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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Up and down, counting out, smiling through the taste of
flood and mountain. Now I got broses and broken bones,
but they don't know in this ring a little I'm fier.
(00:42):
No one could say that I'm over on and hider.
I was born to be til dire. I'm making Rider.
Don't broke our towel. Just yeah, don't catch in that
last bill's.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Time he is a fighter. Indeed, a little bit of
the taste of Fighter by the number one digital Billboard
song by my next guest from bright Bart News is
that time of the week, the inside Scoop with bright
Bart News, which I always start out with, normally just
a traditional bumper song, but that was so important because
my next guest is responsible for writing and singing the
(01:24):
beautiful lyrics to Fighter. Congratulations on achieving number one status.
Welcome to the fifty five Case morning show from Breitbart.
Described as the Minister of Culture and coo, John con
It's great to have you on the show.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Good morning, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Man, you got to be really proud of that song
I was reading. I read all the lyrics, I pulled
him up online and a really inspirational song and Man
you picked the perfect moment in time to pen those lyrics,
my friend.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, it was. It was a pretty uh, it was
a lightning and a bottle kind of situation. And I
think we released a song at a time where I
think our movement needed it, and people responded to it,
and the President responded to it. So I'm super grateful
for it. And I've been writing songs a long time
and didn't expect that one to hit so hard, but yeah,
(02:14):
I'm super grateful.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
The fact that it hits so hard is a reflection
of the moment in time we're in. And I have
to ask you right out of the gate, I was
going to ask you anyway, I'll advance my question on this.
Do you think this Charlie Kirk moment, this extreme tragedy
that has resulted in so many people showing such an
amazing outpouring of love. The number of chapters that people
have submitted for request to open new Turning Point USA chapters,
(02:37):
it's just it's like ninety thousand now. The message that
Charlie Kirk had, which was not hate, which was not division,
which was not racism, which was not misogyny, which was
sitting down and engaging in thoughtful conversation with your opposition
and trying to maintain a cooler temperature that is so
much what we need right now. With all that, and
(02:57):
with this amazing groundswell of support for these the whole
concept behind what Charlie Kirk was all about, is it
going to last? Do you think this is finally the
moment in time where this is going to take hold
and last as a concept, Sir.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Well, I think you know, I've thought a lot about that,
that question of the left a week or so. I
hope and pray that it does. I think that people
do get caught up in the news and they go
back to their old ways. I think this is an
unusual event, and I think that I think a lot
of people are looking at the difference between the two sides.
(03:36):
And I will tell you I just came back from
his memorial and being in that auditorium when you have
eighty thousand people singing the song Gratitude by Brandon Lake
and Unison, and you compare that to how the left protests,
you know, one of theirs or things that they don't like, Yes,
and the juxtaposition of it is on full display. And
(04:00):
I think that you know, when Erica Kirk says the
answer to Hay does not hate right and that many
people are watching, I think I think it's going to
have impact, and I think a lot of people have
to make decisions. And if you're you know, I came
to faith kind of late in life in the last
few years. And one thing I noticed, you know, being there,
you know, I was surprised at how much faith and
(04:21):
how much how much like it felt like a revival
being in that in that building, and I was surprised that,
you know, that there was more about faith than there
was about Charlie. And I've thought a lot about that,
and it occurred to me that Charlie was a selfless guy.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yep, Charlie.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Charlie was in it for things that were bigger than himself.
And and retro you know, thinking about it retrospectively, I
think it was a very important thing he did. I
think the message of that of that memorial was spot on.
And I can tell you just yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
No, I'm just gonna observe that there's so much hatred
and vine and bile coming from the left as they
have nothing to do but scream, yell and really hate
and one of the reasons that I think the hate
comes from is Charlie Kirk's Christianity. And I keep going
back to the idea, you know, he wanted you to
become a Christian because he wanted to save you. This
(05:17):
was a selfless act, his proselytizing. He sees you know
your fate in his mind and his religion, you're going
to suffer a terrible faith not only in the afterlife,
but just in life generally. There is a message within
Christianity that is uplifting, It is life giving, It is
a message of hope. It is a message of positivity,
and he wants everywhere. He wanted everyone to share in
(05:40):
that positivity. So even if you choose to reject the
religion as the message, you can't overlook his motive behind
trying to spread it.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Right, That's been a concept, that's all. When I first
discovered faith. In the last few years, I had many
conversations about it, and I was talking to it one
of my colleagues who's Christian, and I said, why with
the left one to toxify something with a movement that
at the very least is trying to move towards something good,
something moral, and something sacrificial. And you know, his suggestion
(06:12):
was it was for political reasons, because if you toxify religion,
you toxify all the things that come along with it, morality, family,
et cetera. And I will tell you, you know, as
somebody who it hasn't been part of his life every day,
I'm still working on it. I still find myself, you know,
those moments where I go, oh, I got to get
(06:34):
back to that where you get out track. You know,
when I went to the airport yes When I went
to the airport yesterday, I was sitting next to a veteran,
a young veteran. He was talking to a woman. I
could overhear the conversation, and he said he was telling
her that he had to go to this Charlie Kirk memorial,
but he didn't have any money and he didn't know
(06:55):
how I was going to pay for it. And he
prayed on it. And a couple of days later he
got a check in the mill from a class action
suit that he didn't even know was coming. And and
then I just in what it did was it reminded
me for me, you know, where again where it's not
(07:17):
part of your daily ritual sometimes because if you're new
to it. You know, it's like any kind of routine,
It's like any kind of lifestyle, you have to practice it.
I just shook my head and go, there's another sign
for me personally. And you know, millions and millions of
people saw this memorial and heard this message, but for
me personally, I went down to the gate. I see
a man with a Bible verse on his t shirt.
(07:39):
Two minutes later, I see a man with a Bible
Verse tattooed on his calf, and just and it realized
for me. And I'm just thinking, you know, individually, because
I know there were so many people that were moved
by it. You know, I got home and the internet
didn't work on the plane, and I turned on my
(08:01):
phone when I landed back here in Nashville and found
out my dad was dying. And I came home to
my place, I talked to him. I told him I
loved him, and I put on Brandon Lake's gratitude and
I realized the magnitude of Charlie's memorial because you know,
(08:22):
I loved my dad. I felt at peace and that
song and where I had just come from, I went,
there's a reason why they did that, and there's a
reason for millions. I guarantee it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
No question about it. And I guess I have to observe.
I think most all people of faith do have their
moments of doubt. I mean, that's that's the struggle with religion,
you know, is a leap of faith. But you know,
Mother Teresa had her struggles, and even Jesus Christ, my Lord,
why hast thou forsake? I mean, we all have those struggles,
but we can get through it. And I think Charlie
Kirk was an excellent illustration of that, you know, undying
(08:57):
faith and that commitment, and he, you know, he's the
kind of guy that would help you through moments of doubt.
And you know, and let's face it, his widow turning
the other cheek and forgiving his murderer his assassin. Was
there a more moving moment in that event that you saw.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I don't think so. I think just her presence and
her fortitude and her strength and and the way I
mean that moment was just beyond belief. And I think
that for people who don't believe. I was thinking how
the left might, you know, or non believers would interpret
that event and what she said and they would. I
think it's so threatening to what they believe that they
(09:36):
probably don't even know how to comprehend what she did.
But to other people, you know, that are yelling at
people in traffic, you know, getting frustrated on a daily basis,
what a reminder, you know, you know, if she can
treat the ultimate act of evil and forgive it, then
(09:57):
throughout the day we can forgive all these little, you know,
objections that we have to people or wrongs that we
feel have been committed against us.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Well, it seems to me that the less hatred of
religion is you know, maybe boiled down to their being
weed to Marxism, which rejected religion outright. I mean, isn't
that one of the reasons Jesus was crucified because God
is above the state that he dared say something was
above the empire. And you know, and that's what Marxists believe.
You you must be beholden to the state. There is
(10:27):
no more powerful entity than the state, and you're worshiping
a higher power and believing in a higher power is
an affront to Marxism.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Right now, I agree with that, and you know, I
think that you know, again, there's there are so many
political reasons, like you just said, to toxify it. And
it's very threatening because you know, if you want to
get cynical and just talk about the politics of it,
you know, they again, if you have structure in your life,
(10:57):
and you have and you are hold into something bigger
than yourself, My theory would be that would create more
conservative voters. And I think that's the reason why they're
so threatened by it.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I think it is. And I do note that actually
there has been a resurgence in folks Christian beliefs. It's
rather than than waning, which it has been over the
past several decades. More people are turning to faith because
I think they realize they need some faith in their life.
It creates hope at minimum, you know, it makes your
(11:28):
life a better thing to have some measure of hope.
That transcends the idiots that we elect a higher.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Office, right, right. And and also I think it holds
us individually to higher standards and true think right. And
I just think that people throughout the day are so quick,
you know, to embrace frustration, aggression, whatever you want to
call it. And you know, when you have faith in
(11:54):
your life, it stops you and you ask yourself that
question every day. What kind of man do you want
to be? What kind of woman do you want? Yeah,
wednesdace In. You know, I catch myself in real time
if I'm frustrated or I'm offended or whatever it is,
I go, wait a minute, this is not this is
not that important. And I think when you're when you're
viewing live through that lens, I think it makes you
(12:16):
a better person.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I agree with you wholeheartedly. C Oo and Minister of
Culture John Comma guessay from Breitbart book mark the website
please b R E I T B A r T
dot com Breitbart dot com. John, I use your site
every single day in preparation for the morning show, and
I love having Biguard on the show every week. I
got to ask you before we part company, and I've
enjoyed our conversation and your inspiration. What is it that
(12:40):
you do in your role as Minister of Culture.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Well, so my background was in film and music, and
you know, I came from la and was subject to
all those intolerant views in the entertainment industry where I
had to hide it for a long time, and you know,
I sort of came out of the conservative closet in
an interesting way, kind of publicly. And when Andrew so,
(13:08):
I was going around to tea party movements, singing a
song called American Heart with a hat and sunglasses because
I didn't want anybody to find out. And Andrew and
I would go to these tea parties. He would speak,
and he would introduce me as a conservative who, you know,
to show people throughout the country that there are conservatives
in Hollywood, and you know. And so we would go
(13:30):
all over the country and he and I were very,
very close, and when he passed away, I just decided that,
you know, it was like Larry sold out of the
current CEO and Steve Bannon, who was with us at
the time that you know, they pulled me aside. They said,
Andrew always wanted you to be part of the company,
but because you were in the arts, he didn't quite know,
you know, what to what to do with me. And
(13:54):
so I said, want you just let me start helping
out and let's see where it goes. And thirteen years later,
here I am. And I think Steve may have termed
the given me the title of Minister of Culture because
I do a lot. I'm sort of the utility player.
I kind of do a lot of different stuff there,
and but when it comes to the creative stuff, I
(14:16):
think that's where the MC as I was called, Minister
of Culture comes into.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Play and proof that there is salvation for people who
grew up in the heart of woke, leftist anti religion California.
John believe it, John con It has been great having
you on. I'll look forward to another conversation with you
down the road. Keep up the great work, and I'll
be looking forward to another number one Billboard hit from you, sir.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Awesome. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
My pleasure, my listener's pleasure as well. Thank you
Up and down, counting out, smiling through the taste of
flood and mountain. Now I got broses and broken bones,
but they don't know in this ring a little I'm fier.
(00:42):
No one could say that I'm over on and hider.
I was born to be til dire. I'm making Rider.
Don't broke our towel. Just yeah, don't catch in that
last bill's.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Time he is a fighter. Indeed, a little bit of
the taste of Fighter by the number one digital Billboard
song by my next guest from bright Bart News is
that time of the week, the inside Scoop with bright
Bart News, which I always start out with, normally just
a traditional bumper song, but that was so important because
my next guest is responsible for writing and singing the
(01:24):
beautiful lyrics to Fighter. Congratulations on achieving number one status.
Welcome to the fifty five Case morning show from Breitbart.
Described as the Minister of Culture and coo, John con
It's great to have you on the show.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Good morning, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Man, you got to be really proud of that song
I was reading. I read all the lyrics, I pulled
him up online and a really inspirational song and Man
you picked the perfect moment in time to pen those lyrics,
my friend.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, it was. It was a pretty uh, it was
a lightning and a bottle kind of situation. And I
think we released a song at a time where I
think our movement needed it, and people responded to it,
and the President responded to it. So I'm super grateful
for it. And I've been writing songs a long time
and didn't expect that one to hit so hard, but yeah,
(02:14):
I'm super grateful.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
The fact that it hits so hard is a reflection
of the moment in time we're in. And I have
to ask you right out of the gate, I was
going to ask you anyway, I'll advance my question on this.
Do you think this Charlie Kirk moment, this extreme tragedy
that has resulted in so many people showing such an
amazing outpouring of love. The number of chapters that people
have submitted for request to open new Turning Point USA chapters,
(02:37):
it's just it's like ninety thousand now. The message that
Charlie Kirk had, which was not hate, which was not division,
which was not racism, which was not misogyny, which was
sitting down and engaging in thoughtful conversation with your opposition
and trying to maintain a cooler temperature that is so
much what we need right now. With all that, and
(02:57):
with this amazing groundswell of support for these the whole
concept behind what Charlie Kirk was all about, is it
going to last? Do you think this is finally the
moment in time where this is going to take hold
and last as a concept, Sir.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Well, I think you know, I've thought a lot about that,
that question of the left a week or so. I
hope and pray that it does. I think that people
do get caught up in the news and they go
back to their old ways. I think this is an
unusual event, and I think that I think a lot
of people are looking at the difference between the two sides.
(03:36):
And I will tell you I just came back from
his memorial and being in that auditorium when you have
eighty thousand people singing the song Gratitude by Brandon Lake
and Unison, and you compare that to how the left protests,
you know, one of theirs or things that they don't like, Yes,
and the juxtaposition of it is on full display. And
(04:00):
I think that you know, when Erica Kirk says the
answer to Hay does not hate right and that many
people are watching, I think I think it's going to
have impact, and I think a lot of people have
to make decisions. And if you're you know, I came
to faith kind of late in life in the last
few years. And one thing I noticed, you know, being there,
you know, I was surprised at how much faith and
(04:21):
how much how much like it felt like a revival
being in that in that building, and I was surprised that,
you know, that there was more about faith than there
was about Charlie. And I've thought a lot about that,
and it occurred to me that Charlie was a selfless guy.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yep, Charlie.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Charlie was in it for things that were bigger than himself.
And and retro you know, thinking about it retrospectively, I
think it was a very important thing he did. I
think the message of that of that memorial was spot on.
And I can tell you just yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
No, I'm just gonna observe that there's so much hatred
and vine and bile coming from the left as they
have nothing to do but scream, yell and really hate
and one of the reasons that I think the hate
comes from is Charlie Kirk's Christianity. And I keep going
back to the idea, you know, he wanted you to
become a Christian because he wanted to save you. This
(05:17):
was a selfless act, his proselytizing. He sees you know
your fate in his mind and his religion, you're going
to suffer a terrible faith not only in the afterlife,
but just in life generally. There is a message within
Christianity that is uplifting, It is life giving, It is
a message of hope. It is a message of positivity,
and he wants everywhere. He wanted everyone to share in
(05:40):
that positivity. So even if you choose to reject the
religion as the message, you can't overlook his motive behind
trying to spread it.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Right, That's been a concept, that's all. When I first
discovered faith. In the last few years, I had many
conversations about it, and I was talking to it one
of my colleagues who's Christian, and I said, why with
the left one to toxify something with a movement that
at the very least is trying to move towards something good,
something moral, and something sacrificial. And you know, his suggestion
(06:12):
was it was for political reasons, because if you toxify religion,
you toxify all the things that come along with it, morality, family,
et cetera. And I will tell you, you know, as
somebody who it hasn't been part of his life every day,
I'm still working on it. I still find myself, you know,
those moments where I go, oh, I got to get
(06:34):
back to that where you get out track. You know,
when I went to the airport yes When I went
to the airport yesterday, I was sitting next to a veteran,
a young veteran. He was talking to a woman. I
could overhear the conversation, and he said he was telling
her that he had to go to this Charlie Kirk memorial,
but he didn't have any money and he didn't know
(06:55):
how I was going to pay for it. And he
prayed on it. And a couple of days later he
got a check in the mill from a class action
suit that he didn't even know was coming. And and
then I just in what it did was it reminded
me for me, you know, where again where it's not
(07:17):
part of your daily ritual sometimes because if you're new
to it. You know, it's like any kind of routine,
It's like any kind of lifestyle, you have to practice it.
I just shook my head and go, there's another sign
for me personally. And you know, millions and millions of
people saw this memorial and heard this message, but for
me personally, I went down to the gate. I see
a man with a Bible verse on his t shirt.
(07:39):
Two minutes later, I see a man with a Bible
Verse tattooed on his calf, and just and it realized
for me. And I'm just thinking, you know, individually, because
I know there were so many people that were moved
by it. You know, I got home and the internet
didn't work on the plane, and I turned on my
(08:01):
phone when I landed back here in Nashville and found
out my dad was dying. And I came home to
my place, I talked to him. I told him I
loved him, and I put on Brandon Lake's gratitude and
I realized the magnitude of Charlie's memorial because you know,
(08:22):
I loved my dad. I felt at peace and that
song and where I had just come from, I went,
there's a reason why they did that, and there's a
reason for millions. I guarantee it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
No question about it. And I guess I have to observe.
I think most all people of faith do have their
moments of doubt. I mean, that's that's the struggle with religion,
you know, is a leap of faith. But you know,
Mother Teresa had her struggles, and even Jesus Christ, my Lord,
why hast thou forsake? I mean, we all have those struggles,
but we can get through it. And I think Charlie
Kirk was an excellent illustration of that, you know, undying
(08:57):
faith and that commitment, and he, you know, he's the
kind of guy that would help you through moments of doubt.
And you know, and let's face it, his widow turning
the other cheek and forgiving his murderer his assassin. Was
there a more moving moment in that event that you saw.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I don't think so. I think just her presence and
her fortitude and her strength and and the way I
mean that moment was just beyond belief. And I think
that for people who don't believe. I was thinking how
the left might, you know, or non believers would interpret
that event and what she said and they would. I
think it's so threatening to what they believe that they
(09:36):
probably don't even know how to comprehend what she did.
But to other people, you know, that are yelling at
people in traffic, you know, getting frustrated on a daily basis,
what a reminder, you know, you know, if she can
treat the ultimate act of evil and forgive it, then
(09:57):
throughout the day we can forgive all these little, you know,
objections that we have to people or wrongs that we
feel have been committed against us.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Well, it seems to me that the less hatred of
religion is you know, maybe boiled down to their being
weed to Marxism, which rejected religion outright. I mean, isn't
that one of the reasons Jesus was crucified because God
is above the state that he dared say something was
above the empire. And you know, and that's what Marxists believe.
You you must be beholden to the state. There is
(10:27):
no more powerful entity than the state, and you're worshiping
a higher power and believing in a higher power is
an affront to Marxism.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Right now, I agree with that, and you know, I
think that you know, again, there's there are so many
political reasons, like you just said, to toxify it. And
it's very threatening because you know, if you want to
get cynical and just talk about the politics of it,
you know, they again, if you have structure in your life,
(10:57):
and you have and you are hold into something bigger
than yourself, My theory would be that would create more
conservative voters. And I think that's the reason why they're
so threatened by it.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I think it is. And I do note that actually
there has been a resurgence in folks Christian beliefs. It's
rather than than waning, which it has been over the
past several decades. More people are turning to faith because
I think they realize they need some faith in their life.
It creates hope at minimum, you know, it makes your
(11:28):
life a better thing to have some measure of hope.
That transcends the idiots that we elect a higher.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Office, right, right. And and also I think it holds
us individually to higher standards and true think right. And
I just think that people throughout the day are so quick,
you know, to embrace frustration, aggression, whatever you want to
call it. And you know, when you have faith in
(11:54):
your life, it stops you and you ask yourself that
question every day. What kind of man do you want
to be? What kind of woman do you want? Yeah,
wednesdace In. You know, I catch myself in real time
if I'm frustrated or I'm offended or whatever it is,
I go, wait a minute, this is not this is
not that important. And I think when you're when you're
viewing live through that lens, I think it makes you
(12:16):
a better person.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I agree with you wholeheartedly. C Oo and Minister of
Culture John Comma guessay from Breitbart book mark the website
please b R E I T B A r T
dot com Breitbart dot com. John, I use your site
every single day in preparation for the morning show, and
I love having Biguard on the show every week. I
got to ask you before we part company, and I've
enjoyed our conversation and your inspiration. What is it that
(12:40):
you do in your role as Minister of Culture.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Well, so my background was in film and music, and
you know, I came from la and was subject to
all those intolerant views in the entertainment industry where I
had to hide it for a long time, and you know,
I sort of came out of the conservative closet in
an interesting way, kind of publicly. And when Andrew so,
(13:08):
I was going around to tea party movements, singing a
song called American Heart with a hat and sunglasses because
I didn't want anybody to find out. And Andrew and
I would go to these tea parties. He would speak,
and he would introduce me as a conservative who, you know,
to show people throughout the country that there are conservatives
in Hollywood, and you know. And so we would go
(13:30):
all over the country and he and I were very,
very close, and when he passed away, I just decided that,
you know, it was like Larry sold out of the
current CEO and Steve Bannon, who was with us at
the time that you know, they pulled me aside. They said,
Andrew always wanted you to be part of the company,
but because you were in the arts, he didn't quite know,
you know, what to what to do with me. And
(13:54):
so I said, want you just let me start helping
out and let's see where it goes. And thirteen years later,
here I am. And I think Steve may have termed
the given me the title of Minister of Culture because
I do a lot. I'm sort of the utility player.
I kind of do a lot of different stuff there,
and but when it comes to the creative stuff, I
(14:16):
think that's where the MC as I was called, Minister
of Culture comes into.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Play and proof that there is salvation for people who
grew up in the heart of woke, leftist anti religion California.
John believe it, John con It has been great having
you on. I'll look forward to another conversation with you
down the road. Keep up the great work, and I'll
be looking forward to another number one Billboard hit from you, sir.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Awesome. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
My pleasure, my listener's pleasure as well. Thank you
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