Restore Wellness with George Brunemann and Keith Tenhundfeld

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Seven. I was six here but you about KRCD talk station.
I was so pleased to find out that George Venaman
and Keith Tennifield we're going to be in the studio
this hour, because well it's Friday and early in the
program the phones weren't even working, so I was going
to be left to my own devices for a full hour.
But no, we get to learn about wellness. We get
to try to improve our health and learn about some
new cutting edge research that we are going to talk

(00:28):
about today. George and Keith you can find him online
at Restore Wellness dot org. Of course, if you remember,
Keith is a nurse practitioner specializing in areas of health
and the diet and improving your body. He's over with
an organization called Root cause they're Inmherison. Keith, it's always
a pleasure to having you. Then, of course, George Brenneman,
the other man behind Restore Wellness dot org. They got

(00:48):
great information materials, links and resources, so check it out.
It's all about you helping yourself and help them help you,
and that's what we're here to do today. Guys. It's
great to see you both. Thanks Brian great I was
just waxing puetok over my wonderful outcome at my physical yesterday,
And you guys were part of my inspiration to change
my diet started that last year because I had that

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CT scan showing my lomph nodes and increase and that's
of course cancer related, and I found out about the
link between cancer and sugar started researching that, so I
did the full on keto up until Thanksgiving. I think
it's kind of funny because Thanksgivings fast approaching, So I
broke the full keto by enjoying some of Mom's of
turkey and dressing and stuffing and a little carbs. I

(01:32):
didn't go overwhelmed, but I used that moment in time
to sort of stop the full keto and then just
focus on keeping the sugar out of my diet and
limiting my carbs significantly, which is what I've been doing
ever since. My blood work was so awesome everything that
we talked about it. It was also great my blood
pressure was down. I couldn't believe that It's just been

(01:55):
a tremendous thing, and there was the objective information in
front of me. Now, is there a correlation between my
diet and the great numbers I had yesterday in contrast
to all the other numbers from the prior years that
I was staring at. I don't know, but it's the
one thing in my life that I have changed, so
I'm pointing to that. But I also feel better. You guys,

(02:16):
we were talking about that. I have a better just
a general outlook on life. I don't feel is mentally taxed.
I don't know that I'm thinking more clearly. I think
I actually think less clearly. But I just feel like
a better person, a happier person. And again I can only.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's an amazing how much changes just by changing your diet.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Right because I haven't exercised yet now I say yet,
I'm someday. I keep promising you guys, but thank you
for the inspiration. I kind of go through this long
wooded thing to try to get people to say, you
know what, it may be worth listening to George and
Keith about these things, because we do have some really
really cool stuff to talk about by way of sugar
and cancer, with the with the the the interview you
did with doctor Thomas Seyfried. Amazing, this is is this guy.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
I'm a seafree as a professor out at Boston, Massachusetts.
He's doing it for a very very long time, I believe,
I want to say nineteen sixty nine is real.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well, his book on cancer came out in twenty twelve,
so he's had this answer for at least a decade
now regarding this, and his research is getting to the
point now where you know, we did an interview with
him on Monday, and the end result of talking to
him was cancer is not a death sentence. There is
a way to treat it. And he's been at the

(03:30):
forefront of this for over a decade now, Okay, And
how this kind of came down to Pike is, you know,
we've been.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Doing a lot of off label self care natural approaches
to help facilitate cancer treatment at our place. And so
because of ivermectin that I use and everything else, I
was known as the Avermectin guy, and people started reaching
out saying, hey, cancer, this cancer, that can you help
mecount help my family. And I got in contact with
this gentleman named Jimbo Collins over on the West Side

(03:56):
and his father had cancer, and so we started talking
to me and sending me videos of this guy or
this this treatment, this option and doctor Thomas Seyffred came
across and anyway, so we kind of started digging into
a little bit more of his stuff, and before I
knew it, I just sent him an email. I said, hey,
doctor Thomas Eefred, would you like to come and be
on our podcast? And he said yes, And from there
it's just really lit up. You know how we want

(04:18):
to be able to present this data to your listeners,
which is pretty profound.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Okay now, and I hate to keep bringing up the
only thing I know is my own personal experience of
what a run on line. But part of the idea
was of taking sugar out of my dat is to
maybe maybe it might help with my lymphoma. Now, I'd
never seen a study that connected anything but hard cancers,
solid cancers to the reduction in sugar and having an
impact on it. Clearly there is that relationship and that's documented.

(04:42):
No nothing out on lymphoma. But I thought, what the hell,
maybe they'll do a white paper brought me sometime so
after the scan that showed that the nodes had increased,
suggesting I might have to go back on treatment, which
I never did. The most recent scan from a few
months ago showed they actually had gotten smaller. There you go,
whether there's a corollary, but it's the only thing I

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changed in my life.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Just to give you a little perspective, This research was
actually begun in nineteen twenty.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
The sugar cancer research.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
The sugar cancer research was done by a German scientist,
Otto Warburg in nineteen twenties. He's a Jewish scientist doctor
in Nazi Germany. He was kept alive because Hitler was
afraid of cancer and he knew this guy knew how
to cure it. And his cure was basically starved the

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body of sugar. And those papers made their way over
to the United States after the war. The Rockefellers and
the new pharma industry that was growing at that time
suppressed the data and it was only by accident that
this Thomas Seafried found it. He was given a I
think the story is he was given a drug that
supposedly shrunk brain cancer. He was studying glioblastoma blastoma.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, I'm Sarty Caesars and he learned that cancer. Well,
you're right, there was an opportunity for the He got
two grands. Basically he was working on with seizures and
and keto low sugar, right, and these these seizuars would
go away. At the same time, he was working on
cancer and found his correlations since he used to had
both of these kinds of things going on at the

(06:18):
same time. And then when he saw wait a minute,
these rats I think it was that were being also
targeted for diet was lowering their their.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
The brain cancer.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
So he was he was treating brain cancer and childhood
epilepsy at the same time. And childhood epilepsy he was
treating with a keto diet ketogenesis, and he found out
that the rats lost their brain cancer for you did
the same thing. And then he uncovered the research for
Moudel water and he's been going on and on ever since.
But you know, like he's connecting the dots and connecting

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the dots proving it. This guy, you could tell it's
a very technical. If you listen to the interview, it's
extremely technical. So we actually did a second podcast that
we're gonna have out over the weekend or next week
that we we sort of go aside.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
And put it in language in eighth grader connendals, Well, what.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
I liked is this guy thinks the way I like
to think. What are the equations that govern the chemical
the chemical processes of cancer, and what's the what's the
role of genetics. Well, it turns out gene ICs has
no rolling cancer and they've had some experiments that prove
this that if you take the nucleus of a cancer
cell put it in a healthy cell, cancer doesn't happen.

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So it's not genetic. It's it's definitely mitochondrial, just like
everything else we talk about. It's it's the energy production
in your cells that when that's destroyed by hypergross corn
syrup and carbs and you know, all of these other
things that are unnatural, suddenly your body susceptible to cancer.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
So unnatural in the sense that, at least from a
historical perspective, during our genetic development over the millennia, we
never had these high concentrations of sugars or mitochondria aren't
equipped to deal with them. And somehow these mass infusion
that we've started with over the past let's say a
hundred years or something, has transformed the way it produces

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energy well, or the way.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
I understand that the number one paleo, right, So there
were a bunch of cavemen running around.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, it's kind of think of the back of my mind. Right.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
So they're running, they're hunting, they're gathering, they're doing all
this physical activity number one, And there wasn't like abundant
food sources, so they weren't eating a lot and it
was all basically a protein and or fiber kind of diet,
paleo diet. Secondary when a cancer or any cell starts
to disregulate the ability for it to survive under normal,
oxygenation decreases and therefore the cell starts to get energy differently,

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and that's that's probably been going on for a very
very long time. But since sugar is fed by cancer, well,
cancer feeds off of sugar, and we add that to
our diet. Now cancer starts to be more abundant.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
And so that makes the case of like in the
United States, the number one killer of domestic dogs is cancer.
Wolves in the wild never get cancer. It's because we
started feeding the dogs, as he puts it, the same
crap we feed ourselves. Oh wow, if you feed a
dog just nothing but meat, it's not going to get cancer.
If you feed a human nothing but meat, it's not
going to get cancer. And some of the tribes in

(09:14):
Africa and the Aborigines in Australia. When they study them,
they don't even have a word for cancer because it
doesn't happen. They have to hunt their food. They go
long periods of time without eating, so intermittent fasting.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
There was a fasting element in there.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yet, all these things that prehistoric man understood but we've forgotten.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Oh, let's pause, We'll bring Keith and George back. Have
more discussions on our collective health. Here first word for
seven twenty year if you've got kars de talk station
Restore Wellness Dot Org, George Benaman and Keith tennefell behind that.
Keith nurse practitioner. George's just a brilliant guy who's interested
in health and wellness. But do you've been through this
whole experience yourself? Man?

Speaker 2 (09:54):
So I'm actually in the middle of a fast after
all of our talking about fasting and whatever. So I
met two and a half days into it. Oh wow,
it's an interesting process.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Okay, now that's good. I'm glad you started out with that,
because there's a the tail line. You mentioned a fasting
component to this, So talking about cancer underlying the health
and the health benefits of getting sugar out of your
diet and the research that was done by this physician
that they had some interaction with what was his name,
Thomas Seafreed. So more on that in a moment here.
But the fasting component, when we're talking about because that

(10:26):
sounds I remember my initial reaction when you start saying, well,
you really need a fast. It was like, God, there's
no freaking way I'm going to be able to fast.
But what do we talk about in terms of length
of time of a fast? I mean, can we do
short term fasting? What benefit do you get? Go ahead,
and let's talk about the details of this concept of fastest.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
So we did talk to him in detail, doctor Sefreed,
And he's not an MD, he's a PhD.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
He has to make that clear research.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
The same way I have to say.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
I'm not an MD.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
But the interesting thing is we started with the sixteen
eight is what you normally think of as intermittent fasting.
So you don't eat for sixteen hours and you eat
during an eight hour period every single day. And I've
been doing that forever. That's actually kind of easy. You
just sort of cut out breakfast and you're done.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
It's pretty much my routine. I don't eat anything after dinner, say,
let's say nothing after six pm. And most days even
though I have my banana most days of slaves here
and I don't eat anything until about nine thirty ten o'clock.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
That's perfect.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
See what makes me routine?

Speaker 2 (11:27):
And Keith, you can go into what sixteen eight does firstus.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Well, basically, you're just igniting your your liver to start
doing its job, putting you in a glconeogenesis, which allows
you to convert you know, your stored food or your
protein into energy instead of having it to depend on
sugar all the time.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
If you via carbohydrates, so that helps improve your your
your liver function scores when you get a blood test. So,
in spite of your best efforts to harm your liver
with your other activities, by doing this fasting thing regularly
and routinely, you can keep the liver in good health. Right,
because there's the answer, doctor Pritchard. Anyway, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
And at the same time, you're burning a lot of
the fact that sometimes accumulates in the liver making limits.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
She would, wouldn't you.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Exactly, And so that kind of continuous situation. We eat
too much in America anyway, right, yes, always, this three
mil a day thing is a scam. That's that's a
food industry gimmick, and we don't need to be doing that.
I am a big component of making sure that you
round up protein nicely throughout the day. So, I mean,
there is some research that we really haven't talked much about,
but people can do a bulk of protein in the
morning and a bulk of protein in their in their

(12:32):
later meals. A bulk being roughly half your body weight
as far as kilograms go, So you should be anywhere
from like point six to one gram of protein per kilogram.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Gram per kilogram, okay, if you're.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Weigh two hundred punds, you're looking at about one hundred
grams at a one milligram per kilogram or one gram,
so roughly anywhere from fifty to one hundred grams of
protein for a two hundred pound patient or person. If
you're especially if you're working out, then you can bring that.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Protein up as well. But is twice a day, yeah, exactly,
and two meals a day? How am I doing? Now?
If you're working out?

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Some people eat a lot more frequently throughout the day
because of their glucose index and their needs for that.
But when you start lengthening that fast, then you start
doing some really cool stuff where you start in the beginning,
you start breaking down cells that your body doesn't need.
It goes around chewing up things, and it will know
I don't need that cell that cells dysfunctional aka cancer cells, right,

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and so you start to actually chew up old cells,
bad cells, dead cells as energy sources. Okay, and then
you start getting into stem cell production, where your body
is now in a semi kind of like, hey, we
need to start really regenerating our cellulars like a desperation mode.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
My god, we're not getting any food coming in here, right,
and that's why you produce.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
You are a huge fan of the longer fast.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, that's the next question was going to have. So
what I'm doing intimate and fast and fine, but you said,
then you move into the longer fast. How long are
we talking about here? Well, I mean I.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Would love to see people in a four day fast
for how long? I mean for how how frequently?

Speaker 1 (14:01):
How frequently?

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeap, I don't people do it different? I would say
at least probably once a month. If you really want
to knock out cancer, if you.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Want to knock out cancer. But for health, I've seen
most of them say like once a quarter or something.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Okay, and you want to clean out the enginet way. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
So we've been doing this for like a year. I've
gone as long as two days before. This is the
first time I've tried longer than two And what's interesting
is you get these hits so like around ten o'clock
the first day. You know, I haven't eaten since six pm,
ten o'clock, which is when I normally started to eat. Right,
I'm hungry. Well, if you can rough it out for
two hours, that goes away.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Help drink a glass of water.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Drink of water, and then you know, some salt with
your water, just so you got to like cltic sea salt.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, sea salt.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
And then what was interesting with me this time was
when I got to you know, thirty six forty hours,
I started to feel like I was starving.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
I told my wife, I said, I'm going to quit tonight,
you know, meeting today. Yes, I woke up this morning,
I've got hungry.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
I feel fine.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Shoot, I could go another day, but now I'm looking
forward to you know sooner tonight.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Well, in your experience, George and I suppose this is
well documented. Just ride out those hunger pangs because there
is a light at the end of the tunnel in
a few hours down the road. It's interesting.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
And I only did this because I've been getting yelled
at here for a year.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Right. Yeah, he's like to you what my wife is
to me.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
So I thought, Okay, I'll give it a shot. And
like last night, going to bed, I had the migraines
I get because I get migraines, but that all went
away this morning. It's like, Okay, you gotta just trust
the process. So now I'm a believer. So next time
I do this, I do Thanksgiving, I'll go longer.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Do kind of a Surgeon General's warning, and that makes
sure that you stay hydrated, very very important because of
the process of going into the keytosis. You really need
water to help clear out all the key tones and
your kidneys and everything else, and it can cause a problem. Yeah,
and don't be far from a bathroom while you're doing that,
so make sure you're drinking plenty of water.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Plenty of water. More with George and Keith Restore Wellness
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Happy Friday, Happy Healthy Friday with George Brenman and Keith
Tenfield in sidio. Go to Restore Wellness dot org. You
guys have that podcast with doctor with Professor Thomas Seafried

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on your Restore Wellness dot org website. So if people
are wildly curious about what he had to say, even
though it is technical, you're going to release a follow
up public podcast to break this down a little bit
more so. We talked about the direct correlation the research
that's been going on for decades and decades between sugar
and cancer. Talked about keto being profoundly influential on well

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reducing cancer living, the size, the spread, killing it basically
by depriving it of the nutrients it's looking for or
the sugar it's looking for. You talked about fasting and
the importance of fasting to get this process going. I
know the E word is going to come in. Let's
get it out of the way. Exercise go ahead. Well,

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exercise is the cheat of the system.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
So one way to get rid of sugar is never
put it in the other way to get that sugar.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Is to exercise. Well, see, if you don't want to exercise,
can just take take the bull by the horns and
eliminate the sugar.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Right, that's a great way. Look, starve yourself to death
and you'd be great. I mean anyway, So let's talk
about what muscle is. Muscle is a fantastic organ. It
does more things for your body than probably anything else.
And you can grow muscle, you can make more of
an excellent thing. And when you let your body go
to waste and then you don't move muscles and it starts,
especially after your the age of forty, muscle starts to disappear. Right,

(17:38):
Sarcopenia is what they call it. And so if you
can imagine, if we need muscle in order to absorb sugar,
and we go work out and build more muscle, we're
gonna absorb more sugar when we're going to keep that
glucose index lower, therefore lowering your risk of cancer, diabetes,
heart disease, the whole gamut, because high sugar causes so
much disease.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Okay, So can you say absorb sugar that keep that's
taking it out of your body because it's using it
to actually convert to energy as opposed to fueling the
growth of cancer.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
The more muscle you have, the more resting metabolic rate
you have. So you're burning muscle or sorry, burning fat,
doing absolutely nothing. If you have more muscle, I see,
it's an engine, like just this metabolic engine, if you will.
And the more muscle you have, the more your metabolic
process happens.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Pretty cool, it really is.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
So the exercise is like if you wanted to supercharge
what you're doing with your diet. So if you if
you just do the diet alone, yes, things are going
to get better. If you can keep your body in keytosis,
things are going to get better, and not just cancer.
I mean, like let's just say it's everything. Type two
diabetes will go away, Dementia risk goes way down if

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you're in keto.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
So there is a correlation between this and dementia risk
as well. Oh. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
In fact, the only drug that works for dementia right
now is keto. They keep trying all these drugs that
make it better, this.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Whole plaque build path and apparently that is that apparently
didn't work out.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Two things you can do for dementia or go into
katosis and stop taking statins. You need that cholesterol to
build your brain back up.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Now I'm talking like a doctor, So now back now,
you're doing a fantastic job, and I appreciate it. And
I think the other aspect to this is that exercise
needs to be looked at as just as important as sleeping,
just as important as eating and drinking water and breathing.
I mean, it is essential to our life. We talked
about the Paleo like everybody was moving back then, and
we weren't to kill your We were signing because we

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broke a bone and it got massively infected. We didn't
have antibiotics back then, but we died healthy. Here we
are just getting eaten away because of sedentary lifestyle. So
if we were too, honestly, as a country, if we
were to exercise at least five days a week, you know,
make it a part of your routine because I need
to because I have a sit down job, or whatever
it might be, you would be so healthy. Everybody would

(19:57):
be so healthy, we would be disease would start to
go away. It actually starts to move the mark on
cancer risk and heart disease. But instead nobody's getting cured
of those things right. And my friend Jimbo Collins, he
is a jim on the West Side. He is the
healthiest guy I know, and he's he's ripped right. He
works out all the time, and I admire that. And
because I became friends with him, I have also understood

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and seen the benefits of exercise.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
I know. See, I'm not in a position to deny
any of this. I'm just I can repeat chapter and
verse for like the next hour all the reasons that
people should exercise. And I had my own physician yesterday
doing the same thing. He said, you know, Brian, you
might when I said, I can tell you what you're
going to say, like, you know, just talk to my wife.
And how many times has she had these exact same

(20:43):
conversations with their or anybody like Keith and George. She
works well in a sense. Every single day she takes
Liam out to the park and does at least a
couple of miles either walking or for fast running chasing
the dog around. Yeah, and Liam gets probably quadruple that
running around chasing the laser being but yeah, every single

(21:04):
day my wife is and that's what I She'll say
to that she goes I got in the parking walk,
you can at least get up and walk the dog.
I know, I know, I know. Seven thirty six more
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(21:25):
It's restore wellness rather restore cancer the underlying theme for this.
But overall it's all about diets. So even if you
don't have cancer, everything George and Keith that you're talking
about is strongly encourage really for everyone.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Because it's they're all the same symptom. I mean, the
book Good Energy from Casey means who hopefully will be
surge in general soon. But her book is totally focused
on what happens when the energy in your cells is
not being fed properly and not working properly. It leads
to all of those diseases type two diabetes, dementia, cancer,
all of them. You're right, this is this is kind

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of like the foundation for not getting sick in the
first place.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Understood, Get ahead of it and you don't have to
deal with the aftermath. That's fine, so Keith earlier in
the show, unless there're so I know you're off air,
you were saying, I don't want to sound preachy. I
don't want to sound like I'm lecturing. I don't think
it necessarily does. But I know where you're coming from.
It is out of an abundance of care and concern
for people generally speaking that this advice comes from. Sometimes

(22:29):
takes a hammer to get people to follow the advice,
but at least you're providing it, and I applaud you
guys for doing that, whether or not someone follows it
or not. And the only reason I bring up my
own personal, you know reality on this because I've been
with the before part and i've been with the afterpart,
and I didn't pursue it as headlong as you guys
are recommending. I haven't done multi day fast. I do

(22:50):
these little periodic fast kind of things. But I'm living
proof that if you do something along these lines, you're
going to definitely notice it and it's going to improve
your life to some to My life could be improved
to a greater degree if I again started regularly exercising
and doing some of the other things, but earlier in
the program. So I hope I apologize for your lecturing
concerns there real quick, they're Keith, thank you. You had

(23:11):
mentioned this, and this came up during covid ivermectin and
and anybody who's uttered the word ivermectin at one point, Ah,
you're crazy. It's a horse pill. You know, this is insane.
Donald Trump, evil orange man. Because Trump said ivermectin out
loud a couple of times. I don't know. Pharmacies were
prohibited from even filling prescriptions for it, which is to me,
the intrusion into the doctor patient relationship like no other

(23:33):
I've ever witnessed in my life. But what's the story
with this stuff? What's I mean it does? It's it
goes after parasites, So how in the hell does ad
that was a design for treating animals and is a
proof for human use you mentioned, Keith, what the hell's
it got to do with this diet stuff?

Speaker 3 (23:49):
So regarding interesting Thomas Seafried said that he was going
to study ivermectin in the research back in twenty twenty
three for this particular situation, but it was too political,
so they chose me. Mendmond as all, which is similar
to fembindazol and ibmectin and albindazol, So they're all in
the same drug category. Yes, okay, they're basically anti parasitics.
And what what Thomas sefree came did to learn is

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that the same food source that parasites use is the
same food source that cancer uses. So basically, when you
have parasites, you're producing this cancer fuel and vice versa.
And so that's why there's this potential link between when
you have cancer you have parasites. But at the same time,
anti parasitics has off also been shown to actually disrupt
cell membrane and cancer as well. So glucose glutamine parasite food,

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glucose glutamine.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Cancer food in the in the the ivermectans of the
world block that reaction. So the same chemistry that parasites
use for energy is the same chemistry cancer uses.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
And so there chemistry thing that you like to take.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
This This is why I liked it what the whole
discussion is because it was extremely technical, but you understand
that this guy's looking at it from the equation of
chemistry and he's saying these anti parasitics are so parasite
stuff works because it's the same process.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Idiot Thomas no law or no, not licensed to practice medicine,
not even close. It's sort of an off label use. Yes,
ivermacinf and bendazel and the other ones were designed to
deal with, you know, parasites and animals, but humans can
benefit from these to get rid of their parasites that
might live in their body. But parenthetically, in addition to

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doing that completely separate from its anti parasitic function, it
also has the effect of impacting this this cellular relationship
between the cancer cancer as well.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
And then we get back into drug research and the
finances and the money behind that. You know, the whole
industry and these medicines has been around for a very
long time.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
So there's an incentive for the pharmaceutical company to diss
and otherwise belittle anybody who might mention it along these
lines because they have patented pharmaceuticals out there which nobody
would buy if they realize that these drugs did the
same thing and they're basically over the count do it back.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
And we also found an ivermectin was also anti viral
as well, and that was where the whole Fauci thing
came out, don't treat your COVID with horse medicine, you know,
And so I find that I'm also frustrated with the
medical industry and that doctors only are allowed so many
minutes per visit for their patients. At the same time
they have to push certain drugs or as they're getting dinged,
or they're not meeting this benchmark or this checklist. And

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I really would love for this whole industry to really
wake up. And I believe that physicians really want to
do what's best for their patients, but their hands are
being tied down by these financial obligations.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Well, the financial obligations, but separate from that, you know,
physicians are also influenced by social media, and if they
were to even suggest out loud the word ivermectin, they're
probably in a room with the patient who thinks, it's,
oh my god, horse pill. Didn't you hear what Fauci
said about the horse pills? And so they're going to
be met with that, you know, that wall of belief
that has been parroted since COVID nineteen was going right.

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I do give them propaganda, if you will, I do
give them credit. There The feedback that I'm getting from
patients is that the oncologists in the cancer areas are
starting to say, yeah, I mean, we hear a lot
of new things about ivermectin, and there seems to be
this open conversation starting to happen. They don't tell you no,
don't do it. Before they might have said no, no,
you don't want to do that, but now they're saying,

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go ahead, I'm not going to stop you. Maybe it
might work. Right.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
And the key point behind what we're trying to present
today is that that Thomas Seffree's work showed that when
you put people on a keto diet or a glucos
restriction diet, and at the same time, if you can
do gludamin blockers or in my case, supplements, you will
increase the duration of their life expectancy and quality.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
I mean, if you think about chemo, you've been through chemo.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
You don't feel chemo retuxin it was not a chemo agent,
thank god, But when you go through chemo.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
I've watched my father. I mean, the guy lost tons
of weight and so horrible when he died.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
It's this horrible process.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
This approach you feel better and better every day because
all of your other problems are going away a lot
along with the cancers.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
And you're not killing a good chunk of your body
that you really want to stay alive with the chemo.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
And Thomas Sifred also showed that radiation and chemotherapy increase
the fuel sources for cancer aka glucose and gludamine.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Oh wow, all right, one more bad things associated with
chemo seven forty seven. One more segment with the folks
from resore Wellness dot Org. After I mentioned Simney Care
Fireplace and so okay boiled down, have your chick the
talk station seven fifty one come up with some fifty
two fifty five ker CD talk station George Benaman, Keith
Tennefeld in studio and really enjoy these and I think

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I view them as inspirational, honestly, because again I give
you guys a lot of credit for me moving over
to a much much healthier diet, and I, honestly, one
hundred percent would not lie to any of my listening audience.
I do feel a hell of a lot better. And
again going back to the numbers I got for my
doc yesterday, for my physical they look great. I mean
a significant improvement over the by comparison over the years.

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So thank you guys. And again, the SEATS scan that
I most recently got showed that removing sugar from my
diet at least might have had the impact of making
the lymphodes get smaller. I can't give it one hundred
percent of credit, but what you guys are telling me
allows me to have greater confidence that the effort did
have an impact on the cancer.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
And that's kind of the bottom line is. You know,
when people are diagnosed with cancer, they feel the Angel
of deaths on them. Now that there's no hope for this,
we're not going to be able to do anything. The
bottom line is, no, that's not true anymore. There is
something you can do. Actually it doesn't cost any money.
It's it's changing your diet, exercise.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
There's no more mountain dew line it. I mean, your gross.
You're definitely not going to take everything that you wouldn't
be buying if you are eliminating sugar, like I went
so far as did not even eat barbecue sauce.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Oh wow, because you know it's got oh yeah yeah.
Or you can look for the ones adult which is
what we use. Yeah, it don't taste much. But the
key is it's up to you. It really is up
to you. You if you are diagnosed with cancer or
if you're just not feeling good, there you go. You
can try these things. They don't cost anything. They take
a ton of self discipline. I mean, one of the

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things that I liked that he talked about was the
idea that he's going to create this app.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Seafree is, oh, this doctor or the physician HD.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
So he's basically going to have a like a continuous
glucose monitor. So you put this the sensor on your
arm and the app tells you, hey, you can have
that donut. But when you look at the app after
you eat the donut, oh golly, my keytones went down,
my glucose went up. It's now telling me my cancer
is growing bright red. Oh are you gonna eat a
second doughnut?

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Now?

Speaker 2 (30:36):
No.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
But I mean it's like your parents standing in the
room watch It's like it well, right, only one well,
and the first place, it's not a death sentence, and
none of life shouldn't be a death sentence.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
I mean, yeah, we're all going to die at the
end of it, But how do you want to live? It,
How do you want to feel when you're eighty. I
always come back to my standard line is I want
to be able to get up off the floor after
playing with the grand kids, right, I mean, that's that's
the bottom line.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
But I thought, I think the reason that we don't
do these healthy options is because we lack maybe self worth,
self identity, whatever it might be. And so if we
can flip that and start doing self care, and we
start really dialing in and saying, I need to care
for myself in all the ways of my life diet, exercise, sleep, rest, relationships,
and really spend time dialing in and feeling that connection

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with the why you're doing it, the reasons why you're
doing it.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Well, you know, it may be boiled down to the
stuff just tastes so blank and good. I mean, diving
into a bag of nacho cheese door Itta is maybe
the idea of I mean someone's idea of heaven, and
I love it. Engineered to do that, I love right
right right, And see that's kind of how I've been
able to stay the hell away from It's like they
were designed to make you feel really elated when you
eat them. This is why I can't do you have

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to eat a whole bag of the damn things when
you all make.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
You feel elated and you're still hungry after you ate
the whole bag.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
And but see that if you know that that's stimulating
dopamine to make you feel better, the question is why
do you need to feel better that? I think if
we get through the root of.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
That, Oh oh, why why do people eat when they're
depressed or drink alcohol or do drugs or all these
other addictions. Yeah, so if we get to the bottom
of that, you personally identifying and I think it's I
honestly believe if you really want to get groovy, is
that there's something missing on the inside and trying to
fill it up with something else that makes them feel better.

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But once they start to love themselves and they start
to just really have this great relationship, they don't need
to be filled up with anything but themselves, and then
self care starts to perpetuate. George Keith, I appreciate what
you guys are doing. It's restore Wellness dot org. There's
tips information the podcast. They're going to be doing the
follow up podcasts, so follow George and Keith. And again

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Keith's with Root Cause, which is the name of his
business in Harrison, Restore Wellness dot Org. Keith and George,
Thank God for what you guys are doing. I appreciate
your influence on my life and diet, and I know
you're doing that for a lot of other people. And
that's why I'm so pleased to be able to bring
you in the morning show from time to time to
keep people on the right track or maybe get them
to try out going on the right track. Thanks. Thanks
for keep on having us out. Love it, man, absolutely

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love it. Learned something every week