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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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At oh six here, fifty five kr CD talk station
of a hair Very happy Wednesday to your bottom of
the hour, Judge editor Paul town here in the fifty
five KRC morning show every Wednesday, and right now sitting
in front of me. And what a storied family law
enforcement they have. It's the Neville family. You may have
heard of him, retired Captain Russ Neville in studio. You
may have heard of Rick Neville. He was a Hamilton
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County Sheriffs captain when he retired, and you may have
heard of their respective sister, Police Chief Teresa Thiji. Welcome, Russ.
It is great to have you in.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Right, Thank you, thank you, this awesome. Appreciate it, the
family appreciate it, and hopefully your listeners at the conclusion
this will conclusion of this will also appreciate it. From
the political perspective.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Well, and that's what I hope you can unfold for us,
because you know it's my favorite phrase anys like the
peace of God, it passes all human understanding. I can't
quite make heads or tails out of this, and of
course we're referring to Mayor Afteb provol and City Manager
Cheryl Long's decision to place Police Chief Threesa. Thiji on
paid administrative leave while this investigation goes on. And I'll
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let you speak to this investigation they've launched. Apparently they're
going to be looking through I guess with twenty twenty hindsight,
every single thing that Police Chief Thiji did during her
four years in the role of police chief between now
and December with some retained law firm from Columbus. So
we'll get to that in a moment, but real quickly here,
I want to thank you on behalf of the Greater
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Cincinnati Listening audience for what you and your family have done,
your career in law enforcement, your brother, and of course
Police Chief Thiji's career. She's been at it for thirty
five years. How many years were you on the since
an police department?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I did thirty four, Mike's, a retired captain, did thirty four. Rick's,
a retired captain with the county, did thirty. My son's
on oh left, we have nephews on My sister Joyce
retired after thirty or so, but I do want to
emphasize this. Thank you for mentioning it, thank you for
recognizing it.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
That's service man, that is.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
But Brian, this issue is absolutely not about the Neville
family or the legacy. It's nice to hear.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Is anybody suggesting that it is. I would like to
think not.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
No. I just want to separate it out that we
are here. We appreciate the recognition, but the focus here
is Terry and it is where we hope voters in
the city of Cincinnati specifically challenge themselves to be open
to an except new leadership and we can get further
into that and.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
We will definitely do that. Russ. The city's got a
problem with crime. I talk to people all the time,
you know, Yeah, it's a pain down there. Look what happens.
I mean, we got Holly getting clocked in the face
for no reason by some random dude that she wasn't
even doing anything but rendering assistance. We have a Sarah
Herringer who gets her husband's stabbed in there over the
Rhine apartment right in front of her. He died in
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her arms just a couple of and in addition to
all the gunshots ringing out all the other murders and
all the other mayhem, the violence of property crimes. Everybody's
saying we've got a crime problem downtown since that, except
may I have to have Parvoll, who up until about
five seconds ago kept going around. No, you have a
perception problem. It's a perception problem. So then police T
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three g gets thiet, he gets left that your sister
gets let go. I don't how can I connect this
and how is it that she's a scapegoat? She worked
for him.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Let me flow into this if we could, if we have.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Time, and I could interjet.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I want cover Terry's career just a little bit. Thirty
four years, A mom of four, grandmother and nine at
this stage, dedicated, committed, loyal, honest, direct and strong, and
she committed those years of this city and people that
are in position of authority now have elected to scapegoader
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and set that aside. I go back to it's not
about the Neville family. It's about the treatment of people
who currently in future desire to sit in that position
or other administrative positions such as fire chief. Those are
very very critical issues, and it's about dignity and respect.
We transition from that to the political element of it
family of eighty plus Brian forty or fifty or a
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voter age. We're Democrats in independence Republicans. We vote across
the board, we talk across the board, and we're fortunate
that we can do that as a family and still
get along and enjoy sitting down together. A point being
the mayor has failed in managing this city, and we
as a family for those that continue to vote in
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the city, in those otherwise in the county which it
reaches out to, in other elements, we recognize collectively that
this is about leadership change in the city. The mayor,
regardless of your party, this borders on inhumane the treatment
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of Chief Thiji, Terry Thiji, and he is leading this.
I don't care what anybody says, and we will wait
for other elements to come out as the lawyers on
their side and the lawyers on Terry side do what
they do, and we'll leave that process work itself out.
He's wasting tax dollars. It's the timing of the waste
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of tax dollars when the money's not there, the resources
aren't there. He placed her on leave, then hires a
law firm to conduct an inquiry it's a gross misuse
of resources. And the constituents deserve better. They deserve better.
And then when we get to the crime discussion that
you offered up with, this crime is an ebb and flow, Brian.
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Of course, you go back and look ten years, five years,
it's an Evan flow. Different neighborhoods, different neighborhoods gets hit.
You manage it, you control it, you put programs, you
put resources. Here's what gets me. There's fifty two communities
in this city. The mayrior didn't step up and say
a word, didn't take actions until it hit the central
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Business district, which it's a shame it has, and there
are plans and processes to improve that. What about the
other fifty one communities when he had an opportunity to
step up and make a voice and make a point
and try to do something silent? So who's he really
a mayor for? It's not for the city.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
No, clearly not. And I mean I could go straight
to the whole Hyde Park development project. He throws connected
communities over every neighborhood without consulting any local neighborhood about
its own personal self direction, then makes exceptions for well
connected developers. He did it to bond Hill. But then again,
he doesn't care what the constituents say. They scream out loud,
he ignores them. So I guess he's serving his own
political interest in his own whim. But back to the
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retention to this law firm. If you read the retention
letter or the information that came out about it, they've
been hired to look at her record. It sounds to
me like to find some justification letter go. He didn't
say out loud anything that she did to justify him
placing her an administrative leave in the first place. So
now he's got a search committee out there looking for
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something in a record so he can come back later
and fill in the blank. Oh yeah, by the way,
back in October, the reason I put her on an
Australa's leads because this thing she did two years ago,
which isn't even on her record right now.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
And it's interesting that you know, five eight nine days
before this came about, he stated to my brother that
there was no light between them, that he had full
confidence and faith and confidence in her.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
What happened, it wasn't Terry's performance. And it's asked backwards.
Anybody that pays attention or follows the treatment of people
or anybody's been in a management position, and those who
have been reporting to management positions, they realize that this
is backwards and will allow what they do to the
process to go forward. I don't see them finding anything
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in Terry's history that would be questionable to anybody, and
we'll see what Terry's attorney does with it from there.
But it's asked backwards. There's no better way to say it.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Well, and they've been down this road before. You made
mentioned briefly of the fire department. We all know what
happened to Michael Washington. Michael Washington's going to get a big,
fat paycheck complements of the city taxpayers as a consequence
of him being terminated without cause. This sounds like lining
up for number two. They are already demonstrably incompetent in
the treatment of him. Looks like let's gear up for
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another big check.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I mean, obviously I can't speak on the check, I
can't speak on the ligation, but I will say what
they're doing is wrong, it's out of line, it's inhumane,
and it's a combination of the mayor and the manager,
and for the mayor to set back and act as
if he doesn't have an influence on this or some
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involvement in this is a blatant lie to his constituents.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Blatant lied to his constituents. In studio, retired Captain russ Neville,
after a story curis insint Police Department from an amazing
law enforcement family, will continue talking about this issue that
we all can say something about because guess what the
elections next Tuesday, and you do have an opportunity to vote.
And remember the definition of stupidity is doing the same
thing over and over again expecting a different result. Forty
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years worth here in the city of Cincinnati. How are
your roads parenthetically eight fifteen station, it's eight nineteen fifty
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Neville continues even off air. That was where my chuckles
were coming from. Russ Neville, retired captain with the Cincinnati
Police Department thirty four years you said, that's just absolutely amazing.
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All right, insofar as police chief, Theji's concerned again, your sister,
and you're well connected with this issue because of some
family reasons, but simply because and by virtue of your
being a police officer. For so long you know exactly
how all of this works. Now, there was a day
prior to Issue five being passed where the collective, the
police officers themselves chose I believe, from among their own
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ranks who they wanted elevated a police chief. I think
the last person to have that was Chief Striker, correct,
And I guess politics being what it is, Striker was
immune from being let go for any reason whatsoever because
he was subject to the union benefits in the coructive
bargaining agreement. So they changed the law. Issue five was
passed that gives exclusive control over the hiring and firing
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of the fire chief and police chief to the city
manager and the mayor. Not even council gets to vote
on this.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
That's correct, So at least the manager. I don't know
what influence the mayor has, but by Issue five, if
I understand correctly, it's the city managers responsibly higher well.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
And I make the argument because the manager is at
the behest of the mayor, then we all know who's
ultimately pulling the strings here or operating the puppet as
the case may be. Fop nod. So something seems to
me out of this very politicized thing that's going on
to your sister, the political nature of her being well
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put on administrative leave, the wise of areforce. What led
to this when things seem to be so swimmingly wonderful,
but with their relationship, you need to be readdressed. Now.
I thought Christopher Smithman had a great idea, and I
know that you've I think you're in line at least
along in a similar path of Christopher's idea. Get the
council members involved on some level. What's your proposal? What
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do you think needs to be now?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
One hundred percent agree with what both Kenny Kober, the
FOP president, and Chris Smithman wisely have shared in some fashion.
The authority to hire and or fire or remove for
whatever reason, for just cause should be somehow placed with council,
such as a seven of nine or a unanimous voute,
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not a simple majority where you get five to four.
It should be a stronger. You're talking about people's livelihood.
You're talking about what impacts years of efforts and programs
and planning and resourcing. So it needs to be a
much deeper thought, and I think it has to go
in front of a body much larger than an individual.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Well, you said more than five, because, of course I
remember Gang of Five like it was yesterday, So you
can get some nefarious activity going on behind the scenes,
set up firing. That's correct, easy to accomplish. Most notably,
did you know that there's a vote next week? We
get to vote on Tuesday and maybe change the administration.
Most notably, since all of the current council members are
democrat the likelihood of a uniform one hundred percent lockstep
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vote is almost assured under the current circumstances. We really
do need some different voices, Russ.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
One of the reasons, obviously, the primary reason that I
come on and the family requests a voice is to
defend and support Terry. The second is to discuss voting.
There is there's no simpler way to say it than
the city needs new leadership, specifically at the mayor's position.
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Early votings on going, Brian. It's seven thirty seven thirty
Monday through Friday. If you want to early vote, early vote,
you've got time. It's open Saturday till four, open Sunday
till five. Please take advantage of the early voting. And
a point I'd like to make is if you have
voted in years for whatever reason, but you're registered. Just
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to go to vote Hamilton County, Ohio dot org and
see if you're still a registered and approved voter and
go vote. Nothing will change, whether it be city or
in the future county, but specifically, nothing will change city.
If the people who think this is wrong, if the
people who think this is in humane, or the people
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out there who hear what the mayor says and says
that's not the kind of leader I want leading our city.
Please vote. And I'm specifically talking to to some degree,
the West side of Cincinnati. I think the West side
of Cincinnati has an opportunity to protect themselves here. I
think they've been excluded from politics for quite a few years.
This is your chance to come out, make a vote,
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change leadership, and have a voice and a seat at
the table. In addition to the Hyde Parks and Mount
Washington's and Mount Lookouts, absolutely all fifty two communities, but
the fifteen on the West Side have been neglected. Brian
and I am begging them to come out and make
a vote.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, it's time to retake the flag over on the
west side. I believe so listen. I grew up on
the West Side I'm a delhesion by my roots man,
and what has happened over the years to you know,
Price Hill and Westwood, it's just deteriorated. And I'm not
blaming any particular individual, but it seems to me that
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the West Side's sort of been the I don't know
if I can put it this way, the Section eight,
you know, relocation area. I know they rehabilitated and gentrified
over the Rhine. A lot of former Over the Rhine
residents can't afford to live there anymore. They had to
go someplace. Don't know if that's an issue or not.
I just know the West Side does not look like
it did, say fifteen, even twenty years.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And I'll even take it a step further. I do
focus on the West Side. That's where we grew up
and I grew up, and I think we have tremendous
support there and I hope they come out and vote.
Let's go back to fifty two communities in the city.
They deserve better leadership as they do, and the only
way they're going to get is if they potentially step
out of their comfort zone and vote different than historically
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have voted and give somebody, a group of people an
opportunity to show more and better going forward for the city.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Well, I believe Corey Bowman does have prioritization, correct. I
know he is very anxious to get the road's resurfaced.
He's very anxious to do a better analysis of the
police department. Support the police, get the contingent of police
officers up to a full contingent. He would take the
resources I think offered from the governor to get us
to that contingent, to see if that solves the crime
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problem we've got going on here. At least try it.
Don't reimagine the police department. Just take up the resources
that you got in front of us. Let's see what
we can do.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
If you sit back now and you believe that things
are good, consider voting the way you've been voting. If
you think change needs to be either, don't vote for
the current leadership when you go to vote for council
meaning the mayor or I go back to come out
of your comfort zone. Try something new and let's see
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what we can do.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
There will be another election down the road. Give them
a shot. You may be surprised. Russ Neville, thank you
for your service to our community. Yeah, go ahead, finish
up if I could.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I just want to give a Facebook a name and
an email if people are interested in following up. I
Stand with Police Chief Thiji is the Facebook page, and
stand with chiefdig at gmail dot com. Stand with CHIEFDG
at gmail dot com is an email that has been
put out to help coordinate what we're attempting to do.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Help out all you can and vote russ Neville. Thank
you for your service to the community. Thank your entire
family for their service to our community, and of course
your sister for ongoing at least efforts to serve the
community while we have to deal with this current administration.
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