Judge Napolitano - Congressman Massie and Government Attacks on Private Property

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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That's kind of what channel I'm saying.

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Anyway, Clouds in the highest sixty eight today overnight, a
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Sixty degrees for the high.

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Partly cloudy overnight forty five, but a beautiful day on
Friday with sunny sky's at a highest sixty nine.

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Sixty four degrees.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Right now, let's hear from here about traffic from Chuck Ingram.
Well maybe not a system misfire, which means we're not
gonna hear from Chuck Ingram for traffic, and not hear
his comments about Judge Enna Polton, who joins a program

(00:45):
every Wednesday at.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
This time to talk constitution. Usually talk constitution.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
But we'll talk about Congressman Thomas Massi today as well,
congress A Judge Eddena Polton, and welcome back my friend.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Sorry about whether or not or traffick or now.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm gonna have a bad day because I didn't jose
of him this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
I know every once and wrole we do have a
system glitch. So we'll blame me our employer, right, Joe Strecker? Anyhow,
judge in and of Paul Tano, Lenny.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Wait, good morning, and how are you, Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I'm doing well, you know, in my own personal life,
and my heart is broken with this big, beautiful bill.
As everybody who's bothered to look at the numbers can
point out, including Today's Wall Street Journal, we're on a
downward spile in terms of digging ourselves into a deficit
hole that we can never get out of Gross domestic
product A debt ratio is north of is heading north

(01:35):
of one hundred percent, and it could be under the
current trajectory with this bill that GDP debt to GDP
ratio would rise from one hundred and eighteen to one
hundred and twenty five percent. This is unsustainable. And one
guy you can always count on to point this out
and draw a line in the sands saying hell no,
is Congressman Thomas Massy.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
And what does that get.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
That gets the ire of Donald Trump, who said he
should be voted out office.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Because he's a grand stander. I guess it takes one
to know when Thomas Massy is the I'm sorry, I
couldn't resist. I know Thomas Massey is the opposite of
a grand stander. He with charm and humor, articulates a
brilliantly articulates the defense of first principles. You don't spend
more money than you take in, otherwise your debts are

(02:23):
going to crush you. You don't fight a war unless
national security is threatened. The president doesn't seize power from
the Congress. You follow the constitution. These are pretty basic
things that rub Washington the wrong way. They rub nearly
all Republicans the wrong way. The Democrats just want to

(02:45):
oppose anything Trump wants, and they rub the big government
Republican presidents, of which Donald Trump is a paradigmatic example,
the wrong way. I was very, very hurt to hear
him attack Congressman Massey on a personal level. Knowing Congressman
Massey the way you and I do. He slept like

(03:05):
a baby last night. It didn't bother him at all.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
That is right, And in so far as you know
him being primaried out. They've tried that before in the
Commonwealth of Kentucky. Judgent of Politano. It didn't work. He's
got a solid base of supporters. I think probably folks
in the Commonwealth like you and me who really truly
believe in our founding documents and really truly believe in his,

(03:30):
well his it's almost like a religious faith, you know,
I know, and people who know talkersmask you know exactly
where he's gonna come down on any issue ahead of time,
before he utters a syllable, because he's solid at like
a rocket Gibraltar with his foundational principles.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Right right, I mean, the Republicans are just going to
drive themselves into the minority status which they loathe when
these chickens come home to roost. Budget the Trump proposes
and that nearly all Republicans are in favor of it.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Might not pass this.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
You know. There's some that to say you got to
change the salt cap, and there are others will say
if or will vote against it, and the others will say,
if you do change the salt cap, will vote against it.
Thomas Massey of course, will vote against that. They can
only afford two more votes against it. But if it
passes in anything near its current form, it adds a

(04:28):
trillion dollars to the debt of the federal government. Right now,
the federal government is spending a trillion a year in
interest payments. How much longer is that sustainable? Not much longer.
The federal government's debt has been downgraded. What does that
mean to the average listener. It means that government has

(04:50):
to pay more interest in order to borrow money, Meaning
it's got to shell out more cash every quarter, cash
that doesn't have. It's borrowing money to pay interest on
borrowed money. Nobody and nothing can exist much longer doing that.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well, I'm thoroughly convinced, and I mentioned it earlier on
the show, and I've mentioned it before. You know, call
me conspiracy theorists. Honestly, you run. I think that's exactly
what a lot of people on the left wan. They
want a collapse, They want our country to fail. It's
an evil capitalist well quasi capitalists. You can't really call
it capitalists anymore, or more socialists, but it's just an
evil empire. It's born of original sin. It doesn't it

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isn't worthy of going. And you got a lot of
Marxists on the left hand side of the Ledger that
want to get their revolution in any way shape or
for man. Crashing the fiat currency's a way to get there.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Well, what will happen if people stop buying the government's bonds,
stated differently, lending money to the federal government?

Speaker 2 (05:48):
What will happen?

Speaker 3 (05:49):
The government will collapse of own of its own weight. Yeah,
there are thirty seven trillion dollars in debt. A chunk
of it is owned by Japan, a chunk of it
is owned by China, most of it is owned by
American investors. What happened if that dead is just canceled

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because the Feds can't pay it back?

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Ye, calamity, global calamity. Right.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Thomas Massey warns about this. He not only understands the Constitution,
he understands economics one oh one. I'm sure there are
many Republicans who do understand economics one oh one, but
they don't manifest that understanding when they support legislation like this.
And Mike Johnson, what is he? Just a clerk? Whatever

(06:38):
Donald Trump wants, he does. The guy is number three
in line for the presidency. He's just a good little
goody two shoes that does whatever the big guy in
the White House tells him to do.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Well.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
I think he called in Trump because he was not
successful in hurting the cats that are the Republican Party
in DC right now and get him to come up
to some agreement on this. And I had Congressman Warren
Davidson on the program in the last hour, your honor,
and he said he's not going to vote for it
for all the reasons that you and I are talking
about right now. If it exists in its current form
and it comes up for a vote.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Wow, well they need one more opposition and then a collapses.
By the way, the Senate has already said you send
this over here. We're not sending it back. It's going
to be changed radically by the time we get finished
with it. So Trump boasts that his tax cuts will

(07:31):
remain permanent, but he refuses to examine the other side
of the ledger, which is the money the government has
to pay for an interest for all the borrowing. Yeah,
does the government ever retire debt. No, it just rolls
it over. We are still paying debts incurred by Woodrow
Wilson to fund.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
World War One? Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Not a hundred years ago?

Speaker 1 (07:55):
And I remember Ronald Reagan warning about this back when
our deficit was where our debt was billions of dollars.
You know, we can't sustain it at this level, and
not a finger lifted since then forward or even in
prior administration, as you point out, going back to Woodrow Wilson. Anyhow,
existential threat, I think is a fair way of summarizing
that reality, which is why you know, I may personally
be fine, but I'm weeping for the status of our

(08:17):
country right now and pivoting over Oh.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
And the Defense Department, Let's give them another one hundred
and fifty billion, because a trillion dollar budget, Pete hegg
Seth really sands meat.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Ye, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
No?

Speaker 1 (08:34):
When they can't pass an audit eight times in a row,
I'm thinking there's got to be a lot of fraud, waste,
and abuse in that trillion dollars or eight or nine
hundred billion whatever it was last year that they could
ferret out and pair back. I mean, I love the
American military, and I salute our American veterans and appreciate
them for signing on the dotted line and serving our country.
But you know, there's so much fraud in that, so

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much waste in that, so many pet projects in that
that are going back to representatives and senators home states
that are totally unnecessary that we're shouldering the burden for
the Biden.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
DOJ indicted a four star admiral for a corruption for
by using federal dollars to buy all kinds of things
from the military industrial complex that we didn't need in
return for a job after he retires.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
He was just convicted the other day.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
I wonder if that's the tip of the iceberg.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well, I'm sure it is the tip of the iceberg.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
We can all presume or assume that if you choose,
But unless they go after him and start searching for it,
like doing a Doge type of inquiry into the good
defense spending, it's never going to see the light of day.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
That's my concern.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
I think you're right, Brian, absolutely right. And if you
talk to Thomas Massey, tell him his biggest fan loves
him and sticking my neck out given where I worked
during the day to defend him.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Well, and I defend him all morning, your honor. So
I knew you were going to talk about it, because
you let me know in advance, but I was just,
you know, maybe not stealing your thunder, but offering my
two cents with it. For all the reasons you and
I just talked about I meant, I think, I think the.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Public sees what's going on, and I think the if
this thing passes, these Republicans will pay a price, and
the price will be there'll be a minority party after
November of twenty six, just eighteen seventeen months from now.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Honestly, I'm reading my t Lea's and we all we
know what opinions are, like the like sphincters, we all
have one. But I don't know necessarily that's the case
because the left has gone or the Democrats have gone
so far over to the I would argue Marxist side
of the equation, the AOC that is the other.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Side of this is that who do the Democrats have?
Well we'll see.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, Well, we'll keep our respective boxes of popcorn out.
Judge Inapolitano, I'll strongly encourage my listeners to read your column,
which comes out of midnight government attacks on private property.
Another stellar column from Judge Annapolitano and a little bit
disheartening though, considering that the Constitution is a demonstrable failure.

(11:07):
You end on that note, and we support all the
reasons why in the column. Is looking for a little
more optimism from you.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Your Honor. But yeah, I get.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Trying to be happy, Brian. And you know what, it's
a three day weekend coming up. That's a reason to behave.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Oh thank you, we did it. Not about a happy note.
Look forward to next Wednesday, another conversation, your honor. Have
a wonderful week.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Back at you, Brian.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
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