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September 30, 2025 • 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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on today the return of Deputy Policy Director Bradley. J. Bradley,

(00:32):
Welcome back to the morning show. It's always a pleasure
for having you on the show.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's all great to be here, Brian, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
And it's wash Ren's repeat day. Another government shutdown running
headlong toward us. Why because Chucky Schumann the Democrats want
to continue the COVID nineteen subsidies for all people at
all income levels in connection with purchasing their Obamacare plans.
Is that where we are on this.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
That's where we are.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Part of the time shut or really hasn't been straightforward
about what exactly it is that Democrats won't That has
been one of many items that they've thrown out over
the past several months.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
But that gets to the broader issue here is that.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Democrats have been planning on this date to force a
shut down since March, since we passed the last government
funding bill. Hakeem Jeffries, the House Minority Leader, just last
week said as much, said that we've been planning on
this shutdown showdown for months. That's what it's all about.
It's about making a stand. It's about showing the radical

(01:38):
elements of the base that runs the Democrat Party that
Democrats are willing to get tough with Donald Trump, even
if they're going to take the government.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Off a cliff to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Well, my understanding is the Republicans they're extending the current
spending levels, are willing to do that until Congress finishes
up the twelve appropriation bills that they're supposed to pass
every damn year but haven't done, relying on omnibuses since
nineteen ninety seven. That in and of itself is a
travesty and a failure of them to even understand the
simple basic principles and job requirements. That's on their job

(02:10):
responsibility list. I mean, that's one of the only job
they've got past twelve appropriation bills. You've got a whole
year to do it. But we're going to continue funding
at current spending levels until that happens. I mean, what's
the problem with this set up, Bradley, Just because the
Democrats aren't getting their profligate spending ways, I don't know.
I pay attention to the debt clock, Bradley, and I'm

(02:30):
frightened as hell about that.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
It is an actual crime, or at least it's illegal.
Congress has statutory requirements to hit all these different marks
on passing those twelve appropriations bills.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Each year it fails. It seems like I think every year.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Since I first got into Washington and started working in
the Senate in odone.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
But here's the deal with the current problem that we're
looking at.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
The back Horrizon plan is to pass this seven week
continuing resolution to give these bipartisan appropriators the time to
continue negotiating those twelve bills. By voting against that seven
week CR, Democrats are saying, you know what, No, we're

(03:17):
nuking the ongoing bipartisan appropriations process.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
The only chance at getting any kind of.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Concessions from Republicans right in favor of making this ridiculous
stand to appease their base.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, and I think that's really a fundamental point that
these we doubled down on Bradley. They don't give up
the opportunity to increase spending when they're negotiating the twelve
Appropriations bills. That's where the sausage is made, right, and
that where Republicans also engage in profligate spending for their
favored interest groups in their states. I mean, that's what
goes on in the twelve.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
You're exactly right. And the saying in Washington is that
there are three political parties.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
There's Republicans, Democrats, and appropriate creators. Look these Republican appropriators
with their big spending ways, I mean, these are democrats
best friends. These are who if Democrats were actually serious
about trying to strike a deal, those are the people
who Democrats would be talking to, not to try to
arrange these made for TV meetings between Trump and Congressional

(04:20):
leader Stune and Johnson. But they're not serious about striking
a deal. They're about making a big show.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Of everything, Okay, And to that end, because I'm sitting here, Bradley,
getting ready to ask you, what do they hope to
accomplish by this? It seems to me just to try
to cause, like, for example, all the constant investigation and
impeachment efforts during Trump's first administration, just keep him busy
dealing with something that's a distraction to prevent him from
getting what he wants to accomplish in government, likes shrinking

(04:46):
the size and scope of government, dealing with the deep state,
et cetera, et cetera. I can see them thinking that,
but this seems to blay right in Donald Trump's lap.
They shut the government down, and he's already said he's
gonna do it. He's going to start firing people.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
You're exactly right, and that's why everyone is scratching their heads.
What are Democrats thinking here?

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Russ Vote, the Office of Management and Budget Director, well
known throughout Washington, is perhaps possessing more hatred for the
federal bureaucracy than anyone in this town. He has just
been waiting for the opportunity to run the OMB during
a shutdown because he will have broad discretion to determine

(05:30):
where where funding actually goes, including making these mass layoffs
potentially of federal bureaucrats. Democrats are giving him that authority,
and I don't see how this plays out well for
them long term, and because they're essentially playing into Trump
Trump's hands, I don't see what incentive Trump and Republicans

(05:52):
have to give Democrats.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
An off ramp.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Any exit ramp that they have from the shutdown is
going to get bumpy, and whatever road it leads into
is going to be even worse for Democrats. It's just
political malpractice for the short term benefit of appeasing their
radical base.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
And of course there's always a win loss analysis on this.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Who wins?

Speaker 2 (06:13):
I mean, who's going to get blamed for the government shutdown?
This clearly seems to be following right in the Democrats
lab for the reason you just pointed out, and we
just pointed out, there's still opportunities for them to get
their way during doing the twelve appropriations bills. They haven't
given up on that option. It kella could be worse
in the final analysis if they went through that process.
So there's that Trump's going to get the opportunity to
fire some people. But I think maybe the Democrats are

(06:36):
still harboring a notion that this whole there their control
over the mainstream media's message. They're always on the Democrats side.
The mainstream media will be out there saying the Republican's fault,
it's Republican's fault. I don't think the mainstream media has
nearly as much power as it did even a few
years ago. There are so many other options out there
that people are turning to to get their news and
digest it, and so many different approaches to the win

(06:58):
loss analysis. If I can just want small example of
what we're reporting on that maybe that is no longer
a thing. Your reaction that sort of fought Bradley Brian,
you absolutely nailed it.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
This is not twenty eighteen, the last time we had
a partial government shutdown. It's not twenty thirteen the last
time we had a long full government shut down. People
have other ways of getting their news besides ABC and MSNBC.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
It's just a different time. Plus the shoe is on
the other foot now.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Republicans are the ones who are making a very simple request,
seven week short term funding patch so that we can
keep bipartisan negotiations going. If Democrats this time, who have
unreasonable demands trying to use a seven week continuing resolution
to force these huge monumental policy changes, like that one

(07:56):
point five trillion dollar extension of Obamacare subsidies that was
passed during COVID when everybody was freaking out and the
Democrats were using it as an advantage to enlarge government
and create a further foothold into all of our lives
and give them more power. That's Republicans are not going
to play that game this time. And it's just so

(08:17):
simple and straightforward to anyone looking at it that Republicans
are being responsible and Democrats are making ridiculous demands.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
All right, so you know, drain your tea and take
a look at the tea leaves. Bradley, Jay, how does
this ultimately play out? Let's assume the government shuts down
tonight at midnight. Democrats are holding fast, Republicans are holding fast.
Where do we go from here? And how do you
see it resolving inself?

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Bradley, That's a great question, and it's really a head scratcher. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
The best that Democrats might be able to hope for
is some type of assurance from Trump and Republicans that
they will, at the appropriate time talk about extending those
Obamacare subsidies, but I don't think that Republicans have an
incentive to actually address that with the next spending bill.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
So again it gets back to whatever exit ram Democrats have.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Is gonna be real bumpy, and it's going to take
them somewhere that they don't want to go. Will Republicans
stay united, that's the question. Republicans aren't very good at
doing that.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Thus far. They are much more.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
United about the plan than they were in twenty eighteen
and twenty thirteen. I think that's because ideologically and philosophically,
and if you look at like the actual the specifics
of what Republicans are proposing here their own such firm footing.
Democrats hope appears to be that they can somehow get

(09:47):
Trump to fold, or get enough Republican moderates to fold
that Republicans have to go in a different direction right now,
I don't see it. If the shutdown lasts one, two, three,
four weeks or more, will that change potentially, But that's
a big roll the dice for Democrats.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Well, in my understanding, the expiration of these subsidies, which
again COVID nineteen subsidies, they go to people with incomes
above the original cutoff of four hundred percent of federal
poverty level. There are only I say only, it's still
a significant number, Bradley. But one point six million folks
are going to lose this perk thanks to COVID. But

(10:28):
that includes, for example, I saw I saw the Wall
Street Journal to the number on this A family of
foreign Arizona making six hundred thousand dollars, they get the subsidy.
Right now, married couple in West Virginia making five hundred
and eighty thousand dollars, they get the subsidy. The one
point six million people who are going to lose the
subsidy probably won't be that financially devastated, And even if
they think that they are, that doesn't add up to

(10:48):
a whole lot of votes when it comes to the
impact on the elections next year.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
I think you're right, and there is a small handful
of Republicans on the House that would prefer right now
to extend those in some fashion. Maybe sunset them maybe
means tested well.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
There's sunset. There are already sunset at they end this year. Bradley, Well,
I feel like.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
That it may be in conjunction with the midterms next year.
I say, but look, here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
A seven week funding patch is not the appropriate time
to deal with something so expensive. If they pass a
seven week c R and they want to pass something
long term, that would be much more appropriate.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
And Republicans have said they'd be willing to do that.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
But Democrats have drawn a line into sand and said, nope,
right now, we need to have this conversation. And I
don't think that's the politically pragmatic step for them.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well, I guess we're in the moment in time, Bradley Jay,
where we just get our popcorn out, put our feet up,
and just watch it unfold, because midnight's the night is
the time.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Right.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Oh, it's great to be a deputy political editor at
breichbart Right now. We've got all kinds of uh, We've
got all kinds of opportunities and material to cover, and
we are going to keep everyone updated on this on
Breitbart dot com.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
You always do, brad last way, I love you guys
so much, Bradley Jay. He is the assistant I'm sorry,
deputy director of a policy at Breitbart Breitbart dot com
book Market. You'll be glad you did, Bradley. We'll talk
again soon. Keep up the great work my friend. Thanks
for the time today, looking forward to it. Thanks Brian,
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