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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming out of City Hall today, locally, nationally, everywhere in
between fifty five KRS the talk station eight O five
colto six at fifty five kr CD Talk Station, A
very happy Tuesday to you, Daniel Davis, Steve Divan, bottom
of the Error Curse. Of course, we'll be talking about
Venezuela as we will with my next guests, and it
(00:20):
is a pleasure to have him on the program. Christian
Caleb Cruzer goes by Caleb Cruizer, We'll call him Caleb.
He escaped Venezuela in twenty twenty four, but prior to
escaping venor at Venezuela, he was hired by Breitbart to
write a column called My Socialist Hell, which he began
doing in twenty nineteen. Caleb, it is a pleasure to
have you on the fifty five KRC Morning Show. Welcome sir,
(00:41):
good morning man.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Thank you so much for having.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Me, and thank you for being on the program and
doing what you're doing. It's so important that you were
doing what you're doing. And I'll remind my listeners as
I always do when I start out this segment. Inside
Scoop at Breitbart News, book mark the site Breitbart b
R E I t BA RT dot com. You'd be
glad you did, and you could read what Cayleb's been
writing about. Can I ask you it? We'll die have
(01:03):
obviously so much to talk about unpackaged with Venezuela right now.
You were writing for Breitbart doing the my socialist Hell
column from Venezuela. Did that present a threat to you
given the how crazy the administration there was under Baduro.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yes, yes, people have told me that. I kind of
downplay it personally, but it was a huge risk because
I have this president. This is an actual story. Back
in twenty fourteen, one of my neighbors happened to be
a journalist and she got kidnapped in broad daylight the
right offs at her home. This was covered by Brightboard
(01:40):
at the time. It was one of the few outors
in internationally that actually covered this story. Thankfully, she was
able to leave Venezuela and safe and sound. She was found,
she was rescued. But I had that president already, like
that personal president, that there is always a risk of
with the regim because we're talking about a authorative regime
(02:01):
with a brutal, repressive apparacess that has jailed journalist that
has jailed people. Last year, they jail sixty elderly doctor,
sixty something year old doctor simply because she posted a
message on what'sapp critical of the REGIN. So it was
a risk, Yeah, it was. It was definitely worth it
(02:21):
to get the boys out there. And I appreciate that.
I'm always thankful to brag, but for giving me that opportunity,
because it was a very important thing to say, how
to tell the story of how things just how bad
things got down there under the maduro regyms and its
socialism policies.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
And judging from what I'm reading about your life in
vent as well, and nobody better to speak about it
in spite of the fact that Bernie Sanders and the
likes of Sean Penn think it was a utopia that
we all need to emulate. Not quite. So let's talk
about your mother who had who passed away in Venezuela
for want of medicine that isn't even available in the country.
How long has this been kind of going on?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, the healthcare situation in Venezuela is a complete disaster.
There was lamp and there are still lamp and shortages.
You just cannot you just cannot go to kind of
expect to go to a hospital and actually receive treatment,
even in private clinics. That's just how bad things things were.
So my mother, she was a doctor, so I was
(03:22):
always had some insight without the shortcomings of the Venezuelan
healthcare system under the both public and private. She got
diagnosed with cancer in twenty fifteen, and by then the
situation in Venezuela was already collapsed. Getting the treatment she
(03:43):
needed was outright impossible. We had to get some alternate
chemotherapy that wasn't the ideal one, but it was better
than nothing. Nothing obviously without the right treatment. Eventually she
passed away in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
You know, not the interject personal realities. I literally had
my update doctor visit with my cancer doctor. I have
lymphom and I got to go back to treatment. I
literally said to my wife when I got back from
my appointment, I'm glad I don't live in Venezuela. As
upset as I am about having to get chemo again.
At least we've got it here. Caleb.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, but you got this. You got this.
I'll be rooting for you.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Thanks for him. I'm not looking for Sybothy, I'm just
thankful for the American medical system. As crazy as as
it might be from time to time, it's nothing like
the pain that you're living or that the Venezuelans are
living through. Also, I understand you had spend a lot
of your day searching for food on the black market.
How do every day Venezuelan survive? I just it's beyond
me to understand that.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Okay, So the situation in Venezuela has rapidly evolved unchanged
over the past ten to fifteen years. Back then, when
I wrote those articles, it was extremely difficult to find
even the basic things like toilet paper and oil or rice,
what have you? Even toothpaste. I actually I always say
this story because I got into a fight over toilet
(05:03):
paper in late twenty thirteen. It wasn't my proudest moment
in my life, but it happened. But that's how, that's
how the country situation pushed me to behave that that day.
Had to fight over people and push people just to
secure a bit of toilet paper because I were only
limiting one per person just to have something for my family. Eventually, yeah, eventually,
(05:26):
the rush the shortages got so severe especially between twenty
fourteen to twenty eighteen, that the regime instead of picking
things up, they just clamped it down with the socialist policies.
But they did first was implement weekly rations based on
the last number of your national edic car. Let's stay
for instance, mine my Benzula national edit card as in
(05:50):
the number eight. That meant I was only allowed to
purchase some of that stuff on Fridays, but by Friday
there wasn't By Friday there was nothing left pretty much.
And eventually this change into a system that doesn't function anymore, thankfully,
wherein you would have to scan your fingerprint outside in
(06:11):
supermarkets to be allowed to purchase things. Over time, the
regen sort of maybe they saw light, I don't know.
They ease some of these restradictions and now the thing
is that you can find things. But the regim pushed
everyone into such levels of extreme poverty that most people
just can't afford it buy food and buy anything.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Well, you would think even under the least under the
Biden administration, as open as our border was and as
many Venezuelans who left the country and fled, I know
a lot of the wealthy Venezuelans got outnder the job
as resume. At least that's what I understand. But the
rest see, you been know to make your way to
the border, you had to escape Venezuela and you did
so in twenty twenty four. Was it a difficult thing
to do? It was like escaping sort of like Nazi
(06:58):
occupied Berlin or something when the wall was up. What
do you have to go through to get out?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well, the way they do it is that, you know,
they have to save face and pretend that they are
the good guys fighting the good fight against America and
the world, et cetera. The way they do it is
not unlike the battling wall in which they let they
contain people in. You can go out, but they don't
make it easy for you to go out. First of all,
because not everyone has the money to travel right and
(07:26):
secondly because getting you can go out. But if you
go out without your documentation let's say, passports, birth certificates,
your work, your diplomas, you know, diplomas have, you have
to go to the legalization apple still process to be
able to have some validity of them outside the country.
(07:46):
At the time my mother passed away, she was undergoing
that process, so after she died, I have to go
to every office and get all her diplomas back for
safe keeping. The way I left Venezuela because maybe maybe
it was just me. And on the last day my
mother died, I promised her I would take care of
my brother because he has he has some disabilities, and
(08:07):
I promised her that I would take care of him
no matter what, and I will get him out of
the way, find a way healthy out of the country.
Now I tried to do. I tried several approaches. I
just been other resources or things that I didn't wanted
to do it illegally, so ultimately my last resource to
get my brother out was to get him Italian sediasenship
to our father, who is an Italian man. This took
(08:31):
me several years to gather all the documentation and the
birth certificates. I even had to bribe my way in
to get my own birth certificate because that's just how
cor OpEd Venezuela is nowadays. It took me years, but eventually, I, thankfully,
thank God, I got everything done and the right way
and we're here.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
And in spite of the fact that you're now living
in Italy, you're still reporting on things in Venezuela. I'm
certain that you have many contacts remaining in Venezuela. Do
you with the general sense of the population as you
understand it, Caleb, about the reaction to the capture of
Nicholas Maduro and his wife and the prosecution of him
in the United States? What what? What do you get
a sense of from the reaction of the people you've
(09:11):
talked to?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Okay, from the people that I've talked to. Dave told
me that everyone is happy, but you cannot express just
how happy you are because, Okay, Maduro is gone, his
wife is gone, but the regime is still there. The
entire brutal, repressive apparatus is still intact, so you don't
have the freedom to go out and celebrate in the
(09:32):
same manner that you see all the pnessula out side
of the country have been doing.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So I've spoken to some relatives and acquaintances, and we've
told me that the general consensus is that everyone has
no idea what's going to happen. Everyone's in on a
shutout of uncertainty. But everyone is just trying to live
their lives right now. Because I don't playing it safe
and don't make it. Don't don't don't go in out celebrating.
This is the smartest thing to do.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Well, I might pretend no, go ahead, go ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I know people that have told me no, We're just
going to pretend like nothing happened. They went to work
yesterday Monday, just like any other day. They came back home,
they eat some food and the rest, because that's the
smartest thing to do with unless the one according to
the rest of the regime.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I understood, And we're in a state of flux right now,
and I understand why the citizen room might not be
out celebrating given that there's still this police apparatus in place,
which is run. I know, Vice President Delsi Rodriguez is
sort of a question mark right now which direction she's
gonna do. But she's currently the acting president. But the
Interior Minister, a person named Dio Sado Cabello, and the
(10:42):
Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino sound like they're more thuggish loyalists
to the majuro type regime. They remain in power, and
they also are under indictment here in the United States
of America. Do you have any understanding or expectation what
those two individuals, Padrino and Dioso out of Cabello, might
do by way of response to Donald Trump's imploring them
(11:04):
to play nice or suffer the same faith.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Well, President Trump gave Maduro several chances over the past month.
They gave him several opportunities to leave the country under favorable,
favorable terms that personally, I don't think he deserved. But
it is what it is, and we will see. We
we don't know how they're going to react. Because the
Socialists of Regin the highest, the top brass, let's call
(11:31):
it that way. The top brass is composed of several suctions.
You had Maduro and his wife, the dad or the
interior minister, and the defense minister patrinal Ops. They come
from the military wing of the of the VAGIN. They
were alongside Hugo Shavis, who was also a military man,
whereas Maduro was part of the civilian wing of the
(11:52):
VAGIN because he used to be a bus driver and
a union worker syndicate leader back in the day. Now
they all see the current acting president, she's also a civilian.
She was Maduda's vice president. She was she was also
her foreign minister and occupied other positions in the past,
and her brother or her Rodriguez is the current head
(12:15):
of the parliament or the Venezuelan Parliament, which is also
completely controlled by the virgin So the Lodligous family is
essentially one of the most powerful families in the in
the country because you have the sister that he controls
the executive right now as acting president, and you have
the brother who controls the parliament. The way I see
(12:37):
it is that they I hope that they understood that
President Trump isn't playing and they gave Maduro. He gave
Maduda several chances. He didn't took any of that. He
didn't took any of those chances. He kept up playing hard.
And now he knows the consequences of it because Cavejo
and Paderino are also wanted on drug trafficking charges and
(12:58):
they are included in the entire made of that that
just got un sealed against Madudo.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Well, the entire world seems to be unified in their
assessment that Maduro stole the election, meaning Vice President Rodriguez
is currently in power also the beneficiary of a stolen election.
Will they in state the properly elected UH president at
some point do you think or are we going to
start all over the brand new election. What's your what's
(13:24):
your understanding about where we're going to go from here
on that?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Well, well, as you mentioned, Delsey is the acting president
on the BARBI. This is under the assumption that Maduda
was a legitimate president, which he was not, which he
was not. Uh, they are even ignoring the constitution that
says that if a president isn't unable to serve his
functions before the first half of his term, you will
(13:47):
have to call for snap elections, which isn't happening right now.
But we are that it's a complicated, uncharted waters scenario
in which the we should maybe probably hold new l
actions where we are not. The conditions to hold free
elections are simply not there, so we will have to
go on to some sort of transition period little by
(14:09):
little until things until the conditions for a new election
perhaps can happen. And because the Elegy controls the military,
there is no they control the electoral Council. The conditions
for a free elections are simply not there right now.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Well, and at some point I suppose the US is
going to have to get involved in maybe bringing about
some stability for the elections. I don't know how that's
going to happen. What do you see at this point
to be the biggest challenge maybe that Donald Trump is
facing and trying to bring about the stability that we're
talking about here, sir.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
The biggest challenge would be they'ls herself, because although she's
allegedly co operating with America, she is also acting all
taf and almighty inside the country. They just passed a
decree that supposedly Maduro signed on the same day he
got captured. Don't ask how, don't I don't. I don't
(15:02):
know how. Yeah, perhaps, maybe, maybe maybe, But the decree
there is a specific article that says that grants the
police are law enforcement in Venezuela, the authority to arrest
and detail people who are quote unquote cooperating with the
attack on Venezuela.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Well, sir, I cannot thank enough Caleb Caruzer for spending
time my listeners and me today. I appreciate what you
have been doing since twenty nineteen year bridebart and despite
of the fact that yes, you were under threat of
maybe uh disappearing as the case may be, you did
the right thing. You continue to do the right thing.
We will continue reading what you write and hopefully have
you back in the program real soon to talk about
(15:44):
things as they unfold and develop, hopefully for the benefit
of the Venezuela and people. Caleb, thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I really appreciate it. You can. You can. Obviously, you
can find the stuff right at bridebar dot com.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
You will.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
You'll find all the breaking news at the homepage. But myself,
you can find it mostly at the top at the
international section. I do it several sections, and there's one
for Latin America.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I do it every single day. That's why I always
recommend my listeners bookmark the website brightbart dot com, caleeb Cruiser,
God bless you, sir. You're always welcome here on the
fifty five KRC morning shows. Stay well and keep up
the great work.
Coming out of City Hall today, locally, nationally, everywhere in
between fifty five KRS the talk station eight O five
colto six at fifty five kr CD Talk Station, A
very happy Tuesday to you, Daniel Davis, Steve Divan, bottom
of the Error Curse. Of course, we'll be talking about
Venezuela as we will with my next guests, and it
(00:20):
is a pleasure to have him on the program. Christian
Caleb Cruzer goes by Caleb Cruizer, We'll call him Caleb.
He escaped Venezuela in twenty twenty four, but prior to
escaping venor at Venezuela, he was hired by Breitbart to
write a column called My Socialist Hell, which he began
doing in twenty nineteen. Caleb, it is a pleasure to
have you on the fifty five KRC Morning Show. Welcome sir,
(00:41):
good morning man.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Thank you so much for having.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Me, and thank you for being on the program and
doing what you're doing. It's so important that you were
doing what you're doing. And I'll remind my listeners as
I always do when I start out this segment. Inside
Scoop at Breitbart News, book mark the site Breitbart b
R E I t BA RT dot com. You'd be
glad you did, and you could read what Cayleb's been
writing about. Can I ask you it? We'll die have
(01:03):
obviously so much to talk about unpackaged with Venezuela right now.
You were writing for Breitbart doing the my socialist Hell
column from Venezuela. Did that present a threat to you
given the how crazy the administration there was under Baduro.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yes, yes, people have told me that. I kind of
downplay it personally, but it was a huge risk because
I have this president. This is an actual story. Back
in twenty fourteen, one of my neighbors happened to be
a journalist and she got kidnapped in broad daylight the
right offs at her home. This was covered by Brightboard
(01:40):
at the time. It was one of the few outors
in internationally that actually covered this story. Thankfully, she was
able to leave Venezuela and safe and sound. She was found,
she was rescued. But I had that president already, like
that personal president, that there is always a risk of
with the regim because we're talking about a authorative regime
(02:01):
with a brutal, repressive apparacess that has jailed journalist that
has jailed people. Last year, they jail sixty elderly doctor,
sixty something year old doctor simply because she posted a
message on what'sapp critical of the REGIN. So it was
a risk, Yeah, it was. It was definitely worth it
(02:21):
to get the boys out there. And I appreciate that.
I'm always thankful to brag, but for giving me that opportunity,
because it was a very important thing to say, how
to tell the story of how things just how bad
things got down there under the maduro regyms and its
socialism policies.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
And judging from what I'm reading about your life in
vent as well, and nobody better to speak about it
in spite of the fact that Bernie Sanders and the
likes of Sean Penn think it was a utopia that
we all need to emulate. Not quite. So let's talk
about your mother who had who passed away in Venezuela
for want of medicine that isn't even available in the country.
How long has this been kind of going on?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, the healthcare situation in Venezuela is a complete disaster.
There was lamp and there are still lamp and shortages.
You just cannot you just cannot go to kind of
expect to go to a hospital and actually receive treatment,
even in private clinics. That's just how bad things things were.
So my mother, she was a doctor, so I was
(03:22):
always had some insight without the shortcomings of the Venezuelan
healthcare system under the both public and private. She got
diagnosed with cancer in twenty fifteen, and by then the
situation in Venezuela was already collapsed. Getting the treatment she
(03:43):
needed was outright impossible. We had to get some alternate
chemotherapy that wasn't the ideal one, but it was better
than nothing. Nothing obviously without the right treatment. Eventually she
passed away in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
You know, not the interject personal realities. I literally had
my update doctor visit with my cancer doctor. I have
lymphom and I got to go back to treatment. I
literally said to my wife when I got back from
my appointment, I'm glad I don't live in Venezuela. As
upset as I am about having to get chemo again.
At least we've got it here. Caleb.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, but you got this. You got this.
I'll be rooting for you.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Thanks for him. I'm not looking for Sybothy, I'm just
thankful for the American medical system. As crazy as as
it might be from time to time, it's nothing like
the pain that you're living or that the Venezuelans are
living through. Also, I understand you had spend a lot
of your day searching for food on the black market.
How do every day Venezuelan survive? I just it's beyond
me to understand that.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Okay, So the situation in Venezuela has rapidly evolved unchanged
over the past ten to fifteen years. Back then, when
I wrote those articles, it was extremely difficult to find
even the basic things like toilet paper and oil or rice,
what have you? Even toothpaste. I actually I always say
this story because I got into a fight over toilet
(05:03):
paper in late twenty thirteen. It wasn't my proudest moment
in my life, but it happened. But that's how, that's
how the country situation pushed me to behave that that day.
Had to fight over people and push people just to
secure a bit of toilet paper because I were only
limiting one per person just to have something for my family. Eventually, yeah, eventually,
(05:26):
the rush the shortages got so severe especially between twenty
fourteen to twenty eighteen, that the regime instead of picking
things up, they just clamped it down with the socialist policies.
But they did first was implement weekly rations based on
the last number of your national edic car. Let's stay
for instance, mine my Benzula national edit card as in
(05:50):
the number eight. That meant I was only allowed to
purchase some of that stuff on Fridays, but by Friday
there wasn't By Friday there was nothing left pretty much.
And eventually this change into a system that doesn't function anymore, thankfully,
wherein you would have to scan your fingerprint outside in
(06:11):
supermarkets to be allowed to purchase things. Over time, the
regen sort of maybe they saw light, I don't know.
They ease some of these restradictions and now the thing
is that you can find things. But the regim pushed
everyone into such levels of extreme poverty that most people
just can't afford it buy food and buy anything.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Well, you would think even under the least under the
Biden administration, as open as our border was and as
many Venezuelans who left the country and fled, I know
a lot of the wealthy Venezuelans got outnder the job
as resume. At least that's what I understand. But the
rest see, you been know to make your way to
the border, you had to escape Venezuela and you did
so in twenty twenty four. Was it a difficult thing
to do? It was like escaping sort of like Nazi
(06:58):
occupied Berlin or something when the wall was up. What
do you have to go through to get out?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well, the way they do it is that, you know,
they have to save face and pretend that they are
the good guys fighting the good fight against America and
the world, et cetera. The way they do it is
not unlike the battling wall in which they let they
contain people in. You can go out, but they don't
make it easy for you to go out. First of all,
because not everyone has the money to travel right and
(07:26):
secondly because getting you can go out. But if you
go out without your documentation let's say, passports, birth certificates,
your work, your diplomas, you know, diplomas have, you have
to go to the legalization apple still process to be
able to have some validity of them outside the country.
(07:46):
At the time my mother passed away, she was undergoing
that process, so after she died, I have to go
to every office and get all her diplomas back for
safe keeping. The way I left Venezuela because maybe maybe
it was just me. And on the last day my
mother died, I promised her I would take care of
my brother because he has he has some disabilities, and
(08:07):
I promised her that I would take care of him
no matter what, and I will get him out of
the way, find a way healthy out of the country.
Now I tried to do. I tried several approaches. I
just been other resources or things that I didn't wanted
to do it illegally, so ultimately my last resource to
get my brother out was to get him Italian sediasenship
to our father, who is an Italian man. This took
(08:31):
me several years to gather all the documentation and the
birth certificates. I even had to bribe my way in
to get my own birth certificate because that's just how
cor OpEd Venezuela is nowadays. It took me years, but eventually, I, thankfully,
thank God, I got everything done and the right way
and we're here.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
And in spite of the fact that you're now living
in Italy, you're still reporting on things in Venezuela. I'm
certain that you have many contacts remaining in Venezuela. Do
you with the general sense of the population as you
understand it, Caleb, about the reaction to the capture of
Nicholas Maduro and his wife and the prosecution of him
in the United States? What what? What do you get
a sense of from the reaction of the people you've
(09:11):
talked to?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Okay, from the people that I've talked to. Dave told
me that everyone is happy, but you cannot express just
how happy you are because, Okay, Maduro is gone, his
wife is gone, but the regime is still there. The
entire brutal, repressive apparatus is still intact, so you don't
have the freedom to go out and celebrate in the
(09:32):
same manner that you see all the pnessula out side
of the country have been doing.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So I've spoken to some relatives and acquaintances, and we've
told me that the general consensus is that everyone has
no idea what's going to happen. Everyone's in on a
shutout of uncertainty. But everyone is just trying to live
their lives right now. Because I don't playing it safe
and don't make it. Don't don't don't go in out celebrating.
This is the smartest thing to do.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Well, I might pretend no, go ahead, go ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I know people that have told me no, We're just
going to pretend like nothing happened. They went to work
yesterday Monday, just like any other day. They came back home,
they eat some food and the rest, because that's the
smartest thing to do with unless the one according to
the rest of the regime.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I understood, And we're in a state of flux right now,
and I understand why the citizen room might not be
out celebrating given that there's still this police apparatus in place,
which is run. I know, Vice President Delsi Rodriguez is
sort of a question mark right now which direction she's
gonna do. But she's currently the acting president. But the
Interior Minister, a person named Dio Sado Cabello, and the
(10:42):
Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino sound like they're more thuggish loyalists
to the majuro type regime. They remain in power, and
they also are under indictment here in the United States
of America. Do you have any understanding or expectation what
those two individuals, Padrino and Dioso out of Cabello, might
do by way of response to Donald Trump's imploring them
(11:04):
to play nice or suffer the same faith.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Well, President Trump gave Maduro several chances over the past month.
They gave him several opportunities to leave the country under favorable,
favorable terms that personally, I don't think he deserved. But
it is what it is, and we will see. We
we don't know how they're going to react. Because the
Socialists of Regin the highest, the top brass, let's call
(11:31):
it that way. The top brass is composed of several suctions.
You had Maduro and his wife, the dad or the
interior minister, and the defense minister patrinal Ops. They come
from the military wing of the of the VAGIN. They
were alongside Hugo Shavis, who was also a military man,
whereas Maduro was part of the civilian wing of the
(11:52):
VAGIN because he used to be a bus driver and
a union worker syndicate leader back in the day. Now
they all see the current acting president, she's also a civilian.
She was Maduda's vice president. She was she was also
her foreign minister and occupied other positions in the past,
and her brother or her Rodriguez is the current head
(12:15):
of the parliament or the Venezuelan Parliament, which is also
completely controlled by the virgin So the Lodligous family is
essentially one of the most powerful families in the in
the country because you have the sister that he controls
the executive right now as acting president, and you have
the brother who controls the parliament. The way I see
(12:37):
it is that they I hope that they understood that
President Trump isn't playing and they gave Maduro. He gave
Maduda several chances. He didn't took any of that. He
didn't took any of those chances. He kept up playing hard.
And now he knows the consequences of it because Cavejo
and Paderino are also wanted on drug trafficking charges and
(12:58):
they are included in the entire made of that that
just got un sealed against Madudo.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Well, the entire world seems to be unified in their
assessment that Maduro stole the election, meaning Vice President Rodriguez
is currently in power also the beneficiary of a stolen election.
Will they in state the properly elected UH president at
some point do you think or are we going to
start all over the brand new election. What's your what's
(13:24):
your understanding about where we're going to go from here
on that?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Well, well, as you mentioned, Delsey is the acting president
on the BARBI. This is under the assumption that Maduda
was a legitimate president, which he was not, which he
was not. Uh, they are even ignoring the constitution that
says that if a president isn't unable to serve his
functions before the first half of his term, you will
(13:47):
have to call for snap elections, which isn't happening right now.
But we are that it's a complicated, uncharted waters scenario
in which the we should maybe probably hold new l
actions where we are not. The conditions to hold free
elections are simply not there, so we will have to
go on to some sort of transition period little by
(14:09):
little until things until the conditions for a new election
perhaps can happen. And because the Elegy controls the military,
there is no they control the electoral Council. The conditions
for a free elections are simply not there right now.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Well, and at some point I suppose the US is
going to have to get involved in maybe bringing about
some stability for the elections. I don't know how that's
going to happen. What do you see at this point
to be the biggest challenge maybe that Donald Trump is
facing and trying to bring about the stability that we're
talking about here, sir.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
The biggest challenge would be they'ls herself, because although she's
allegedly co operating with America, she is also acting all
taf and almighty inside the country. They just passed a
decree that supposedly Maduro signed on the same day he
got captured. Don't ask how, don't I don't. I don't
(15:02):
know how. Yeah, perhaps, maybe, maybe maybe, But the decree
there is a specific article that says that grants the
police are law enforcement in Venezuela, the authority to arrest
and detail people who are quote unquote cooperating with the
attack on Venezuela.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Well, sir, I cannot thank enough Caleb Caruzer for spending
time my listeners and me today. I appreciate what you
have been doing since twenty nineteen year bridebart and despite
of the fact that yes, you were under threat of
maybe uh disappearing as the case may be, you did
the right thing. You continue to do the right thing.
We will continue reading what you write and hopefully have
you back in the program real soon to talk about
(15:44):
things as they unfold and develop, hopefully for the benefit
of the Venezuela and people. Caleb, thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I really appreciate it. You can. You can. Obviously, you
can find the stuff right at bridebar dot com.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
You will.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
You'll find all the breaking news at the homepage. But myself,
you can find it mostly at the top at the
international section. I do it several sections, and there's one
for Latin America.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I do it every single day. That's why I always
recommend my listeners bookmark the website brightbart dot com, caleeb Cruiser,
God bless you, sir. You're always welcome here on the
fifty five KRC morning shows. Stay well and keep up
the great work.
Brian Thomas News
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