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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Uh Claudi and eighty five for the highday over night
low sixty two. Eighty seven was Sun Tomorrow, over night
low sixty three Sunday and ninety on Friday sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now time for final traffick Chuck from the UCLT Tramphics Center.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
The University of Cincinnati Cancer Center is open, the most
comprehensive blood cancer center in the nation. The future of
cancer care is here called five one, three, five to
eighty five UCCC new wreck on two seventy five, this
time to northbound. It is at twenty eight and they're
over on the right side. Traffic slow from before the
Milford Parkway. Part of that from an earlier wreck out
Love one inbound seventy four backs above Montana northbound seventy
(00:39):
five is running over a twenty five minute delay between
Turfway and Town. Chuck ingramon fifty five KRC the talk station.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hey forty seven Here fift five KRC Talk Station.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Happy Wednesday, com Please to welcome back to the fift
five CARC Morning Show. Formerly did the Politics Extra Common
column in the Cincinni Inquiry. He then shifted over to
sports his pasth Today we were talking about the intersection
of Politics and Sports. Welcome back to the fifty five
KRCY Morning Show. Jason Williams. Good to have you on today.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
What is up? Brian? Great to be back with you.
Always always enjoyed being on Todd KRC.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
And you know what.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I saw the subject matter and that you were on
my rundown, and I thought I hadn't read the article
yet and immediately said I knew exactly where Jason's going
to land on this, and I was right, Rise up,
Hamilton County taxpayers, Wise up, Wake up, begins your column.
The Bengals want to want to unveil this this stadium
remodeling project for pay Corpse Stadium.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Am I reading this? Is this figure accurate?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
One point two five billion with a B in upgrades?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
That would be accurate in terms of what the proposal
the commissioners rolled out yesterday. And I'll tell you, Brian,
I can you know, I'm no public finance expert or
development expert or anything like that, but I can get
you an easy, easy, two hundred and fifty million dollars
out of that by spending about a minute looking at
(02:07):
this proposal. And I immediately went to this because I've
been harping on this in my columns on the radio,
that it's time for the Bengals to build their own
practice facility somewhere else, just like every other team in
the NFL. Almost every other team. I believe there's only
three NFL teams that only that practice right next to
(02:30):
their stadium. Everyone else practices out in a suburb or
rural area out away from the home stadium. And so
that that's one thing like as part of this, now
that this is this is the state. We thought this
was the stadium upgrade, right, Brian, Why is then? Why
is in there then a two hundred and forty nine
(02:51):
dollar practice facility plus a new team headquarters that's outside
of the stadium. They see where the current practice fields are,
they would be building them a whole new, palatial, state
of the art practice and team team complex where all
the team corporate offices are. That to me is that's
(03:13):
that's excess right there. That is something the county should
absolutely not The county shouldn't be planning that. The county
let let alone spend any money planning it, let alone
pay any money for it. That's something the Bengals can
now you know that that would be on them. They
can go find their own spot. They can go to
the suburbs. There's plenty of green space or you know,
(03:34):
developable land in Warren County and Butler County, even in
Hamilton County somewhere else. But you would then have to
work with that local jurisdiction, whether it's the county and
Warren or Butler or Claremont, or even a Northern Kentucky
county or specific city of the jurisdiction, for example Blue Ash.
(03:55):
You would work with those places on a tax incentive,
and it would be like for them, you know, it
would be like, you know, the economic development thing where
you're bringing hey whatever. I don't know how many employees
the Bengals have, but whatever, seventy five employees. Hey, we're
bringing seventy five new jobs to the area. You know,
we always hear about those announcements. So that's how they
(04:15):
That's how it probably should be a pro I don't know.
I'm not advocating for another tax subsidy necessarily, but I
am advocating for this getting off the books of Hamilton
County tax stayers.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well agreed, and I guess if they if they negotiated
a deal with some other county negotiator to deal with
the Bengals on this practice field. They could also negotiate
terms of condition to allow them to use that facility
for their own local purposes, like you know, maybe have
a high school football game there, or a soccer game
or whatever, or a concert.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So and that's what the.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Dallas Cowboys do with their practice facility out Maya, several
miles away from where their stadium is.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Well, and that makes sense, I guess.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Could it not be that the Bengals could just build
the damn thing next to pay Course stadium and pay
for it themselves. Going back to your argument, this is
not the stadium upgrade, I would think, and I have
not read the multi page original contract we entered into
with the Bengals here in Hamilton County, but I would think.
I mean, I'm as a lawyer, the wheels are spinning
(05:16):
in my head based upon that. It's like, well, wait
a minute, no, that is not the stadium. That is
not a stadium upgrade. It's like the railroad money can't
go for anything except existing infrastructure. This is something completely
separate from the stadium.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
That's exactly right. And I mean, that's the kind of
stuff right there that's like if I were, which I
actually am. I live in Hamilton County and the Hamilton
County voter and talkspayer like, I'm pretty kicked off about
that because it's like, all right, the stadium is one thing,
but then you're going to start getting all this stuff
outside the stadium and develop mobile, you know, projects around
(05:52):
the state. No, no, no, no, Like to me, that's
where you draw the line. I get it. You know,
there's a premium that you have to pay to be
an NFL city, and certainly we've paid a very very
high premium here, higher than most places over the last
twenty four years of the life of the stadium. And
for for I don't know, I feel a little bit
(06:13):
slapped in the face against speaking as a taxpayer. And
you know, I'm blessed fortunate to have a column as well,
and it's a great responsibility with that, and I take,
you know, great pride in doing that column. But I
just I looked at that and I'm just that was
the first thing I went to Brian was like, no,
here's here's the pork. Here's the pork. The pork in
(06:35):
this project that can be splashed right out of it.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Well, that still leaves one billion. Assuming that argument holds water,
and he's like, no, we're cutting out two hundred fifty
million dollars from the project, it's still a billion dollars.
And the Hamilton County taxpayers are largely the ones that's
going to be a responsibility for this. But pivoting over,
as you point out in your column, the state will
also help put part of a foot the bill for
(06:58):
part of this subsidy. That means blots out of Hamilton
County and Ohio, Warren County, Butler County folks out there,
they're going to be responsible for a chunk too.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah, I mean, if you can, if you can look
at it like and this is generally what's happening in
Buffalo and Tennessee and the general it's you know, it's
around that forty range as to what the the private side,
which you know people want to they want to they
want to separate out. Well, the NFL is going to
put this in and the Bengals are going to put
(07:27):
this in. And look at it more like that's the
private side, that's the Bengals side of things. The NFL
and the Bengals are one and the same in this way,
whatever whatever the non public money is, so you know,
that can be around forty percent. Then you divvy up
the other sixty between state and local. You know, I
(07:48):
it's generally probably would be feasible over a long period
of time, but uh, it certainly. It's just kind of
it's just kind of crazy to think that this stadium
cost what four hundred and fifty five million I think
to build, and now we're gonna pump again pump a
billion dollars into it. And again I know that not
(08:10):
all that is the stadium specific. Of course, they had
to put all those bells and whistles of the development
around there, and I just I don't know, I think
that was pretty ridiculous and access by the county to
do that, and I'm sure it was their way of
trying to, you know, appease the Bengals and like, hey,
you know, because the Bengals for years have wanted all
(08:30):
that stuff around the stadium. It's like, nah, like you're
gonna get You're gonna get a hold basically a whole
new stadium, and then you you let you let the
private sector or the county worry about how things go
outside the stadium.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Well, it's important elections have consequence at Lisha East and
East Street House. Stephanie Dumas currently responsible for negotiating the
new lease agreement. And of course you would think going
forward it would specify any upgrades relate solely to a stadium. Anyhow,
Jason Williams, thanks for standing on top of this and
bring them our attention. Get in touch with your commissioners,
telling them to protect your best interest. And you know, interestingly, Jason,
(09:05):
you and I didn't even get to the point where
we discussed are these upgrades to the actual stadium even
really necessary? I leave that. I leave you with that point, Jason.
I'll be reading what you write. Keep up the great work,
my friend, and thank you for the teacher. We'll talk soon.
Fifty six Orlando signs on the program. Earlier Frank LeRose
on voting. We heard from the author of the new
(09:28):
of his new book, Tiny Blunder's Big Disasters Book two.
That was Jared not He's an interesting and funny guy.
Judgment Politano and Jason Williams podcast at you have kcy
dot com. Tune tomorrow the latest from the on the
Brown Moreno Race in Ohio for Americans for prosperity, have
a great day, folks, don't go way. Glenn Beck's coming up.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Donald Trump, It's what motivates your vote, the biggest unifier
for the Democrats. Fifty five KRC talkstation. This report is
sponsored by Behavior
Uh Claudi and eighty five for the highday over night
low sixty two. Eighty seven was Sun Tomorrow, over night
low sixty three Sunday and ninety on Friday sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now time for final traffick Chuck from the UCLT Tramphics Center.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
The University of Cincinnati Cancer Center is open, the most
comprehensive blood cancer center in the nation. The future of
cancer care is here called five one, three, five to
eighty five UCCC new wreck on two seventy five, this
time to northbound. It is at twenty eight and they're
over on the right side. Traffic slow from before the
Milford Parkway. Part of that from an earlier wreck out
Love one inbound seventy four backs above Montana northbound seventy
(00:39):
five is running over a twenty five minute delay between
Turfway and Town. Chuck ingramon fifty five KRC the talk station.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hey forty seven Here fift five KRC Talk Station.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Happy Wednesday, com Please to welcome back to the fift
five CARC Morning Show. Formerly did the Politics Extra Common
column in the Cincinni Inquiry. He then shifted over to
sports his pasth Today we were talking about the intersection
of Politics and Sports. Welcome back to the fifty five
KRCY Morning Show. Jason Williams. Good to have you on today.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
What is up? Brian? Great to be back with you.
Always always enjoyed being on Todd KRC.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
And you know what.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I saw the subject matter and that you were on
my rundown, and I thought I hadn't read the article
yet and immediately said I knew exactly where Jason's going
to land on this, and I was right, Rise up,
Hamilton County taxpayers, Wise up, Wake up, begins your column.
The Bengals want to want to unveil this this stadium
remodeling project for pay Corpse Stadium.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Am I reading this? Is this figure accurate?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
One point two five billion with a B in upgrades?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
That would be accurate in terms of what the proposal
the commissioners rolled out yesterday. And I'll tell you, Brian,
I can you know, I'm no public finance expert or
development expert or anything like that, but I can get
you an easy, easy, two hundred and fifty million dollars
out of that by spending about a minute looking at
(02:07):
this proposal. And I immediately went to this because I've
been harping on this in my columns on the radio,
that it's time for the Bengals to build their own
practice facility somewhere else, just like every other team in
the NFL. Almost every other team. I believe there's only
three NFL teams that only that practice right next to
(02:30):
their stadium. Everyone else practices out in a suburb or
rural area out away from the home stadium. And so
that that's one thing like as part of this, now
that this is this is the state. We thought this
was the stadium upgrade, right, Brian, Why is then? Why
is in there then a two hundred and forty nine
(02:51):
dollar practice facility plus a new team headquarters that's outside
of the stadium. They see where the current practice fields are,
they would be building them a whole new, palatial, state
of the art practice and team team complex where all
the team corporate offices are. That to me is that's
(03:13):
that's excess right there. That is something the county should
absolutely not The county shouldn't be planning that. The county
let let alone spend any money planning it, let alone
pay any money for it. That's something the Bengals can
now you know that that would be on them. They
can go find their own spot. They can go to
the suburbs. There's plenty of green space or you know,
(03:34):
developable land in Warren County and Butler County, even in
Hamilton County somewhere else. But you would then have to
work with that local jurisdiction, whether it's the county and
Warren or Butler or Claremont, or even a Northern Kentucky
county or specific city of the jurisdiction, for example Blue Ash.
(03:55):
You would work with those places on a tax incentive,
and it would be like for them, you know, it
would be like, you know, the economic development thing where
you're bringing hey whatever. I don't know how many employees
the Bengals have, but whatever, seventy five employees. Hey, we're
bringing seventy five new jobs to the area. You know,
we always hear about those announcements. So that's how they
(04:15):
That's how it probably should be a pro I don't know.
I'm not advocating for another tax subsidy necessarily, but I
am advocating for this getting off the books of Hamilton
County tax stayers.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well agreed, and I guess if they if they negotiated
a deal with some other county negotiator to deal with
the Bengals on this practice field. They could also negotiate
terms of condition to allow them to use that facility
for their own local purposes, like you know, maybe have
a high school football game there, or a soccer game
or whatever, or a concert.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So and that's what the.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Dallas Cowboys do with their practice facility out Maya, several
miles away from where their stadium is.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Well, and that makes sense, I guess.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Could it not be that the Bengals could just build
the damn thing next to pay Course stadium and pay
for it themselves. Going back to your argument, this is
not the stadium upgrade, I would think, and I have
not read the multi page original contract we entered into
with the Bengals here in Hamilton County, but I would think.
I mean, I'm as a lawyer, the wheels are spinning
(05:16):
in my head based upon that. It's like, well, wait
a minute, no, that is not the stadium. That is
not a stadium upgrade. It's like the railroad money can't
go for anything except existing infrastructure. This is something completely
separate from the stadium.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
That's exactly right. And I mean, that's the kind of
stuff right there that's like if I were, which I
actually am. I live in Hamilton County and the Hamilton
County voter and talkspayer like, I'm pretty kicked off about
that because it's like, all right, the stadium is one thing,
but then you're going to start getting all this stuff
outside the stadium and develop mobile, you know, projects around
(05:52):
the state. No, no, no, no, Like to me, that's
where you draw the line. I get it. You know,
there's a premium that you have to pay to be
an NFL city, and certainly we've paid a very very
high premium here, higher than most places over the last
twenty four years of the life of the stadium. And
for for I don't know, I feel a little bit
(06:13):
slapped in the face against speaking as a taxpayer. And
you know, I'm blessed fortunate to have a column as well,
and it's a great responsibility with that, and I take,
you know, great pride in doing that column. But I
just I looked at that and I'm just that was
the first thing I went to Brian was like, no,
here's here's the pork. Here's the pork. The pork in
(06:35):
this project that can be splashed right out of it.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Well, that still leaves one billion. Assuming that argument holds water,
and he's like, no, we're cutting out two hundred fifty
million dollars from the project, it's still a billion dollars.
And the Hamilton County taxpayers are largely the ones that's
going to be a responsibility for this. But pivoting over,
as you point out in your column, the state will
also help put part of a foot the bill for
(06:58):
part of this subsidy. That means blots out of Hamilton
County and Ohio, Warren County, Butler County folks out there,
they're going to be responsible for a chunk too.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah, I mean, if you can, if you can look
at it like and this is generally what's happening in
Buffalo and Tennessee and the general it's you know, it's
around that forty range as to what the the private side,
which you know people want to they want to they
want to separate out. Well, the NFL is going to
put this in and the Bengals are going to put
(07:27):
this in. And look at it more like that's the
private side, that's the Bengals side of things. The NFL
and the Bengals are one and the same in this way,
whatever whatever the non public money is, so you know,
that can be around forty percent. Then you divvy up
the other sixty between state and local. You know, I
(07:48):
it's generally probably would be feasible over a long period
of time, but uh, it certainly. It's just kind of
it's just kind of crazy to think that this stadium
cost what four hundred and fifty five million I think
to build, and now we're gonna pump again pump a
billion dollars into it. And again I know that not
(08:10):
all that is the stadium specific. Of course, they had
to put all those bells and whistles of the development
around there, and I just I don't know, I think
that was pretty ridiculous and access by the county to
do that, and I'm sure it was their way of
trying to, you know, appease the Bengals and like, hey,
you know, because the Bengals for years have wanted all
(08:30):
that stuff around the stadium. It's like, nah, like you're
gonna get You're gonna get a hold basically a whole
new stadium, and then you you let you let the
private sector or the county worry about how things go
outside the stadium.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Well, it's important elections have consequence at Lisha East and
East Street House. Stephanie Dumas currently responsible for negotiating the
new lease agreement. And of course you would think going
forward it would specify any upgrades relate solely to a stadium. Anyhow,
Jason Williams, thanks for standing on top of this and
bring them our attention. Get in touch with your commissioners,
telling them to protect your best interest. And you know, interestingly, Jason,
(09:05):
you and I didn't even get to the point where
we discussed are these upgrades to the actual stadium even
really necessary? I leave that. I leave you with that point, Jason.
I'll be reading what you write. Keep up the great work,
my friend, and thank you for the teacher. We'll talk soon.
Fifty six Orlando signs on the program. Earlier Frank LeRose
on voting. We heard from the author of the new
(09:28):
of his new book, Tiny Blunder's Big Disasters Book two.
That was Jared not He's an interesting and funny guy.
Judgment Politano and Jason Williams podcast at you have kcy
dot com. Tune tomorrow the latest from the on the
Brown Moreno Race in Ohio for Americans for prosperity, have
a great day, folks, don't go way. Glenn Beck's coming up.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Donald Trump, It's what motivates your vote, the biggest unifier
for the Democrats. Fifty five KRC talkstation. This report is
sponsored by Behavior
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