Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas 11/26/2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And now Kevin Gordon filling in for Brian Thomas on
fifty five KOs the talk station.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Five minutes after five o'clock, Kevin Bourdon in for Brian
Thomas fifty five KRC. As the intro said, at some
point this morning, I'm going to have to reintroduce or
make mention of why that opening is the way that
opening is, but we'll have to save that and tease
that for later. Hey, Happy Thanksgiving Eve. I hope everybody

(00:44):
is getting geared up. This is not the day to
tell people to be cautious, or tomorrow the day to
be cautious, or to tell people don't eat too much
or whatever. My advice is to you know, that's one
day out of the week or out of the year
that you can just you know, so crazy and enjoy yourself.
It is a feast, one of those things, you know,

(01:05):
very Americana and very much American. And what is interesting
is that, as far as the Gordon family is concerned,
over the last several years, we have been traveling going
to either our son's house or where he works. He
is a chef, and so they couldn't come. You know,

(01:26):
when you're in the food industry business, and you are
service industry, your schedule in terms of what your holiday
season is like, and it doesn't matter what holiday it is,
it is off a bit, you know. I do America's
truck and Network and so geared towards the trucking industry.
The trucking industry is not geared towards what is normal

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holiday time, off, vacation time, et cetera. And what you
see in the service industry is a lot of people
if like police fire, whatever, they may have their Thanksgiving
on that Wednesday. They may have it and postpone it
till the weekend, but they don't generally celebrate it on
Thanksgiving Day because they're on call, or they're on duty,
or they're out on the road and so on. So

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in the food industry, food service industry, people are working
that day. And so when he was at a location
where he was working, we would go up there for Thanksgiving.
And then his family is out of town, Northwest, so
we've been going up there. So this year for the
first time, and gosh, I'm trying to figure out when
the last time we did it was we were actually

(02:32):
hosting Thanksgiving this year, I would say probably at least
going back to maybe pre pandemic, maybe something along those lines.
But what's interesting is that when you get out of
the swing of things. We have been doing Thanksgiving as
a family, my wife and I, for well, this is

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about this is the thirty fourth year. And so when
you're doing that on a regular basis, year after year
after year, into a groove, I have a tendency. When
we started doing these things, I had some recipes that
my mom had and the first year that we had Thanksgiving,
we were going to have that we were together. We

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decided to have a lot of the family member the
local family members from here because as you know, I'm
from Columbus, and so I wasn't able to you know,
break away, and we weren't able to go up there
for Thanksgiving. So we decided to have it down here
and had her family over and so on. And what
happened was is that I think it was the Monday before,
she got some sort of an upper respiratory virus or

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something along those lines, and she was sick, and so
I wound up having to do the turkey, the dressing
or the stuffing. Rather, there's a cranberry recipe that my
mom had passed down and very excellent. I don't even
know what to call it. We call it, we used
to call it when I was a kid, cranberry sauce.

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But it isn't out of the can. This has got apples, walnuts, apples, walnuts,
celery in it, jello, fresh cranberries, and some sugar and
water and so on. So it's not quite what you
would call a typical cranberry sauce, but it does set up.
There's jello in it, so it does set up a
little bit. You don't put it in a mold because

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it's you know, with all the other ingredients. So anyway,
but what wound up happening is I wound up doing
everything myself, including making a cheesecake and I think one
other dessert I don't remember what it was, and she
got so sick that I wound up having the bundle
you bag everything up, put it in the roaster, and
transport it up to her sister's house so that the

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family could meet up there and have Thanksgiving. So that
was our first Thanksgiving, and then from that point on
it wound up being pretty good to the point where
we were doing on a regular basis. I think the
maximum people are the largest number of people we ever
served was around twenty five. Generally we're around in the
almost ten eight nine somewhere around that neighborhood. This year

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we're going to have about ten people over to the house.
And it's interesting when you get out of that groove.
And I'm the kind of guy that when you have something,
when I learned this from my mom that when you
have an event or you do something, you have your
notes and you have your recipes, and then when something
goes wrong or something just doesn't turn out quite right,

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you make a note of it and you adjusted for
the following year. When we used to go up to
Lake Erie, you had to have the cottage we stayed in.
You had to bring your blankets or sheets, You had
to bring all this stuff, and you couldn't depend on
them to have the actual pots and pans if there
were certain things that you needed to bring. So my
mom would make a list Lake Erie, whatever, and then
she'd make a list of everything that was to be taken,

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and then the following year it would be the previous
list plus the items that they forgot or wanted to
have the previous year, and so on and so on.
All the recipes that I have. I have all these
notes out to the side and all this stuff that
we have done over the years, and a lot of
the stuff that we do, you know, we tweak it.
We tweak some of the recipes a little bit to

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jazz them up a little bit. And so it's interesting
going back through the records and going back through the
stuff and seeing how this has evolved through the years,
and then getting back into the swing of things in
terms of timing, making sure that, okay, what you prepare
on Sunday night so it's available, so that it gets together,
then the desserts and all this, and this year it's

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going to be a little bit of a wrinkle. Normally
we have Thanksgiving dinner around five o'clock, but our granddaughter
and one of the reasons that our son is coming
down here to celebrate is the fact that his daughter
has to work at three o'clock in the afternoon, so
we're going to actually have the Thanksgiving meal at twelve
o'clock or at noon, which is kind of really throws

(06:53):
the schedule off because you generally try to plan to
have stuff ready by five o'clock. So I've gone back
in and I've looked at the timetable, and I said, Okay,
we've got to back this up to here, got to
back this up to here and here as we go
go on from here. But it's interesting. I'm the kind
of guy I guess that if something doesn't go right,

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I'm already thinking in terms of plan B, Plan C,
Plan D, and if that doesn't work, we go to D, E,
F G H, I j K. Sometimes, but it's all
it's to me. It's it's kind of the if something
goes wrong, something's not going right, or if you forget something.
You got to make numerous trips to the to the

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grocery store because of certain dietary needs that people have
and something that they want to eat as opposed to
maybe something we plan just to you know, to kind
of cater to everybody. We have had. It's been I
don't want to say disruptive, but it has not been
the smoothest process. But part of the process is the

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journey of getting there and letting the things get you down,
get you upset, you just kind of okay, take a
deep breath and move through it. I did an interview
with the folks from Butterball Turkey Talk Line a few
weeks ago, and one of the things that they talked
about was that even seasoned professionals at Thanksgiving, something like

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forty percent of the people that do Thanksgiving have some
sort of a are disc are, are uncomfortable and are
not geared towards that, and it's and it's it makes
them upset. And the problem is is that when you
do a celebration only once a year and you make

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the turkey and all that, you're not used to that
on a regular basis. So it requires planning, it requires
certain things, and to ease the I guess uncomfortableness of it,
the Butterball Turkey people are there. They're on. You can
go to their website if you have any questions, frequently
asked questions and whatever. It's a tremendous resource. Every year

(09:06):
that I'm on the air, I always try to have
them on, so that kind of relieve that stress for everybody,
so that people go into the Thanksgiving season stress free,
because it's supposed to be a day of celebration. It's
supposed to be a day of family and friends, and
you just don't want to run yourself crazy trying to

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do stuff perfect. It's never always going to be one
hundred percent perfect, but part of the process is getting
there and making sure that you have a great time.
So that's been what's going on around the Gordon household.
We've got a lot of stuff that we've got to
prepare today and then in order to have that meal
at noon tomorrow. But I'm looking forward to that and

(09:48):
looking forward to the process, and I hope every one
of you out there that so far what you're experiencing
is fun and make it fun. Coming up, I want
to talk about one thing that I saw last night
as I was getting ready to hit this hit the bed,
getting ready for the morning, that there's and we have

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seen a lot of people relying on AI here recently,
and the process of AI is well, it's disruptive, it's
created some problems. It's not always accurate, and people are
finding that out in the food preparation process. Phone numbers
seven four, nine, fifty five five one three, seven four

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nine fifty five hundred one, eight hundred eight two three
talk one eight hundred eight two three eight two five
five pound five point fifty on your AT and T
wireless phone. I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas. Fifty
five KR s the talk station.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Like that, the same under dreams at the same time
every night, following the ground and.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
I wait you us so I get out of the bed,
put on my Susan in my head. Thus to the break,
these gaws are closing in. Look God, since five nineteen

(11:33):
in the morning, Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty
five KRC. The fact that you are hearing that right now,
knowing that I have not been in here for several months,
I'm sure you've been out of your mind and out
of your head because you haven't been able to hear
my voice on fifty five KRC. So I played that
especially for you or actually Danny, my Danny Gleeson, my

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producer today. So again here we are. Now. I mentioned
before for the break that AI is creating some problems.
As far as now, I don't know how much you
use AI. I know that you know artificial intelligence and
so on. Is that there's a big thing and everybody

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is jumping on board and all this sort of stuff.
I have to say that I am relying on Kevin
intelligence because you know, I've talked about this numerous times
in terms of autonomous cars and stuff like that. Driverless cars.
I don't think I will ever get into a car
that I can't that somebody's not controlling. And quite honestly,

(12:37):
I don't even like being in a car where somebody
else is driving. That's how I mean. It's because you know,
I trust my reaction time, and I trust how I
a judge looking at traffic and looking forward and looking
to the right. My wife one time I was coming
home and I had I was doing FaceTime with my

(12:58):
wife because we were talking and she was saying, my god,
your head is constantly turning, your eyes are going side
to side, back and forth and whatever. It's almost like,
are you okay? And I said, well, you know, that's
the way I drive. And I'm always looking at my
right mirror, my left mirror, but rear view mirror, cars
ahead of me, and that type of thing. So I'm

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constantly aware of what's going on around me, so that
my reaction time. So if somebody, you know, if I
know somebody's you know, tailgate me or whatever, plan on
that how somebody is over in the other lane, if
for some reason somebody does something stupid. And I got
to tell you that since COVID, the COVID crazies out there.
I think people forgot how to drive or they're much

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more aggressive because there's an awful lot of crazies on her. So,
as my wife says, I just interrupted myself because I
was talking about AI. But I don't trust artificial intelligence
to a great extent. It is a tool, just like
way back in the day when the Internet first happened,
you know the old saying that, well, if it's on
the Internet, it's to be true. We found out quickly

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as far as the Internet was concerned, that not everything
on the Internet is accurate, not everything on Twitter is accurate.
As technology has evolved, and what we're seeing as far
as artificial intelligence, when you do a search and they say, well,
here's some of the responses based on AI, here's some

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of the things. I find myself kind of looking at
that a little bit. But then the whole thing of trust,
but verify going to the original source or going to
a couple of stories in order to find out what
the actual facts are. Now what we're seeing here and
the story that I was talking about, and of course
we'll talk about a little bit more because we're probably

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not going to have time to go through all of it.
But the title of this is AI slop recipes are
taking over the Internet and Thanksgiving dinner recipe bloggers say
AI generated some and recipes are distorting how people find
cooking advice online, damaging their businesses and potentially ruining holiday dinners.

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AI AI generated content, including images and recipes, is often
inaccurate and can be hard to distinguish from real recipes,
with bloggers reporting sharp declines and visibility and traffic. I
don't I've talked to Dave Hatter yesterday and had him
on my Americastruck a network program, and it recorded something there.

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Now I'll have him on tonight as far as the
show is concerned. But we talked about earlier that with
a lot of what's going on in terms of the
Internet and identity errors and these these thieves have gotten
so sophisticated in terms of being able to steal websites.

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Change a number here, as he pointed out that if
the webs site itself has a zero in it, if
you replace that website, as you're cloning that website or
manufacturing a new website or a false website, if you
change that zero to a capital or to the capital letter, oh,

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that changes the website completely, and so people are getting
very good. The thieves are getting very good at making
the websites appear accurate, and if you rely on that,
that gets into stolen identity, stolen bank accounts, and people
getting ripped off in the blogsphere. As far as these

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people are concerned, people are actually going in and tweaking
even the image of these bloggers, changing it a little bit,
making it appear very similar similar to the original blog,
but then putting up false information on there as far
as recipes are concerned, and it's creating problems in the

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food industry, or as far as these influencers or whatever
in terms of their customers coming to them, because if
it appears as though that it's their blog or their
web page and somebody goes there and does a download
of a recipe that is a disaster, then their business

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takes a hit and they don't the people that get
burned by that don't understand that they went to the
wrong website, and so then all of a sudden they
distrust the original blogger, who really had nothing to do
with the false identity. So this is something that's going on,
and we'll talk a little bit about that coming up,
because it's gotten pretty crazy. Bloggers are warning some home

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cooks to be wary of era AI generated recipes and
to verify the sources of the content they find online,
as the rise of AI generated content threatens livelihood of
food bloggers and the quality of online rest peak content.
You don't want to go to one of these false
because what AI does is they go out and they

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pick up bits and pieces, sometimes from different recipes and
throw those in. AI isn't trained to know that, well,
this particular ingredient acts differently with this other ingredient here,
and you have to change the measurement if you're using
that instead of this other. And so if you're going
on based on the basic overall recipe, it can be

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a disaster and the food can taste completely different because
you're not following the actual original recipe. Phone numbers five
to one, three, seven, four nine, fifty five hundred one,
eight hundred eight two three talk one eight hundred eight
two three eight two five five pound, five point fifty
AT and T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in for Brian
Thomas fifty five K see the talk station five twenty

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nine in the morning, Kevin go an in for Brian
Thomas fifty five KRC the Talk station. I'm finishing up
on this particular story here that we ended the previous
segment with, is that a lot of these recipes talking
about this AI the title AI slop recipes are taking
over the Internet. And the sad thing is is that

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as you know, people are relying more and more on
AI generated information. When you put in H and you
want to search for something, a lot of times what
is necessary is for you to check the sources, make
sure that you're getting the accurate information, make sure that
it's from a reputable source. Just like I said, going

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back to when the Internet first came about, people were
relying way too much on the Internet. They felt that, well,
if it's on the Internet, it's got to be true.
And you know, we saw how that worked out years ago.
But when we're seeing this AI and AI even it's
been around for a number of years, we're just seeing
more of it now because AI his technology has been

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there gosh decades even, and so although it's becoming more
and more prominent, to a large extent, it's still in
its infancy because as you develop, as it grows, it
will be tweaked and it will get better, but at
least on the outset. The whole thing about you know,

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when you're talking about computer programming, when you're talking about
the information that is derived from that, is the same
old thing of garbage in, garbage out. So if the
people that are putting these algorithms into this AI, if
it's not accurate and if it's not correct, you're going
to have a far different outcome. And so it's very

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much necessary to be leary of what is going on
out there in terms of what you find, and especially
you know, I didn't even think well, I thought that
this was possibly a problem, but some of these bloggers
are saying that even the pictures they look at, some
of these pictures that accompany some of these false blogs
or these fake blogs, they can pick out right away

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that whatever is there isn't like what the product is
supposed to look like. And so it's been creating some
problems for them as far as traffic into their website.
So anyway, let's get to the phones here real quick.
We've got Susie I believe Sudie fifty five, Caro, see
how are you this morning?

Speaker 3 (21:35):
I'm just Peter kan jelly bean, how about.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Your sell I am doing just fine. I'm behind the
microphone and it doesn't get any better than that for me.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Well, I am behind the wheel if it wasn't raining
and everyone driving crazy.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Where you at right.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
South seventy five passing Glendlle Milton. Oh okay, it's starting
to rain. The winners picked up that six am thing?
Is you're you know it's already here.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Okay, So how are you doing this morning?

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Well, I'm on the way to pick up my first passenger,
so that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
But I drive exactly the same way you do. I
am constantly checking my mirrors. I am constantly looking around me.
I memorize the types of cars, how fast are going
because I can't tell you how many times I've had
to make a split second decision and swerve in order

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to not get hit by some idiot he doesn't know
how to drive or got his license from either. Gab
and do some more a cracker jack box.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, there you go. Exactly are you seeing it with
passenger vehicles or more with trucks or what?

Speaker 4 (22:51):
Do you?

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Where are you seeing most of the I'm seeing it
mostly with the passenger vehicles that people just and the
way people drive, it almost seems like they think the
repair bills, you can replace a front end of your
car for twenty five bucks.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
You know, well they got their their are connections in
the tap shop, so why not?

Speaker 5 (23:10):
Yeah, exactly, But no, it's it's both.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
I have nearly been sandwiched between two semis before because
when Semi decided he didn't want to exit off of
one twenty nine and decided to move right back into
the lane that I was now occupying, had a slam
on my brakes. Thank god I was in a smaller

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vehicle than the suv I own now, because the back
end of his trailer was over the top of my hood.
That was how closed I came to being sandwiched.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Wow, that is that is right, way too crazy. And yeah,
we're seeing in the trucking industry a lot of these
people that are going to these well it's it's almost
where it's almost a fake driving school where they're not
actually certifying these people as far as on the road
as well as even making sure that they are English

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language proficiency and they're able to get these licenses. And
there's been a crackdown on that. But believe it or not,
there are courts that are actually fighting this because they
think it's unfair to a certain segment of the community. Well,
I'm sorry, if you're driving on the highway and you're
trying to go from exit to exit or traveling, and

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especially if you're driving an eighty thousand pound vehicle, you
ought to be able to understand road signs, traffic signals
where you're at, and being able to read English. That
would seem to me to be one of the basic
qualifications and skills you should have.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Oh, absolutely agree with that. But they're also right in
the fact that it is unfair. It's unfair to the
people who actually know English, follow the laws, read the
sign and.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
Do what they're supposed to do.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Absolutely well, Susy, I want you to be safe out there. Okay,
have a great holiday. You got big plans for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
I am actually catering one of my regular passengers family
dinner for them.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Oh how cool.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, I've never actually quote unquote catered. I've always just
cooked for people. But he's like, yeah, we don't want
to do it, so will you?

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah? How many people?

Speaker 7 (25:31):
About fifteen?

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Wow? Wow, that is not a small That is not
a small feast.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Well, it's not the smallest I've ever done.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
I used to.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
I used to do the Thanksgiving dinner for the homeworks
at my old church that fish shelter them.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
For the holidays. For you, I did.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Christmas dinner for them, but that was twenty years ago.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Oh boy, Well, best of luck, the best of luck
to you. Hope everything turns out well. And be safe
out there, will you? You too?

Speaker 6 (26:05):
Happy Thanksgiving?

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Happy Thanksgiving? Soothing phone numbers five one, three, seven, four nine, fifty,
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Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KR. See

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the talk station five forty one in the morning Kevin
Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KR. See the
talk station. Phone numbers five one, three, seven four nine, fifty,
five hundred one, eight hundred eight two three talk one

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eight hundred eight two three eight two, five five pound
five point fifty on that AT and T wireless phone.
By the way, every time I come in here. I
generally not generally, I always try to post on Facebook
as to the lineup, and if you went to my
Facebook page you will see who I've got scheduled for today.

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Right now, the only person I've got scheduled is a
fellow by the name of Guy Harper. He is the
owner of Patriot Shop. Now. I ran into Guy. I
met him way back, well not way back, but back
in August. Remember two weeks after that violent attack in
Cincinnati where that one woman was knocked out and the

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street violence was getting out of control. They had the
town hall meeting there. Jim and Jack's over there on
the west side, and Corey Bowman, the vek warm Ramaswami,
they were both there and I met this gentleman there
and during the process of the Q and A, he

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actually spoke up and had some very poignant comments to make,
and it was interesting, so typical of when you go
to events and then you read what the newspeople cover.
As far as that event is concerned, it is completely different.
And so I told him that the next time I

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was on, I was going to have him on and
we talk about because of basically his business traveling around
to do these different shows and selling Trump merchandise and
so on. He is seeing a lot of what's going
on at the grassroots level, and I wanted to get
his feedback. Plus some of his comments that were etched
from or deleted, I guess from the news story. And

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I've spoken about this numerous times that back in twenty
ten twenty, throughout pretty much of the teens, as far
as political stuff going on in northern Kentucky, a group
of us were very active going to fiscal court meetings,
county commissioner meetings, different city council meetings, just to kind

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of pay attention to what's going on, trying to hold
their feet to the fire in terms of tax increases.
Back during that period of time, of course, there was
the attempt to toll the Brent Spence Bridge and all that, which,
by the way, that was such an emergency situation that
it had to be built right here right now, back

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in twenty what thirteen, twenty twelve, and we still don't
have that first shovel turned over in order to build
that companion bridge down there. So again, but off the
subject there, but when I would attend these meetings, I
would go to them and I'd come home and I'd

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tell my wife A said, boy, that was a pretty
good meeting. This guy had this to say, this guy
had that to say. And then when it got time
for the nightly news or the newspaper report the following morning,
she would say, and it was became a joke with us.
She goes, did you really go to that meeting last night?
Were you out doing something else? Because the report of

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this meeting, as far as what was said versus what
you said was said, is completely different. And what it
is is that I found at a lot of these meetings,
you know, you could have somebody in the in the
audience that makes a brilliant point about what they're they're doing,
what they're not doing, et cetera, And as soon as
the meeting's over, the reporters make a bee line not

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to the person that had the comment, not to the
person that raised the question. They go to the commissioners
or the mayor or somebody like that to get their
take on it. I guess it's a way of them
protecting quote their sources so they don't have to work
very hard. So if they're fed this information from these people,
then they've got a story. They don't have to do

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much work or do much digging. And that's why years
ago I started referring I've been referring to them for
a long time, about thirty years now, the spoon fed
regurgitators in the mainstream media because there's very little reporting,
actual reporting, digging into the details and finding out what's
really going on as far as the story is concerned.

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And basically what they are done is they are fed
this information and then they regurgitate it to us and
so that we get what they want us to hear
as opposed to what the accuracy is. So anyway, he'll
be on at the seven o'clock hour. Uh So, got
that coming up, and I want to talk a little
bit more about this. AI slop recipes phone numbers five

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to one, three, seven, four nine fifty, five hundred one,
eight hundred eight two three talk one, eight hundred eighty
AT and T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas,
fifty five KRS de talk station five fifty one in

(32:12):
the morning, Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five
KRC the talk station phone numb where is this coming
from my voice anyway? Five one three, seven, four nine
fifty eight hundred eight two three talk one eight hundred
eight two three eight two five five pound, five point
fifty AT and T wireless phone if you want to
get on board now, kind of finishing up this story

(32:34):
as far as AI generated recipes again, if you're relying
on that for tomorrow. If you're planning on some recipes,
make sure you go to the source. Make sure you
go directly to the website, the influencer, the chef, or
whoever you follow, whether it's you know, well, whatever website

(32:56):
you go to, normally, make sure that you're getting the
accurate recipe. Like I said, I can remember back when
the internet first came about. You know, you used to
depend on your mom or your grandmother to pass down
recipes to the family and then you would tweak it
from there. But people kind of got away a little
bit from cooking or sharing. I can't tell you the

(33:18):
number of people I've talked to who they said, well,
my mom never let us in the kitchen. Now my mom,
you know she would get well, you know, she was
cooking for five of us, the five boys, and then
my dad. So there was seven of us in the family,
and then for Thanksgiving, we generally had my grandparents over
and a couple of other people. So generally we were

(33:40):
having a dinner for about twelve, sometimes as many of
fifteen people, and to try to get that ready, it's
kind of stressful. So I started helping my mom in
the kitchen. Picked up a lot of information that way.
But I'm surprised how many people will say, my mom
never let me in the kitchen, so I don't know
any of her recipes. She didn't write anything down, so

(34:01):
I don't have that. You know, if you do something,
if you are cooking, if you are preparing recipes and
you family enjoys them, write them down so you can
pass them through. It's kind of a bit of a legacy,
if you will, so that people can remember those times.
I've got a recipe that my mom gave me for
as I said, this cranberry salad and stuff and being

(34:24):
and using this over the last thirty four years. It's
showing its age. You can see some of the splatters
on it. You see some of the spots and stuff,
and it's aging. It's aging. Well, you can still read it.
But when I look at that I think in terms
of back to the time when I first tried that
recipe for the first time on my own, how great

(34:45):
it was, and what the experience was. And so by
having these notes, by having these recipes and then updating them,
making sure that you make notes as far as what
went wrong, what didn't, what went right, and some ways
of pairing it or maybe the timetable shifting so on
that way, you look back on that and it brings

(35:07):
back a flood of memories in terms of, you know,
a Thanksgiving of you know, two thousand and eight Thanksgiving
twenty fifteen or something like that, because you see the
individual notes there and it's kind of a bit of
a time capsule. So again with this story, the title
of this story was AI slop recipes are taking over

(35:29):
the Internet. Make sure you go to the right websites.
Even if the picture online looks right, make sure you
put in the right URL and go to that because
as I said, as Dave Hatter has pointed out, some
of these hackers and when they go in here, they
will actually change just one of the digits or one

(35:50):
of the characters within that website and it takes you
to a completely different website, So be aware and be cautious,
because again you don't want your things Thanksgiving ruin by
a crappy recipe. Uh So, coming up top of the arm,
we'll get into a little bit of more mischief here.
Uh Phone numbers five one three, seven one, eight hundred

(36:12):
eight two three talk one eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five pound, five point fifty AT and
T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty
five KRC The Talk Station.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
And now Kevin Gordon filling in for Brian Thomas on
fifty five KRS the Talk Station.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Six o seven in the morning. Happy Thanksgiving Eve. I'm
telling you what. I am so excited for this Thanksgiving holiday.
As I mentioned in the previous hour, we are going
to have Thanksgiving at our house for the first time
and probably gosh, I think even pre pandemic because our

(37:06):
son has been out of town and they have been wanting.
He's a chef, so obviously he knows a lot about food,
and it's very good. I'll tell you what. I'm a
little sidetracked there. I've teased about the fact that there
are certain foods that I have never ever wanted to eat.
I mean for some reason that I just don't like
the look of him. I don't like the taste of them.

(37:28):
But Brussels sprouts has never been a favorite of mine.
But he has a way of preparing those that is
just absolutely excellent, to the point where I've said that
he can put anything in front of me and I'll
eat it, which is probably a bad thing if he
didn't like me, or if somebody's trying to poison me,
that would be a problem, because obviously you know i'd

(37:51):
eat it. But I'm teasing. But sort of the last
several years he has been cooking Thanksgiving, and so we
have been going up there, been bringing some stuff and
so on. But this year his daughter, who is still
in Cincinnati. They moved up to the northern northwestern part
of the state a couple of years ago, and so

(38:12):
she is still down here, but she has to go
to work at three o'clock on Thanksgiving afternoons, so she
can't go up there for Thanksgiving. So we're just gonna
go ahead and have it here. There'll be about ten
people there at the Thanksgiving. And I mentioned how kind
of interesting it is to get back in the saddle
again trying to coordinate and going back through the notes

(38:33):
in terms of when the prepper, you know, when you
start prepping things, because it is a process. If you know,
this is not something you just slop together one day.
There are certain things that you have to bake, certain desserts,
certain things, certain parts of the recipe that you start. Well,
in my case, there's certain things that we start on
Sunday and to make sure that they're available for Thursday.

(38:56):
And so all that process and get the timing down
and whatnot has been interesting. And of course going out
and buying the groceries. Now that's one of the things
I kind of want to talk about this hour. I've
been here and we keep hearing a lot about food inflation.
We've been hearing a lot about inflation overall, and the

(39:18):
thing that is irritating me about these reports is that
they don't dig into what is actually causing the inflation.
It's one of those things. When Liberation Day happened back
in April the second, when the tariffs were put into place,
where the announcement of the tariffs were put in place, which,
by the way, if you're talking about fair trade, if

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a country is charging massive amounts of tariffs on your
goods going into that country, and you are charging very
little on their goods coming into your country, you are
at a competitive disadvantage. Their products coming in here in
some cases are cheaper because the manufacturing process is less

(40:03):
over there. Some of the stuff is government subsidized, especially
when we're talking about China, we're talking about slave wages.
I've talked about how the wages over in China are
between five dollars and seven dollars an hour. There are
no fringe benefits, there's no vacation time, there's no workers' compensation,
unemployment insurance, or any of that. So their hourly wages

(40:26):
are five to seven dollars. Here in the United States,
that average hourly wages somewhere around north of thirty seven
dollars and fifty cents. So, right off the bat, in
terms of labor, with the same raw materials, the same manufacturing,
the same energy process, you're going to have a product
that's a little bit more expensive. So if we're trying

(40:47):
to sell goods into Europe and they're subsidizing their countries,
when was the last time you saw a story over
in Japan where there was a Ford f one fifty
or an American car. We've got plenty of Toyotas, Nissans, etc. Here,
We've got plenty of Audi's, We've got plenty of Volkswagens.
We've got plenty of BMW's and Mercedes in this country.

(41:09):
But you don't see many American cars in Europe. So again,
unfair advantage and so trying to level that playing field
as a negotiating term, to try to bring their tariffs
down to make things more competitive. That's what Liberation Day
was all about. Now we have heard people say that
in the Federal Reserve saying that tariffs are going to

(41:30):
lead to inflation, and that there's going to be rampant inflation.
It could possibly cause a recession. This was the talk
back in April, and then May came around, June came around, August, July,
August and so on, and they kept saying, well, we're
not seeing inflation yet, but it's just around the corner.
Well it hasn't been around the corner. And as a
lot of experts say Phil Flynn, who I talked to

(41:51):
on a regular basis, he is the senior advisor with
a group called Price Futures Group. We've got Kevin o'lear,
the one of the people on Shark Tank. We've got
what's his name, Charles Payne from Fox Business Network, and
Lou Dobbs and a couple of other people. But you

(42:13):
go through the list of people that say that tariffs
in and of themselves don't lead to inflation, I'm in
that camp. Tariffs don't necessarily lead to inflation. What really
does lead to inflation is overspending by the federal government,
subsidies putting out putting out those the checks, the pandemic

(42:37):
checks that came out that even the last round of those,
people were saying they were unnecessary to put out there,
that it would lead to inflation, and sure as hell,
it did lead to inflation, nine point one percent inflation
in the month of June of twenty twenty two. Now,
when you've got government spending and you have subsidies going

(42:59):
out there, that is what is going to raise prices.
We saw that when the government put in these credits
for the evs, they were saying that you could take
a tax credit of seven thousand dollars. Miraculously, the cost
of these evs across the board pretty much went up
seven thousand dollars. So without doing the tax credit, that

(43:22):
car would have been seven thousand dollars cheaper. But because
they realized that people were going to get this tax credit,
which they could deduct from their taxes, owed, they figured, well, shoot,
we'll just bump up the price of these cars. And
so they got an extra boost there, an extra profit
as far as that was concerned. And so when you
have these subsidies, these are the things that lead to inflation.

(43:44):
When you have out of control of fiscal spending and
wasteful spending as far as the government, that leads to inflation.
Not necessarily tariffs tariffs. What they'll do is they'll raise
prices on certain goods but lower prices on others, so
that across the board the inflation is relatively even. And
so that was some of the discussion back then. Now

(44:06):
what we're seeing as far as some of the inflation
going on, people are talking about, oh, it's teriffs, it's
terriff related. Well, go back to the pandemic. Back when
everything was shut down. The manufacturers were closed down, restaurants
were closed, nobody was doing anything. Once those businesses opened
back up, what happened We started having supply chain issues

(44:28):
and some companies because they weren't prepared for the amount
of customers that they were having. They didn't buy enough,
and so they didn't have enough on hand to be
able to sell. And so when customers would complain that, well,
you know, I can't find anything I you know, certain
items on the menu aren't available, sold out, and so on,

(44:49):
they blamed it on supply chain issues, when in fact
it was they're not ordering properly. So you saw some
of these excuses. We had problems with people coming back
into the workforce because of these COVID relief checks that
were going out, and people were looking at that and saying, well,
I'm still collecting state unemployment. I'm getting these government checks

(45:10):
and when I add that all up, it's more than
what I would be making going back to work. So
a lot of people stayed out of the labor force,
and the labor participation rate came down, and then of
course the company's trying to gear back up to take
care of the customers coming back in. They had a
tough time dealing with the lack of having the available

(45:31):
employees to take care of the business that they needed.
So as an excuse, they talked about supply chain issues
with this inflation. We're seeing people blaming it on teriffs.
They're blaming it on as far as you know, well,
basically tariffs is what they're blaming it on. But when
you dig into the numbers, some of the things just
don't pan out. We'll talk about that coming up. Phone

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numbers five one, three seven form and by the way,
I want your impression. I want your ideas in terms
of this Thanksgiving season if you're seeing a large increase
in what you're spending as far as your Thanksgiving meal
versus what you've seen in the years past. Phone numbers
five one, three, seven, four nine, fifty five hundred one,
eight hundred eight two three talk one eight hundred eighty

(46:15):
fifty five kr s DE talk station six twenty one
in the morning Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty
five KRC the talk station. Phone numbers five one, three, seven, four, nine,

(46:42):
fifty five hundred one, eight hundred eight two three talk
one eight hundred eight two three eight two, five five pound,
five point fifty AT and T wireless phone. Yeah, you're
probably a little bit of thunder struck out there this morning,
especially if you listen to the spoon fed regurgitators in
the main stream media talking about the economy. Now, taking

(47:03):
the consideration the fact that going back to twenty fifteen,
when Donald Trump first came down the escalator, from that
point on, ninety four percent thereabouts of the coverage of
him has been negative during his presidency, the first presidency
ninety some percent negative coverage, going into this presidency, ninety

(47:27):
some percent, ninety four ish percentage negative coverage. As far
as tariffs, as far as the economy, as far as
everything that this man does, there's always this ninety four
percent or thereabouts talking down. I talked about, and I've
talked about several times, the fact that looking at the
way the spoon fed regurgitators in the mainstream media reacted

(47:51):
since January, talking about prices, talking about the economy, talking
about they were trying to talk down the economy, and
and in my opinion, they are trying or we're trying
to manufacture a recession. But the resilience of the American public,
the resilience of the of the people, the fact that

(48:12):
we go to work every day, we keep our nose
to the grindstone, we do the things that we're supposed
to do. Has been keeping this economy flowing. They keep
talking about, well, retail sales are going to go down,
and there I can't tell you the number of times
that I've done the radio program for America's Trucking Network
and talked about certain economic things where the sentence is

(48:34):
or the headline is, consumer price index comes in lower
than expected, retail sales higher than expected, job creation higher
than expected, unemployment numbers lower than anticipated. And we keep
seeing and every time there is a situation where maybe

(48:55):
the unemployment numbers for the week go up a little bit,
all of a sudden, the sky is falling. And obviously
this is a sign that we're heading towards a recession
or a downturn in the economy. What we're seeing as
far as the labor force right now, we are seeing
a no higher, no fire situation. We've got a situation

(49:18):
as far as the economy is concerned, because of high
interest rates. And I will stress that high interest rates
the fact that people businesses are not expanding, People are
not going out and buying that new piece of equipment
for their factory or for their business. They're not building
onto their business. They're not making a physical addition. People

(49:41):
in the trucking industry are not going out and buying
new trucks because again they're not sure in terms of
how the economy is going or is more than anything else,
they are. They know where the economy is going, they
know that their businesses is strong, but in order to
go out and that piece of equipment, it's going to

(50:02):
cost them money. And then when you look at the
interest rate on top of that, that makes your return
on investment not so great. And the fact that we
have all this, you know, the higher interest rates. If
you look at the interest rate on that overnight fed
charge that they talk about, which is what the Federal
Reserve does as far as their interest rate, that is

(50:24):
the amount of interest that is charged to member banks
who have to borrow money from other banks in order
to meet their cash obligations, either on a payday or
sometime during the month. And so that's the overnight rate.
But that then is reflected in terms of your credit
card payment of filters into your mortgage, filters into any

(50:46):
of the other car loans and stuff that you go
out and you buy or that you incur interests, and
so when those rates go up, it costs you money
on a regular basis, and it adds to the value
or adds to the cost of a home, cuts into
the amount of home you can afford because of the
high prices that you're going the interest rate that you're

(51:07):
going to pay, and so that's holding the housing market back. Well,
the single biggest thing, in my opinion, that is holding
back this economy right now is the interest rates. When
you're looking at a mortgage in some areas above that
six percent six point five percent interest rate, that is
holding down interest rates. We saw a couple of weeks

(51:29):
ago there was an eighty one percent increase in terms
of people wanting to refinance their home because locally or
in areas, the interest rate went down at half a
percentage point. If that much is going to happen over
a half a percentage point, imagine if we had interest
rates down to where they were at the end of

(51:50):
the first Trump administration around three percent. Most mortgages at
that time were below three percent two point seventy five
point eighty seven. That is one of the things that's
holding back people from jumping into or or maybe downsizing
or buying a new home because they have a low
interest rate. They don't want to give that up, which

(52:12):
means that then people going into the marketplace, there isn't
a big supply. So a lot of the things that's
holding back our economy right now, in my opinion, are
interest rates and when you look at the different food costs,
when you look at things as far as Thanksgiving is concerned,
I'm not seeing personally, and I'm curious as to what
you're seeing out there in terms of what these costs

(52:32):
are doing as far as your Thanksgiving is concerned. Phone
numbers five one, three, seven, four nine, fifty, five hundred one,
eight hundred eight two three talk one eight hundred eighty
fifty five krs the talk station, six thirty one in

(53:03):
the morning. Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five
k see the talk station. Danny Gleason my producer this morning,
and I must be on some sort of a wavelength
here because we didn't talk about what bumper music to
use for this session or this segment here, but how
appropriate talking about local headlines. Joe Burrow is going to

(53:26):
be on the field Thanksgiving night, so you know, kind
of like who are you actually, It's going to be
kind of like who are the Bengals? Which Bengals is
going to show up? Are they going to ever show up?
In terms of their well defense has been doing pretty well,
but again the coverage or the protection of the quarterback

(53:46):
has been horrific. Anyway, Joe, who are you? Burrow is
going to be as confirming that he is going to
be starting Thanksgiving night versus the Ravens. He said that
during the press conference. Now some other local headlines that
we're covering for you this morning, cruispond to a three
alarm fire in Westchester. Several emergency agencies were called to
a fire at a manufacturing facility in Westchester. Fire broke

(54:08):
around three fifteen forty two hundred block of Thunderbird Lane
inside a commercial building. Westchester officials said everyone who was
inside the building made it out safely and there are
no threat to public stil the fire was so intense
that the cruise had to battle it from the outside
first to make sure that no one was injured. Talking
about the facility. It has happened producing matting for car floors.

(54:32):
Prince said, the owner of Chief Prins the fire chief.
The fire is reportedly a three alarm fire, resulting in
numerous departments responding to the scene. So again, floor mats.
That's going to have to be some sort of a
toxic problem there, But threat to the community is not there.
Community rallies around help after a Northern Kentucky family loses

(54:55):
fire loses everything to a fire. Northern Kentucky family is
safe tonight after fast moving the house fire destroyed everything
they own just days before the holiday season. Relatives say
the caught Ill family Sycamore Drive home went up in
flames around two am November sixteenth. According to Nicole hard

(55:15):
Reader hark Hearken Reader Homes, the homeowners sister, fire may
have started from faulty wiring connected to a fish tank
in the middle of the home. However, a lot of
the people in the community has come to the aid
of this family. They were talking about some of the
stuff that they've done as far as go fund me
trying to get this family back on their feet. And
I can't imagine a worse time well, having a fire

(55:39):
at any time during the year is bad, but generally
when you have a tragedy around a holiday season, that
then obviously marks that holiday season, but every holiday season
thereafter and there's always that constant reminder year after year
after year of that tragedy. So again, uh, hope everybody

(56:02):
is safe out there. Pay attention to what you're doing,
making sure make sure you don't overload certain circuits, don't
hook stuff up electrically. Electrically, especially when you're putting up lights,
make sure that they're outdoor type of chords that you
don't use inside chords for that, and be sure that

(56:22):
you're not overloading certain circuits. You don't want to cause
any fire this time of the year. So just a
little bit of the warning there. Coming up. We got
a little bit more in terms of I want to talk.
I keep wanting to talk about this, you know, inflation
that we're that we're either seeing or not seeing phone
numbers five one, three, seven four nine, fifty five hundred one,

(56:42):
eight hundred eight two three eight seven four phone numbers
eight hundred eight two three talk. Let's just go to
the news six thirty nine in the morning, Kevin Mordon

(57:08):
in for Brian Thomas fifty five K. See the talk
station phone numbers five one, three, seven, four nine, fifty, five,
hundred one, eight hundred eighty two three talk one eight
hundred eight two three, eight two five five or a
pound five point fifty on that AT and T wireless phone.
To the phones we go, Let's talk to Bobby. Bobby,
how are you.

Speaker 8 (57:28):
This morning, mister Gordon. It's a pleasure that it.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Is a pleasure to hear your voice. Let me tell
you that. Yeah, yeah, how are you.

Speaker 8 (57:39):
I'm doing well, my friend.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
It's been a while.

Speaker 8 (57:42):
It's been a while, but I want to congratulate you
because we discussed conspiracy theories in the last few years
and they've all come to pass. I didn't know if
you had your crystal ball out.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Today you're not well. Yes, we do. You know when
you you know, as we've discussed in the past, it's
a matter of kind of seeing things from history, seeing
things the way they develop, and a good dose of
common sense. So you know, when you're thinking in terms
of something you know, we used to talk and being

(58:17):
a recovering accountant, you're talking in terms of stuff not
passing the smell test, and when something doesn't pass the
smell test. You know, certain people will tell you it's
a conspiracy theory, when in fact it is Actually you're
the one that's right. So yeah, it's interesting.

Speaker 8 (58:35):
It's a lot of times they don't they it's not
what they tell you, it's not what they say exactly exactly.
They hide everything. It's no different than what came out
here a couple of weeks ago on the January fifth
d NC bomber. And they identified the individual. And I
don't want to save the name or anything like that,

(58:56):
but I mean they've rubbled some feathers. You know, the
security detail for Kamala Harris was involved, the Capitol Police
was involved, and they're scared to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Oh yeah, absolutely. And the thing that irritates me the
most about a lot of these things in terms of
what we're not hearing, the things that you know are
not said, is that they treat us like we're children
for crying out loud. We are adults. Does anybody believe
that we still do we know exactly what happened with JFK,

(59:31):
with RFK, Martin Luther King Junior? Are we ever going
to know anything completely about what happened in Butler Pennsylvania.
What happened with Charlie Kirk. Are we going to know ever? Well,
we're starting to see a lot of the details as
far as the pandemic is concerned, a lot of the
lies and the stuff that we're done during that. But

(59:53):
you know the problem with conspiracy theories in the past
is I always fought the temptation to go down that path, Bob,
because when you look at the stuff and you say,
gee whiz, the only way two people can keep a
secret if if one of them's dead, and the conspiracies
would have to be so far reaching and so many
people involved that there'd be no way that they could

(01:00:14):
keep it quiet. But seeing what we did in the
first Trump administration, the number of rats that came out
of the woodwork to try to derail that. Yeah, there
are a lot of people out there that are in
these conspiracies.

Speaker 8 (01:00:30):
Well, I appreciate what you do, my friend. You you're
the voice of the common man. Yeah, it's like across
from the oak table with the kitchen. You know what
I'm saying, that's always, that's always, that's what I like
to hear, just the common man.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
What are your plans for Thanksgiving?

Speaker 8 (01:00:47):
My brother they're all great.

Speaker 7 (01:00:49):
No good for River.

Speaker 8 (01:00:50):
I've had Marin Nate and I'm gonna blow torch it
in the morning to sear it in. Real good and
just smoking out on the grill.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Excellent. Well, be safe, okay, take care of you. I
appreciate it, alrighty, take care, thank you. It just I
love talking to him. I always look forward to talking
him when I fill in. Let's go to the phones
again and let's talk to Mic real quick, Mike fifty
five K. See how are you this morning?

Speaker 9 (01:01:14):
Thank Kevin.

Speaker 8 (01:01:15):
A couple of things actually you're talking about the price
is not coming downs. Like one thing, people understand. We
need to figure out how to get diesel prices down
if you want good prices to.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Come down, Yeah, exactly. And one of the problems with it,
they're down like yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:01:29):
Gas prices, but diesel prices where they've been for the
last two or three years.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
As a matter of fact, Gall As a matter of fact,
diesel prices, uh, because I do this on a daily basis.
Look at you know what they were last week, the
month before, and then last year and even going back
as far as twenty twenty. And if you look at
the prices this time this year, they are about twenty
five cents higher than they were this time last year,
whereas gas prices themselves are down somewhere between two three

(01:01:58):
four cents a gallon from what they were last year. Now,
what we're seeing is that the problem with diesel is
that there's a heavy grade of crude that is necessary
for that, and here in the United States, Brent crude
is more of a light crude that we process from
our oil wells. And you know, the thing I've not
been able to figure out over the years is why

(01:02:20):
don't we have the crude oil and the refineries geared
to what we produce. We have to import a lot
of heavy crude from Russia, Venezuela and some of these
other countries in order to get that in, and then
with the additives that have to be done as far
as diesel are concerned, especially with the war in Ukraine

(01:02:41):
and the energy prices there Venezuela, with the nonsense going
on down there, some of these oil embargoes or some
of these things that are going on that has disrupted
that diesel area significantly. So there is a problem as
far as that's concerned. But again, overall, yeah, you're right,

(01:03:01):
trying to get inflation down, especially when those oil prices, well,
the oil prices themselves are down. Uh, but the processing
of particular diesel grades is what's up. And so that
that is a problem that has to be dealt with.
Are you are you are you a truck driver?

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
No?

Speaker 10 (01:03:19):
I just notice that.

Speaker 8 (01:03:21):
I mean gas prices are coming down, but diesel stays
right where it stays it.

Speaker 9 (01:03:25):
It's like people, people wonder.

Speaker 8 (01:03:27):
Why your favorite there.

Speaker 9 (01:03:29):
You gotta have a trick to get it to the gate.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Exactly exactly. Well, thanks, Oh go ahead.

Speaker 7 (01:03:36):
He says that about the pandemic.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:03:39):
Scary thing is doctor Amy's running for governor.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Yeah, isn't that that's.

Speaker 10 (01:03:44):
Kind of scary.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
I hope some of her previous comments come out to
haunt her when the campaign gets up and running, that's
for sure. Well, Mike, I have a very safe Thanksgimming.
You got a big plans for tomorrow. Oh okay, Well thanks.
Mike certainly appreciates phone call. Coming up next. We'll be
talking with Matt after the break. Phone number seven four

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nine uh five one three seven four nine fifty five
hundred one eight hundred eight two three talk one eight
hundred eight two three eight two, five five pound, five
point fifty AT and T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in
for Brian Thomas, fifty five KR. See the talk station

(01:04:32):
coming up on six fifty two in the morning. Kevin
Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KR, See the
talk station. No, we won't get fooled again by any
of these cooples, well what they call us when we
talk about what they say or conspiracy theories. We're not
going to get fooled again because we know the facts,
and we're going to talk to facts, and of course

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we're going to have an opinion or two along the way.
Phone numbers five one, three, seven, four nine fifty, five
hundred one, eight hundred eight two three talk one eight
three eight two, five five pound, fifty AT and T
wireless phone To the phones we go. Matt is on
the line. Matt fifty five, Carose, Welcome to the program,
Thanks for being there.

Speaker 6 (01:05:11):
Yeah, good morning, Kevin. One way you can beat inflations
go to the different retailers websites every week, find out
what's on sale and stock up what's on sale. One
retailer had turkey for fifty nine cents pound. That's incredible.
Another retailer had it for forty nine cents pound. You
can't beat that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
I saw one of I saw one my friend of
thirty nine cents a pound.

Speaker 6 (01:05:37):
Excellent. Great, go go there, stock up, buy those things.
And also if they have loyalty, sign up with the
loyalty because you'll get gas y retail cell gas. I
have been getting a dollar off a gallon for the
last five years on all my gas. I buy gas

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once a month and I get of gas cans lined up.
I buy the Maxrommount of games. It's a ball off
a gallon. That's thirty three off of a three.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Dollars gallon exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:06:09):
So you got to play the game. You gotta follow
the rules. That's how you beat the inflation.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Matt, are we related because you are? You are speaking mine.
You know we benefit from the area here in the
Tri state area. I mean we've got Kroger, we got Meyer,
We've got Aldie, We've got Fresh Time. Who am I
missing Remkey? Who else? Public? Public soon? And there is competition,

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and you're right. You've got to go to the individual websites,
download their digital coupons and you can look at their
the circulars on a weekly basis. And if you notice,
if you get used to it, you'll notice that it
seems like certain it's like a three week cycle. If
you see coffee, I drink Folger's Blacks. I love the coffee.

(01:07:02):
About every three weeks they reduce that down. Normally it's
like sixteen ninety nine a can. It'll go down to
nine to ninety nine a can. So you stock up
Milt the same way you and the way I do
it is that if I'm going, if I know I'm
going to be in a certain area nor south east
west where either Kroger Meyer or whoever is, if they

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have the cheapest price on something, I'll make it a
point to stop by there on my way home or
going to and from an appointment or something like that.
And like I said, like you said, you go around,
you shop for the bargains. Now I brag about the
fact here that you know on the loyalty card, I'll
just mention Kroger on the fact that their plus card. Now,

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in the past, what I've tried to do. We are
a family to my wife and I, but the amount
of food I eat, we're a family of three, and
I always wanted to make sure that we were saving
about maybe one hundred dollars a month in terms of groceries.
We are closing in this month. By the end of
the month, we'll probably have saved almost two thousand dollars

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in terms of our groceries just for this year. So
that's well above that one hundred dollars per month. And
it's and it's like you said, you've got to pay attention.
You just don't go in and grab something. You don't grab,
you know, things off the eye level, the better price
per ounce or whatever is down on the lower shelf
or the upper shelf for something along those lines. You
got to be grocery knowledgeable. And you're absolutely right that

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dollar off a gallon really comes in handy, Matt, thank
you so much. You have a very safe and happy Thanksgiving.
My friend Phone numbers five one, three, seven, four nine
fifty five one, eight hundred eight two three talk one
eight hundred two three eight two five five pound, five
point fifty AT and T wireless phone coming up. We've
got Guy Harper, a fellow that I met back in

(01:08:54):
August during that rally or that town hall meeting at
Jim and Jacks back in August. I'm Kevin Gordon in
for Brian Thomas fifty five KRC The Talk Station.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Kevin Golden filling in for Brian Thomas on fifty five
KOs the Talk Station.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Seven oh six in the morning. If you listen, if
you looked at my Facebook page overnight, you'll know that
I post who my guests are going to be. And
my next guest, Guy Harper, I want to welcome him
to the program. I met Guy back in August during
that town hall meeting that Vivek Ramaswami and Corey Bowman

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well actually had in the Jim and Jacks out there
after the riot basically the beatdown of those people the
Cincinnati cops, you know, the whole beat down there. Well,
a woman got knocked out and so on, and this
was supposed to be a town hall meeting to kind
of clear the air and so on. And I met

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Guy Harper, their Guy Harper, owner of Patriot Shop. Welcome
to the program, Guy, Thanks for spending time.

Speaker 7 (01:10:13):
With us, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
The reason I wanted to have you on, and we
talked about that night, is that you had some very
interesting comments to say about what was going on. And
you own this company called Patriots, So first of all,
tell us about Patriot Shop and what you do and
a little bit about your background.

Speaker 11 (01:10:36):
All right, Well, Patriots Shop is our e commerce website.

Speaker 7 (01:10:40):
We sell.

Speaker 11 (01:10:43):
Trump apparel, conservative apparel, Second Amendment apparel, stuff like that
on there, and we've had Patriots Shops started back in
twenty nineteen. I'm a traveling vendor, so I do all
the Trump rallies when he has them all over the country.
I've been doing this since twenty twenty eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
And you were at this, well, they it was a
town hall meeting, and the way they set this up, okay,
and the reporter talking about the crowd filled mostly with Republicans,
a few Democrats, which meant that there were few Klansmen
there because no Democrats were there. Supporters of GP coitorial
candidate Reffect Ramaswami. Ramaswami and former city council member Christopher

(01:11:30):
Smitherman hosted the town hall event and it started off
with a couple of comments, and then you had a
comment that you talked about in terms of the guy
that started talking about four hundred years of the inequity
and so on, and you had some very poignant things

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to say about the Democratic Party. You care to mention
those again.

Speaker 11 (01:11:57):
Yeah, well, I was responding to this gentleman that he
was the first person that got up and spoke, and
he was a black man.

Speaker 7 (01:12:05):
He was complaining about the.

Speaker 11 (01:12:08):
Uh inequities and of black Americans, and they spoke a
little bit about slavery, and I just I just simply
responded to him. I told him the history of the
Democratic Party that they were, they started the klu Klux Klan,
they were the majority slave owners of blacks in America.

Speaker 7 (01:12:28):
They were Jim Crow.

Speaker 11 (01:12:29):
So if you want to if you want to stand
up here and complain about the inequities of blacks, you
should uh point your finger at the Democratic Party. So
I was just pointing that out because a lot of
people don't even know that the Democratic Party started the
klu Klux Klan and they they enact Jim Jim Crow
laws in the South, and that they were the primary

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slave owners. So anytime someone anytime someone says that, I
want to tell him the history of the Democratic Party
and let them know that that's where that came from.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Yeah, exactly. And that is the thing that struck me
because I have been saying that for a number of years,
twenty years now, or better that pointing out what the
Democratic Party has done as far as blacks are concerned,
and quite honestly, what they're doing as far as illegal
immigrants right now. It's funny to me when you hear
about people saying, well, we've got to stand up for

(01:13:23):
these immigrant rights and so on, and then they followed
up with, well, who's gonna cut my lawn, who's going
to pick our crops, who's going to do this out
or the other thing. So what they're the Democrats are
trying to do is to basically create a new slave
class because apparently, well not apparently the first one didn't

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work out for him, and we rebelled against that and
fought a civil war over that, and yet they are
still trying to have an underclass that they can basically
keep their foot on the back of their necks. And
so anyway, I found that very and surprise surprise, because
being traveling and going around, we communicated and I sent

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you the article of how that story was reported, and surprise, surprise,
your comments weren't even mentioned.

Speaker 11 (01:14:14):
Surprise, Yeah, well it I did read that article that
you sent me, and that anytime you get a person
that's a liberal or leans left. They'll they'll just deflect
or deny it. That part of uh, that part of
history in our country. They never want to talk and

(01:14:38):
they just deflect and deny. Even my parents are Democrats
and they don't, uh, they don't ever want to talk
about it.

Speaker 7 (01:14:46):
It leads to like tension in our families.

Speaker 11 (01:14:50):
So they will always deflect and deny that part of
American history.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
It's it's amazing how when you speak the truth, when
you talk about facts, how people are offended by that.
And that creates a problem. And I think mainly because
one of the problems is is that you now have
changed something that they've believed their entire lives. Going back

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to when the Berlin Wall fell and the USSR collapsed,
there were people who were in their seventies that had
known nothing else but the USSR. So the USSR telling
them that the reason their economy was failing or the
crops didn't come in, it was the US doing something
with the weather and creating that, or there was always
some excuse while there was crop failure. And what it

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was was that communism is a failed system and will
never work. And so all of a sudden, the Iron
Curtain fell and these people were like, I've been lied
to for seven years, seventy years, what do I do?
And I think as you talk about with family members
and stuff, they've had this belief system for so long.

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When you try to shatter that, that shatters basically their
entire existence.

Speaker 7 (01:16:05):
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 11 (01:16:06):
It's it's it's it's what's known as cognitive dissonance.

Speaker 7 (01:16:10):
Yes, that that is what that is.

Speaker 11 (01:16:14):
What happens to people's mind when they can't when their
believe when their beliefs don't match up with with what
they what they think and know.

Speaker 7 (01:16:26):
So it's called cognitive dissonance.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Yeah. Absolutely. Now one of the things you mentioned is
that in your business you travel around so well, First
of all, I guess when you're traveling around, what are
you hearing on the ground as far as individual people?

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Where you know, because obviously you know at the rallies
you're going to see like minded people. But as you're traveling,
you're going to run into all kinds of different people, uh,
at rest areas, at a different you know, where you're
staying or whatever. What are you seeing as far as
the people out there and the grassroots support or non support,

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what's going on?

Speaker 7 (01:17:09):
Well? It's when I first hearded doing this.

Speaker 11 (01:17:12):
Back in twenty eighteen, Uh, there was a lot of
pushback against Trump and and MAGA, the MAGA movement and
the Republican Party. There's a lot of pushback. People, you know,
they would say, they would call me all. I've been
called every name in the book. I've been called the

(01:17:34):
white supremacists. I've been called the N word. But this
is back then, twenty eighteen, twenty twenty. But now now
the you know, a ship has occurred because you know
Trump uh won twenty sixteen. He did win twenty twenty,
but it was stolen. But and he won twenty twenty four.
So now there's not there's much less pushback. There's much

(01:17:59):
more acceptance of Trump and his agenda now. But back
then there was pushback. But it's less pushback now. But
I've been called every name in the book out there.
I've had chewing tobacco spit tossed at me, So I
mean it nothing violent. I've had I've had a couple

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Karen's come up and snatch T shirts off the table
at a lady in New York City, snatched a Trump
Trump flag and ran down the block.

Speaker 7 (01:18:32):
But I chased her and got it back.

Speaker 11 (01:18:34):
But but it was it was early pushback and then
it's it's it's it's has subsided.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Now, oh, that's very interesting. I'm kind of surprised by that.
I would have thought that the terminology would have come
to you're a fascist, that you're a Hitler or something,
a Hitler supporter or something along those lines. We need
to pick this up. We got to take a quick
break here. Can you hang with us for another segment? Sure, okay,
appreciate it. My guest is Guy Harper, owner Patriot Shop,

(01:19:02):
a guy that I met people who may not remember this,
but back at that town hall meeting back in August.
I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty five KRC,
the Talk Station seven twenty in the morning. Kevin Gordon
in for Brian Thomas fifty five KRC, the Talk Station.

(01:19:25):
My guest is Guy Harper. He is owner of Patriot Shop,
and he sells Trump merchandise and travels around the country
to various Trump rallies in certain events. And so I
met him at the town hall meeting that was held
by Christopher Smitherman and Vivek Ramaswami. Shortly after two weeks

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after that violent street fight or actually near riot, actually
in Cincinnati, and there was a town hall meeting set
up to discuss this and to try to find some
sort of a pathway to healing, or to try to
get sides together, or to try to find out ways
of combating this. And I met Guy at this event

(01:20:09):
and again had some very poignant things to say and
was not even quoted in the following story. And people
may say, Kevin, you're relitigating something that happened several months ago.
But this is key because what we're getting from the
spoon fed regurgitators in the mainstream media. And this needs
to be a lesson that anybody that's ever been interviewed

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by somebody from the press, they are always shocked by
what the story is written and the comments that they made,
because they only take pieces of that. And in some cases,
it's not the news that we get, it's the news
that's left out. And that's why I wanted to have
Guy Harper on here and again because Guy, you go
around to these different places, you travel around the country,

(01:20:53):
and so you kind of have your finger on the
pulse better than a lot of people as far as
what's going on out there. So again, thank you for
being with us this morning.

Speaker 7 (01:21:02):
Thank you, sir for having me happy to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Now, I guess, Wenna quickly, what what got you into
this in the first place, or what what what made
you decide to do this?

Speaker 7 (01:21:13):
Well?

Speaker 11 (01:21:14):
I learned the the apparel business of screen printing business
as a side hustle when I when I was in college.
Actually we started at Ohio State football game, selling T
shirts there and then I I went back to school,
got married, had a family, and my ex wife left
me and I was working as a as an accountant

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and in the Richmond, Virginia area.

Speaker 12 (01:21:39):
And.

Speaker 11 (01:21:41):
After she left me, I you know, it was a
very hectic time for me. Uh So, I I just
I just was not I didn't want to do accounting
work anymore.

Speaker 7 (01:21:51):
So I called my friend.

Speaker 11 (01:21:52):
Who who kept He started with us back in college,
but he he kept at it for like and he
kept doing it, so he was very experiencing successful for
the last thirty years.

Speaker 7 (01:22:01):
I called him and he told me to meet him
in d C. And we did.

Speaker 11 (01:22:06):
The that year, the Washington Capitalist won the NHL Stanley Cup.

Speaker 7 (01:22:11):
So he told me to meet him there and I did.

Speaker 11 (01:22:13):
The I worked the Stanley Cup pray for him, and
then after that he him and I worked out a
consignment deal for his truck merch I was working for
him under him for a year, and after that year
I did so well I bought him out of all
of his Trump merchandise, and I've been going.

Speaker 7 (01:22:32):
I started my own company after that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
That is a fantastic story. And even more, he would
hire her on the same way. Like I am a
recovering accountant myself, having spent thirty years in the accounting business.
Did you grow up in Ohio? You mentioned Ohio state
that you went to.

Speaker 11 (01:22:51):
The Yeah, I grew up in Shaker Heights, Ohio, suburb
of Cleveland, Eastside suburb of Cleveland, Ohio.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
And a recovering accountant yourself. That's a yes, great, but
I get and again, you know, traveling around, are you
seeing still the momentum, are you still seeing the grassroots
movement support and kind of pushing out the negativity from

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as I call them, the spoon fed regurgitators, And are
you still you know, enthusiastic about what you're seeing as
far as the country is concerned.

Speaker 7 (01:23:30):
Well, well, you know, people or people know that well,
right back up.

Speaker 11 (01:23:36):
A lot of people on the left don't know that
they're being spoon fed by the mainstream media.

Speaker 7 (01:23:41):
Most people on the right do. So a lot of
people on the left still don't know most most people
on the right do.

Speaker 11 (01:23:49):
But the enthusiasm has uh, it's it's tapered off. Is
tapered off with the especially with the Trump Marjorie Taylor
Green Thomas see Epstein files saga that has split the.

Speaker 7 (01:24:06):
MAGA base and splintered the Mega base.

Speaker 11 (01:24:08):
People people, a lot of people you know, are just
very They're just arguing about it.

Speaker 7 (01:24:16):
That's what I see on social media. And it's tapered off.

Speaker 11 (01:24:20):
Although after the Charlie Kirk assassination, we sold a lot
of the Freedom the Freedom shirts and Freedom hoodies and
hats and stuff like that. And so I'm traveling around
during Turning Point events as well. So the vek Ramaswami
will be at the University of Cincinnati on December first
at a Turning Point action event on December first at

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University of Cincinnati. I will be there then. I think
the next one is December third at Miami. I believe
it's Miami, Miami of Ohio, but I have to double
check that. So EV's gonna be December first, University of
Cincinnati December third, and Miami. It's a Turning Point action event,
So I'll be at both of those events.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Exactly. Fantastic, and I would say that if anybody's going
to that event, make it a point to go to
that event so you can meet Guy Harper, because he
is a great guy and I love what you're doing
as far as going around and traveling around and selling
this Trump merchandise. By the way, for people, if they
want to get in contact with you or your company,

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they can go.

Speaker 11 (01:25:23):
To www dot Patriot Shop dot today.

Speaker 7 (01:25:30):
That's Patriot Shop dot today. That's our website.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Yes, it's not the p it is Patriot Shop again
today dot today. Okay, any phone number you want to
give out or or just having them our website.

Speaker 11 (01:25:46):
Yeah, they could just go to the website, okay, and
they could if they want to send me a message,
they can message me on the website.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
Well, guy, all the best to you. I hope nothing
but success for you. Be safe out there on the road,
you know, again, traveling around it's always you know, sometimes
can be very difficult and especially in certain areas. Just
travel safe, and be safe. I appreciate your time. I
appreciate you being with us this morning. And we've got

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any big, big plans for Thanksgiving or.

Speaker 7 (01:26:16):
Oh yeah, I'm headed to DC to meet my family there.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Very good again, travel safe, my friend, and hopefully it
can catch you on the first or the third, depending
upon which rally I can make it to again, Guy Harper,
owner Patriot Shop. I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas,
fifty five KRC, the Talk station seven thirty one in

(01:26:51):
the morning, Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five
kr SE the Talk Stations, A littlettle roadhouse blues there
for the traveling guy Harper out there on the highways
with his Trump merch and just a very interesting guy,
a very fascinating guy. I was great meeting him months ago,
and I been wanting to have him on ever since.
We talked to the phones we go by the way

(01:27:12):
seven five one three, seven eight two three talk pound
five fifty AT and T wireless phone. Let's go to
the phone soon. Do we want to go up first here? Danny,
Let's go with Brian. Brian. I think Brian was on
the It was at the top of the hour and
called back, I certainly appreciate it, Brian. How are you

(01:27:34):
this morning? Thanks for calling.

Speaker 10 (01:27:35):
I'm doing well.

Speaker 8 (01:27:37):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
I am doing great, fantastic behind the microphone. It doesn't
get any better than that for me.

Speaker 10 (01:27:45):
Okay, Well, I remember listening to you, oh gosh, back
during the first Trump uh run, and you seem really
jazzed about the Mike Pence. In retrospect, are you a
bit disappointed?

Speaker 7 (01:27:56):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Absolutely? Absolutely. Not only am I disappointed with Mike Pence
the way he turned out, but I'm also disappointed with
Mike Congressman in Northern Kentucky Thomas Massey. Now, Mike Pence
I met when I was I was doing a radio
show in Richmond, Indiana at the time, and he was
the congressman at the time, and I got to meet him,
and I really thought the stuff that he was talking about,

(01:28:19):
the conservative stuff that he was talking about, I thought
was absolutely fantastic. When he was chosen as a VP,
I thought, man, this is this is great. Somewhere along
the line, I don't know what happened. I don't know,
you know, he left Congress, he became the governor of Indiana,
and then you know, got on the Trump ticket and
was at least originally very enthusiastic. I don't know what

(01:28:42):
happened to him. I've never really heard what he's talked about,
but him going off the rails in the twenty twenty election,
I thought was kind of how should I say, disingenuous,
not recognizing what actually happened, and the fact that he
has been so outspoken against Trump since then has been

(01:29:05):
a very big disappointment to me. And I can't believe
that it's the same guy that I knew back in
two thousand and three when I first met him. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:29:15):
Interesting, what about the Massy I don't you know, you
seem to interact with these people more than I do.
So what is it? I mean, what is it that
that kind of rubbs your wrong way with Massy?

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
Well, well, I just you know, the one thing about me, Brian,
is that nobody ever walks away from a conversation with
me and says, gee, I don't know how he feels
about this subject. I had Thomas Massey and I have
I will go into this in a little while. Because
of my street credit. I got some serious street cred

(01:29:46):
with Thomas Massey, but in a nutshell, been a big
supporter of his, had been a big supporter of his.
I had him on the program the Wednesday before that
January sixth confirmation of the electoral results. He had been
on the He had been wavering, he had made commitment
one way or the other. I asked him, what are
you thinking of doing as far as this confirmation? Are

(01:30:08):
you going to object to it? And he goes, I'm
kind of on the fence. I don't know which way
I'm going to go, but I think I'm going to
vote to confirm. And I said why. I said, because basically,
what you're doing is you're discounting and you're tossing out
the votes of all the people from Kentucky. You are
basically disenfranchising this. And he goes, hey, no, your votes,
our votes are going to be counted because it's part

(01:30:29):
of the electoral process. And I pointed out to him,
and you know, he's a constitutionalist. He says that he
follows the Constitution. According to the Constitution, the results or
the election in a state is supposed to be done
and regulated by the state legislature. In Pennsylvania, it was
regulated and formulated by judges, so it was unconstitutional election

(01:30:53):
that year and those votes should have been challenged at
least to pres present a challenge. We argued back and forth.
He said, I don't think that you know that this
is a process, aware that this should be stopped, or
something along those lines. And I said, I said, Thomas,
I cannot believe that our founding fathers, who came up

(01:31:14):
with this constitution, with the two you know, with House
in the Senate, you know, the three branches of government,
the legislature, the executive, and the judiciary, would come up
with something and say, okay, when it comes to confirm
these electors that it's just a rubber stamp. Well, if
it's that, then why have the hearing, why have the

(01:31:37):
vote in the Congress in the first place. It's an
opportunity to object to this, he said. At that time,
you gave me a lot to think about, and I
still haven't made my decision. That Sunday he came out
with a letter saying that he was going to vote
to confirm. He signed this letter with five other people,
one who had just been sworn in that night, and

(01:31:58):
four other no name congres Risman, just to make a
point to be contrary, I think, to probably get back
at Trump for Trump trashing him back during the bailout
bill that was before Congress months ago. But they did
campaign together. They shared webs or you know, they shared
endorsements and so on. I don't know why he turned

(01:32:20):
on Trump that day and why they didn't at least
postpone or at least hold up some roadblocks and put
the spotlight on what happened in these various states. I
think he quite honestly, I think he betrayed the people
of Kentucky by just rubber stamping this confirmation process. So
that's where my rub with Thomas Massey has come. Plus

(01:32:43):
there's and I've gone a little bit over time up
against a break here, but some of the other votes
that he's taken in Congress and now kind of smack
very close to being very anti Semitic, and that's an
area that I really have a problem with in terms
of people in Congress. Again, that's that's my take on it.

Speaker 10 (01:33:03):
All right, Thank you very much, all right, bro, Thanks
you all right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
Take care. Phone numbers five one, three, seven, four nine fifty,
five hundred one, eight hundred eight two three talk one
eight hundred eight two three A two five five pound,
five fifty at and T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in
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(01:33:31):
seven forty two in the morning. Kevin Gordon in for
Brian Thomas, fifty five KR. See the talk station. Phone
numbers five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty, five, hundred one,
eight hundred eight two three talk one eight hundred eight
two three eight two five five and pound five point
fifty on that AT and T phone. Let's go back
to the phones and speak with Steve. Steve, Happy, Thanksgiving, Eve,

(01:33:53):
welcome to the program. Thanks for calling banks.

Speaker 7 (01:33:56):
Thanks same same to you.

Speaker 12 (01:33:58):
I feel like you're my brother from another mother, and you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
Know there's a lot of that going on these days. Steve,
let me tell you you okay, exactly, okay.

Speaker 9 (01:34:09):
Anyway, we are.

Speaker 12 (01:34:11):
We are very aligned on a lot of things. But
I wanted to see have you heard of ibu Gang.
It's spelled ib o.

Speaker 9 (01:34:19):
G A I n E.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
I think I've heard No, I know. I got to
say honestly, no, I've heard it, but I don't know
anything about it.

Speaker 12 (01:34:31):
The fact that people don't know about it, I find
to be quite disturbing.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Oh oh, I'm disturbing you this morning.

Speaker 12 (01:34:41):
Yeah, no, no, no, it's not very except for people
I've talked to.

Speaker 10 (01:34:48):
And there are two.

Speaker 12 (01:34:51):
Premiere podcast you've heard of Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan twenty
two fifty one was about a year ago, and that
was an awesome podcast. It's like three hours long, so
it's not a it's not a quick listen, but it's
it'll draw you in.

Speaker 7 (01:35:08):
And then also THEO Vaughn.

Speaker 12 (01:35:10):
Which prior to Trump I never heard of Theos. He
has an episode five ninety six. Now Theo's is like
two hours long. In the last section of that, the
last thirty forty minutes, it's pretty damning for our fascist
In Frankfurt, Andy fired a gentleman by the name of

(01:35:31):
Brian Hubbard who was the executive death director of the
American IBU Gang and Initiatives. I BEI Gang is a
Schedule one drug. It's not an arcotic, it's not a psychedelic.

Speaker 9 (01:35:45):
However, if you give it.

Speaker 12 (01:35:47):
And you don't replace magnesium, you can go into serious
fatal arrhythmias torsades to the point however, once they learned how
to handle that, if you have a if you replace
magnies and you have a crash cart at hand, it
can safely be administered.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
Well, that seems to be pretty scary in terms of
if you have to have something on hand when you're
taking a particular drug. What is this drug supposed to do?

Speaker 9 (01:36:16):
Okay, it is.

Speaker 12 (01:36:17):
It is is God's medicine. It comes from Western Africa.
It has been shown to treat PTSD, serious drug addictions,
things like even SSRIs and other things, a lot of
things that are fatal if not treat it. I worked

(01:36:39):
thirty seven years at Saint Luke's Saint Elizabeth, and I
watched how many lives destroyed by drug addiction, alcohol addiction,
all these other things. It can if it can reverse
those things. I mean with your connections, I don't know
if you're I hope you're back on BEFO before the

(01:37:01):
new year again. If you can reach out to Marcus Latrell.
Have you ever heard of him?

Speaker 4 (01:37:05):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
Yes, absolutely, American sniper.

Speaker 12 (01:37:09):
He's a Navy Seal, American hero. He is part of
the Americans for Ibucuine initiative, which is brand new.

Speaker 7 (01:37:16):
Their website.

Speaker 12 (01:37:17):
Last time I looked at it was brand new and
it didn't have a whole lot on there. I didn't
have a link ahead. If you go to Americans for Ibucane.
It'll bring you to a link that will take you
right to the Joe Rogan episode.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
All right, well, Steve, I will dig into this and
I will get more knowledgeable about this, and next time
I'm on maybe we can chat again.

Speaker 12 (01:37:40):
Hopefully, So hopefully, hopefully I'll get to talk to you again.
And actually i'd like to buy you and Tara lunch
if you'd be willing. I've never shook your hand before.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
I appreciate that. Well, we can maybe contact through Facebook
or some other connections and so on along those lines.
But anyway, appreciate the phone call. Hope you have a
very good Thanksgiving. Phone numbers five months, seven hundred eight
two three Talk one eight hundred two three eight two
five five pound, five point fifty AT and T wireless phone.
Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KRC, The

(01:38:11):
Talk State, seven fifty one in the morning. Kevin Gordon
in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KRC, The Talk Station.

(01:38:31):
That's one of my favorite songs, Danny. I appreciate that.
Of course we can't play the can't play the chorus
of that. We had to hit the dump button on
that anyway, we I'm gonna I want to talk to
you real quickly here on the phone. Bob Wederer, great friend.
UH known him for a couple of years, several years

(01:38:52):
as a matter of fact, and uh, the person who
does the Wish Tree Foundation, Bob, Welcome to the program, morning, Kevin.

Speaker 8 (01:39:02):
How are you very good?

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
How are you good?

Speaker 4 (01:39:06):
Good?

Speaker 9 (01:39:07):
Well, we're in the season. All the tree should be
up hopefully. Okay, some may still meet a tree they
can call.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
When did you When did you start putting those up?

Speaker 9 (01:39:19):
Well? Some people started first November, okay, but a lot
of them are waiting until after Thanksgiving the tradition.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
Okay. So for people that may not be familiar with us,
which there may be, tell us about the program.

Speaker 9 (01:39:33):
Well, the programs in this forty first year, and it
started at Beachmont Mall with one tree for alder Crests
and now it's grown to little over three hundred trees
and it's all schools. The orphan eage is and there's nursing.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
Homes excellent, excellent, And the Wish Tree is the trees
that are there. There is what on the tree.

Speaker 9 (01:40:05):
There's tags, uh huh. And for thirty years, Jim Scott
was the spokesperson. Then Steg Dennison came along when Jim retired,
and then Brian came along about five six years ago.
So that's how it runs. And basically, you pull a
tag off the tree, go buy a gift, either delivered

(01:40:28):
by Amazon or one of those are you send it
are you can bring it back to the location you
got it and we'll pick it up and make sure
it gets delivered.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
I think we have a tree at the go Ahead.

Speaker 9 (01:40:42):
The Purple People Bridge has a tree. Oh fantastic, and
I've already refilled it last Sunday. Last Saturday we put
another one hundred and fifty ornaments because it was that
low already.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
Now curious, this just popped in my head of the
tags that are on there, do you track them in
terms of okay, they're gone from the tree and we
got a gift back from that, or do you know?

Speaker 9 (01:41:09):
You just I don't know anymore. It used to be
when we used to pick up everything, we could track everything,
but now it's there's so many people, there's so many
people who use Amazon and use all those delivery services
UPS's and all. We can't track any Okay, I don't
want to tell how much they have.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
Okay, I don't I don't want to put ideas into
miscreants minds, but it would seem to me that some
people could actually go and just grab those things and
do nothing with the tags. Hopefully the people that are
taking the tags are actually buying a gift and participating
in the program.

Speaker 9 (01:41:49):
So well, we do get some that call me in
January February says I just found them on my dining
room table. They go buy it. You know, there's morning Christmas.
So they go buy the gift and they call us
and we go pick it up because you know, some
of the stuff turns out they have to use for
the children's are the senior's birthday, or they're having a

(01:42:11):
bad day, or they do something nice, so they do
use some of the gifts that way.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
Oh, very good, very good. All right, well, Bob, we're
up against clock here. I certainly appreciate calling in and
uh all the best. Oh, if people want to be
in contact or.

Speaker 9 (01:42:29):
The website, the website the wish tree dot com. But
they can also call the hotline five one three eight
five two five.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
Okay, once again, that hotline.

Speaker 9 (01:42:45):
Is five one three eight five two one eight nine five.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Eight nine five. All right, thank you very much. We'll
be in touch and uh, I'll be talking to you soon, all.

Speaker 9 (01:43:00):
Right, real quick. Yes, spaghetti dinner is December twentieth in
Sanna will be at that. And now it's at the
United Methodist Church on cloth and that's for lighting of
the tower.

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
Okay, the Washington tell you there. All right, yeah, all right, Bob,
thank you so much for calling in. Certainly appreciate it.
Coming up top the hour, I guess since somebody well
call her earlier it kind of stoke this. I want
to talk a little bit about Thomas Massey and some
of the problems I have with his stance on things

(01:43:36):
and kind of give you reasons for that. So coming
up we'll be talking a little bit about that in
the next hour five one three, seven, four nine fifty
five eight hundred eight two three talk one eight hundred
eighty two three eight two five five pound five point
fifty at and T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in for
Brian Thomas fifty five K see the talk station.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
And now Kevin Golden filling in for Brian Thomas on
fifty five KOs the talk station.

Speaker 2 (01:44:08):
Right seven minutes after eight o'clock on this Thanksgiving Eve Day.
Thanks for tuning in. Phone numbers five one, three, seven,
four nine fifty, five hundred one, eight hundred two three
talk one eight hundred eight two three eight two five

(01:44:30):
five pound five point fifty on that AT and T
wireless phone holding through the break. We want to talk
to John here real quick, John fifty five K see
how are you this morning?

Speaker 4 (01:44:41):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:44:41):
How how?

Speaker 4 (01:44:42):
How?

Speaker 2 (01:44:42):
How there you go? Absolutely so?

Speaker 4 (01:44:48):
Yeah. The last time I called, when I hung up,
I heard you say, well, who'd that guy play with?
I was calling about what a third world country reading
roads turned into? And I was fighting music. Anyway. I
played with Joe Duskins. They're Joe Duskins. Uh, Albert Washington's

(01:45:20):
Big d Thompson's I played with their all the all
the major but everybody from Chess Records in Cincinnati, fantastic.
They called me the wheat boy when I first started
playing drums in the black community. In a way, they.

Speaker 5 (01:45:35):
Called me the weak boy because they used to say,
he's not quite white yet, and he's not quite black.

Speaker 4 (01:45:43):
That's our weak boy.

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
And how did you how'd you wind up hooking up
with these folks?

Speaker 4 (01:45:51):
Uh? There was a little club on Reading Road called
the Harmony Club, and it was the greatest hole in
the wall club of all time. Like to report to
the point where but those days are all gone. Let's
ast forward. You can forget those days. There's not They're
not ever coming back, and the politics have destroyed those

(01:46:13):
But the reason why I called in is also I
wanted to uh. On Friday, Brian Thomas was talking about
Somalians and the Somalian invasion and everything. Yes, and I
had a great Somalian invasion when I lived here. Here's
your old legal alien story. It's in my novel Million
Dollar Hands. When I lived in Chicago. So I'm not

(01:46:35):
late for a gig. Just moved to Chicago. I'm on Kadzie. Okay,
so payti. I'm on Kadzie. And they said, don't take
the purple cab, they're always trouble. Well I was running late,
so I jumped in a purple cab. Anyway, Well it's
the Themalian cab driver with music. It's smelled like a
garbage truck. I'm not even kidding. I'm like, you can't

(01:46:56):
even believe this, But so I get to I get
your Kadzy was playing at the El Gatto and I
get at the cat, I get at the El Gatto,
and I just throw the money on the seat because
I'm in a hurry to get out and he's got
music so out and he jumps out like I didn't
pay him. I said, it's on the seat if you
were paying attention. And when I looked up there I
saw a crack pipe on the seat.

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
Oh no, man, this is no joke.

Speaker 4 (01:47:19):
This is a very serious story, and that's what people
need to understand and do when it comes to So
I said, I paid you, it's on the seat, and
he still doesn't believe me, and he's speaking in whatever
language they speak it and the guy grabbed my shirt.
He grabbed me like like he physically grabbed me, and
I punched him and knocked him out cold. Well, of course,

(01:47:43):
there were, of course, there were some due goodie left
wing college kids who saw me punch the guy and
knocked him out after he grabbed me, after he grabbed me,
after he grabbed me and threatened me. And then I
went into the club and the lady says, you better
go hide because when the police come there and arrest you,
and I'm like, arrest me. He attacked me first, it's

(01:48:04):
a clear case cut as self defense. He's like, I
saw it. I didn't believe it. I wanted to believe
in the police and all.

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
Yeah, how long ago was that?

Speaker 4 (01:48:15):
This was like about six years ago? No, no, no
longer than that, like probably over ten. But anyway, I said,
the police came, they did arrest me. But instead of
like just rolling over and everything, I said, you know what,
I want a jury trial. So I went to court.
I got a lawyer. I actually got a public defender.

(01:48:35):
I took a jury trial. And the guy came to
court and because we had to sit there all afternoon
and wait, the cab driver started cussing out the judge
because he didn't think he should be there all day.

Speaker 5 (01:48:51):
Do you see the entitlement that the scum have that
these people think they or he started touching up the
judge and the judge said, miss.

Speaker 4 (01:49:04):
The judge said, I would have done the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:49:07):
Get out of here exactly. So well, is a very
good point. Yeah, we need to we need to make
sure that we vet the people that come into this country.
There shouldn't be this open door policy just flow of
a fly, you know, fly open the doors and let
anybody come in, people need to be vetted, they need

(01:49:28):
to go to a process, and they need to assimilate
into this country. They should not be able to turn
this country into the country that they came from that
they claimed they were free fleeing from as refugees and
seeking asylum in this country. It's not an invasion to
turn this into their country. It's for them to assimilate

(01:49:49):
into ours. And I think that's an extremely important point.
So anyway, I appreciate the phone call I got talking
about this in the previous segment, and I want to
kind of set the stage here before we have to
step out for a quick break. Thomas Massey over the
last couple of years in particular, has been kind of

(01:50:09):
a well, I'll just flat out say it been a
very much disappointment to me as far as where he
stands in what he is doing. Now. I want to
set the stage here, Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:50:21):
I have.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
What I feel is a tremendous amount of street cred
as far as Thomas Massey is concerned. When Thomas Massey
first came on the scene in twenty twelve, we had
a business organization we had formed in northern Kentucky to
fight with some of these tax increases and so on.
And as this business community, our business group, we had

(01:50:43):
at one time one hundred and forty five members, one
of the fastest growing groups in the area. We held
a debate, if you will, because there was a special
election in twenty twelve when Jeff Davis left office. He
resided early, so there was a election to fill out

(01:51:04):
or to finish out his term and then start the
new term. So there were I think two Democrats and
if my memory serves me correct, about five Republicans that
were going for this. We held the debate. It was
the largest debate in attendance, and Thomas Massey was introduced.
Based on what he had to say, a lot of

(01:51:26):
us started supporting him. I supported him in twenty twelve.
I went out in twenty fourteen sixteen. As a matter
of fact, I was the MC for his election night
coverage of the night that Trump got elected. Now I
have posted on Facebook a friend of mine who would
these if you see him out in the county or

(01:51:46):
at least in Campbell County anyway. They're a four and
four foot by eight foot sheet of well chloroplast that
you hang or that you put on posts and go
around the county and hang up. There are these fence
posts that you have to pound in the ground tie
it to that. Over the year, in any one of

(01:52:07):
the campaigns, he and I were responsible for putting up
every Massy sign, every four x eight sign in Campbell
County as well as some in Kenton County and Boone County.
We put up almost more than fifty signs every campaign.
As I said, I hosted his I was the MC

(01:52:27):
for his twenty sixteen election. I coverage and then again
in twenty twenty, and so I have been. I had
been and have been a big supporter of Thomas Massey
for as long as he's been in Congress. But something
I don't know has switched with him. I started having
problems with him, as I described in the one of

(01:52:49):
the previous segments back in twenty twenty, the Wednesday before
the January sixth confirmation of the electoral votes, I had
him on this program. As a matter of fact, I
am the one that introduced Thomas Massey to the fifty
five KRC audience. I had him on this program the

(01:53:11):
first time. I also had ran Paul on this program
or on this morning show the first time so introduced
him both of them to this audience, as well as
Matt Bevan, the eventual governor. So I had Thomas Massey
and introduced him, and so I've been a big supporter
of his. But I had him on that Wednesday before
the January sixth confirmation and I asked him, I said,

(01:53:34):
you've been out there, you've been saying that you're not
sure which way you're going to go as far as
this concern. Where are you leaning? And he says, well,
I'm kind of leaning towards confirmation. And I said, why
is that? Because basically what you'll be doing is disenfranchising
all the voters of Kentucky that voted and had supported

(01:53:54):
Donald Trump. And he said, well, I don't agree with
that because the electors are still going to be counted.
And I said, but they're going to be disenfranchised and
overtaken because Pennsylvania had an illegal election in twenty twenty.
The constitution and Thomas Massey claims to be this constitutionalist,

(01:54:15):
he stands up for the Constitution and so on, but
the election in Pennsylvania was an invalid election in twenty twenty.
The election is supposed to be controlled and the rules
supposed to be established by the state legislature. Well, during COVID,
they were out a judge, a group of judges decided
how that election was going to be conducted. It was illegal.

(01:54:37):
Those votes should have at least been challenged, and instead
of challenging those Thomas Massey, well, when I talked to
him on that Wednesday, we talked about back and forth
and we went back and I'll finish this up coming up,
but kind of set in the stage for what I'm
talking about Thomas Massey here. Phone numbers five one, three, seven, four, nine,
fifty one, eight hundred eighty two three A two, five,

(01:55:00):
five pound, five fifty AT and T wireless phone. Kevin
Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty five KR see the
talk station A twenty three in the morning. Kevin Gordon
in for Brian Thomas fifty five KR see the talk station.

(01:55:22):
Kind of setting the stage here because some of the
things I was we were talking in the previous segment
or last hour, I guess about Thomas Massey and where
I stand on that and been having some issues. Now
I set the stage for how I participated in his campaign,
how number of signs that he that a friend of mine,

(01:55:43):
and I hung for him and put out there because
each one of these signs takes about, oh maybe about
eight ten minutes to do, and then you drive to
another location, bring them out, pound the fence posted into
the ground, wire them up, and then go on from there.
I posted face, I put post pictures on Facebook when
we did these the different locations, and talked about it.

(01:56:04):
I just for a joke, I posted a couple of
times the gloves that I wore out that had the
holes in them, A pair of shoes that going up
and down the sides of these hills in Kentucky and
trying to get the best location on top of the
hill or whatever, blew out a couple of pairs of
shoes along the way. And so you know, I did
have some blood, sweat and tears into his campaign. But

(01:56:25):
as I said January sixth, coming up to that vote
in twenty twenty, the fact that I had him on
this program or on the program at the time, and
we talked about where he stood, and he was talking
about leaning towards confirming that vote, and I said, you know,
from a constitutional standpoint, they are basically disenfranchising if Pennsylvania

(01:56:45):
voters or those electors are confirmed through an illegal election,
then that will basically disenfranchise the people of Kentucky. At
the end of our conversation, going through the entire interview,
he said, you've given me a lot to think about.
That was on a Wednesday, So something happened between Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

(01:57:06):
and then Sunday night. He comes out with this letter
where he says he's going to vote to confirm these electors.
And the people that signed that letter with him, somebody
had just been sworn into Congress that day, and there
were four other people on that list that had only
been in Congress for maybe one term, maybe two terms tops.

(01:57:27):
He was a senior ranking person. If he felt so
strongly about it, if he wanted to stick it to Trump,
he could have voted present on that instead of making
a big fuss about I'm going to vote and I'm
going to confirm these electors. So, in my opinion, when
he says he's standing up for the constitution, in my opinion,
he voided that back in twenty twenty, and then since

(01:57:47):
then there have been several votes where he has basically
voted standing up, as he says, for the constitution, freedom
of speech or whatever, voting with the squad, one of
only seventeen members to vot with the squad on this
BDS movement to where anti Israel, and you can make
the argument that a lot of his votes recently or

(01:58:09):
over the last few years have been anti Semitic. And
then probably the icing on the cake for me has
come with his making these headlines having to do with
the Epstein files. Now I'm not believe me. I am
not defending the not releasing the Epstein files. I mean

(01:58:30):
it was talked about on the campaign trail. I think
they should have been released. I think it should have
been done in a better fashion. But he treated it
as though that Trump was hiding something about his past
or was protecting certain people. I don't know, but you
figure that these Epstein files were in the possession of

(01:58:51):
the Democrats for four years during the Biden administration. If
there was any and they threw the book, they threw
everything they could at Trump to try to destroy him.
If there was a scintilla of any information in that
that could have been adversely pointed towards Trump, they would
have released it. But for Thomas Massey to make the

(01:59:12):
comment about what's he hiding. Oh well, you know he's
now granted. The victims need to have some compensation. The
victims need to be heard and that and whoever falls
by the wayside as a result of these Epstein files
and who's named in that, Yes, they need to face
the consequences. But to blame Trump for this when you

(01:59:33):
had four previous years of no mention whatsoever and no push.
All of a sudden the Democrats are pushing for the
release of the Epstein file, and Thomas Massey joins with them. Sorry, Thomas,
you're on the wrong side of history on this. My friend,
well my former I don't know if you're even a
friend anymore. But anyway, that's my two cents worth. And

(01:59:54):
as I said, you will never walk away from a
conversation with me and say, God gosh, I don't know
where Kevin stands on that particular issue. Phone numbers seven five, one, three,
seven four nine, fifty, five hundred one, eight hundred eight
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Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty five krc DE

(02:00:18):
talk station eight thirty actually coming up on A thirty
four in the morning, Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas
fifty five krs the talk station. Yes time has come
today for local headlines and covering some local headlines for

(02:00:41):
you this morning. Since Any plans to move its daytime
winter shelter, raising concerns for some emergency shelter was previous
at the the over the Rhine Recreation Center. However, the
setting the city has said that that building is still
under is now currently under renovation. They has partnered with
the Saint Francis Sarraf Ministries and announced that the Extreme

(02:01:04):
Weather Center will be located at a Saint Anthony Center
on Republic Street. Activation of the shelter will be decided
by city Manager Cheryl Long when the sustained daily temperatures
are forecast to be below fifteen degrees fahrenheit. So that's
very important for people to know where this shelter will
be located, and the fact that it has been moved

(02:01:26):
for so people that are depending upon that shelter know
where they can go on the when those daytime temperatures
plummet around fifteen degrees. So anyway, phone numbers five, one, three, seven, four, nine,
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eight hundred eighty two three talk one, eight hundred eight
two three eight two, five five pound, five point fifty
AT and T wireless phone. We may be getting an
early Christmas present, according to the News. Scott Bessen, Treasury Secretary,
said on Tuesday he expects Donald Trump to make a
decision on the new Federal Reserve chair by the holidays season,

(02:02:34):
which would be good news. Honestly, I think it would
be good news for the markets. I think it would
be good news for the optimism of people we have
been seeing over the last several up and down roller
coaster in terms of consumer sentiment, and honest to God,
I think the consumer sentiment is is uh well not

(02:02:54):
honest in my opinion, is being being push by the
spoon fed regurgitators in the mainstream media. I can't tell
you the number of times over the last several months
that I've picked up a story regarding the economy and
seen the headline and then go to read the story
and find out that, wait a minute, where did they

(02:03:16):
come up with that headline? It has nothing to do
with what they report. You know, the headline doesn't match
the story. And if you know, then you get to
the bottom of the and sometimes it's the last paragraph
that completely negates the entire story. And one of the
things that I've been saying for several months now is
that when Donald Trump started talking about wanting to fire

(02:03:37):
Jerome Powell and then got the push back from the
press and all this sort of stuff, somebody had floated
the idea. I thought it was a great idea. I
don't know if it was Scott Bessen or somebody, but
this was probably I would say back in maybe as
early as March, that what Trump should do because Jerome

(02:03:58):
Powell's is up in May of next year, and so
what would be interesting is for him to choose who
his successor would be, have him confirmed, and then that
person will be in place. So what you'd basically have
is kind of a duel, not necessarily an actual FED.

(02:04:21):
You'll have the FED Chairman of lyon, Jerry Powell, as
I refer to him, but you would have somebody in
the wings who could be in a position of talking
about what the FED is doing, what they would do
if they were in that position, and basically be a
good critic of what's going or a supporter of what
the Federal Reserve is doing. I think the Federal Reserve

(02:04:43):
is completely wrong as far as what they're doing as
far as interest rates are concerned. And I go back
to the fact that you know, all last year, going
into twenty twenty four, all during the campaign, all we
heard from Jerome Powell is we gotta tame inflation. We
gotta get inflation down. Inflation needs to be down around
two percent. And then all of a sudden in August,

(02:05:05):
even though the job's report was reported in January where
it said that the BLS, the Bureau of Labor Statistics,
had overestimated the number of jobs created in the previous
year by something in the neighborhood. I think the number
was eight hundred and eighteen thousand jobs or something along

(02:05:25):
those lines, and that number was originally reported in January,
but the final number and all that sort of stuff,
and the final report didn't come out till August. And
in August that report came out, it seemed like everybody
was all of a sudden surprised that this was done.
And that so the previous year that every time they said, well,

(02:05:46):
X number of jobs were created, X number of jobs
were created. Look, we're setting records as far as new
jobs created, when in fact they were off by somewhere
between three quarters and a well around eight hundred thousand
jobs that they had over reported. So that was a
black guy. And then Jerome Powison, well, the job market

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must be a weakening and our dual mandate was to
reduce inflation and to make sure that the job market
is strong. Well, they cut interest rates six weeks in
the middle of September of a month and a half
before the election half a percentage point in my opinion,
a political move to try to get Kamala Harris elected.

(02:06:32):
And he claims that they're independent, they're not doing any
of this sort of stuff. And then the following week,
right after that interest rate cut came about, all of
a sudden, they were talking about well, the job market
is actually relatively strong and it is showing a sustained
growth all this sort of stuff, So what was the
point of lowering the interest rate? And from that point on,

(02:06:52):
they've been talking about, oh, we've got a good inflation
rate down, inflation rate down. Yet when you look at
some of these inflation numbers are right around what they've
been talking about historically high historically in the range of
between two and a half percentage points to three percent.
And for them to insist that, well, we're not going
to do anything with interest rates until it gets down

(02:07:14):
below gets around two percent, is ludicrous because it hasn't
been there and you can and you can see this
because if you look at in October, when the Federal
Reserve or when the government makes their determination in terms
of what the cola, that cost of living allowance is
going to be on Social Security, those adjustments when they

(02:07:35):
make that determination, it's based on the inflation rate around
that period of time in October, and that's what they
determine the inflation rate. When they came up with the
inflation rate this time around at two point I think
it was what two point eight percent, the social Security
checks are going up next year, Well, it was two
point eight percent, and the comment at the time was

(02:07:56):
interest rates or the inflation rate has been around and
KOLA has been anywhere from around two point five to
two point eight percent over the last several years. So
that tells me that the inflation has been around two
point seven two point five thereabouts. The last time it
was down around two percent one point four somewhere in

(02:08:17):
that range was during the last Trump administration. Immediately when
the bidens took off, when Biden took office, that inflation
rate went up. Do you remember that. Back in June
of twenty twenty two, inflation hit nine point one percent.
And throughout the entire Biden administration, the inflation rate was
I think, on average around for the entire four years

(02:08:39):
was right around four and a half percent, between four
and a half percent and five. During the Trump administration,
there was only one quarter I believe that the inflation
rate went above two percent. So in terms of where
the inflation rate is and where it's heading and what's
going on, if you look at and I'm going to
set the stage here because when we get back, I'm
going to tell you where some of this inflation is
coming from, and it ain't from tariffs, and it isn't

(02:09:01):
from some of the stuff that the spoon fed regurgitators
in the mainstream media would love you to believe. I'm
Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five krs, The
Talk Station, eight fifty in the morning, Kevin Gordon in
for Brian Thomas, fifty five krs, the Talk Station. Let's

(02:09:26):
go to the phones and talk to Ron. Ron fifty
five krs. Thanks for listening, Thanks for calling in.

Speaker 13 (02:09:33):
Thank you so much for great Thank you so much
for filling in for Brian. I enjoy you guys very much,
very both.

Speaker 7 (02:09:39):
My pleasure with it.

Speaker 13 (02:09:40):
Yeah, with the topic on inflation, there's something I wanted
to bring up that really frustrates me no ending and
it's the unrealistic expectation the regurgitate media creates. You know,
what would happen if inflation went to zero? What would
happen to prices? And I think the regurgitate media makes
people think, oh, prices are going to come down. Well,
what does it mean when inflation is zero?

Speaker 2 (02:10:03):
Well, there's no growth, right, and it.

Speaker 13 (02:10:06):
Means that there's no increase in prices. Doesn't mean they're
necessarily going to go down. Now, some will go down,
some might still go up, right, But the expectation that
the media is creating for everybody is that, well, if
we were succeeding in prices would go down, but that
would be deflation.

Speaker 2 (02:10:21):
Well, there are certain areas ron where inflation or those
prices would come down. When you look at stuff like
certain commodities like eggs, you know you had that during
the bird flu. Then you have you know, drought situations
where grain goes up. Coffee prices go up because of
down in the shell. We don't produce coffee. I think

(02:10:42):
what one percent of our coffee comes from either what
was it Hawaii and Puerto Rico. The rest is imported,
and so we're relying on that. So those areas will
go down, will go down and fluctuate. But in terms
of you know a lot of the everyday type of things,
you know, clothing for instance, unless there is something that
drastically happens in terms of the manufacturing process those clothing,

(02:11:05):
that clothing is not going to go down. So yeah,
something along.

Speaker 13 (02:11:09):
Those lines, and you know. So the main message is
that the Democrats have wrecked everything by having such high
inflation that made everything go up, and even if we
get inflation to zero, doesn't mean that everything's going to
go down, right, Like you said, some things can for
certain reasons, but a lot of things may not. And
it's just that never gets talked about, at least not
that I can hear. No, and so much for the

(02:11:31):
opportunity to talk.

Speaker 2 (02:11:32):
I appreciate it, Ron, thank you so much. I want
to touch on also the fact that you know, when
you're looking at inflation, it's not you know, each inflation
month is not a one off. So when you go
back to June of twenty twenty two, when inflation went
up nine point one percent, the inflation doesn't drop back

(02:11:54):
down to zero going into the next month. The inflation
is on top of that nine point one percent. So
it's the well, what people talk about in terms of
compound interest. If you're talking about a product that costs
a dollar today and then cost a dollar three tomorrow,

(02:12:16):
and then inflation goes up another three percent, it doesn't
that that number is not a dollar three, it's a
dollar six plus, and so that it's building on top
of that. I saw a report the other day, and
I don't know why they put this out, but they
had a report that they took a market basket of

(02:12:37):
goods from nineteen eighty one and they said, well, here's
what those prices were back in nineteen eighty one. They
went through turkey, the dressing, and all canned beans and
so on, and they came up with a market basket
of you know, the turkey costs like seven dollars or

(02:12:59):
something like that at and the total was like fourteen
dollars for a Thanksgiving meal. Those same prices in twenty
twenty five, when they added them up, was forty six dollars.
And that's a two hundred and thirty eight percent increase.
But when you look at where our taxes are in

(02:13:20):
terms of the average amount of taxes per household, we're
up like three hundred percent. The salary of congressmen and
senators are up two hundred and twenty five percent. So
when you look at food prices and inflation being up
two hundred and thirty percent from back in nineteen eighty one,

(02:13:40):
well everything else has gone up as well. And when
you look at what is going on as far as
our inflation, let's not forget the contracts that were signed
by the railroad workers back of a year or so ago,
their wage increases, ups wage increases. The UPS drivers out
there are making over one hundred and seventy thousand dollars

(02:14:03):
a year when the UAW their contract came up for
negotiation and they got a huge almost ten percent increase
every year. That goes into the cost of manufacturing different products,
and that's going to boost inflation. So if and I'm
not begrudging people getting what they're paid or what they're due,
but the fact is, let's not discount the fact that

(02:14:25):
that's going to add to inflation, and let's be honest
about that. So again, that's my two cents worth. Oh
wait a minute, I can't say two cents worth anymore
because they've done away with a penny, which is a
very stupid idea in in my opinion. Well, folks, it's
been a lot of fun. Stay tuned for Glenn Beck
coming up top of the R. I'm Kevin Gordon in
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