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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Advanced surgical options for complex liver and pancreatic cancers in
clinical trials you won't find anywhere else. Got a second
opinion now called five one three five eighty five uce
C see southbound seventy five, heaviest in and out of
Locke on the southbound seventy one. There's a new accident
just after two seventy five. Then brake lights off an
on passed red Bank in bound seventy four backs above Montana.
(00:23):
They cleared the wreck e spend two seventy five above
the Reagan Highway. This is the last segment for twenty
twenty five, So just wanted to take a moment to
wish the judge a very merry Christmas and happy new Year.
We wish you the best in twenty twenty six. Chuck
Ingram fifty five KRC the talk station.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Kind sentiment there from Chuck Ingram to Judge Nita Polton.
Of course every Wednesday, here at this hour and this
time of hour we talk with Judge Nita Polatan. I
love having them on the program, Judging and a Polyton
to welcome back and yes from my listening audience.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
In merrid morning, Chuck, thank you very much, you know,
for all of our busting his chops. That was a
very sincere, moving and lovely comment, and I'm deeply grateful,
and I can't wait for the day when I can
actually meet him and see what he looks like.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I know maybe twenty six will be the year we
can pull that off. Judge and Polatano, you know, it's
a welcome it's a welcome idea. You bring it up
all the time. I, of course, you can't wait for
the day that happens. And I've talked to Chuck Ingram
a bunch of times. He always gets really excited about
the concept. So maybe this will be the year. I
got to tell you, you know, I always love your
column comes out tonight Midnight, Tucker Carlson and the Freedom
(01:34):
of Speech. I always love it. You make great points,
you always back it with constitutional background. You know what
the framers intended. And this one I was particularly taken
with because I almost and that this is an overstatement,
but I almost feel embarrassed that Chuck Schumer is even
advancing this as a concept because of how batcrap insane
(01:55):
it is and how much it flies in the face
of the First Amendment. Let's talk about this what the
hell is going on?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
So Senator Schumer, who is the leader of the Democrats
in the United States Senate, introduced a resolution in behalf
of himself and forty Democratic senators, which is nearly all
of them, it's forty seven of them, to condemn Tucker
Carlson for something he did not say on his show
(02:23):
You got that right. He had this character who offends
a lot of people and says a lot of horrible things,
but he's, you know, the type of person we put
on these shows because people want to hear him. Nick
Flint is who said some things that Schumber and company
didn't like. And so they've actually offered a resolution which
(02:43):
will be a sense of the Senate condemning Tucker Carlson
for failure quote to.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Push back close quote.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
That's actually the phrase from the resolution against this guy,
Nick Flint is.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Now, this is a sense of the Senate. It doesn't
go to the House.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
It's not legislation, it doesn't have the force of law,
but it's the time of It's the type of unconstitutional nonsense,
of betrayal of basic First Amendment principles that the Congress
will occasionally get involved in. If there's speech out there
(03:24):
or silence out there that they hate or fear. It's
simply reprehensible they're doing it. And in fact, when my
producer said to me, hey, Judge, you won't believe what
Chuck Schumer, whose office is right across the street from
where I am now, his New York City office, and
sometimes I see him in the streets and we chat.
You won't believe what Chuck Schumer's up to. Next, I
didn't believe the producer, and I made him get me
(03:45):
a copy of this, and he gave it to me,
and I read it, and I was furious, and I
banged out that column.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I said, well, first off, let me observe. I guess
they don't have anything to do before they go on
Christmas break, that they have time to put forward a
sense of the Senate motion, which has no impact, no force,
and effective law. It's a pointless gesture and it's a
bunch of wheel spinning for the purpose of I guess
grandstanding politically. But I feel embarrassed for him for doing
(04:12):
this for the reasons that you point out in the article.
This is a chilling effect on speech. It's laughable as
a concept, but this is not their role. Their role
is to enforce the constitution and protect and defend it.
That Tucker Carlson has a nut job maybe on the program,
that's his right. Maybe his ratings will drop off because
he got the wrong people on. That's for us to decide,
(04:33):
much like we can evaluate the speech that that guy
or anybody else's uttering.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You used a fascinating constitutional phrase and I want to
dwell on it for just a moment.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Chilling.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Chilling is government behavior which gives speakers pause or second
thoughts or fear before they articulate what their thoughts are
for fear that some something and the government will happen
to them. It is profoundly unconstitutional for the government to
(05:05):
behave to engage in behavior that's chilling. The very famous
case where Jagor Hoover sent to FBI agents. Within those days,
cameras were big, old fashioned things with flash bulbs if
you remember those, to put them in the face of
war protesters and snap pictures. That's chilling, the government literally
(05:27):
figuratively and literally in your face, giving you pause or
second thoughts before you express a political opinion, in this
case on the Vietnam War. Fast forward to today and
chilling is a little bit more sophisticated, but just as terrifying.
Now I know Tucker Carlson, He's not going to be
(05:49):
chilled by this at all. But other people lacking his
backbone and his megaphone might be chilled by a Congress
that picks and chooses which speech it likes and which
speech it hates, and can the speech it hates. The
First Amendment prohibits, absolutely prohibits the government from evaluating the
(06:13):
content of political speech and acting upon that evaluation.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Well and seeing to me, there's a lot of that
going on during the COVID time when we had FBI
agents establishing offices in social media platforms and telling you
and I what we can and cannot say and edit
it and excising certain comments. They can't do that either.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Correct, correct, So this is just reprehensible.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
The Democrats are doing this, I think, and you just
alluded to this, Brian.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
It's all political.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Schumer wants to see if he can force the Republicans
to cast a vote which he will then characterize as
pro Nick Flint, as that's the young man that Tucker
put on the show, and he can then paint the
Republicans in the Senate with the excesses and absurdities and
(07:05):
even horribles that Flentes has articulated. So Tucker runs, as
you say, a private company. It is the second most
watched podcast in the United States of America. He can
put whoever the hell he wants on his show, and
he can say or not say, whatever the hell he
(07:26):
wants on his show. The Congress be damned.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
All right, I have to pivot. I want to get
your thoughts on this because it seems like the stars
are aligning, but not in a very good way.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
And I hope you're not going to ask me about
Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
No, no, no, no, I don't want to go that gloom
and doom. We're trying to have a positive spin on
the Morning show here, So less gloom and doomy than
that is bombs dropping on Venezuela. So we have the
designation of narco terrorism, and that provided a vehicle for
Donald Trump to drop bombs on boats. We've talked about that. Look,
narco terrorists, they got drugs, blow them up, they're narco terras.
(08:00):
Then you have fentanyl. Ventyl has been declared a weapon
of mass destruction. And then just yesterday I believe it was.
Venezuela has been the regime of Venezuela has been designated
a foreign terrorist organization. So are we going to get
the whole that's a foreign terrorist organization. They have WMDs
so we can drop bombs on them. Is that the
(08:20):
next phase here?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Judging Apotoa, probably And it's all about oil.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
It's all about oil.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Donald Trump's own Drug Enforcement Administration go to their website.
Venezuela is not an exporter of cocaine.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Or fent and oil.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
There was a time when it was an exporter of cocaine,
hasn't done it in years. This is all a oila
facade and quick draw Repete just wants to kill people.
He doesn't give the president any resistance whatsoever. Referring to
my former colleague, and I guess after what I've been
saying form a friend of Pete egg Seth.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
So the oil and we've done any a blocking of
Venezuelan oil tankers, so it's beyond just the one we captured,
it's all Venezuelan oil tankers. Arguing that his he illegally
confiscated the oil companies because they did go full on
socialism with his election, which means, yeah, Chevron, sorry sucks
to be you. You invested in the country, new regime.
They took your property from you. This happens all the
(09:19):
time with regime changes like that. But it's more about
regime change with Maduro because if you cut off the
practically the loan source of income he has oil sales,
then his regime is going to collapse.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Well, this is going to have an effect that Donald
Trump may not want because his biggest customer is in Beijing.
I don't think they're just going to sit back idly
while these ships are not allowed to go through the
Panama Canal. I just don't don't think so. I don't
know what's going to happen next. Yesterday the United States
(09:57):
Senate tell me if you think World War three is coming, Brian.
Yesterday the United States Senate voted an absurd They didn't
vote on it.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
They debated an.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Absurd resolution offered by Senator Lindsey Graham to declare the
Russian government state sponsors of terrorism. These are the people
we're trying to negotiate with. As Senator Ranpaul said, we
have sixteen thousand, literally sanctions on the Russian government. The
Russian people, Russian society is sixteen thousand and one going
(10:28):
to make a difference. Why are we doing this? What
are we going to accomplish by it? At the same time,
Trump said he may seize some Russian tankers.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Good luck. Their navy is bigger than ours.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Lots of complicating factors in that one. We now brought
the Russians and the Chinese into the situation off the
coast of Venezuela. Well, at least it's better than talking
about Joe Burrow from a happy, sad standpoint. Judge Innapolitano,
I think he's got one foot out the door.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Parent.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Judging Freedom is Judge A. Poultana's podcast. I'll encourage my
listeners to find it wherever they get their podcasts. How
about today, your honor.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I have the second most listened to and arguably best
known media figure in the Western world on at eleven
o'clock this morning, Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Timing is everything.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Yes, it is, Brian.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
A lot of hits on that one, thanks to Chucky Shubert.
You're going to enjoy that one, I'm sure, yes, Judge a.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
One hour edition of Judging Freedom today at eleven and
then of course, it'll be posted for anybody to download
it whenever they.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Wish, and I'm sure they will. I presume that you
and I will not be talking next Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I think we'll be talking next on January seventh, which
seems a long way from now, but will probably come
like that.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, sadly they're during my Christmas break. The days fly
by like minutes. It's just like I love it but
I hate it at the same time.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
But I am already very Christmas to you and your
family and the happinw you're into, the wonderful people with
whom you work, Joe Strecker and Chuck Ingram, and the
people behind the scenes that help this great show get
out there, whom I have yet to have the pleasure
of meeting.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Thank you very much, Judge Napaula Tano, God bless you, sir.
Merry Christmas, and if you're going anywhere, safe travels to
you and yours.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Thank you Back at you, Brian, all the best.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Eight forty two Right now fifty five kr CD talk
station time to Tall. If you want to give you
a shout, feel free to do so. I'll be right back.
Fifty five krc
Advanced surgical options for complex liver and pancreatic cancers in
clinical trials you won't find anywhere else. Got a second
opinion now called five one three five eighty five uce
C see southbound seventy five, heaviest in and out of
Locke on the southbound seventy one. There's a new accident
just after two seventy five. Then brake lights off an
on passed red Bank in bound seventy four backs above Montana.
(00:23):
They cleared the wreck e spend two seventy five above
the Reagan Highway. This is the last segment for twenty
twenty five, So just wanted to take a moment to
wish the judge a very merry Christmas and happy new Year.
We wish you the best in twenty twenty six. Chuck
Ingram fifty five KRC the talk station.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Kind sentiment there from Chuck Ingram to Judge Nita Polton.
Of course every Wednesday, here at this hour and this
time of hour we talk with Judge Nita Polatan. I
love having them on the program, Judging and a Polyton
to welcome back and yes from my listening audience.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
In merrid morning, Chuck, thank you very much, you know,
for all of our busting his chops. That was a
very sincere, moving and lovely comment, and I'm deeply grateful,
and I can't wait for the day when I can
actually meet him and see what he looks like.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I know maybe twenty six will be the year we
can pull that off. Judge and Polatano, you know, it's
a welcome it's a welcome idea. You bring it up
all the time. I, of course, you can't wait for
the day that happens. And I've talked to Chuck Ingram
a bunch of times. He always gets really excited about
the concept. So maybe this will be the year. I
got to tell you, you know, I always love your
column comes out tonight Midnight, Tucker Carlson and the Freedom
(01:34):
of Speech. I always love it. You make great points,
you always back it with constitutional background. You know what
the framers intended. And this one I was particularly taken
with because I almost and that this is an overstatement,
but I almost feel embarrassed that Chuck Schumer is even
advancing this as a concept because of how batcrap insane
(01:55):
it is and how much it flies in the face
of the First Amendment. Let's talk about this what the
hell is going on?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
So Senator Schumer, who is the leader of the Democrats
in the United States Senate, introduced a resolution in behalf
of himself and forty Democratic senators, which is nearly all
of them, it's forty seven of them, to condemn Tucker
Carlson for something he did not say on his show
(02:23):
You got that right. He had this character who offends
a lot of people and says a lot of horrible things,
but he's, you know, the type of person we put
on these shows because people want to hear him. Nick
Flint is who said some things that Schumber and company
didn't like. And so they've actually offered a resolution which
(02:43):
will be a sense of the Senate condemning Tucker Carlson
for failure quote to.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Push back close quote.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
That's actually the phrase from the resolution against this guy,
Nick Flint is.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Now, this is a sense of the Senate. It doesn't
go to the House.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
It's not legislation, it doesn't have the force of law,
but it's the time of It's the type of unconstitutional nonsense,
of betrayal of basic First Amendment principles that the Congress
will occasionally get involved in. If there's speech out there
(03:24):
or silence out there that they hate or fear. It's
simply reprehensible they're doing it. And in fact, when my
producer said to me, hey, Judge, you won't believe what
Chuck Schumer, whose office is right across the street from
where I am now, his New York City office, and
sometimes I see him in the streets and we chat.
You won't believe what Chuck Schumer's up to. Next, I
didn't believe the producer, and I made him get me
(03:45):
a copy of this, and he gave it to me,
and I read it, and I was furious, and I
banged out that column.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I said, well, first off, let me observe. I guess
they don't have anything to do before they go on
Christmas break, that they have time to put forward a
sense of the Senate motion, which has no impact, no force,
and effective law. It's a pointless gesture and it's a
bunch of wheel spinning for the purpose of I guess
grandstanding politically. But I feel embarrassed for him for doing
(04:12):
this for the reasons that you point out in the article.
This is a chilling effect on speech. It's laughable as
a concept, but this is not their role. Their role
is to enforce the constitution and protect and defend it.
That Tucker Carlson has a nut job maybe on the program,
that's his right. Maybe his ratings will drop off because
he got the wrong people on. That's for us to decide,
(04:33):
much like we can evaluate the speech that that guy
or anybody else's uttering.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You used a fascinating constitutional phrase and I want to
dwell on it for just a moment.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Chilling.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Chilling is government behavior which gives speakers pause or second
thoughts or fear before they articulate what their thoughts are
for fear that some something and the government will happen
to them. It is profoundly unconstitutional for the government to
(05:05):
behave to engage in behavior that's chilling. The very famous
case where Jagor Hoover sent to FBI agents. Within those days,
cameras were big, old fashioned things with flash bulbs if
you remember those, to put them in the face of
war protesters and snap pictures. That's chilling, the government literally
(05:27):
figuratively and literally in your face, giving you pause or
second thoughts before you express a political opinion, in this
case on the Vietnam War. Fast forward to today and
chilling is a little bit more sophisticated, but just as terrifying.
Now I know Tucker Carlson, He's not going to be
(05:49):
chilled by this at all. But other people lacking his
backbone and his megaphone might be chilled by a Congress
that picks and chooses which speech it likes and which
speech it hates, and can the speech it hates. The
First Amendment prohibits, absolutely prohibits the government from evaluating the
(06:13):
content of political speech and acting upon that evaluation.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Well and seeing to me, there's a lot of that
going on during the COVID time when we had FBI
agents establishing offices in social media platforms and telling you
and I what we can and cannot say and edit
it and excising certain comments. They can't do that either.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Correct, correct, So this is just reprehensible.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
The Democrats are doing this, I think, and you just
alluded to this, Brian.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
It's all political.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Schumer wants to see if he can force the Republicans
to cast a vote which he will then characterize as
pro Nick Flint, as that's the young man that Tucker
put on the show, and he can then paint the
Republicans in the Senate with the excesses and absurdities and
(07:05):
even horribles that Flentes has articulated. So Tucker runs, as
you say, a private company. It is the second most
watched podcast in the United States of America. He can
put whoever the hell he wants on his show, and
he can say or not say, whatever the hell he
(07:26):
wants on his show. The Congress be damned.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
All right, I have to pivot. I want to get
your thoughts on this because it seems like the stars
are aligning, but not in a very good way.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
And I hope you're not going to ask me about
Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
No, no, no, no, I don't want to go that gloom
and doom. We're trying to have a positive spin on
the Morning show here, So less gloom and doomy than
that is bombs dropping on Venezuela. So we have the
designation of narco terrorism, and that provided a vehicle for
Donald Trump to drop bombs on boats. We've talked about that. Look,
narco terrorists, they got drugs, blow them up, they're narco terras.
(08:00):
Then you have fentanyl. Ventyl has been declared a weapon
of mass destruction. And then just yesterday I believe it was.
Venezuela has been the regime of Venezuela has been designated
a foreign terrorist organization. So are we going to get
the whole that's a foreign terrorist organization. They have WMDs
so we can drop bombs on them. Is that the
(08:20):
next phase here?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Judging Apotoa, probably And it's all about oil.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
It's all about oil.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Donald Trump's own Drug Enforcement Administration go to their website.
Venezuela is not an exporter of cocaine.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Or fent and oil.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
There was a time when it was an exporter of cocaine,
hasn't done it in years. This is all a oila
facade and quick draw Repete just wants to kill people.
He doesn't give the president any resistance whatsoever. Referring to
my former colleague, and I guess after what I've been
saying form a friend of Pete egg Seth.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
So the oil and we've done any a blocking of
Venezuelan oil tankers, so it's beyond just the one we captured,
it's all Venezuelan oil tankers. Arguing that his he illegally
confiscated the oil companies because they did go full on
socialism with his election, which means, yeah, Chevron, sorry sucks
to be you. You invested in the country, new regime.
They took your property from you. This happens all the
(09:19):
time with regime changes like that. But it's more about
regime change with Maduro because if you cut off the
practically the loan source of income he has oil sales,
then his regime is going to collapse.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Well, this is going to have an effect that Donald
Trump may not want because his biggest customer is in Beijing.
I don't think they're just going to sit back idly
while these ships are not allowed to go through the
Panama Canal. I just don't don't think so. I don't
know what's going to happen next. Yesterday the United States
(09:57):
Senate tell me if you think World War three is coming, Brian.
Yesterday the United States Senate voted an absurd They didn't
vote on it.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
They debated an.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Absurd resolution offered by Senator Lindsey Graham to declare the
Russian government state sponsors of terrorism. These are the people
we're trying to negotiate with. As Senator Ranpaul said, we
have sixteen thousand, literally sanctions on the Russian government. The
Russian people, Russian society is sixteen thousand and one going
(10:28):
to make a difference. Why are we doing this? What
are we going to accomplish by it? At the same time,
Trump said he may seize some Russian tankers.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Good luck. Their navy is bigger than ours.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Lots of complicating factors in that one. We now brought
the Russians and the Chinese into the situation off the
coast of Venezuela. Well, at least it's better than talking
about Joe Burrow from a happy, sad standpoint. Judge Innapolitano,
I think he's got one foot out the door.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Parent.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Judging Freedom is Judge A. Poultana's podcast. I'll encourage my
listeners to find it wherever they get their podcasts. How
about today, your honor.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I have the second most listened to and arguably best
known media figure in the Western world on at eleven
o'clock this morning, Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Timing is everything.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Yes, it is, Brian.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
A lot of hits on that one, thanks to Chucky Shubert.
You're going to enjoy that one, I'm sure, yes, Judge a.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
One hour edition of Judging Freedom today at eleven and
then of course, it'll be posted for anybody to download
it whenever they.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Wish, and I'm sure they will. I presume that you
and I will not be talking next Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I think we'll be talking next on January seventh, which
seems a long way from now, but will probably come
like that.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, sadly they're during my Christmas break. The days fly
by like minutes. It's just like I love it but
I hate it at the same time.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
But I am already very Christmas to you and your
family and the happinw you're into, the wonderful people with
whom you work, Joe Strecker and Chuck Ingram, and the
people behind the scenes that help this great show get
out there, whom I have yet to have the pleasure
of meeting.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Thank you very much, Judge Napaula Tano, God bless you, sir.
Merry Christmas, and if you're going anywhere, safe travels to
you and yours.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Thank you Back at you, Brian, all the best.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Eight forty two Right now fifty five kr CD talk
station time to Tall. If you want to give you
a shout, feel free to do so. I'll be right back.
Fifty five krc
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