Jay Ratliff discusses Aviation Issues

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Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's a thirty on a Thursday, which means it's time
for iHeart MEATI Aviation expert Jay Ratliffe always enjoyed this
segment talking with Jay, just like I enjoyed talking with
him and his beautiful bride yesterday Listener to Lunch, Jay Ratliffe,
So great, senior at Listener to Lunch yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
It was a nice relaxed environment. And rarely, as you know,
given my schedule with my training in the stock market,
can I take some time off.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
But I told you that it was it was needed.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
And yeah, that way you can meet Cherry, and when
I brag on her, you'll know exactly what I'm talking. Oh,
I knew you got to meet your beautiful your beautiful wife.
So yeah, we're we're in the same same boat there, pal.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah we both outkicked our coverage and yeah we both
offered each other proof of that. Although I always took
you at your word, there's no man out there who's
not happily married, who regularly goes online and talks and
praises his wife all the time. And uh so wedded
bliss you got, and that's a great thing.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Jay Ratt still trying to figure out the out kicked
the coverage comment, but.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Like what does that mean? Explained later.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
That's great, eddiehow turning over to something that's been rumbling
around has been rumbling around out there for I don't
know more than like it seems like twenty years real
id it's now a thing, although apparently you don't necessarily
need a real idea to fly. Where are we on this,
Jay Ratliffe, Well, the.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
TSA told us early on, even though we've known about
this for twenty years and we've talked about it constantly,
where you had to have the TSA approved driver's license
to fly get into federal courthouses, et cetera, et cetera.
They said, there's going to be twenty to twenty five
percent of the people still that are going to show
up this week after the deadline is here and not

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have what they need. Now, the TSA is not going
to turn us away, but what they are going to
do is they have a kind of an enhanced.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Security protocol they're going to follow.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
It's going to take a lot more time and you
are going to be subjected to some indepth screening and
it's a hassle. But if you don't have what you need.
It's the best way to get you on the plane. Well,
if you're not sure what the Ohio Real ID driver's
license new and improved looks like, just a quick Google
image search will give you what you need. But if

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you don't have it, get to the airport extra early
and I mean like three hours before departure, and then
work your way through. Now, eventually the TSA will reach
that point of no return where okay, the great period
is over.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Now you have to have what you need to fly.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
And I certainly wouldn't push that too far because I
don't know how long it's going to be. Because it's
a lot like if you lose your bill fold in
the West Coast and you got to fly back Holm.
You're thinking, oh, I don't have my ID. Well, the
TSA is going to work with you. They're going to
get you on board the flight. They do have protocol
for that, and they're doing everything they can here. And
as I've said so many times before, hats off to

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the US government. I rarely say that for rolling this
out in the slowest travel month of the year in May.
They did it at a time when they knew things
were going to be slow there's going to be an
implementation period, and it's going to take passengers and the
TSA agents, you know, a little extra time to get
through things. And so far, so good. No, you know,
screaming long lines at the security checkpoint or a lot

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of stories that have gone viral as a result of this,
which tells me that everybody's handling it pretty well well.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
I would imagine. Does it take really that long to
do a body cavity search?

Speaker 4 (04:18):
There?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Jay, I have this vision rubber gloves?

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, right this way, sir. Yeah, we'll teach you not
to have the right right. I'll have it next time,
I promise.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
I swear to God, I'll go to the d m V.
I'm not even gonna fly now, I'm gonna go get
it exactly.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Oh my, So, and you be fun.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
It would be fun to do that, just just the
just the premise of seeing people's reaction, having a little
a little fun at the airport. Not planning to do it,
of course, right, you know, you having fun at work?

Speaker 4 (04:51):
You know, you and I get to do it, but
so many other people can't.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Isn't that the truth? I don't measure. There's a whole
lot of levity among the TSA folks. Yeah, we have
one of the guys to stand there and when when
the new people come up, put a pair of rubber
gloves on, say follow me. I think that would be hilarious.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
I saw as for other things.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
But yes, real quick here, well we'll part company for
a brief commercial break. But just a quick topic. I
saw a couple of United Airlines planes clipped wings, trying
to depart in San Francisco. The one was backing, being
pushed back from its journey and ran into a Hong
Kong bound United Airlines flight on the ground there. And
I know air traffic controllers don't control the ground space

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least that's what I read, But I mean, you think
that they'd be looking around their environment before they start
pushing back. And because you know, you clip a wing,
that means the plane's not gonna be able to fly.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Well, neither one of them. More than five hundred people
were on both flights. So when you have that, we
call it swapping paint. And the pilots, of course, are
not in control. It's being pushed back by the ground
crew and you have teams that surround the airplane, so
it's a very slow process. Yeah, everybody's looking, everybody's communicating.
So from airline management, when this happened, it would drive

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us absolutely out of our mind because now you have
two airplanes with five hundred people. You have to take
both those planes out of commission. You have to now
bring resources from other parts of the airport that we're
supposed to be doing other jobs to get the bags
off both planes so that we can try to reaccommodate
the passengers. And it creates a lot of last minute

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chaos that you have to deal with simply because people
weren't doing their job. And you know they're taught. If
there's a problem, a question, you stop, you make sure
everything's okay. But when people get in a hurry you
have this happen. It's not dangerous, but when it happens
and you feel that thud, you're thinking, well, you know,
this plane's not going anywhere because the maintenance crew has

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to come out, and it is a huge inconvenience.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
For those people.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
But look, people were waiting on that plane at the
destination and they don't have a lot of extra planes
sitting around where they'll go, well, we'll just substitute this
one for that one.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Sometimes that's not the case. Sometimes we can. Most of
the time we can.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, this is such an obvious I mean, planes are big.
You've got two hundred and fifty people out of a
giant object. How you could even have this happen? Recognizing
exactly what you're.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Brian, you've seen at the airport. We all those great,
big windows and you look out and a lot of
times these aircraft are stacked, you know. Yeah, Premium. Premium
is the real estate word at the airports because there's
just not a whole lot of room on that ground.
And when you throw in a lot of ground equipment
that's also out there kind of in the way, and
different types of things that we use for auxiliary power

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and other things. Even though it's kind of building the
Jetwi bridge, it can be it can be tight. And
that's why every other week there's a story out there
somewhere in the in the country where airplanes have clipped
wings normally as they're pushing out or coming into the gate.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
We'll bring it back Newark is a mess understatement of
the week. We'll talk about that and more with I
Heard Media via stings for Jay Rattle. If it's a
thirty seven be right back fifty five KRC dot com.
Hey forty if you've out AKRC detalk station in j
Roydler certainly has I heard media aviation expert. We are
plussed to have him with us every Thursday beginning at
a thirty talking some aviation news. And man, a Newark

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airport is a mess. They got what one runway's shut
down because it's being what refinished or rebuilt and it's
already crowded.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
It's crowded right oh, big time.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
And you know, you're talking about a situation where we
have an airport that is technology challenged because I'm just
trying to find that the right wording to use, because
you and I've talked about before how just the entire
industry is really suspect when it comes to the technology.

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And they had a situation where last this week where
we had aircraft that were flying around and air traffic
controllers lost the radar.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, they were able to talk, but they couldn't see.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
And for men and women that are you know, responsible
for keeping everybody safe, you talk about some stress.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
That was it.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
And then you have a situation where you have a
shortage of air traffic controllers. It's just a mess on
top of a mess, on top of a mess. Now
we're being told that the United Airlines is looking at
canceling or about ten percent of their schedule because they're saying,
we simply can't be operating where we have flights that
are going to be routinely late, two, three, four hours

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a day, So they're cutting the flights back, and they're
saying that to fix all of this is not a
situation that's going to be a matter of days, weeks,
it's going to be years. So what are you going
to do? And of course, with us having a shortage
of air traffic controllers back, four or five of them
went on a medical leave because they were so emotionally

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distraught over losing control of the airspace type of thing
where they couldn't see what was going on. It scared
him to death. Remember a lot of these individuals, these
men and women, are working overtime because we've got the
shortage of three thousand air traffic control across the country.
So there's no easy fix to any of this. It's
going to take time. And unfortunately we got here because

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of decades of non decisions that could have been made
to address.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
This, and now we're all paying for it.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
And the beauty is the idiots in DC on both
sides that could have addressed this and fixed it, are
too busy pointing at each other, as they always tend
to do, versus saying, you know, yeah, okay, we dropped
the ball. Let's get it fixed. No, we can't ever
take responsibility. But worre you're going to blame it, I
think President Trump. Yeah, let's blame it on him.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Yeah, even though it's been in the making for forty years.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Well, and that's the point I was going to emphasize,
you obviously made it. No, it's not Trump's fault. This
is a problem that's been in the making for decades
because they're still using basically, you know, two eighty six
process or five and a quarter floppy drive kind of computers.
I mean, boiled down. I mean it's kind of the
way it is, isn't it. It's old, old, legacy technology.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Do you hear people in the background typing in Google search,
what's a floppy disc? Yeah, there's people have no clue
about that. But when you're dealing with technology that this
out of date. When airline CEOs were asked about President
Trump's pledge to upgrade the air traffic control system.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
I mean, it's music to their ears. They're thinking thank you.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Because for decades we've heard politicians talk about the need
to do so, but when it came time to deliver
the money, crickets never seemed to happen, or they might
get a trickle of what they needed. It was never, ever, ever,
ever a priority. And I've said so many times with
you when we talked that the economy of the nation,

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an integral part of that is the aviation network that
has the distribution of passengers, luggage, cargo, all that kind
of stuff and bags and freight and all the mail
and everything else. And when that is hampered, it impacts
adversely our economy. And why it's never been a priority
is maddening to me. And because I recognize it's a

(11:55):
very thin thread. Now some people are using the term
jay it's unsafe to fly. Now, It's not as safe
as we would like. But I will not cross that threshold.
I'm saying it's not safe to fly because if I
did think that, I would make it very clear to
you and everybody else how I felt. I'm not at
that point yet, ye, But it is because we're making
the adjustments because the FAA, if there's too much traffic

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going into the Northeast, they do this every day. If
it's needed, they do a ground stop. If for a
flight from Atlanta or from cincinnati's about to head to
New York uh uh, a ground stop, time out until
we get the airspace thinned, and then we will let
you take off and then you can enter the network.
As far as heading in that direction, they control it.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Now.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
It's aggravating, and it's certainly something that the technology would
allow us to be more efficient at what we do.
So there's just a lot of things there that need
to happen, but they all take considerable time. And some
of the stuff President Trump is beginning now, to me,
is a lot like his Supreme Court appointments that he
gave us first time around, when he gave us three
Supreme Court justices. It's something that for the next twenty

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years is going to impact this country.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
So as long as he's.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Allowed to finish what he's doing on the getting this
stuff implemented for aviation, it's gonna change things for us
for the next fifteen twenty years, and it's going to
be great.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Not that he'll ever get any credit for it.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, it's needed, and I'm just glad we've got a
president who's saying, Hey, this has got to get fixed,
and I'm gonna make sure it gets gets done Well.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Army helicopter is causing problems again. We'll hear one more
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into forty five a sunny Friday with the pleasant sixty
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Saturday partly Friday skies. A dry weekend. Saturday's high seventy
one closing out at sixty two. Time for final traffic
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Speaker 1 (14:33):
Hey forty nine if you about KRC Detalks station One
more segment with Jay Ratliff.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
I heart me the aviation expert.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Kay, what is with the Army helicopters feeling the need
to fly close to the DCA airport?

Speaker 4 (14:48):
It should be happening. I know, It's just so simple.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
After me, That's why I'm so frustrated a BYuT this
I read about the first time, Like, wait a second,
they're flying into planes that are either landing or taking off.
Why do they need to be anywhere near that obviously
dangerous situation area?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, And Sean Duffy echoes your sentiment completely because he's
furious because it's been clear stated where these helicopters are
to be, and apparently, from what we're being told, someone
headed to the Pentagon wanted the scenic tour.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
The scenic route. So some of the.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Previous you know, guidelines mandates were totally disregarded by somebody.
As it happened, not once or twice we had a
Delta Airlines and Republic Airlines flight both had to go
around when again, we had an army helicopter that was
in the proximity of their approach. And when you lose
sixty seven lives and you say we're going to learn

(15:48):
from that by making things better, this is what we're
going to do, it makes no sense to me why
that would be totally disregarded, because then my question is,
if sixty seven lives isn't enough, what on God's green
Earth does it cake for us to make those necessary changes,
because please, it just it's maddening, but it continues to happen.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
So I don't know, we know who the commander in
chief is.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Somebody's gonna answer for it because you just cannot allow
that kind of stuff to happen, and we'll see where.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
It goes, yeah, I guess.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
But you know, sort of bizarre in all of this
is the idea that you know damn well that the
pilot of that helicopter had heard about the collision with
the airplane and the prior helicopter knew about it, and
yet nonetheless took basically the same.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Path that if he's ordered to if he's ordered to.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Do so, well, someone's head needs to roll right there.
I mean, you talk about the commander in.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Chief because you're you're placing lives at risks. I'm in
total agreement. I think a firing squad's a little extreme,
but I think something's got to be done because it
just how you've got to honor the lives of those
that were lost, but making changes and adhering to those
change and Brian when they don't, it's beyond idiotic and aconite. Yes,

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it's irresponsible, and you're placing lives at risk willingly, and
that's why something's got to be done. And I suspect
something will be done, and I suspect we will know
when something's been done.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
I'd like to think we will.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
And the other component of this, it's not like you're
high you can sneak by and get away with it.
You're on your I mean, it's well documented where you are.
It's on radar. They can see you. So look, what
the hell's the helicopter doing there anyway.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
This silists are ticked and they're going to make sure somebody.
They may not, but it's going to hit social media somewhere.
I can promise you.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
That, yes, it will. All right.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
We always part with hub delays, Jay Ratliff, what's going
on out there in the world of air travel other
than the fact that we want to stay the hell
away to Newarks when Newark?

Speaker 4 (17:44):
Yeah, yeah, that one for a while.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
We've got a lot of rain that's in the area
across the country. It's yet to impact any major hubs.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Now.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Obviously, as the day progresses, the afternoon storms that we've
been talking about might start to impact some flight activity
to GDS Atlanta and Charlotte. But other than that, I
think that it's going to be probably the best day of.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
The week weatherwise we've had to fly. And that's saying
something because it's been a it's been a rough week.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
It sure has. Jay again, great scene yesterday, better seeing
your better half. It's always great to have you on
the fifty five. Care that's all right? Please do When
she wakes up, you can tell her and I'll look
forward to another great segment with you next Thursday. Have
a wonderful week on My Friend You Too, Thank You
Day fifty three to fifty five car Se detalk station.

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John Zinzer joined the program earlier. He's with Save Hyde
Park Square, which is Savehyde Parksquare dot org. If you're
upset about what happened to Hyde Park and you want
to have some control over your zoning and you don't
like the monstrosity that they are going to put there,
and if you haven't seen what it looks like, go
to Save Hyde Park Square dot org and look at
the illustration of it.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
It's insane.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
If you're upset about the fact that Cincinna City Council
didn't listen to you, ignored you and the rest of
theighborhoods too. I can throw in connected communities on that
they need fifteen thousand signatures by May twenty third. Get
a petition. If you're a resident of the City of Cincinnati,
Save Hyde Park Square dot org.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
You can even be.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
A circulator, a signature collector. You can coordinate collecting events,
maybe like show up at farmers' markets. There's all kinds
of ways to help out, but at minimum, if you're
a resident of the City of Cincinnati, I think you
owe it to your own community, and you ought to
help out Hyde Park and what the city council did
to them ignoring their will. I mean, our elected officials

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are supposed to serve the will the people. And you
talk about bond Hill, the same thing happened to them.
But basically I would argue every neighborhood in Cincinnati had
connected communities thrown down upon them and they had no
say in it. So everyone's had this done to them
in the city. So sign the petition.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
It's easy to do.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
What was the website again, Save Hyde Park Square dot org.
So John and you can listen to the podcast my
Stations with John. He's a really intelligent guy. I enjoyed
talking and the doctor James Thorpe, his book Sacrificed, How
the deadliest vaccine and history target are the most vulnerable,
went off on a tangent. I don't know that we
need to blame Satan for the activities of these crazy
people with money trying to tell us what to do

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and foisting an extraordinarily dangerous vaccine upon us. Perhaps with
and he's convinced nefarious purposes. I think people can act
nefariously and with evil intent. Without Satan standing there whispering
in their ear. But you believe what you want to believe,
all right. Doctor Thorpe thinks that Satan was involved. However,
he's still a brilliant doctor. He's well documented as being

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a brilliant doctor, and he definitely saw firsthand what COVID nineteen,
the consequence of COVID nineteen, and apparently it's very well
documented out there, multiple books on the subject matter. They
hid all of that from us. Jay Ratliff, of course
podcast fifty five KRC dot com. I hope you can
tune in tomorrow. Tech Friday with Dave had an important

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th day. There'll be more going on the program tomorrow.
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