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October 25, 2024 • 12 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Seven oh five, the fifty five KRCD talk station. A
very happy Friday to you, made extra special right now
because I'm happy to welcome back. You may remember him
as the mayor of the City of Cincinnati. You may
remember as the Ohio State Treasurer or perhaps Secretary of
State of Ohio. Also, you may know him as the politician, author,
and conservative activist he is. You know I'm talking about
Ken Blackwell, welcome back to the morning show, my friend.
Always enjoy our conversations.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Good morning, Brian, Good to hear your voice, Good to
be with you.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Okay, Well, you know where you're drawing your support is
usually illustrative of who's behind something or whether or not
you should vote for it. It's like the company you keep.
It can be reflective of one personality. There is not
a single conservative outlet or well, I know there are
foreign billionaires, no conservative outlet. It's all left wing organizations,

(01:03):
groups and foreign billionaire that hands George Week's guy, who
are the money behind issue Vote yes on Issue one,
which is going to change the gerrymandering rules and just
merely codified and hand it off to a so called
independent panel of folks that is established by this alchemy process.
I mean I can refer to alchemy.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
You've read it. Look, this is the most non transparent
initiatives that I've seen in a very long time, you know,
requiring up to fifty seven extraordinary complex steps to make
a new electoral map. And what kids meet, Brian, is

(01:44):
that this plan requires adding sixteen thousand, six hundred and
forty three words or sixteen pages of small type to
the Ohau Constitution buyers feed way.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Oh mind, this is a.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Paragraph like I haven't seen in a long time. And
you know that chrisscrossed this country, actually chriscross the globe
looking at election issues, and I will tell you this
is a humdinger and it must be defeated well.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
And it's interesting, isn't it, Ken black Well, that they're
launching this effort and throwing these literally countless millions of
dollars to convince people to have yes on it, because
oh I always now a red state. It's no longer purple,
it's not blue. They need to They can't get their
foot in the door in campaigning or on issues. So
how they're gonna do it. They're gonna read, They're gonna
gerryman themselves into positions of power.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
It's crazy. Issue one creates an unelected, unaccountable commission to
redraw the state's maps to favorite Democrats. Pure and simple,
this could decide which party control those Congress, letting Democrats
push their liberals and or even impeached Donald Trump if

(03:07):
Americans re re electing this November. Yeah, as you mentioned,
this is fueled. This is funded by out of state
dark money groups that are pushing this radical change in
how districts are drawn in the in the in the

(03:28):
state of Ohio, and just not only effects the US
House seats, this would in fact state legislature, our Ohio
state legislature seats. And so when you look at a
group like this sixteen thirty fund that has already pulled

(03:49):
more than twenty million dollars in foreign tied cash into
Ohio and over six point six million for Issue one alone,
you know that if, in fact it walks like a duck,
talks like a quacks like a duck, it is a dug.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
And I wish we didn't have the SEC staring us
down our faces here and kind of we could use
more a more specific terminology for that one. The National
Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers. I don't
know what connection they have with Ohio jerrymandering, but those
two organizations through a million and a half dollars at it.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Oh yeah, absolutely, And before I forget it, if folks
want to listeners want to know more about this, go
to stop Issue one. And that's not the that's the
numeral one. Stop issue one dot com. It is so
important that we in fact get folks out to the polls.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
And so.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Just as in the other the presidential election, we want
that folk margin to be big to rig. We in
fact need to stop this bad initiative.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Isn't there one point in the process a senior recall
where basically you're just pulling names out of a hat.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Right, I'm just going to tell you I've seen I've
seen a lot of political trickery in all of my
seventy six years. But let me tell you this again.
This is so non transparent, so confiluted, so almost just

(05:36):
playing stupid, But it is in fact they are dead
serious in trying to pull the world over old House.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Voter's eyes well, and the other component of it, and
really what offends me the most. I mean, people might claim, oh, well, yeah,
we can vote people out of office, but you got
to wait a couple of years for that, you know,
comment's always end up getting re elected anyway. Well, that's
a problem, it's our fault. But there's a form of
accountability when you have an election. My understanding is that
no citizen of the state of Ohio can contest the

(06:08):
whatever redrawing, whatever legislative map that this committee comes out with.
The zero accountability, you can't go to court. At least
some of the current system. Yes, they have been challenged
in court. Yes, redistriction has been found to be unlawful
for a number of different reasons. They go back to
the drawing board and they come up with a new
one and that gets challenging Courdant's either approved or not.
But at least there is a form of accountability. We

(06:31):
got nothing here, do we.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, we don't. And it's always been confusing to me
how people actually want to take politics out of politics.
There's no way that you can put together a commission
and then insulated, isolated, protected from accountability, and think that

(06:57):
you know, a group of politicians actually haven't you know,
concocted this, you know, And so what we have now
and you just mentioned it. You know, we have a
system that voters put in place and that voters can
use to hold elected officials accountable, period, and they want

(07:21):
to change it. You know, you talk about, you know,
empowering the administrative state. This is that notion on steroids. Yeah,
this would completely radicalize and oretically change the old how
political governing model without the input of accountable citizens and

(07:48):
elected officials. And it's just plain dangerous it is.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
And that's the point of it. I mean, you just
summed up the reason they want it passed. It's absolutely shame.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
But we have to go out and vote no on
Issue one and protect our state and our elections from
foreign billionaires and their liberal cronies in Columbus.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Amen to that Stop Issue one, the number one stop
issue one dot com. You get all the reasons. Why.
Let me ask you this, And I'm not suggesting Ken
blackwhether you can climb into her head and know what
the hell she's doing. But former House Supreme Court, just
as Maren O'Connor came out and said vote yes on
Issue one, any idea what's going through her mind or

(08:34):
is it.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Just a you know, I just think she has a
bone to pick and Marin is a friend, but on
this one we are bumping heads and it's just a bad.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Idea, bad idea. If you need any convincing just look
at the list of supporters. It's page after page after
page of every left wing organization you can come up with.
And then again fundamentally to the point, what does a
Swiss multi billionaire who funds progressive left wing causes around
the globe have to do with the state of Ohio?
And why is he willing to commit twenty five million

(09:12):
dollars to this effort? That's crazy right there.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
It really is. You know, commissioners appointed by judges and
which have been aided and abitted by a private hiring firm,
and this amendment gives the commission a constitutionally guaranteed blank
check for any legal expense, without legislative oversight and no accountability. Man,

(09:40):
this is bad.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
It is really bad, point after point after point after point.
And plus you know, a law degree, seven years of
college and a law degree plus fifty nine years of
existence on the planet still don't really quite get it
as I've read through it, Ken, it is a monumental.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Mess to get out and vote no get out quote.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Thank you Ken Blackwell for speaking succinctly on the issue
stop Issue one dot com. Ken, I look forward to
our next conversation. You keep up the great work, my friend.
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