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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Just Ibato five here at fifty five KRCD talk station.
Happy Tuesday, Kevin Gordon filling in for me tomorrow. I'm
taking the rest of the week off in hon't know, Thanksgiving,
and as I always start this time of week and
this moment in time on the Fikarssee Morning Show, Bookmarket,
Breitbart dot com, b R E I T B A
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at bright Bart News. The return and perfect timing. Welcome
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back Tech editor Colin Maydin. It's always great talking with you.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hey, Brian, how are you today?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I'm doing great, And you know, I when I saw
you were going to be on the program this morning,
I was so happy because I just was beaming. And
in fact, Breitbart's where I found out about it. Elon
Musk has now labeled to count locations on his platform
X so you know, in fact, no, you're not dealing
with some guy in Texas screaming about MAGA or dividing
and stirring the pot of descent in this country. It's
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actually somebody in Bangladesh or elsewhere. I want this feature
on every social media platform. Colin Maydin explained this to
my listeners.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Well, Brian, yeah, this is a doozy you know, and
I actually thought of you first as we were You're
the kind of guy who can who can you know,
pull us apart for the audience. So you know, we've
always had a problem.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
With foreign influence.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yes, of course, the two sides of the country kind
of disagree who's influencing what right, So you know, people
had been begging Elon and his team of Twitter now
known as X to have this feature saying what country
are these are these people trump that are posting?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
They finally added it. They had it live for a
couple hours and turned it off because there was problems,
but then it relaunched over the weekend and you know,
suddenly all these eyes were opened. Because we have a
lot of accounts, especially in the political area, where they
are anonymous accounts. You know, they don't have a real
(02:01):
person name on there that is a known person, you know,
like a Brian Thomas account as you but you know,
American patriot.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Who the heck is that? Right?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
A lot of those accounts, to your point, are in
places ranging from Romania to you know, Australia in some cases,
but a lot of them are in India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh.
So suddenly all these people go turn into super salutes
and they're looking at what these accounts are posting. Now,
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the leftist response to this is haha, conservatism is fake,
Maga is fake because all these accounts are fake. But
that's not true when you look at it. The political
accounts based in these foreign countries are all posting divisions.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
It's all about that the conservative movement for years.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
And I'm so blas, I was so excited about this article.
I'm glad you thought of me because I've been saying
that out a lot on the program for years without
you know, support for what I was concluding. But social media,
it's so easy if you're a foreign actor and you
want to screw with America, and America is you know,
embracing under the umbell of freedom, that's one thing at
least you can unite under. Well, we need to disable that,
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we need to interfere with that. Let us choose any
given subject matter and stir the pot of division. And
we can do that from remote control, from anywhere on
the globe. And this confirms what I've been saying. You're
listening to a bunch of foreign actors who want us
to fight amongst ourselves over literally anything.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Colin, Oh, absolutely true. Now there's you know, there's a
couple of important points here. Firstly, the concept of an
anonymous account is not by itself evil at all. We've
gone through more than a decade of social media cancel culture,
where if you're a conservative and you dare to share
your opinion, they're going to try to get you fired.
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They're going to try to get you, you know, kicked
out of polite society. So that you know, that's okay,
But what this has revealed is very sophisticated actions by
people to portray typical Americans. To your point, you know,
you have an account that portrays itself as a as
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a you know, a gun slinging Texan likes the barbecue
for lunch, and you know drives a jacked a pickup truck.
It's a dude in Pakistan that probably works for the
Pakistani governments. So you know, big problem. And you know
Twitter already had problems with foreigners because you know, the
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Twitter was one of the one of the big changes
under Elon was they launched a program where you can
make money as a verified account. You know, if you're
driving traffic. If you're doing big numbers, you can make
money like advertitles and India, Pakistan accounts base. These places
were completely gaming that system. So your real influencer sitting
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in the U, we're barely making any money because the
system was being completely you know, tricked by folks overseas,
and he's been trying to straighten that out. Now it's
taken a much, much deeper and frankly more sinister turn,
because you know, exactly to your point, you and others
were saying, these aren't Americans, these are people trying to
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screw with us. Now we know that's true.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yes, indeed, And you know, I love that he anticipated
the VPN workaround. You know, I'm a big fan of
epns even for example, and I use this as an illustration.
You got a teenager in a state which doesn't allow
teens on pornography sites that state, All you need to
do is get on a VPN and pretend like you're
in some other state or as the case, maybe some
other country. That's where your IP address shows up. That
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defeats the whole ID check thing because that other state,
like Illinois, doesn't have the ID verification. So that's a workaround.
Same thing goes here. You could be a foreign actor
saying that you're in the United States, but if you
use a VPN from Bangladesh, it might look like you're
in Chicago or Saint Louis or Cincinnati. That's what the
VPN will show. But Elon must anticipated that, so he's
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got the little exclamation point feature that's going along with
that exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
So you know, for anyone that that's not familiar with
how this works, you can look in an account and
click on the date that it says they joined the platform.
It's going to give you all the additional information, including
the country they're based in. And to your point, Brian,
you know, yes, anyone could VPN and say hi, I
am an American, you know, but with that exclamation point,
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you know they're on a VPN.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
You don't know where they're.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Based, but you know if they're saying American patriot or
my favorite of all these accounts is Republicans against Trump,
you know, which is not Republicans against Trump because it's
not American.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
You know, it's a great that you can see, Hey,
I don't know where they are, but they're not here,
and that's enough information for us.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, it provides you an opportunity to exercise some logic
and reason. I wonder why they're using a VPN, and
the result is the obvious question. Answer to the question
is because there's someplace else. It's just you know, just
put two and two together. It's simply it may not
necessarily be true, but more than likely in connection with
these divisive posts related to American politics and other topics,
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it more than likely is a foreign actor. And I
was surprised in the reporting on this that the China
didn't come up more often, because I mean you had
mentioned Bangladesh, Congo's even mentioned in India Pakistan, but no
specific mention of China, who I kind of figured would
be the biggest foreign actor involved in this activity.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It's it's a method of warfare.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It is, you know. And for our Democrat friends, I'm
sure you have some Democrat listeners. Yes, Russia wasn't in
there either, so you know, we could talk all day
about that, Brian.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
There's a lot going on.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
For one thing, China may not be as concerned about
what happens on Twitter because they have much larger scale
influenced operations. For example, TikTok that is clearly a Chinese
thiop right. In other cases, probably some of these people,
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if you're talking about the true you know, nation state
security practice level, they might be hiding out in India.
Because one of the very interesting things that we're going
to be following up and researching on with this is
typically when you're dealing with scammers and basically financial influencers,
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you know, people who are not spies but rather doing
stuff for money, which is some of what's going on here.
The English is bad, you know, they don't know how
We get scam emails all the time that are poorly
written in English, right, because it's not English as the
first language speakers who are writing those these are all
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you know, the Texans sound like Texans, right. That is
a level of sophistication that is not there for normal scammers.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
But it will be if it isn't here already called
in a moment's time, it will be with artificial intelligence, right,
I mean with a statement in you know, proper English,
you know, with a Texas flair, even you can get
AI to do stuff like that. It'll tailor a message
for it, it'll actually be grammatically correct or maybe even
come out in a very colloquial way that'll make it
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look convincing.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Very true.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You know. So when I look at things, when I
look at these fake accounts, when I see him coming
out of Europe like Romania, I'm thinking to myself, this
is the EU trying to mess with us. Right when
I see him coming out of India, I'm thinking, that's
more people trying to make bucks because there's nothing there's
no better way to make money on social media. Then
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divide people, enrage people. This is kind of the how
it's third model of radio applied to applied to social media.
But clearly there's much more than that going on. And
I think we're going to see this unfold over time.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
No question.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
And further to my point on China, maybe it isn't
so much that and I point well taken on them
being you know, in other countries. Obviously they're expanding their
global footprint China is so they could operate these bot
farms elsewhere, but that they are perpetuating the we're all
killing ourselves with the climate CO two eradication messaging that
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that is in their financial best interest. In other words,
it's a glorified global marketing campaign to get us to
be stupid and buy windmills and solar panels and cut
our own throats in terms of energy generation column.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, Brian, keep in mind, the Chinese mindset is they'll
hang us and we'll sell them the roAP.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
That's what they want.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, they use to commit a theyse to assassinate their
political operatives and then build a family for the bullet.
You may just remember those days back in the you know,
shoot them in the back of the head and then
charge the family.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
For the bullet.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
That's China, and they're doing that to us each and
every day. Colin made iin tech editor with Breitbart b
R E I T b a rt Breitbart dot Com.
I was totally blown away and really disturbed by a
Wall Street Journal article I read just from yesterday. Teens
are saying tearful goodbyes to their AI companions. Some really
unbelievable problems these young people are having getting involved with
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artificial intelligence. And they just have this perception that these
fake characters that they create and interact with conversationally and
literally spend hours and hours online with them, they perceive
them to be almost real. So when you say sorry,
young people are not going to let you have access
to this anymore. They break down emotionally. Oh my god,
I'm not gonna get they're not real people. I mean,
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where is that message getting out?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Colin?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Sadly, it appears that Meta also was painfully aware of this.
But so rather than look further into the details of
the harm social media does the people, they just shut
down their research on it.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah, that's uh, you know, that's a fun story, Brian.
I want to correct one thing you said. Oh, the
young people don't think the ais are almost real. There's
no almost don't believe they're real and that generation. Right,
What you're seeing here, Brian, is a perfect illustration of
the economics concept of opportunity costs. Opportunity cost is if
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you're doing one thing, you can't do another. So our
young people are falling in love with AI, you know,
warning it when they lose it.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
What are they not doing.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
They're not meeting that real human right, They're not forming
relationships that are going to make the next generation of Americans.
We're going to have a population crisis light China if
we don't have people fall in love and get married
and so forth. Right, and so you know, the Meta
story you just mentioned is very insidious because what's happening
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there is as they're internal researchers who I'm actually starting
to admit because they're very sharp and they're they're reaching
the right conclusions, they just get turned off. So you know,
we have these internal researchers talking to each other saying, gosh,
this is a drug and we're pushers, and you know,
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they're realizing the ugly truth. It's kind of like there's
a meme of the Nazi saying, are we the bad guys?
That's that's what's happening in Silicon Valley. But they just
keep pushing forward and not slowing down.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Well, here's someone's got to slow them down.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Illustrative quote exactly on that point, Doctor ninovssan director at
Stanford's Medicine's Brainstorm Lab for Mental Health Innovation. Quote the
difficulty logging off meaning interaction with the AI chatbots. The
difficulty in logging off doesn't mean something is wrong with
the team. It means the tech worked exactly as designed.
That is, I think that just like hammers. The point home, Yes,
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they want your children to spend all of their hours
engaging with artificial intelligence.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
The strong comparison that I have yet to see breakdown.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Brian is Big Tobacco and Right Channel and right. But
you know, here, here's why I mentioned Big Tobacco.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
What came out about Big Tobacco eventually was all of
their advertising, from the Marlborough Man to Joe Campbell was
aimed at fourteen year olds. Because if you start a
fourteen year old smoking, they'll smoke for life. That's the
big tech model. Big Tech desperately wants younger and younger
people because if they get you, you're going to stick
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with them and you can't stop. And you know, we
have to the legal system in a sense, and our
politicians have to catch up with that cutting edge of
what's happening in kids, because even millennials struggle with this
because it didn't happen to them when they were ten.
It happened to them when they were, you know, teenagers
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reaching twenty years old.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Suddenly on social media.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
They warn't ten year olds on social media talking to
fake accounts from India exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
And Colin the other plant made about to acco companies,
they had their own internal research which confirmed that yeah,
tobacco is bad for you, but they hid that evidence,
which sounds me along the lines of what Meta is
doing so terrible stuff? It just keeps getting worse every day,
I suppose. I mean, is there a legislative solution? I mean,
I was screaming early in the program about TikTok. I
want this X feature on TikTok. Not that the Chinese
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is going to provide it, but is there some mechanism,
some simple solution or even complex solution that helps save
our young people from this disaster? Or do we just
need to take our kids off the damn apps.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
I have several answers to that, and I'll keep them,
keep them brief. You know, eventually we're going to need
some legislative solutions.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
What I firm believe in my heart is that when
I watch I've been watching Kojak from the seventies, right,
and it's a little shocking because every scene, you know,
Telly Savalas and others are smoking everywhere in hospitals.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Police stations.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
We look at that, you know, I'm fifty, I look
at that, and I'm a little shocked. Right. I believe
in twenty or thirty years, people are going to watch
our TV and movies of teenagers staring at phones, and
they're going to be shocked. How on earth did these
people let these kids ruin their lives with AI condanions
of phones?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, as we as we crawl from the wreckage of
allowing them to do that for so many years. So yeah,
it's like looking back at the Great Depression.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Oh right, So how do we get there? That's the trick.
That's a tricky question. But you know, you and I
have talked before. It really comes down to parents. Parents,
right now, you have to be all over your kids
when it comes especially to AI, because AI will ruin
them in a heartbeat, whether it's cheating on school so
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they don't learn anything, or you know, getting into sort
of this roman antic entanglement, or for those you know,
for people listening who if your child, grandchild, whoever loved
one has any sort of you know.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Mental issue they've dealt with in the past. AI can
make that a thousand.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Times worse in about a week. Takes a little to
take responsibility.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
You have to you have to say no, they're not
your friends or your children, help them out, stop it.
Colin made on tech editor breit Bart, thank you Colin
for joining the program, and on Behalf of my listening audience,
and my family. To you and everybody at Breitbart, I
hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
My friend, same to you and everyone in Sincy.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Look forward to having you back on real soon. Colin,
have a great day eight twenty two. Right now if
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