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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Frauday in Minnesota, fix this in sixty days.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Jale Han Omark on Face the Nation, What is a.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Feeling of the SBI?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Marjorie Taylor Green on sixty minutes? I got check in
off fifty five KRZ the talk station.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Fifty five KRCD talk station seven o six.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
This Tuesday morning.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
December of the ninth, Christmas is done, Barroway, Dan Carroll
and for Brian Thomas joined a couple of days off.
Brian Thomas is back tomorrow and our buddy Joe Strucker
was able to talk to Andrew Pappis and get him
to get up early in the morning. Papas, who is
currently convalescing from a serious illness. You don't have You
(00:54):
don't have the wu, hon, do you.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I'll explain somebody, Dan Carroll, was if you were suffering
the ailment that I am suffering, it would be you'd
be laying in a hospital with so many tubes in
you they wouldn't be able to see you. Okay, So
let's have a little bit of compassion for those of
us that are not only suffering but are still getting
(01:17):
up every day and contributing to society meetings.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
It's fantastic that is great. Let me ask you a
little hypothetical question for you.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I love your hypothetical.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, there is a going to be a meeting today
of a committee in Cincinnati City Hall. It is the
Public Safety and Governance Committee. And if you Andrew Pappas
were a member of said committee and the ordinance, I
know it would never happen. That's why it's hypothetical. And
(01:48):
an ordinance came before you that was a settlement of
eight point one million dollars, and.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You said, uh, look, we need you.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
To sign off on this because we want to pay
two million dollars to the lawyers and four hundred and
seventy nine plaintiffs upwards of ten thousand dollars apiece over
because they were they were rioting and disobeying curfew orders
and disobeying police on the streets of Cincinnati in the
(02:17):
summer of the spring of twenty twenty. Would you go
along with and and fix your signature to such an ordinance?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You know, I'm glad you asked that question.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
First of all.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
To answer your questions is simply, there's no way in
hell I would ever sign that agreement, nor should anyone
that has taken the oath to protect public sign that oath? Okay,
But secondly I have I spoke to a police officer
yesterday and I posted about this on Facebook, and I
didn't know that I would be speaking to a Cincinnati
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police officer yesterday. And I said, let me ask you
a question, because this officer was in the meeting where
the settlement was announced and he got to ask some
questions about it.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
How about that and how about.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
That breaking news? And so I said, how does it
make you feel as a police officer that city The
city passes an ordinance, asks you to enforce it, and
literally every encounter that you have with the public of
this nature is risks your life because you never know
how anything's going to go. I mean a traffic stop
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an officer risks their lives because you don't know how
it's going to go. And I said, how does it
make you feel? He said, it's not only is it infuriating.
On one hand, you just you're just consumed with how
can this happen? Because the very people that we were
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asked to keep the city safe from burning. If you
remember the Summer of Love of twenty twenty protests, you
remember seeing a reporter standing in front of a burn
building going up like an inferno, and he's telling you
don't pay attention to the flames behind leim A lot
of these people are peaceful. Okay, great, that's fantastic. A
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lot of them aren't mostly peaceful yet yet are our
men and women in law enforcement put their lives on
the line to protect businesses, protect residents, residences, to protect
the residence of Cincinnati from the same absolute carnage we
saw in other cities. And what did they get for it?
(04:31):
They got kicked in the teeth. And you know what
he said to me, He said, let me tell you
what that does to me. First of all, I'm marking
the clock when I'm when my time is up, I'm
out of here, says, I Am out of here. I'm
not working for this any longer. But he's not going
to walk away from his pension right now. That would
be you know, that'd be foolish on his part. Secondly,
because human they you know, human, we have to keep
(04:52):
our families. You know, it's do it right by our families. First. Secondly,
he said, and the next time that they ask us
to do something like this, that there's you know, widespread
civil unrest and they call the police to come out
and quell it. He said, we're not going to do it.
I mean, we'll show up. We're not arresting anybody.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
What's the point, what's the point?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
What is the point?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, I suggested, I suggested earlier this morning that they
just armed police officer with giant sacks of cash and
pass out money, you know, maybe four or five hundred
bucks per protester and say you would you please go
on come back tomorrow night. We'll have another four or
five hundred bucks for you, and just go on. Cut
out the middleman, and just.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
The middle which is this is the attorney. So you
saved the attorney.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Fees, justice first money directly to individuals who want to,
you know, disobey curfews and police orders and all the
rest of it.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Just now what he told me. What he told me
also was this was the result of the law department
charging these people under a incorrect either statute or whatever.
And I don't speak legally. That's above my pay grade.
I'm not you know me, Well, Dan, I'm not the smartest,
you know, person in the room. Uh, And I like
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to people know that I'm not the smartest, but let
me say this. I'll fool you, right, I want you
to underestimate me, which is great, but I will tell
you this, if that's true, I want you to understand
the logic here. So the law department and with the city,
passes an ordinance and this and the police enforce the ordinance,
and then the law department makes mistake and charges these
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these people that were arrested under either the wrong statute
or something of legalese nature. And I'm not sure what
the he mentioned is something called M one versus M four.
I don't know what that means because I'm not usually
down at the Justice center, and forgive me, I'm not.
I just don't hang out there, nor am I called
down there. But I will tell you this, if that's true,
(06:55):
complete the circle. So the law all this stems apparently
from the law departments ineptness and incompetence. So they made
the mistake, and now the city is going to turn around.
They're going to reward the very people that were causing
the crime because of a law department's mistake. And you know,
a class action lawsuit brought about, and you know, I'm
(07:18):
I don't understand. Given everything we just had, what was
it two nights ago. I thought that crime was supposed
to slow down in the city. From what I've heard,
there were more shootings, there was a couple of street takeovers,
and it was cold outside, which I thought that wasn't
supposed to happen. But we have a problem in the
city of Cincinnati, and all something like this does, in
my very humble opinion, is it exacerbates the situation because
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the criminals, I mean, imagine being a criminal. You're laughing,
you are laughing. What are they going to do?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Arrest us or pay us?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
How does any reasonable person reach any other conclusion than
we are inviting more of this in the future. You know,
the Inquirer has done a deep dive on this, and
they assure us in the settlement that if you were
a person charged with any accompanying felony or offense of
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violence or property damage, then you're not part of this settlement.
Do you believe that for one second that individuals who
were observed by police engaging in property violence or damage,
or knocking planners over, breaking windows, engaging in maybe some theft,
Do you believe for one minute that those people aren't
going to get part of this payoff?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
No, do you absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
It may say that in the settlement, but these all
these cases were dismissed. So it has the city gone in,
has the city law department gone in and examined individual
by individual and case by case to make sure that
anyone who engaged in any violent activity is not going
to be part of this settlement. What assurances do we
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have that that's taken place?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
None? None? They you know, I the very same. Listen,
this is this is ultimately what the voters have voted for.
I mean, let's be sure the voters, the voter who
don't care. The voters don't.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Care, what's eight million care? I don't. I'm like you.
I don't live in the city. I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I don't vote a bit, But I don't want to
see things like this happened. I don't want I don't
want the city of Cincinnati to be on national Look,
we were on national television plenty when we had the
beatdown that took place in the streets of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
You know what we did. You know when we didn't.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Make national television is when the George Soros sponsored UH
agitators came to our city and and our police force,
our law enforcement, the Hamilton County Sheriffs and the Cincinnati
police shut them down.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
The mayor.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
The mayor took this the proper steps, issued the uh,
the the the ordinance to have the curfew, and we
shut it down. And guess what we weren't on national
TV then, why? Because we didn't have buildings that were burning,
we didn't have police cars that were overturned, we didn't have,
you know, the complete street takeovers like they had in
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other cities.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
No question.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And you know, you just sit there, Imagine that you
owned a business downtown and I'm thinking of all the
small business owners that are getting up this morning driving
to work downtown or somewhere within the city limits. Okay,
it doesn't have to be downtown. The city encompasses a
lot of neighborhoods. And you sit there and you're struggling,
and you're working, and your business is you know, owning
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a small business, which is the backbone of America, is
a tough thing. And you sit there and see, you know,
not only do you have to keep your business running
your customers safe, but you know, you you see every
day your neighborhood and you see what's going on in
the neighborhood that you're doing business, and here the city
comes along and the great people that are that are
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a drain on in your neighborhood by being soaking up
all the resources and or causing problems, whether it's you know,
petty crime or major crime, whatever the case might be.
You see these people getting rewarded where and and and
yet you get up every day, go to work, pay
your taxes. Where's your where's your olive branch from the
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city of Cincinnati. I mean, where's that? Where's your thank
you for thank you? Without you, small business owner, we
wouldn't have places for the people in this neighborhood to work,
because like it or not, not everybody works in a
in a huge building downtown. Most of it is still
still to a large degree, most of Americans are employed
by small business in this country. And this is a
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not only a kick in the teeth to the taxpayers,
the law abiding taxpayers in Cincinnati. Whether you live in
Cincinnati or just outside Cincinnati, you are affected by what
happens in Cincinnati when and and and and you get
up every day and go to work, and they're just
they just you are taken for granted and what they
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are doing is actually I believe, you know, paying the
inmates that are now running the asylum.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, all right, Andrews, stay right there. We got to
get to a break, pay a couple of bills, and
we'll be right back with our buddy Andrew Pappas on
fifty five KRCV.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Talk station since two thousand and eight, center of Hopus
krc the talk station fifty five krc DE talk station.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Dan Carolyn for Brian Thomas, continuing our conversation with Andrew
Pappas and Papas The The Inquirer did a deep dive
into how the settlement breaks down, and here's here's my
favorite part. For those who were detained for a period
of more than five hours in association with their arrest,
they could be eligible up for for up to another
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two thousand dollars. So I talked about this earlier this morning,
and and my math was an air. I said that
comes out to two hundred dollars an hour. I'm wrong
about that. That's four hundred dollars an hour. Four hundred
dollars an hour be a protested pays pretty good. The
eleven lead plaintiffs in the case receive an additional five
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thousand dollars for their role Andrew and representing their fellow plaineiffs.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Isn't that it's outstanding. First of all, I don't blame
you because I've heard you utter many times the phrase.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Math is hard, Math is hardn forgiving. I do not
claim to be a genius at math.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
But you know, you know it's funny because during the
break I heard something that I thought it was very
apropos and I'll let you look at up really quick
to see what it means. But the point of the
matter is is that I think counsel, I think counsel
and everyone affiliated with this decision should take a session
at the Lindener Center that advertises for mental health because
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it's praisy.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Should avail themselves with those services.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Absolutely, they should have that. They should be listening to
fifty five r SEE and they should call the sponsors
that are advertisers on this program because anyone that would
anyone that would agree with this just I mean, I
just did. But does it surprise you? I mean, at
the end of the day, does it surprise you? We
have the City of Cincinnati continuing their contract with Iris
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the virus, and we have we have the mayor then running,
you know, the mayor of Cincinnati who apparently understands the
phrase math is hard because he can't make his car
payment and all that. You know, especially especially, let's be fair,
especially in this age of instant communication and apps on
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your phone and being able to see your banking records
at any time twenty four to seven, it's hard to
remember if you've paid your card wrong. It's very very difficult,
very hard. But you know, after all of this, what happens.
They get They get re elected eighty perc So you
know you're gonna you're going to go to the squeaky wheel.
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You're going to go to the people that are causing
the problems, and you're gonna say, hey, what can I
do to make you just be cool for a little
while so I can get re elected. And that's who
your basis. Because the rest of the public is so
fractured and splintered it doesn't really matter. And they've got
their heads down going to work every day, living their lives,
paying their bills, paying their car payments. Excuse me, mister mayor.
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And you know at the nothing there are no repercussions
for all these bad decisions. That's my point.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Well, you know, I thought Iris Rollie had carved out
a pretty good gig for her son when it was
learned that he was down there on Fountain Square passed
and not Fountain Square but Government Square, passing out some
informational flyers to the tune of about fifty eight dollars
an hour. I thought that was a pretty good gig.
But if I can begin, you know, if I can
be detained by Cincinnati police and hang around the Hamilton
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County Justice Center or the Transit center underneath Fort Washington
Way to the tune of about four hundred bucks an hour,
I think I know which way I'm going to go.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I know some attorneys that don't make four hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Now that's a pretty good deal.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
So uh, Kevin Aldrich, who is the opinion editor, we've
only got about a minute here at an engagement editor
at the Inquiry took the mayor to task for his story,
not really not really holding water when it comes to
this story, does does does aftab Purval need to come
correct on this? Does he need to just own, just
own whatever happened with the repossessions and say look here's
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the deal and get this bead he cannot allow this
to drag on and keep and keep dogging him.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Here's what a tab Provro's gonna He's going to ignore this.
The press is going to get tired of it. No
one's going to remember it. It's just going to fade away,
and a tab Purval will be propped up by the
Democrats as the next uh you know, promised child of
the Democrat party because he's a you know, he's he's
he's a nice looking, clean cut young man that they
will run for the next higher office. He's never, in
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my opinion, he's never really had a he's never really
had an interest in serving in any office other than
the next office he was going to. So look, I'm
just telling you what's gonna happen. They're gonna do nothing.
And let's be fair good that one reporter at the
inquiry chose to do a quote unquote deep dive and say,
we wait, we have read the document here that says
that's not true. You know, because the news media couldn't
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seem to hold him to task while he was sitting
in front of the camera. They just said, oh, okay,
that's a great excuse. You know, your auto pay got
messed up for not one month, not two months, not
three months, plus all the emails you must have had it,
plus the text messages, plus the phone calls you didn't
even notice that hasn't had.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
A car repossessed. I mean, come on, it happens.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I think it's about I think it's in today's were
all the politics. I think some sort of crime, whether
it's embezzling billions of dollars in Minnesota or missing a
few car payments, I mean that gives you street cred
and that makes you you know. Now, the base is like,
you know what, he understands what I'm going through. So
I'm going to support that man rather than saying, this
is the guy that's involved. This is the guy that's
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handling our public trust and our public money, our public treasure,
and he can't freaking make a car payment or know
what's in his bank account. I'm sorry, no disrespect, listen.
I'm empathetic as the next person, but public officials should
be held to a higher standard.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
All right, Well with that, Andrew, will let you go.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Dan Carroll, I'm on a contact, Yes, sir, the government
is called and they want to make a anybody out
of my blood because I've conquered the man called you're here.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
You're a real humanitarian, doing it for.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
The doing it for the people, Dan Carroll, the people
have a
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Great day on Facebook, man, all right, see you
Frauday in Minnesota, fix this in sixty days.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Jale Han Omark on Face the Nation, What is a.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Feeling of the SBI?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Marjorie Taylor Green on sixty minutes? I got check in
off fifty five KRZ the talk station.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Fifty five KRCD talk station seven o six.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
This Tuesday morning.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
December of the ninth, Christmas is done, Barroway, Dan Carroll
and for Brian Thomas joined a couple of days off.
Brian Thomas is back tomorrow and our buddy Joe Strucker
was able to talk to Andrew Pappis and get him
to get up early in the morning. Papas, who is
currently convalescing from a serious illness. You don't have You
(00:54):
don't have the wu, hon, do you.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I'll explain somebody, Dan Carroll, was if you were suffering
the ailment that I am suffering, it would be you'd
be laying in a hospital with so many tubes in
you they wouldn't be able to see you. Okay, So
let's have a little bit of compassion for those of
us that are not only suffering but are still getting
(01:17):
up every day and contributing to society meetings.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
It's fantastic that is great. Let me ask you a
little hypothetical question for you.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I love your hypothetical.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, there is a going to be a meeting today
of a committee in Cincinnati City Hall. It is the
Public Safety and Governance Committee. And if you Andrew Pappas
were a member of said committee and the ordinance, I
know it would never happen. That's why it's hypothetical. And
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an ordinance came before you that was a settlement of
eight point one million dollars, and.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You said, uh, look, we need you.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
To sign off on this because we want to pay
two million dollars to the lawyers and four hundred and
seventy nine plaintiffs upwards of ten thousand dollars apiece over
because they were they were rioting and disobeying curfew orders
and disobeying police on the streets of Cincinnati in the
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summer of the spring of twenty twenty. Would you go
along with and and fix your signature to such an ordinance?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You know, I'm glad you asked that question.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
First of all.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
To answer your questions is simply, there's no way in
hell I would ever sign that agreement, nor should anyone
that has taken the oath to protect public sign that oath? Okay,
But secondly I have I spoke to a police officer
yesterday and I posted about this on Facebook, and I
didn't know that I would be speaking to a Cincinnati
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police officer yesterday. And I said, let me ask you
a question, because this officer was in the meeting where
the settlement was announced and he got to ask some
questions about it.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
How about that and how about.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
That breaking news? And so I said, how does it
make you feel as a police officer that city The
city passes an ordinance, asks you to enforce it, and
literally every encounter that you have with the public of
this nature is risks your life because you never know
how anything's going to go. I mean a traffic stop
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an officer risks their lives because you don't know how
it's going to go. And I said, how does it
make you feel? He said, it's not only is it infuriating.
On one hand, you just you're just consumed with how
can this happen? Because the very people that we were
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asked to keep the city safe from burning. If you
remember the Summer of Love of twenty twenty protests, you
remember seeing a reporter standing in front of a burn
building going up like an inferno, and he's telling you
don't pay attention to the flames behind leim A lot
of these people are peaceful. Okay, great, that's fantastic. A
(04:10):
lot of them aren't mostly peaceful yet yet are our
men and women in law enforcement put their lives on
the line to protect businesses, protect residents, residences, to protect
the residence of Cincinnati from the same absolute carnage we
saw in other cities. And what did they get for it?
(04:31):
They got kicked in the teeth. And you know what
he said to me, He said, let me tell you
what that does to me. First of all, I'm marking
the clock when I'm when my time is up, I'm
out of here, says, I Am out of here. I'm
not working for this any longer. But he's not going
to walk away from his pension right now. That would
be you know, that'd be foolish on his part. Secondly,
because human they you know, human, we have to keep
(04:52):
our families. You know, it's do it right by our families. First. Secondly,
he said, and the next time that they ask us
to do something like this, that there's you know, widespread
civil unrest and they call the police to come out
and quell it. He said, we're not going to do it.
I mean, we'll show up. We're not arresting anybody.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
What's the point, what's the point?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
What is the point?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, I suggested, I suggested earlier this morning that they
just armed police officer with giant sacks of cash and
pass out money, you know, maybe four or five hundred
bucks per protester and say you would you please go
on come back tomorrow night. We'll have another four or
five hundred bucks for you, and just go on. Cut
out the middleman, and just.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
The middle which is this is the attorney. So you
saved the attorney.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Fees, justice first money directly to individuals who want to,
you know, disobey curfews and police orders and all the
rest of it.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Just now what he told me. What he told me
also was this was the result of the law department
charging these people under a incorrect either statute or whatever.
And I don't speak legally. That's above my pay grade.
I'm not you know me, Well, Dan, I'm not the smartest,
you know, person in the room. Uh, And I like
(06:10):
to people know that I'm not the smartest, but let
me say this. I'll fool you, right, I want you
to underestimate me, which is great, but I will tell
you this, if that's true, I want you to understand
the logic here. So the law department and with the city,
passes an ordinance and this and the police enforce the ordinance,
and then the law department makes mistake and charges these
(06:32):
these people that were arrested under either the wrong statute
or something of legalese nature. And I'm not sure what
the he mentioned is something called M one versus M four.
I don't know what that means because I'm not usually
down at the Justice center, and forgive me, I'm not.
I just don't hang out there, nor am I called
down there. But I will tell you this, if that's true,
(06:55):
complete the circle. So the law all this stems apparently
from the law departments ineptness and incompetence. So they made
the mistake, and now the city is going to turn around.
They're going to reward the very people that were causing
the crime because of a law department's mistake. And you know,
a class action lawsuit brought about, and you know, I'm
(07:18):
I don't understand. Given everything we just had, what was
it two nights ago. I thought that crime was supposed
to slow down in the city. From what I've heard,
there were more shootings, there was a couple of street takeovers,
and it was cold outside, which I thought that wasn't
supposed to happen. But we have a problem in the
city of Cincinnati, and all something like this does, in
my very humble opinion, is it exacerbates the situation because
(07:41):
the criminals, I mean, imagine being a criminal. You're laughing,
you are laughing. What are they going to do?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Arrest us or pay us?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
How does any reasonable person reach any other conclusion than
we are inviting more of this in the future. You know,
the Inquirer has done a deep dive on this, and
they assure us in the settlement that if you were
a person charged with any accompanying felony or offense of
(08:09):
violence or property damage, then you're not part of this settlement.
Do you believe that for one second that individuals who
were observed by police engaging in property violence or damage,
or knocking planners over, breaking windows, engaging in maybe some theft,
Do you believe for one minute that those people aren't
going to get part of this payoff?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
No, do you absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
It may say that in the settlement, but these all
these cases were dismissed. So it has the city gone in,
has the city law department gone in and examined individual
by individual and case by case to make sure that
anyone who engaged in any violent activity is not going
to be part of this settlement. What assurances do we
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have that that's taken place?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
None? None? They you know, I the very same. Listen,
this is this is ultimately what the voters have voted for.
I mean, let's be sure the voters, the voter who
don't care. The voters don't.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Care, what's eight million care? I don't. I'm like you.
I don't live in the city. I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I don't vote a bit, But I don't want to
see things like this happened. I don't want I don't
want the city of Cincinnati to be on national Look,
we were on national television plenty when we had the
beatdown that took place in the streets of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
You know what we did. You know when we didn't.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Make national television is when the George Soros sponsored UH
agitators came to our city and and our police force,
our law enforcement, the Hamilton County Sheriffs and the Cincinnati
police shut them down.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
The mayor.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
The mayor took this the proper steps, issued the uh,
the the the ordinance to have the curfew, and we
shut it down. And guess what we weren't on national
TV then, why? Because we didn't have buildings that were burning,
we didn't have police cars that were overturned, we didn't have,
you know, the complete street takeovers like they had in
(10:15):
other cities.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
No question.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And you know, you just sit there, Imagine that you
owned a business downtown and I'm thinking of all the
small business owners that are getting up this morning driving
to work downtown or somewhere within the city limits. Okay,
it doesn't have to be downtown. The city encompasses a
lot of neighborhoods. And you sit there and you're struggling,
and you're working, and your business is you know, owning
(10:39):
a small business, which is the backbone of America, is
a tough thing. And you sit there and see, you know,
not only do you have to keep your business running
your customers safe, but you know, you you see every
day your neighborhood and you see what's going on in
the neighborhood that you're doing business, and here the city
comes along and the great people that are that are
(10:59):
a drain on in your neighborhood by being soaking up
all the resources and or causing problems, whether it's you know,
petty crime or major crime, whatever the case might be.
You see these people getting rewarded where and and and
yet you get up every day, go to work, pay
your taxes. Where's your where's your olive branch from the
(11:20):
city of Cincinnati. I mean, where's that? Where's your thank
you for thank you? Without you, small business owner, we
wouldn't have places for the people in this neighborhood to work,
because like it or not, not everybody works in a
in a huge building downtown. Most of it is still
still to a large degree, most of Americans are employed
by small business in this country. And this is a
(11:43):
not only a kick in the teeth to the taxpayers,
the law abiding taxpayers in Cincinnati. Whether you live in
Cincinnati or just outside Cincinnati, you are affected by what
happens in Cincinnati when and and and and you get
up every day and go to work, and they're just
they just you are taken for granted and what they
(12:03):
are doing is actually I believe, you know, paying the
inmates that are now running the asylum.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, all right, Andrews, stay right there. We got to
get to a break, pay a couple of bills, and
we'll be right back with our buddy Andrew Pappas on
fifty five KRCV.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Talk station since two thousand and eight, center of Hopus
krc the talk station fifty five krc DE talk station.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Dan Carolyn for Brian Thomas, continuing our conversation with Andrew
Pappas and Papas The The Inquirer did a deep dive
into how the settlement breaks down, and here's here's my
favorite part. For those who were detained for a period
of more than five hours in association with their arrest,
they could be eligible up for for up to another
(12:50):
two thousand dollars. So I talked about this earlier this morning,
and and my math was an air. I said that
comes out to two hundred dollars an hour. I'm wrong
about that. That's four hundred dollars an hour. Four hundred
dollars an hour be a protested pays pretty good. The
eleven lead plaintiffs in the case receive an additional five
(13:11):
thousand dollars for their role Andrew and representing their fellow plaineiffs.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Isn't that it's outstanding. First of all, I don't blame
you because I've heard you utter many times the phrase.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Math is hard, Math is hardn forgiving. I do not
claim to be a genius at math.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
But you know, you know it's funny because during the
break I heard something that I thought it was very
apropos and I'll let you look at up really quick
to see what it means. But the point of the
matter is is that I think counsel, I think counsel
and everyone affiliated with this decision should take a session
at the Lindener Center that advertises for mental health because
(13:54):
it's praisy.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Should avail themselves with those services.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Absolutely, they should have that. They should be listening to
fifty five r SEE and they should call the sponsors
that are advertisers on this program because anyone that would
anyone that would agree with this just I mean, I
just did. But does it surprise you? I mean, at
the end of the day, does it surprise you? We
have the City of Cincinnati continuing their contract with Iris
(14:22):
the virus, and we have we have the mayor then running,
you know, the mayor of Cincinnati who apparently understands the
phrase math is hard because he can't make his car
payment and all that. You know, especially especially, let's be fair,
especially in this age of instant communication and apps on
(14:43):
your phone and being able to see your banking records
at any time twenty four to seven, it's hard to
remember if you've paid your card wrong. It's very very difficult,
very hard. But you know, after all of this, what happens.
They get They get re elected eighty perc So you
know you're gonna you're going to go to the squeaky wheel.
(15:04):
You're going to go to the people that are causing
the problems, and you're gonna say, hey, what can I
do to make you just be cool for a little
while so I can get re elected. And that's who
your basis. Because the rest of the public is so
fractured and splintered it doesn't really matter. And they've got
their heads down going to work every day, living their lives,
paying their bills, paying their car payments. Excuse me, mister mayor.
(15:26):
And you know at the nothing there are no repercussions
for all these bad decisions. That's my point.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Well, you know, I thought Iris Rollie had carved out
a pretty good gig for her son when it was
learned that he was down there on Fountain Square passed
and not Fountain Square but Government Square, passing out some
informational flyers to the tune of about fifty eight dollars
an hour. I thought that was a pretty good gig.
But if I can begin, you know, if I can
be detained by Cincinnati police and hang around the Hamilton
(15:55):
County Justice Center or the Transit center underneath Fort Washington
Way to the tune of about four hundred bucks an hour,
I think I know which way I'm going to go.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I know some attorneys that don't make four hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Now that's a pretty good deal.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
So uh, Kevin Aldrich, who is the opinion editor, we've
only got about a minute here at an engagement editor
at the Inquiry took the mayor to task for his story,
not really not really holding water when it comes to
this story, does does does aftab Purval need to come
correct on this? Does he need to just own, just
own whatever happened with the repossessions and say look here's
(16:35):
the deal and get this bead he cannot allow this
to drag on and keep and keep dogging him.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Here's what a tab Provro's gonna He's going to ignore this.
The press is going to get tired of it. No
one's going to remember it. It's just going to fade away,
and a tab Purval will be propped up by the
Democrats as the next uh you know, promised child of
the Democrat party because he's a you know, he's he's
he's a nice looking, clean cut young man that they
will run for the next higher office. He's never, in
(17:05):
my opinion, he's never really had a he's never really
had an interest in serving in any office other than
the next office he was going to. So look, I'm
just telling you what's gonna happen. They're gonna do nothing.
And let's be fair good that one reporter at the
inquiry chose to do a quote unquote deep dive and say,
we wait, we have read the document here that says
that's not true. You know, because the news media couldn't
(17:27):
seem to hold him to task while he was sitting
in front of the camera. They just said, oh, okay,
that's a great excuse. You know, your auto pay got
messed up for not one month, not two months, not
three months, plus all the emails you must have had it,
plus the text messages, plus the phone calls you didn't
even notice that hasn't had.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
A car repossessed. I mean, come on, it happens.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I think it's about I think it's in today's were
all the politics. I think some sort of crime, whether
it's embezzling billions of dollars in Minnesota or missing a
few car payments, I mean that gives you street cred
and that makes you you know. Now, the base is like,
you know what, he understands what I'm going through. So
I'm going to support that man rather than saying, this
is the guy that's involved. This is the guy that's
(18:09):
handling our public trust and our public money, our public treasure,
and he can't freaking make a car payment or know
what's in his bank account. I'm sorry, no disrespect, listen.
I'm empathetic as the next person, but public officials should
be held to a higher standard.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
All right, Well with that, Andrew, will let you go.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Dan Carroll, I'm on a contact, Yes, sir, the government
is called and they want to make a anybody out
of my blood because I've conquered the man called you're here.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
You're a real humanitarian, doing it for.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
The doing it for the people, Dan Carroll, the people
have a
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Great day on Facebook, man, all right, see you
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