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North Bend. Coming up next, guest, who's filled team? The
Giants finally pulled one out this past week. I just
(01:05):
think about could be worse. A judge could be a
Bengals fan. He yikes, Chuck Ingram Punk fifty five the
talk station, a nine five KRCD talk station.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I suppose the Bengals could use an extra fan, considering
the number of fans dramatically reduced given the way the
season's going this year. Welcome back, Judge Innapolitano. I love
this second.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Thank you, Brian, A pleasure to be here. Now, forgive
my ignorance. What is the Bengals record?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Two and two and the only reason, the.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Only reason the old Giants one and three?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, but I bet you didn't have to rely on
the other team for your lone victory. If it weren't
for the poor play of our opponents, we wouldn't even
have two to put under our belt. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, the one victory we have, even though we have
this new quarterback, it was two interceptions, one by a
you know, refrigerator perry size defensive lineman.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I remember the fridge. You're going back way back for
that one?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yes, well, how could you forget him?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But if you weighed about three hundred and fifty or
four hundred.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Pounds, No, kidding well, and I suppose one thing you've
got that we don't have. Our quarterback has a glass
jaw phenomenon. He gets injured when you just look at him.
So Joe Burrow's out for months with the turf toe
injury on the heels of prior injury.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
How talented he is. I didn't know he was that
injury prone. I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, it's it's breaking everybody's heart because he is truly
an amazing quarterback when he's able to play. What a
gauge your reaction. I'm kind of curious to get your
action on the government shutdown just before we dive on
into you the column, which is outstanding. I called you out.
I read this thing in my response to the judgment
you were on You were on fire when you wrote this.
(02:53):
It's an answered yep, yep. But before we dive into
some of the the the historically related information about the
sending federal troops into cities to enforce state law, maybe
you get a reaction to the government shutdown. This seems
to be nonsense. This is proof that once you establish
a government program that does have a finite lifespan. When
(03:14):
they passed the law extending supplements to people over the
four hundred percent of poverty level. It had a deadline.
That deadline is the end of this year. The Democrats
voted for that. Knew this was coming, but don't let
a good crisis go to waste. We got this cr
thing because they didn't do their work yet to get
the twelve appropriation bills passed. We're heading toward an omnibus
thing again. Since nineteen ninety seven, they haven't done it,
(03:37):
so they put the brakes on it yesterday. We're shutting
the government down over this quote unquote entitlement that really is.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Did you know if you look at what is shut down,
it's sort of the non essential things the government parks,
the public parks and things like that. The military is
still there, the FBI is still there, the TSA is
still there, the IRRAS is shutdown. I mean, I don't
want to sound snarky. I would probably have voted with
(04:07):
Senator Ran Paul in that I wouldn't vote to increase
the government's debt. Of course, in my world, there would
be no Obamacare, there would be no transfer payments. The
government would only do what it's expressly authorized to do.
In the Constitution. That's not the world we live in,
and you can't undo that overnight. But you're right. One
of the ways that they got Obamacare through back in
(04:31):
the Obama days, you know, we're talking twenty one year,
we're talking twenty twelve, was by having these sunsets in there. Now,
of course, they don't like the sunsets. The sunsets will
hurt people who were relying on it, and the Democrats
(04:52):
seem to feel that this is a fertile political base
for them for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well, since the waiver of the four hundred percent of
poverty cap at sixty two five was done because of COVID,
the predicate doesn't exist anymore, the very reason for its
existence doesn't exist anymore. And we're not talking about people
who are necessarily in life's margins. You know, sixty two
five hundred dollars may seem like a small amount to some,
(05:21):
but that's kind of average income level in the United States.
So we're not talking about folks who are you know,
on say, assisted living SNAP benefits, living in a Section
eight housing. We're talking about people with jobs that have
monetary resources.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Agreed agreed with you, And this is This is the
problem that we confront when people are given government large
s and they plan their lives around it, and then
it ends. It's it's painful for them. They complain to
their elected representatives who don't want to lose their jobs,
(05:59):
and so they do things like this. I don't know
who wins politically when they have these shutdowns. It's hard
to say. It depends on whether it's a long one
and there's a lot of pain, or a short one
and it's soon just a memory.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Well I think most of them, even the longer ones
are still just a memory. I don't recall that much
quote unquote bad happening when it was shut down for
a month of one time. So anyway, but the war
in media has changed. The landscape has changed dramatically over
the past number of years, where the mainstream media does
not have this ominous, overwhelming narrative that everyone swallows. There's
(06:39):
so many options out there by way of news and information,
and people are gravitating more and more to that every day.
So you can't force a unified message down everybody's throat anymore, right.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Right, The alternative media of what you and I are
happily apart airs views and presents facts that and offers
interviews that mainstream media doesn't go near. And the alternative media.
If you add it up, and the aggregate is huge.
(07:10):
It's larger than mainstream media in terms of the number
of people who flocked to us.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Well, I'm going to go ahead, and I appreciate your
willingness to talk about that. And then that kind of
came out of the left field. But your column, who
will protect us from the protectors? Comes out to night
at midnight. I'm fortunate man, given that I get it early.
You pointed out something that I had forgotten about that
you know, federal law. There are federal laws, and the
FBI and the EJ are forcing federal laws. But now
(07:41):
Donald Trump is sending federal troops into various cities, and
the question is are they enforcing state laws? Are they
just protecting federal property. We have the issue of the
posse commatatis, which is a problem I think for the
trouble administration under these circumstances. But you pointed out after
nine to eleven, the Bush administration, and you suggest perhaps
to divert tension from its having slept on that faithful
(08:02):
day began a federal state collaboration to fight terrorism. That's
where that foot got in the door, with the notion
that federal agents could be there to enforce state laws.
And that seems the road we've gone down to, and
that's on the heels of j Edgar who were using
the war on gangsters back in the thirties to expand
the reach of the FBI.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Correct. Correct, So Bush expanded the reach of the FBI
and the DEA because of this false argument that virtually
all crime is to strike at national security. Now, Trump,
of course is trying to take it a step further
by his efforts to federalize police. When I read this
(08:46):
executive memorandum, which has gotten zero publicity, was utterly scandalous.
One of the reasons that a federal judge in Los Angeles,
who was upheld by the appellate court hasn't ruled on
it yet invalidated the use of federal troops in LA
was because they were chasing bank robbers, chasing drunk drivers,
(09:11):
chasing shoplifters. They didn't know how to make arrests, they
didn't know how to give mirandam warnings, they didn't know
how to preserve evidence. Many of the people that were
arrested cannot be prosecuted because the people arresting them had
not been trained. Are we going to see the same
thing in Chicago and Portland? Is President Trump doing this
(09:32):
because he hates Governor Pritzker. There's a lot to dislike
about Governor Pritzker. Is he doing it because he hates
the lefties on the left coast in Oregon? If the
answer to those questions is yes, this is profoundly wrong.
Is he doing it because he thinks they're doing a
(09:53):
bad job and the Feds can do a better job
profoundly wrong? Is he doing it because federal assets need
additional protection acceptable under the statute?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Well, a part of me and may be wrong now,
I think obviously they can protect federal property, and federal
property is worthy of protecting. I paid for it, you
paid for the American people paying to maintain whatever's already
been built. So there's a justification in that. Insofar as
him having a political objective, I think he's read the polls.
I think he's seen the crime statistics, and he thinks
that maybe he can get more voters and more people
(10:28):
on his side if he's the one that brings about
law and order, people who.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Desperately you're I think you're right. I mean the New
York Times this morning. Trump's poll rating is slow but
stable after a rocky summer, A not Iraqi, a rocky summer.
He's down everywhere except one area crime. So a lot
of people do not care. And I know this from
(10:54):
emails that I get, which are very candid. As you
can imagine, a lot of people don't care about the
federalization of police. They seem to feel safer now in Washington,
d C. The military is now off the streets, But
in the thirty two days that they were on the streets,
(11:15):
museum traffic way down, restaurant traffic way down, traffic traffic,
Carson Streets way down. People just didn't like confronting military
with automatic weapons in their hands as they went about
their lives.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, I guess on some of them, I understand that.
But you're also talking about the bluest of blue regions
in it, I say, the world though, So you may
have a political bent rejecting Donald Trump's efforts there reflected
in the absence of people on the street. You go
to restaurants and yeah, frequently business.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I would imagine if he did this in Dallas, Yeah,
which obviously doesn't need it. But if he did this
in Dallas, the troops would be cheered.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, that David speaks volumes. They don't need it in
Dallas because they are on the right side of law
enforcement there hearts and mind people. And finally for we
part company to day Judge of Paul Tano, Governor Louisiana
requested one thousand of these federal agents to come into
the state. And he said, and my reading of it
(12:16):
is he, the Governor Louisiana, will maintain authority and control
over their operations so that he.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Does not need to request anything of the Defense Department.
The Louisiana National Guard works for him. All he has
to do is pick up a phone or sign an
executive order. They work for him. Can they be used
to enforce law, Yes, under the governor's direction. That's entirely different.
The same human beings, but entirely different. If Gavin Newsom
(12:48):
had called out the California National Guard in Los Angeles,
they could chase bank robbers, they could arrest drunk drivers,
they could chase down shoplifters because they're under the command
of the government. That's the constitutional distinction. Health safety, welfare,
morality reserved by the Tenth Amendment to the States, kept
(13:11):
by the Tenth Amendment away from the Feds.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Judge Jennita Paulaton. We always end with a discussion of
what's coming up on Judging Freedom. Folks find his podcast
Judging Freedom. It's easy to find wherever you get your podcasts.
You talking to today, your honor.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I have a Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson who's about to do
a dance on the head of Pete hag Seth and
President Trump for their political speeches yesterday, Phil Giraldi what
the CIA is doing to sow seeds of revolution in Venezuela,
Oh jeez. And Professor Jeffrey Sachs on Prime Minister Natignall,
(13:46):
who's repudiation of the agreement that Donald Trump forced him
to smile about in the oval of its. He repudiated
it in his playing on his way back to Israel.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Shocking literally no one who's been following that situation. Judge
out in a Pollatona Judging Freedom. We'll all be listening. God,
bless you, Sarah, look forward to next Wednesday. You're a
good man.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
You got it. Brian, thank you all the best.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Take care, forty two the fifty five KRC detalk station.
Get a few minutes off from the show. If you
want to give me a call, I'd love to hear
from you. Five one, three, seven, four nine fifty five hundred,
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Here's your Channai first warning. Weather forecast can be partly
cloudy today. I have eighty two fifty three overnight with
few clouds, partly cloudy tomorrow with a high of eighty one,
clear skys over night with a drop of fifty five
and for football Friday eighty five for a high and
partly cloudy skies. Right now fifty eight degrees. It's traffic
con chuck ingram from the UCL Traffic Center.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
The u See Cancer Center offers person of ice, prostate
cancer and care exclusive plentyical trials and treatments who won't
find anywhere else called five one three five eighty five
uce CEC crews continue to work for the wreck. Southbound
on seventy five at Cincinnati Dayton leplane's blocked off traffic
back enough close to Monroe and it's going to be
(00:43):
an extra twenty minutes to get through the jam minimum
southbound seventy one. It's over a twenty minute delay between
Field zero and Red Bank northbound fourth seventy one's back
enough pass Grand there's a wreck on Westwood Northern at
North Bend. Coming up next, guest, who's filled team? The
Giants finally pulled one out this past week. I just
(01:05):
think about could be worse. A judge could be a
Bengals fan. He yikes, Chuck Ingram Punk fifty five the
talk station, a nine five KRCD talk station.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I suppose the Bengals could use an extra fan, considering
the number of fans dramatically reduced given the way the
season's going this year. Welcome back, Judge Innapolitano. I love
this second.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Thank you, Brian, A pleasure to be here. Now, forgive
my ignorance. What is the Bengals record?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Two and two and the only reason, the.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Only reason the old Giants one and three?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, but I bet you didn't have to rely on
the other team for your lone victory. If it weren't
for the poor play of our opponents, we wouldn't even
have two to put under our belt. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, the one victory we have, even though we have
this new quarterback, it was two interceptions, one by a
you know, refrigerator perry size defensive lineman.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I remember the fridge. You're going back way back for
that one?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yes, well, how could you forget him?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But if you weighed about three hundred and fifty or
four hundred.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Pounds, No, kidding well, and I suppose one thing you've
got that we don't have. Our quarterback has a glass
jaw phenomenon. He gets injured when you just look at him.
So Joe Burrow's out for months with the turf toe
injury on the heels of prior injury.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
How talented he is. I didn't know he was that
injury prone. I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, it's it's breaking everybody's heart because he is truly
an amazing quarterback when he's able to play. What a
gauge your reaction. I'm kind of curious to get your
action on the government shutdown just before we dive on
into you the column, which is outstanding. I called you out.
I read this thing in my response to the judgment
you were on You were on fire when you wrote this.
(02:53):
It's an answered yep, yep. But before we dive into
some of the the the historically related information about the
sending federal troops into cities to enforce state law, maybe
you get a reaction to the government shutdown. This seems
to be nonsense. This is proof that once you establish
a government program that does have a finite lifespan. When
(03:14):
they passed the law extending supplements to people over the
four hundred percent of poverty level. It had a deadline.
That deadline is the end of this year. The Democrats
voted for that. Knew this was coming, but don't let
a good crisis go to waste. We got this cr
thing because they didn't do their work yet to get
the twelve appropriation bills passed. We're heading toward an omnibus
thing again. Since nineteen ninety seven, they haven't done it,
(03:37):
so they put the brakes on it yesterday. We're shutting
the government down over this quote unquote entitlement that really is.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Did you know if you look at what is shut down,
it's sort of the non essential things the government parks,
the public parks and things like that. The military is
still there, the FBI is still there, the TSA is
still there, the IRRAS is shutdown. I mean, I don't
want to sound snarky. I would probably have voted with
(04:07):
Senator Ran Paul in that I wouldn't vote to increase
the government's debt. Of course, in my world, there would
be no Obamacare, there would be no transfer payments. The
government would only do what it's expressly authorized to do.
In the Constitution. That's not the world we live in,
and you can't undo that overnight. But you're right. One
of the ways that they got Obamacare through back in
(04:31):
the Obama days, you know, we're talking twenty one year,
we're talking twenty twelve, was by having these sunsets in there. Now,
of course, they don't like the sunsets. The sunsets will
hurt people who were relying on it, and the Democrats
(04:52):
seem to feel that this is a fertile political base
for them for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well, since the waiver of the four hundred percent of
poverty cap at sixty two five was done because of COVID,
the predicate doesn't exist anymore, the very reason for its
existence doesn't exist anymore. And we're not talking about people
who are necessarily in life's margins. You know, sixty two
five hundred dollars may seem like a small amount to some,
(05:21):
but that's kind of average income level in the United States.
So we're not talking about folks who are you know,
on say, assisted living SNAP benefits, living in a Section
eight housing. We're talking about people with jobs that have
monetary resources.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Agreed agreed with you, And this is This is the
problem that we confront when people are given government large
s and they plan their lives around it, and then
it ends. It's it's painful for them. They complain to
their elected representatives who don't want to lose their jobs,
(05:59):
and so they do things like this. I don't know
who wins politically when they have these shutdowns. It's hard
to say. It depends on whether it's a long one
and there's a lot of pain, or a short one
and it's soon just a memory.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Well I think most of them, even the longer ones
are still just a memory. I don't recall that much
quote unquote bad happening when it was shut down for
a month of one time. So anyway, but the war
in media has changed. The landscape has changed dramatically over
the past number of years, where the mainstream media does
not have this ominous, overwhelming narrative that everyone swallows. There's
(06:39):
so many options out there by way of news and information,
and people are gravitating more and more to that every day.
So you can't force a unified message down everybody's throat anymore, right.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Right, The alternative media of what you and I are
happily apart airs views and presents facts that and offers
interviews that mainstream media doesn't go near. And the alternative media.
If you add it up, and the aggregate is huge.
(07:10):
It's larger than mainstream media in terms of the number
of people who flocked to us.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Well, I'm going to go ahead, and I appreciate your
willingness to talk about that. And then that kind of
came out of the left field. But your column, who
will protect us from the protectors? Comes out to night
at midnight. I'm fortunate man, given that I get it early.
You pointed out something that I had forgotten about that
you know, federal law. There are federal laws, and the
FBI and the EJ are forcing federal laws. But now
(07:41):
Donald Trump is sending federal troops into various cities, and
the question is are they enforcing state laws? Are they
just protecting federal property. We have the issue of the
posse commatatis, which is a problem I think for the
trouble administration under these circumstances. But you pointed out after
nine to eleven, the Bush administration, and you suggest perhaps
to divert tension from its having slept on that faithful
(08:02):
day began a federal state collaboration to fight terrorism. That's
where that foot got in the door, with the notion
that federal agents could be there to enforce state laws.
And that seems the road we've gone down to, and
that's on the heels of j Edgar who were using
the war on gangsters back in the thirties to expand
the reach of the FBI.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Correct. Correct, So Bush expanded the reach of the FBI
and the DEA because of this false argument that virtually
all crime is to strike at national security. Now, Trump,
of course is trying to take it a step further
by his efforts to federalize police. When I read this
(08:46):
executive memorandum, which has gotten zero publicity, was utterly scandalous.
One of the reasons that a federal judge in Los Angeles,
who was upheld by the appellate court hasn't ruled on
it yet invalidated the use of federal troops in LA
was because they were chasing bank robbers, chasing drunk drivers,
(09:11):
chasing shoplifters. They didn't know how to make arrests, they
didn't know how to give mirandam warnings, they didn't know
how to preserve evidence. Many of the people that were
arrested cannot be prosecuted because the people arresting them had
not been trained. Are we going to see the same
thing in Chicago and Portland? Is President Trump doing this
(09:32):
because he hates Governor Pritzker. There's a lot to dislike
about Governor Pritzker. Is he doing it because he hates
the lefties on the left coast in Oregon? If the
answer to those questions is yes, this is profoundly wrong.
Is he doing it because he thinks they're doing a
(09:53):
bad job and the Feds can do a better job
profoundly wrong? Is he doing it because federal assets need
additional protection acceptable under the statute?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Well, a part of me and may be wrong now,
I think obviously they can protect federal property, and federal
property is worthy of protecting. I paid for it, you
paid for the American people paying to maintain whatever's already
been built. So there's a justification in that. Insofar as
him having a political objective, I think he's read the polls.
I think he's seen the crime statistics, and he thinks
that maybe he can get more voters and more people
(10:28):
on his side if he's the one that brings about
law and order, people who.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Desperately you're I think you're right. I mean the New
York Times this morning. Trump's poll rating is slow but
stable after a rocky summer, A not Iraqi, a rocky summer.
He's down everywhere except one area crime. So a lot
of people do not care. And I know this from
(10:54):
emails that I get, which are very candid. As you
can imagine, a lot of people don't care about the
federalization of police. They seem to feel safer now in Washington,
d C. The military is now off the streets, But
in the thirty two days that they were on the streets,
(11:15):
museum traffic way down, restaurant traffic way down, traffic traffic,
Carson Streets way down. People just didn't like confronting military
with automatic weapons in their hands as they went about
their lives.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, I guess on some of them, I understand that.
But you're also talking about the bluest of blue regions
in it, I say, the world though, So you may
have a political bent rejecting Donald Trump's efforts there reflected
in the absence of people on the street. You go
to restaurants and yeah, frequently business.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I would imagine if he did this in Dallas, Yeah,
which obviously doesn't need it. But if he did this
in Dallas, the troops would be cheered.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, that David speaks volumes. They don't need it in
Dallas because they are on the right side of law
enforcement there hearts and mind people. And finally for we
part company to day Judge of Paul Tano, Governor Louisiana
requested one thousand of these federal agents to come into
the state. And he said, and my reading of it
(12:16):
is he, the Governor Louisiana, will maintain authority and control
over their operations so that he.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Does not need to request anything of the Defense Department.
The Louisiana National Guard works for him. All he has
to do is pick up a phone or sign an
executive order. They work for him. Can they be used
to enforce law, Yes, under the governor's direction. That's entirely different.
The same human beings, but entirely different. If Gavin Newsom
(12:48):
had called out the California National Guard in Los Angeles,
they could chase bank robbers, they could arrest drunk drivers,
they could chase down shoplifters because they're under the command
of the government. That's the constitutional distinction. Health safety, welfare,
morality reserved by the Tenth Amendment to the States, kept
(13:11):
by the Tenth Amendment away from the Feds.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Judge Jennita Paulaton. We always end with a discussion of
what's coming up on Judging Freedom. Folks find his podcast
Judging Freedom. It's easy to find wherever you get your podcasts.
You talking to today, your honor.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I have a Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson who's about to do
a dance on the head of Pete hag Seth and
President Trump for their political speeches yesterday, Phil Giraldi what
the CIA is doing to sow seeds of revolution in Venezuela,
Oh jeez. And Professor Jeffrey Sachs on Prime Minister Natignall,
(13:46):
who's repudiation of the agreement that Donald Trump forced him
to smile about in the oval of its. He repudiated
it in his playing on his way back to Israel.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Shocking literally no one who's been following that situation. Judge
out in a Pollatona Judging Freedom. We'll all be listening. God,
bless you, Sarah, look forward to next Wednesday. You're a
good man.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
You got it. Brian, thank you all the best.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Take care, forty two the fifty five KRC detalk station.
Get a few minutes off from the show. If you
want to give me a call, I'd love to hear
from you. Five one, three, seven, four nine fifty five hundred,
eight hundred and eight two three talks pound five fifty
on AT and T phones. Be right back, fifty five
KRC
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The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.