,
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and they are taught that door stays shut. You'd land
that airplane, notify law enforcement just in case. And being
in Omaha close to the military base is there. I
don't know if they launched any military intercept that would
be part of the process here if you've got an
aircraft that you suspect maybe in the process of being
taken over. So the crew did exactly what they should
have and when the pilot landed, the captain he told
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his passengers, look, we still don't know what's going on.
Just bear with us. But they aired on the side
of caution, and even though it delayed the flight, they
did exactly what they should have done.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I was just going to say, exactly the same thing.
That's exactly the way I would want it. Abundance of caution,
little delay, and it's always the right thing to do.
Let's pause, we'll bring it back. We'll talk about space
debris and a Hong Kong plane crash plus a hub
delay with one more. Iheard Mediavation expert Jay rat leves
to Crown fifty five KRC.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
It's cyber.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
It is eight forty nine on a Friday eve. Talking
with I heard Mediavation expert Jae moved through the multitude
of a variety of topics. This morning we go over
to Hong Kong. We had a plane crash. How did
the plane crash? I see we had accorded the notes
A couple of deaths.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, it was a Boeing seven forty seven cargo plane
landing at like three point fifty three in the morning
in Hong Kong. They had four pilots aboard, and after
they touched down and rotated down, they were in the
process of slowing down and there was some sort of
a security vehicle on the runway and the plane struck it,
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and when it did, it caused the aircraft to veer
off the runway down to the embankment into the sea.
So you've got the aircraft in the sea and you've
got two people on the ground vehicle that were killed,
and the accident investigations continuing as far as why in
the world this vehicle was on an active runway, and
because you know, anytime you're at an airport, you're taught
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first thing about you know, how you approach, how you cross,
everything that has to be done to make sure that
you're not where you need to be at the wrong time.
So hopefully they'll be able to find out why that happened,
because yeah, we've not had an incident Hong Kong for
a while, and to see two people killed, you know,
certainly avoidable, and hopefully they'll find out exactly what took place.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, well, being on the runway in a vehicle sounds
like a bad idea in most all cases. Day.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Well, no, no, they do runway inspections all the time.
Oh you know, they drive up and down the runway
to make sure there's no debris or animals things like
that that might interfere with it take off or landing. So, yeah,
runways are used all the time by ground vehicles, but
obviously never won an.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Aircraft is landing exactly all right, space debris.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
It was thought of that United late ten ninety three,
Denver to La. Their cruis long as thirty six thousand feet,
kind of mine in their own business, when all of
a sudden, the cockpit windshield on the first officer side shatters. Now,
the cockpit windshields is not like a car windshield. You've
got three layers of in essence, chemically strengthened glass that's
designed for bird strikes, hail, the temperature changes, and everything else.
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But what made this different, Brian, was that when this shattered,
part of the debris actually entered to the flight deck
and caused injuries to one of the pilots. He had
a bloodied arm in the process. Now, the crew was
still able to control the airplane. It wasn't a big
deal as far as operating it. They landed the plane
fifty minutes later in Salt Lake City, and when they
were on the ground appeared to be some sort of
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scorch marks that were found on the outer side of
the airplane indicating kind of an external impact. And there
wasn't any hail reported in the area. Birds at thirty
six thousand feet not real likely, but they thought, okay,
it could have been a piece of space debris, which
is like never happened that could have actually struck the airplane.
The odd latest well a trillion to one at that point. Yeah,
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but the thought is that they're thinking it may have
also been a weather balloon that could have been in
the area. They're still investigating at the sea. But Brian,
anytime I talk about a cockpit window, I have to
talk got British Airways flight fifty three ninety. This was
a plane that was cruising at seventeen thousand feet and
the captain's windshield totally blew off. It was improperly installed,
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he was not wearing a seatbelt close a decompression sent
him right out the window. Now there was a flight
attendant who had just entered the cabin that lunged forward
and grabbed the captain's knee and feet and was hanging
on to him as he's outside the aircraft. Oh, this
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was several years ago, cracked many years ago.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
But I think a picture about that or something.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
That's what I'm going to say. If you've not googled
the image of British Airways fifty three ninety, you gotta
do it, because there were pictures taken of this aircraft
in flight as it was trying to land. That has
the captain laying across the top of the aircraft.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Wild how last has he going when the window blew out?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Well, seventeen thousand feet you had been going on depending
on the specific I mean, you're going one hundred and
eighty two hundred miles and hours you're coming down and
slowing down.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Stick your hat out of a of a moving cart.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, but you know the captain survived. You had frost
bite and different things. He didn't remember a lot of
things that happened, obviously, But look, this guy was flying
six months later. But if you go to just to
a Google Lemits image surge of BA British Airways fifty
three ninety, you will swear that's a photo. There's no
way that's a real picture. And every time I talk
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about it, people look at they're like, oh my gosh.
But yes, fifty three ninety is the most famous cockpit
windows story that I've ever encountered in thirty three years
of doing this.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yep, it didn't take much for me to find it. Jay,
as we were talking, Yeah, fifty three ninety. All right,
let's close up with hub delays as we typically do.
Haws it looking out there for air travel, Jay Ratliffe.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
As far as hubs Detroit, maybe late in the day,
but Brian, there's just not a lot of inclement weather
out there that's going to really get in the way
of any hubs and as a result, should be a
good day to fly. If you're heading out west. We've
got weather that might give us some turbulence, but you know,
most people are going to keep their seat built on anyways,
which is always a good idea even when you're flying.
So I think today is going to be one of
the better days of the week we've had to fly.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Jay Rightleff, always a real pleasure to have you on
the program, Sarah. Look forward to next Thursday and another
aviation report morning, and I hope you have a great
week and best of health and love to you in
your better half, my friend, and to you as well,
thank you. Thanks brother eight point fifty four coming to
be fifty five. Can get a chance to listen live
the return of Congressman Warren David's Davidson this morning.
Always looking forward to this time of the week and
this day because we get to talk to iHeart media
Aviation next where Jay Ratliff, which I thoroughly enjoy doing
and I hope my listening audience enjoys it as much
as I do. Some really cool topics you got in
this morning on the list here, Jay Ratliffe. I'm going
to go out of order, of course, wildly curious about
the before we get the hub delays, which we always
(00:20):
end on so we know how travel it is out there.
Today it says Boeing has been given permission to increase
production of the seven thirty seven Max aircraft. They need
to seek permission in terms of their output chase. I mean,
I know they do it to themselves sometimes in terms
of delays and backlogs and all that kind of thing.
But who has to give Boeing permission for production of
aircraft numbers?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
The Federal Aviation Administration After the two Boeing Max crashes,
after some of the situations we've had since, the FAA
has said, you guys need to slow it down, and
slow it down now. So they actually capped to the
maximum number of Boeing seven thirty seven Max aircraft that
they could make it to twenty six or something. They
(01:03):
increased it to thirty eight a month, and now that's
been further increased to forty two a month. So yes, Boeing,
who hasn't made a profit since I think twenty eighteen,
is now allowed and that is the proper word, to
produce as many a s F two aircraft a month
because the FAA had to be convinced that they were
doing things the right way, not using scrap parts that
(01:26):
shouldn't be used, making sure the production is as it
needs to be, making sure that no more door plugs
fall off of airplanes like we had last year with
your last airline's flight. So and they are convinced that
Boeing is making the necessary corrections, and we'll see. But yes,
Boeing did need to get permission to push more planes
(01:48):
through the through their production schedule.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well, I'll acknowledge it is a heavily regulated industry and
maybe that's a really good thing considering what they're doing,
But you would never go to a bad part bin
and use one of the parts that's been labeled you know,
non compliant or it doesn't mean our safety let whatever,
it's a unapproved part. You would never use one of
those parts if you had an adequate supply of parts.
(02:12):
Now have they overcome whatever supply shortages that led people
to wander over into the rejected parts bin.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, they've had issues in the past, and Bry, that's
exactly the problem is that some of the supply side things,
because remember Boeing is just hundreds and hundreds of companies
that feed them different parts and services to kind of
keep everything going. And there's been times that they did,
according to the whistleblowers and some confirmed reports, where they
ran out of parts and you were looking at an
(02:40):
airplane that was going to be stationary in this production
cycle for an extended period of time, and supervisors told
the employees, go find the best failed part that we
can put on this aircraft to keep the airplane moving
through production. And it seems ridiculous, it seems stupid, nasinine,
and it's just unbelieva believe, not safe to use a
(03:02):
failed part on an aircraft. But that's what they were doing.
And it's just again Boeing tot us five years ago
that they had turned the corner and learned their lessons.
They were not going to be you know, the same company,
and they lie to us. So I'm really hoping this
time around, all of these paragraphs of promise that come
out and all their you know, press releases really mean
(03:24):
something because before they didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Well, I hope they have a guard posted at the
rejected park closet, because if they haven't solved that problem,
then telling them they can increase the number of airplanes
they can produce on a monthly basis, that doesn't mean
a thing. If you don't have the part, they can't
put the plane together.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Sometimes they have the big red pain on them showing
that they're failed. So so you've got people scrubbing the
red paint. I mean, it's like it's like, you know,
what would go on in Russia with some of the
stuff they do, and the idea that that's going on
here in the United States. And I'm I mean, you
(04:00):
had thirty some whistleblowers come forward saying I can't be
a part of this anymore, right because we're putting the
lives at risk. And you know, thank god, none of
this stuff other than of course, those two horrific plane
crashes with a Boeing Max five years ago, which were
you know, coming up on that anniversary very very soon
here on the first one. But it's just a scary thing.
(04:22):
And you know, Boeing was told by the FAA five
years ago, we really gave you too much slack, and
we're going to be all over you, And of course
they weren't. So the FAA failed us like Boeing failed us.
And you're just hoping that the two entities that failed
us as a traveling you know, segment of population, that
they're going to both come through for us. And certainly
(04:45):
we hope that's going to be the case.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Certainly do well for we part company and take a
break here. How about Southwest Airlines new boarding policy? What's
this one about?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Well, they decided that instead of having like Delta's eight
or ten boarding zones and United ten boarding zones or
whatever it is, that they're going to simplify it. They said,
it's a very easy process. All we have to do
is board all the window seat people first, duh, all
the middle seats second, and then the aisle people third,
and we will be able to put people on the airplane.
(05:14):
It's so easy. Why haven't people thought about this before?
Blah blah blah, And it's really going to make the
boarding process much less stressful. Well, note to Southwest, we
have tried that before, and there's a big time problem
because when all of your window seats and all your
middle seat passengers board, they fill up the overhead storage compartments.
(05:34):
Then you have the ale passengers boarding last. They've paid
more for their ticket than the middle seat people, and
they now have no place to put their bag.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Which is a problem.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So we've had this happen before, so I think we
should start an office pool about how long this is
going to last. But look, Southwest has the best boarding
policy in certain weather locations where they can do it.
They bring people off the front of the airplane while
they're boarding them on the stairs from the rear. And
(06:05):
when you can do that, it's a great process. You
can turn that silver revenue tube fast. But the problem
is you can't do it in the winter, you can't
do it in bad weather, can't do it in windy weather,
all those things. So it's a perfect weather situation to
do that. But look, for the last seventy years, Airline
has been trying to figure out a way for us
to how can we more quickly put people on the
(06:27):
airplane and They have tried every single combination that they
can to try to figure out the best way. We'll
board from the back, front, we'll board from the front back,
We'll board all these different ways, and it just creates problems. Look,
when you board from the back of the airplane forward,
you have all these people dropping their carry on bags,
and Row thirteen I learn, Row twenty.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Eight, I know.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So it just regardless of which way we pivot, Brian,
it creates problems on tops of problems. And while yes,
it seems logical to do it XYZ, the problem is
in a real world environment where you're actually there watching
what takes place. When this happens, it doesn't exactly go
as the theories in the office might suggest they would.
(07:10):
At the case. It's like a college professor who has
all the answers, even though they probably never ran a business.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, at the risk of running over too long, real quickly, here,
if you have a signed seating, can't you have a
sign bin?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You could, and I'm surprised they've not done that before.
Now the problem is how you're going to regulate that
because you don't have enough flight attendants to really be
able to do it. And I don't know why they
don't charge us for the overhead bins. If you need
extra room, saying you can have the seat, the space
underneath the seat in front of you, bring a small bag,
no feet, you need the overhead bind pooh, it's gonna
cost you.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
There what it came a couple of sound ideas, Jay
rutlift pausive.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
No, no, no, they've not listened to me along other than
the things they complain about me. That those things they.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Hear stay around assault rifles, emergency landings, dead people and
space degree more with Jay Ratliff coming up right back
fifty five, I have KRC the for month fifty five
k he talked station. Have you ever been in the
cockpit before, Jay Ratleff has He's ihart meed the aviation expert.
We have the pleasure of talking to Jay Ratliffe every
week at beginning at eight thirty onto section or segment two.
(08:14):
Here Jay Rattliffe sounds like it's a bad IDEA man
with an assault rifle was arrested at the Atlanta Airport.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, this is a forty nine year old from Cartersville, Georgia,
and apparently Brian he had collected to a social Cartersville.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Seriously, Carter, go ahead. I'm sorry to interject with a delight.
I had one of the best experiences of my life.
We are car broke down and when I was in college,
we're on spring break. The car broke down right on
the on ramp to Cartersville, Georgia, and the mayor I
believe he was of Cartersville, was out with his son.
He stopped, he picked us up. There were six of us.
(08:51):
He let us stay at his house. He kicked his
daughter out, he kicked his son out. They went and
stayed at friend's houses. He's his wife fed us all.
This is like midnight on a weekday or something, got
us let us sleep there. No, it was a Saturday,
because I remember we were really worried because Sunday nothing's open.
It was our our and here I am laboring on
(09:11):
about this. Anyway, no fuel. The fuel pump went out,
so we needed to buy a fuel pump really easy
fixed in the van that we were in. So he
ended up getting his buddy, He won the autoparts store
to open up on a Sunday, got us the fuel pump,
got the van fixed. It was It was one of
those renewal of faith in humanity moments in time so
(09:32):
that I heard carters just could not believe how much
gratitude we had for him, And we ended up sending
him a big fruit basket and a big letter of
thanks to him and his wife. They treated it so wonderfully,
and I've always thought the world of Cartersville just because
of that moment in time.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, I hope you kept in touch with him, thanking
he repeatedly for something like that. That's great, that was great,
And and I love the fact that a story like
this can can can spur a nice memory like that
that can be shared, because yeah, let's hope that encourages
other people. You know, not that you are saying let
strangers into your house and spend the night, but you know,
I get it. That's a great thing because it makes
(10:08):
you think that people. You know, it's kind of like
things used to be. But yeah, this story was a
forty nine year old from that place that posted to
a social media count that he was going to go
to the Atlanta Airport shoot it up, and you had
family members that spotted those social media posts. They notified
the local police, who then notified the Atlanta airport. All
this was in like fifteen minutes. The man was later
(10:31):
spotted walking into the airport. He was unarmed at the time,
and the thought was he was scoping it out. He
had his vehicle right outside the door, had an assault
rifle loaded inside the vehicle. He was approached by law enforcement,
he was questioned and detained and it's currently undergoing a
mental health evaluation. And look, this is a perfect example
of how a lot of these tragedies can be averted
(10:53):
if you just have family and friends that might see something,
hear something, notify authorities and say, look, this is what
we see as far as what may or may not
be going on. And I think the family certainly saved
some lives there. But it's a lot like I tell
people at the airport, if you see unattended bags, or
see somebody acting in a suspicious fashion, immediately pointed out
(11:14):
to the airport police. And so many people say, well, Jay,
if it's nothing, I said, I don't care. And you'll
never have any law enforcement officer tell you you never
should do this, because when you have two million people
a day flying and you've got two million sets of eyes,
all that does is ratchet up our security. So if
you see something that doesn't look right, even if it's
(11:34):
something where you might suspect that there's child trafficking or
something else going on, you may not be an expert
at that, So notify somebody who is and then they
can determine whether or not there's an issue.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Sounds like common sense and logic to me. Jay Ridley,
All right, American Airlines flight making an emergency landing. Why
this was sky.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
West Light sixty five sixty nine, taken off from Omahall
they're headed for LA. About forty minutes into the flight,
the pilots start hearing a loud banging on the cockpit door. Okay,
so they called for the flight attendants over the intercom.
Flight attendants do not respond. Oh, they said, okay, we've
got a protocol. They immediately declared an inflight emergency for security,
(12:21):
turned the airplane around, went back to Omaha, and here
come law enforcement. But when they boarded, they found out
that it was the flight attendants knocking on the door
to try to tell them the intercom wasn't working. Whoops. Yeah,
so apparently they didn't have a secret coded knock. It
was us, you know. But look, the pilots, you know,
(12:44):
because they can't see anything, and it really surprises you
that there's not something in the cockpit that would have
a camera of the door or something. I mean, the
technology is so affordable, even for cheap airlines that that
type of thing should exist right where pilots can look
back and at least at the door and beyond. But
absent of that, they didn't know what was going on,
(13:05):
and they are taught that door stays shut. You'd land
that airplane, notify law enforcement just in case. And being
in Omaha close to the military base is there. I
don't know if they launched any military intercept that would
be part of the process here if you've got an
aircraft that you suspect maybe in the process of being
taken over. So the crew did exactly what they should
have and when the pilot landed, the captain he told
(13:27):
his passengers, look, we still don't know what's going on.
Just bear with us. But they aired on the side
of caution, and even though it delayed the flight, they
did exactly what they should have done.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I was just going to say, exactly the same thing.
That's exactly the way I would want it. Abundance of caution,
little delay, and it's always the right thing to do.
Let's pause, we'll bring it back. We'll talk about space
debris and a Hong Kong plane crash plus a hub
delay with one more. Iheard Mediavation expert Jay rat leves
to Crown fifty five KRC.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
It's cyber.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
It is eight forty nine on a Friday eve. Talking
with I heard Mediavation expert Jae moved through the multitude
of a variety of topics. This morning we go over
to Hong Kong. We had a plane crash. How did
the plane crash? I see we had accorded the notes
A couple of deaths.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, it was a Boeing seven forty seven cargo plane
landing at like three point fifty three in the morning
in Hong Kong. They had four pilots aboard, and after
they touched down and rotated down, they were in the
process of slowing down and there was some sort of
a security vehicle on the runway and the plane struck it,
(14:31):
and when it did, it caused the aircraft to veer
off the runway down to the embankment into the sea.
So you've got the aircraft in the sea and you've
got two people on the ground vehicle that were killed,
and the accident investigations continuing as far as why in
the world this vehicle was on an active runway, and
because you know, anytime you're at an airport, you're taught
(14:52):
first thing about you know, how you approach, how you cross,
everything that has to be done to make sure that
you're not where you need to be at the wrong time.
So hopefully they'll be able to find out why that happened,
because yeah, we've not had an incident Hong Kong for
a while, and to see two people killed, you know,
certainly avoidable, and hopefully they'll find out exactly what took place.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, well, being on the runway in a vehicle sounds
like a bad idea in most all cases. Day.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Well, no, no, they do runway inspections all the time.
Oh you know, they drive up and down the runway
to make sure there's no debris or animals things like
that that might interfere with it take off or landing. So, yeah,
runways are used all the time by ground vehicles, but
obviously never won an.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Aircraft is landing exactly all right, space debris.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
It was thought of that United late ten ninety three,
Denver to La. Their cruis long as thirty six thousand feet,
kind of mine in their own business, when all of
a sudden, the cockpit windshield on the first officer side shatters. Now,
the cockpit windshields is not like a car windshield. You've
got three layers of in essence, chemically strengthened glass that's
designed for bird strikes, hail, the temperature changes, and everything else.
(16:03):
But what made this different, Brian, was that when this shattered,
part of the debris actually entered to the flight deck
and caused injuries to one of the pilots. He had
a bloodied arm in the process. Now, the crew was
still able to control the airplane. It wasn't a big
deal as far as operating it. They landed the plane
fifty minutes later in Salt Lake City, and when they
were on the ground appeared to be some sort of
(16:24):
scorch marks that were found on the outer side of
the airplane indicating kind of an external impact. And there
wasn't any hail reported in the area. Birds at thirty
six thousand feet not real likely, but they thought, okay,
it could have been a piece of space debris, which
is like never happened that could have actually struck the airplane.
The odd latest well a trillion to one at that point. Yeah,
(16:48):
but the thought is that they're thinking it may have
also been a weather balloon that could have been in
the area. They're still investigating at the sea. But Brian,
anytime I talk about a cockpit window, I have to
talk got British Airways flight fifty three ninety. This was
a plane that was cruising at seventeen thousand feet and
the captain's windshield totally blew off. It was improperly installed,
(17:10):
he was not wearing a seatbelt close a decompression sent
him right out the window. Now there was a flight
attendant who had just entered the cabin that lunged forward
and grabbed the captain's knee and feet and was hanging
on to him as he's outside the aircraft. Oh, this
(17:31):
was several years ago, cracked many years ago.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
But I think a picture about that or something.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
That's what I'm going to say. If you've not googled
the image of British Airways fifty three ninety, you gotta
do it, because there were pictures taken of this aircraft
in flight as it was trying to land. That has
the captain laying across the top of the aircraft.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Wild how last has he going when the window blew out?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Well, seventeen thousand feet you had been going on depending
on the specific I mean, you're going one hundred and
eighty two hundred miles and hours you're coming down and
slowing down.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Stick your hat out of a of a moving cart.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, but you know the captain survived. You had frost
bite and different things. He didn't remember a lot of
things that happened, obviously, But look, this guy was flying
six months later. But if you go to just to
a Google Lemits image surge of BA British Airways fifty
three ninety, you will swear that's a photo. There's no
way that's a real picture. And every time I talk
(18:33):
about it, people look at they're like, oh my gosh.
But yes, fifty three ninety is the most famous cockpit
windows story that I've ever encountered in thirty three years
of doing this.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yep, it didn't take much for me to find it. Jay,
as we were talking, Yeah, fifty three ninety. All right,
let's close up with hub delays as we typically do.
Haws it looking out there for air travel, Jay Ratliffe.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
As far as hubs Detroit, maybe late in the day,
but Brian, there's just not a lot of inclement weather
out there that's going to really get in the way
of any hubs and as a result, should be a
good day to fly. If you're heading out west. We've
got weather that might give us some turbulence, but you know,
most people are going to keep their seat built on anyways,
which is always a good idea even when you're flying.
So I think today is going to be one of
the better days of the week we've had to fly.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Jay Rightleff, always a real pleasure to have you on
the program, Sarah. Look forward to next Thursday and another
aviation report morning, and I hope you have a great
week and best of health and love to you in
your better half, my friend, and to you as well,
thank you. Thanks brother eight point fifty four coming to
be fifty five. Can get a chance to listen live
the return of Congressman Warren David's Davidson this morning.
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