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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, I know you're on to talk today and you
may have to do a little explaining for the American audience,
including the host of the fifty five KC Morning Show.
Not everybody's really clue or clue into how politics works
in Germany. You know, we've got two parties here sort
of kind of we like to call it the Uni parties,
since both the Republicans and Democrats do terrible things for
our country. But at least you know which side of
(00:22):
the ledger somebody's on. In Germany. There's the Christian Democrat Union,
the alternative for Germany, the Social Democratic Party of Germany,
the Greens, the Left, the Free Democratic Party, and each
of them got a share of the vote, but apparently,
to some surprise, the Christian Democratic Union came out on top.
And I guess, can you explain to my listeners what
(00:44):
ultimately that means, because I know that the head of
the Christian Democratic Party, Friedrich Mergz, didn't have some real
good things to say about the United States and is
wanting to sort of separate the relationship or you know,
divorce us or the Germany from the United States. I guess,
at least along the lines of maybe economic lines or
political lines. But that's why we have you, Oliver, so
(01:07):
can you give us a little rundown.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
With pleasure?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
So indeed, as you say, in places like the United
Kingdom and to the United States, we have a two
party system, and that has real problems, doesn't it, because
if they get too friendly, if a consensus really emerges.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Not what are you left with?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
You're left with essentially unit parties. So there are advantages
and disi answers to our system. As you say, on
one hand, you know where people stand. It's a solid system,
but you can be left with, as you say.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
The blob. Basically.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
The other option is what that you have lots and
lots of parties, and that's the case in many European countries.
So there are advantages to that, which is that voters
are better served in terms of actually voting for what
they want. It's not well, you know, and imagine how
it was in the United States, say fifteen years ago.
You might not really think very much of the Republican Party,
(02:00):
look at them and think, well, these guys are Republicans
in name only, but I've got to vote for them
because we got to keep the Democrats out.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Well, it's not necessarily like that. In Europe there's.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Probably a small, niche party that really caters to your
interests very well. This is the case in Germany. The
problem is because there's a dozen parties or more in
some countries, incredibly maybe fifteen parties in an election, all
vying for votes. They come out in dribs and drabs,
so that their guest party might get twenty five percent
(02:29):
and some of the other parties might be there with
members of parliament at four percent or eight percent. So
how do you build a government out of that? And
that's exactly what we're looking at in Germany now, where
the Christian Democrats, who are the sort of you know,
the soft right, they call themselves conservatives. You know, I
don't think a political philosopher would use that word to
(02:49):
describe them. Let's be as kind as we possibly can,
a right, these guys, they're globalists, seno cons whatever. And
they've come out with twenty eight point five so let's
just round it up, let's say roughly thirty percent.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So they're the biggest party.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
The building a government now is in their hands, but
they've got to bring another party or maybe another two
parties on board to get those numbers ups then get
to fifty percent, so they can command parliament, build a government,
pass laws. And they've really painted themselves into a corner
because actually there are two parties in the bordersta Germany's
parliament which could potentially do this job. On one hand,
(03:27):
you have the AfD Alternative for Deutschland or Alternative for
Germany for US English speakers. These guys are sovereigntist populists.
They're right wingers. They believe in border control, they believe
in sound money. On the other hand, you have the
Social Democrats the SPD, that's like Germany's equivalent. I suppose
the Democrats. They're left wingers, and what the Christian Democrats
(03:49):
have done the soft right.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
They have looked to this situation. Their leader has said.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
We cannot possibly partner with a party that's to the
right of us, because if you're to the right of us,
if you're more right than we are, you are a Nazi, sir,
you're a bad guy. So we're going to refuse to
negotiate with them, and therefore we're left with only one party,
only one choice. We're going to try and do a
government with the left. This is what they call in Germany.
(04:14):
A grand coalition and can you imagine that a Democrat
Republican government in the US working together? That actually mean
It means the voters get betrayed because there's been a
clear vote in this election. The top two parties in
Germany are both right wingers. The people want sound money,
they want border control, but that's not what they're going
(04:36):
to get, because how are you going to build a
coalition like this? Let me tell you the CDU Friedrich
Mergy said his name earlier. He's come into the negotiation.
He says, I'm going to take away my own options
because if you have two potential partners, you can play
them off against each other, can't you. You can say
when you're at the negotiated table, you can say, look,
this is what I want and if you don't like it,
(04:58):
I'm going to walk away. I'm going to go talk
to the other guy. He's already ruled that out for
even sat down. Let's be honest. This guy is not
a Donald Trump level deal maker, is he? This is
a bad move or you even get to the negotiating table.
What else has he done? Before he even got to
the negotiating table? He said, Germany is in a bad way.
We have crises facing us. We have to get a
(05:18):
deal done quickly because we need to be able to
face these headwinds. We need a strong government. We can't
just spend six months talking, which has happened in Germany
before they've gone by the government for six months. So
that again is handing over leverage, negotiation, leverage power to
this small party, this left wing party, who could be
the coalition partner, because when he comes to the table,
(05:42):
they know he hasn't got choices and they know he's
in a hurry.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So any concessions.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
He's going to be making them, it's the right wing,
which is actually the main power in Germany. Now it's
the right wing who are going to be giving up
in order to get concessions from the left just to
form a government. So this guy, wow, what a piece
of work. Germany is in serious trouble because he's the chancellor.
Elects her to speak and we're going to see how
(06:08):
that unfolds in the coming weeks. But I've got to
tell you now, I think this is going to be
a pretty left wing up well.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
The way you characterize it, and I got to applaud
you for explaining a rather complex situation in such a
short period of time, Oliver, wonderful job on that. I
have been enlightened because I immediately figured that the Christian
Democratic Union would pair up with the alternatives for Germany, because,
like America, we woke up to the reality that we
were being overrun by illegal immigrants and it was causing
(06:35):
such peril to our social welfare safety net and the
city schools and the cities. And then I think that's
one of the main reasons Donald Trump got elected. We
shut our border down. It's down to a trickle now,
and they're starting to deport those that are here illegally.
I thought that was kind of a pop I mean,
obviously it's popular enough that the alternatives for Germany came
out front, but I guess they have been labeled by
(06:57):
the media as Nazis. Are they really are Nazis? Oliver?
I mean they're not, are they.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Well, what you have said is absolutely rational to a
dispassionate outside that if you had never heard the thing
about German politics, and you were looking in from the
outside and you say, well, look the two biggest parties
after his election in Germany, the biggest party is the
center right. The second biggest party is the sovereigntist right.
(07:25):
Between them, they have enough votes to make a government. Okay,
they won't agree on everything, but they agree on most things.
That seems rational, doesn't it. The very problem is in
Germany you have this these years and years of rhetoric
because the existence of the alternative for Germany is an
existential crisis for Germany's traditional ruling class.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
The political elite.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
These guys are coming along with new ideas, with new
ways of doing things. They want to change the constitution,
they want to change what it means to be, you know,
the modern German state, which is fundamentally a liberal, all
open borders, most multi racial country. Now that's not what
Germany actually is in reality, but legally that's what they've
(08:08):
been pushing for for decades. So for AFT to come
along and say they want to do something else, but
as I say, it's an existential threat. So these guys
have been slammed a mercilessly for years, as you know,
as the big naughty word nazis. Now that has very
specific meaning, and.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It's a it's a historical term.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
And as I've said before, I think really the only
thing you can possibly get the a f D on
for being like like Nazis is that they're Germans, but.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Nothing else really applies.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
But hey, guess what the SBD there Germans do. But
the fact is, you know that we don't have the
anti semitism, we don't have like the extreme like wild racism.
They these these This party was created because of sound money,
because they want the economy of Rum properly. It was
years until the party, years after the party was founded.
(08:59):
Even I've been thinking about mass migration, but it makes sense.
How can you have a strong economy, How can you
have sound money if you have a state with welfare
entitlements and open borders exact because the number if a
number of theoretical claimants is unlimited, then the cost of
your welfare state is unlimited. So you know, these things
(09:22):
go together hand in hand. Now, because of the emotional
investment they have in the AfD being evil, it's going
to take a leader with enormous character to be able
to say, okay, actually maybe we're wrong. You know a
fifth of all Germans actually back these guys. This is
a democracy. Ergo, this must mean something. And I don't
(09:43):
think Friedrich merges that guy. So he's going to look
at it and say, well, look, if I partner with
the a f D, the Alternative of deutsch.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Land, this is going to impact me personally on a
social level.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I'm no longer going to get in there's nice dinner parties,
there's no nice cocktail receptions.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
When I retire from.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Politics, I'm not going to get on that affluent speaking circuit.
I'm not going to make those millions because I'm not
going to be in the cozy club any I'm going
to be ostracized socially. So I think, honestly that's a
big part of it, because it's social death in Germany
to be something as Gausch and as unfashionable.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
As a supporter for the alternative Germany.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
You know, it's just so amazing in a completely alternative
political setup that you just describe how many parallels you
can draw between what's going on in Germany and what's
here in the United States and the ultimately it comes
down to narcissistic politicians who think more about themselves and
their own best interests than the best interests of the
(10:42):
people of the country.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
And this is the thing I always say about when
I'm pitching the idea of caring about European politics to
my American friends and colleagues, is that our civilizations, our cultures,
are so closely into fined. Just having a little bit
of distance, it gives you that crystal ball. You can
gaze into it and you can see in some cases
(11:08):
what's actually happened in your own country with more clarity
because you have that distance and you can see things
for how they truly are. And in other cases sometimes
Europe is simply a head of America in bad stuff.
So if you want to know what the radical left
has planned for America in five, ten, fifteen years, help
look at Germany, look at Spain, and you'll see it
at HD Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And then you didn't have time. We haven't talked about
energy policy. Germany shut down, it's nuclear plants, it doesn't
have its own and factories aren't running. Right here, everything
just real, real quickly. This coalition, this now left leaning
or center left coalition that's being formed, where are they
on energy policy? Are they going to continue chasing this
(11:50):
green carbon free tail or are they going to wise
up and realize that no, the world's not going to
die because we decide we need nuclear power or we
need some some of our own resources, like gas powered
plants and things of that nature.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Oliver, Yeah, Germany's a real mess when it comes to power.
You remember as well as I do. Donald Trump, standing
before the United Nations in twenty seventeen, was at twenty
eighteen telling Germany that their reliance on Russian gas is
going to cost them dearly, and the Germans laughed in
his face. And he was right then, he was so right.
(12:25):
And at a time where the global supply of gas
is being constricted because of the Ukraine War, because of
Russia's stupid decision to go to war with Europe via Ukraine,
the Germans thought, this is the perfect time. There's never
been a better opportunity when there's an energy shortage for
us to shut down a fleet picular power stations. And
I guess the reason that because this old coalition that's
(12:47):
now just about to leave government it was between two
left wing parties and the centrist party.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And one of those left wing parties.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Is the Green And I know, being green, it sounds
so nice and fluffy, and how could anybody hate the
environ The thing we've got to remember, when we hear green,
we think left.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
These guides are the.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Most radical revolutionary socialists on the planet, and they took
the opportunity because they may never get into government again.
I think the German people the way they voted, they
punished this outgoing coalition, punished it, and the Greens were
part of that.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
But they took the opportunity. You've got to give them
credit for that.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
They know an opportunity when they see one, and they've
wrecked the power situation in Germany. And as you say,
Germany's industrial base is being decimated because the cost of
industrial power is so high. Factories in Germany are spending millions,
it's not billions of dollars extra on energy every year
compared to say, their competitors in the United States, where
(13:47):
you have bountiful clean fracking gas.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
So this is a real problem. How is it going
to get fixed? We just don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
We've got to see how it comes out in the
negotiations in the coalition a group.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
But as I've said, I'm not what's a.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Mistake lendivierchie Oliverlane, what an excellent, excellent explanation and breakdown
for my listening audience. I truly appreciate you doing that today,
spending time with my listeners, and keep up the great
work at Breitbart. I'll look forward to having.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You back on. Always a pleasure, until next time.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Until next time, Eight to God, It's tererebral. Eight twenty three,
fifty five KRC detalk station.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Don't go away. This is fifty five KARC an iHeartRadio station.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
What wrong with German people,
Well, I know you're on to talk today and you
may have to do a little explaining for the American audience,
including the host of the fifty five KC Morning Show.
Not everybody's really clue or clue into how politics works
in Germany. You know, we've got two parties here sort
of kind of we like to call it the Uni parties,
since both the Republicans and Democrats do terrible things for
our country. But at least you know which side of
(00:22):
the ledger somebody's on. In Germany. There's the Christian Democrat Union,
the alternative for Germany, the Social Democratic Party of Germany,
the Greens, the Left, the Free Democratic Party, and each
of them got a share of the vote, but apparently,
to some surprise, the Christian Democratic Union came out on top.
And I guess, can you explain to my listeners what
(00:44):
ultimately that means, because I know that the head of
the Christian Democratic Party, Friedrich Mergz, didn't have some real
good things to say about the United States and is
wanting to sort of separate the relationship or you know,
divorce us or the Germany from the United States. I guess,
at least along the lines of maybe economic lines or
political lines. But that's why we have you, Oliver, so
(01:07):
can you give us a little rundown.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
With pleasure?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
So indeed, as you say, in places like the United
Kingdom and to the United States, we have a two
party system, and that has real problems, doesn't it, because
if they get too friendly, if a consensus really emerges.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Not what are you left with?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
You're left with essentially unit parties. So there are advantages
and disi answers to our system. As you say, on
one hand, you know where people stand. It's a solid system,
but you can be left with, as you say.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
The blob. Basically.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
The other option is what that you have lots and
lots of parties, and that's the case in many European countries.
So there are advantages to that, which is that voters
are better served in terms of actually voting for what
they want. It's not well, you know, and imagine how
it was in the United States, say fifteen years ago.
You might not really think very much of the Republican Party,
(02:00):
look at them and think, well, these guys are Republicans
in name only, but I've got to vote for them
because we got to keep the Democrats out.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Well, it's not necessarily like that. In Europe there's.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Probably a small, niche party that really caters to your
interests very well. This is the case in Germany. The
problem is because there's a dozen parties or more in
some countries, incredibly maybe fifteen parties in an election, all
vying for votes. They come out in dribs and drabs,
so that their guest party might get twenty five percent
(02:29):
and some of the other parties might be there with
members of parliament at four percent or eight percent. So
how do you build a government out of that? And
that's exactly what we're looking at in Germany now, where
the Christian Democrats, who are the sort of you know,
the soft right, they call themselves conservatives. You know, I
don't think a political philosopher would use that word to
(02:49):
describe them. Let's be as kind as we possibly can,
a right, these guys, they're globalists, seno cons whatever. And
they've come out with twenty eight point five so let's
just round it up, let's say roughly thirty percent.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So they're the biggest party.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
The building a government now is in their hands, but
they've got to bring another party or maybe another two
parties on board to get those numbers ups then get
to fifty percent, so they can command parliament, build a government,
pass laws. And they've really painted themselves into a corner
because actually there are two parties in the bordersta Germany's
parliament which could potentially do this job. On one hand,
(03:27):
you have the AfD Alternative for Deutschland or Alternative for
Germany for US English speakers. These guys are sovereigntist populists.
They're right wingers. They believe in border control, they believe
in sound money. On the other hand, you have the
Social Democrats the SPD, that's like Germany's equivalent. I suppose
the Democrats. They're left wingers, and what the Christian Democrats
(03:49):
have done the soft right.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
They have looked to this situation. Their leader has said.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
We cannot possibly partner with a party that's to the
right of us, because if you're to the right of us,
if you're more right than we are, you are a Nazi, sir,
you're a bad guy. So we're going to refuse to
negotiate with them, and therefore we're left with only one party,
only one choice. We're going to try and do a
government with the left. This is what they call in Germany.
(04:14):
A grand coalition and can you imagine that a Democrat
Republican government in the US working together? That actually mean
It means the voters get betrayed because there's been a
clear vote in this election. The top two parties in
Germany are both right wingers. The people want sound money,
they want border control, but that's not what they're going
(04:36):
to get, because how are you going to build a
coalition like this? Let me tell you the CDU Friedrich
Mergy said his name earlier. He's come into the negotiation.
He says, I'm going to take away my own options
because if you have two potential partners, you can play
them off against each other, can't you. You can say
when you're at the negotiated table, you can say, look,
this is what I want and if you don't like it,
(04:58):
I'm going to walk away. I'm going to go talk
to the other guy. He's already ruled that out for
even sat down. Let's be honest. This guy is not
a Donald Trump level deal maker, is he? This is
a bad move or you even get to the negotiating table.
What else has he done? Before he even got to
the negotiating table? He said, Germany is in a bad way.
We have crises facing us. We have to get a
(05:18):
deal done quickly because we need to be able to
face these headwinds. We need a strong government. We can't
just spend six months talking, which has happened in Germany
before they've gone by the government for six months. So
that again is handing over leverage, negotiation, leverage power to
this small party, this left wing party, who could be
the coalition partner, because when he comes to the table,
(05:42):
they know he hasn't got choices and they know he's
in a hurry.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So any concessions.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
He's going to be making them, it's the right wing,
which is actually the main power in Germany. Now it's
the right wing who are going to be giving up
in order to get concessions from the left just to
form a government. So this guy, wow, what a piece
of work. Germany is in serious trouble because he's the chancellor.
Elects her to speak and we're going to see how
(06:08):
that unfolds in the coming weeks. But I've got to
tell you now, I think this is going to be
a pretty left wing up well.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
The way you characterize it, and I got to applaud
you for explaining a rather complex situation in such a
short period of time, Oliver, wonderful job on that. I
have been enlightened because I immediately figured that the Christian
Democratic Union would pair up with the alternatives for Germany, because,
like America, we woke up to the reality that we
were being overrun by illegal immigrants and it was causing
(06:35):
such peril to our social welfare safety net and the
city schools and the cities. And then I think that's
one of the main reasons Donald Trump got elected. We
shut our border down. It's down to a trickle now,
and they're starting to deport those that are here illegally.
I thought that was kind of a pop I mean,
obviously it's popular enough that the alternatives for Germany came
out front, but I guess they have been labeled by
(06:57):
the media as Nazis. Are they really are Nazis? Oliver?
I mean they're not, are they.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Well, what you have said is absolutely rational to a
dispassionate outside that if you had never heard the thing
about German politics, and you were looking in from the
outside and you say, well, look the two biggest parties
after his election in Germany, the biggest party is the
center right. The second biggest party is the sovereigntist right.
(07:25):
Between them, they have enough votes to make a government. Okay,
they won't agree on everything, but they agree on most things.
That seems rational, doesn't it. The very problem is in
Germany you have this these years and years of rhetoric
because the existence of the alternative for Germany is an
existential crisis for Germany's traditional ruling class.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
The political elite.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
These guys are coming along with new ideas, with new
ways of doing things. They want to change the constitution,
they want to change what it means to be, you know,
the modern German state, which is fundamentally a liberal, all
open borders, most multi racial country. Now that's not what
Germany actually is in reality, but legally that's what they've
(08:08):
been pushing for for decades. So for AFT to come
along and say they want to do something else, but
as I say, it's an existential threat. So these guys
have been slammed a mercilessly for years, as you know,
as the big naughty word nazis. Now that has very
specific meaning, and.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It's a it's a historical term.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
And as I've said before, I think really the only
thing you can possibly get the a f D on
for being like like Nazis is that they're Germans, but.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Nothing else really applies.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
But hey, guess what the SBD there Germans do. But
the fact is, you know that we don't have the
anti semitism, we don't have like the extreme like wild racism.
They these these This party was created because of sound money,
because they want the economy of Rum properly. It was
years until the party, years after the party was founded.
(08:59):
Even I've been thinking about mass migration, but it makes sense.
How can you have a strong economy, How can you
have sound money if you have a state with welfare
entitlements and open borders exact because the number if a
number of theoretical claimants is unlimited, then the cost of
your welfare state is unlimited. So you know, these things
(09:22):
go together hand in hand. Now, because of the emotional
investment they have in the AfD being evil, it's going
to take a leader with enormous character to be able
to say, okay, actually maybe we're wrong. You know a
fifth of all Germans actually back these guys. This is
a democracy. Ergo, this must mean something. And I don't
(09:43):
think Friedrich merges that guy. So he's going to look
at it and say, well, look, if I partner with
the a f D, the Alternative of deutsch.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Land, this is going to impact me personally on a
social level.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I'm no longer going to get in there's nice dinner parties,
there's no nice cocktail receptions.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
When I retire from.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Politics, I'm not going to get on that affluent speaking circuit.
I'm not going to make those millions because I'm not
going to be in the cozy club any I'm going
to be ostracized socially. So I think, honestly that's a
big part of it, because it's social death in Germany
to be something as Gausch and as unfashionable.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
As a supporter for the alternative Germany.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
You know, it's just so amazing in a completely alternative
political setup that you just describe how many parallels you
can draw between what's going on in Germany and what's
here in the United States and the ultimately it comes
down to narcissistic politicians who think more about themselves and
their own best interests than the best interests of the
(10:42):
people of the country.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
And this is the thing I always say about when
I'm pitching the idea of caring about European politics to
my American friends and colleagues, is that our civilizations, our cultures,
are so closely into fined. Just having a little bit
of distance, it gives you that crystal ball. You can
gaze into it and you can see in some cases
(11:08):
what's actually happened in your own country with more clarity
because you have that distance and you can see things
for how they truly are. And in other cases sometimes
Europe is simply a head of America in bad stuff.
So if you want to know what the radical left
has planned for America in five, ten, fifteen years, help
look at Germany, look at Spain, and you'll see it
at HD Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And then you didn't have time. We haven't talked about
energy policy. Germany shut down, it's nuclear plants, it doesn't
have its own and factories aren't running. Right here, everything
just real, real quickly. This coalition, this now left leaning
or center left coalition that's being formed, where are they
on energy policy? Are they going to continue chasing this
(11:50):
green carbon free tail or are they going to wise
up and realize that no, the world's not going to
die because we decide we need nuclear power or we
need some some of our own resources, like gas powered
plants and things of that nature.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Oliver, Yeah, Germany's a real mess when it comes to power.
You remember as well as I do. Donald Trump, standing
before the United Nations in twenty seventeen, was at twenty
eighteen telling Germany that their reliance on Russian gas is
going to cost them dearly, and the Germans laughed in
his face. And he was right then, he was so right.
(12:25):
And at a time where the global supply of gas
is being constricted because of the Ukraine War, because of
Russia's stupid decision to go to war with Europe via Ukraine,
the Germans thought, this is the perfect time. There's never
been a better opportunity when there's an energy shortage for
us to shut down a fleet picular power stations. And
I guess the reason that because this old coalition that's
(12:47):
now just about to leave government it was between two
left wing parties and the centrist party.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And one of those left wing parties.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Is the Green And I know, being green, it sounds
so nice and fluffy, and how could anybody hate the
environ The thing we've got to remember, when we hear green,
we think left.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
These guides are the.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Most radical revolutionary socialists on the planet, and they took
the opportunity because they may never get into government again.
I think the German people the way they voted, they
punished this outgoing coalition, punished it, and the Greens were
part of that.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
But they took the opportunity. You've got to give them
credit for that.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
They know an opportunity when they see one, and they've
wrecked the power situation in Germany. And as you say,
Germany's industrial base is being decimated because the cost of
industrial power is so high. Factories in Germany are spending millions,
it's not billions of dollars extra on energy every year
compared to say, their competitors in the United States, where
(13:47):
you have bountiful clean fracking gas.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
So this is a real problem. How is it going
to get fixed? We just don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
We've got to see how it comes out in the
negotiations in the coalition a group.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
But as I've said, I'm not what's a.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Mistake lendivierchie Oliverlane, what an excellent, excellent explanation and breakdown
for my listening audience. I truly appreciate you doing that today,
spending time with my listeners, and keep up the great
work at Breitbart. I'll look forward to having.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You back on. Always a pleasure, until next time.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Until next time, Eight to God, It's tererebral. Eight twenty three,
fifty five KRC detalk station.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Don't go away. This is fifty five KARC an iHeartRadio station.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
What wrong with German people,
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