Sen. Rand Paul on with Brian Thomas this morning

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:48):
Seven forty one Happy Wednesday, Extra special Happy Wednesday, because
it's a pleasure for me to welcome back to the
fifty five KRC Morning Show from the Commonwealth of Kentucky
Senator Ran Paul. Senator Paul, thanks for joining the program
this morning.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Good morning, Brian, thanks for having.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Me multiple different assassination attempts on the Trump and I
understand that you've been looking into the first assassination attempt
by this misguided and deceased Crooks guy. What's the update
on that one and any insight into his motivation, because
we seem to have a pretty good insight into Ryan
Ruth's motivations, But how about the first assassination attempt?

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Senator much less on the motivations of the first one,
other than that maybe he was more of a glory
seeker that might have been inclined to assassinate either by
nor Tromp, So I think less specific and probably more crazy.
I would say, though, that what we've discovered and looking
into it, it's a tragedy of errors. I mean, not

(01:48):
just one error. It's just human failure after human failure,
secret service failures, you know, leaving the roof unattended. We
find no excuse for that. The roof is one hundred
and thirty yards away. When you see the perspective from
people who were filming on the stage behind Donald Trump,
it looks like the stage is even closer than that.
It looks like it's forty or fifty yards away. But

(02:10):
the idea that that roof would be left unattended, there
wouldn't be snipers on it. We also discovered that the
Trump campaign and the Trump's Secret Service had been requesting
counter snipers for months. Butler turned out to be the
first time the counter snipers were there. And thank goodness
they were there, because a shooter would have kept shooting.
If the counter snipers had not been there, it could

(02:30):
have taken another minute or two to neutralize the shooter.
We interviewed many, many agents, and we found that none
of them except the responsibility for being in charge. Nobody
appeared to be in charge. So you would assume that
if you're in charge of security for a big event
like that, the last thing you do is walk around
and say, there's nobody on that roof. How right, there's
nobody on that roof protecting someone from crawling up there

(02:53):
and shooting the president. And it would have been fixed.
But nobody really seemed to be in charge. And this
is a huge, huge erm. One of the biggest errors
is they saw this guy has creep for ninety minutes.
It took pictures of him. Half the damn local police
force had been told there's a suspicious guy out there,
It was eventually radio to the Secret Service, the head

(03:16):
of security and you know, the main security outpost that
was supposed to be in charge twenty seven minutes before.
But nobody thought, well, here's the guy with a big
backpack big enough to fold up AR fifteen into and
then also using a rangefinder. Nobody thought, well, maybe we
should ask Donald Trump to leave the stage until we

(03:37):
interviewed this guy or apprehend this guy. Nobody did that,
But then at the last minute, there stills a chance
to save people's lives. At six oh six, the crowd
is shouting man on a roof, man on a roof.
At six o eight, the police are shouting man on
a roof, man on a roof. The police are actually
running towards the man on the roof with guns drawn

(03:58):
the counter sniper season. But nobody says, well, gosh, with
all this commotion over there, maybe we should take the
president off the stage. Still, it doesn't cost anybody's mind
to take Donald Trump off the stage. And then between
six oh eight and six ' ten that message is
relayed to the head of security, the social security agents
supposedly in charge in the main tent, the control tent,

(04:22):
and that person doesn't get President Trump off the stage.
There was several minutes that could have occurred. We could
have been brought down the shots or at six eleven.
But at six oh eight the police are running towards
the stage. Everybody knows there's a gather root, and nobody
is saying, hey, why don't we take the president off
the stage. So just so many errors, one after another,

(04:42):
and just like Washington, they're going to fix it by
giving the people who made the failure. They're going to
give more money.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Well, I know the question that's burning in many the
minds of my listeners and me included. You know, it's
one thing to be negligent, and this is gross negligence,
if in fact it's gross negligence, another thing to create
an environment that will provide an opportunity for a guy
like this to shoot at President Trump. And you can
easily then say, well, sorry, it was a tragedy, but

(05:10):
we just screwed up. We were just negligence. We learned
our lesson and we're going to get better. We promised
and swear to God that we're going to. Is there
a nefarious element behind all these multiple layers of gross negligence?
Senator Ron Paul.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
I don't think so. I don't have any information to
say people did this on purpose. I do know that
they diverted resources that could have been there to protect
Donald Trump to the first Ladies event in nearby Pittsburgh.
And so you know, the question is, and that's a
judgment call. You know, who are the greater targets, the
principals running for office or their spouses. Now I'm all

(05:45):
for spouses being protected, but really it's a judgment call
on who needs more. I think the person running for
office probably needs more, because more crazy people are really,
you know, wanting to kill the actual candidates than they
are wanting to kill the spouse. I think that was
a judgment era. But the other thing is is take
the second assassination. It doesn't take a genius to walk

(06:07):
the perimeter. I mean, I think anybody could have walked
the perimeter. I could have walked the perimeter if they
told it. My job was to walk the perimeter of
the golf course to see if anybody suspicious there and
radio it in. Nobody was even doing that. That guy
was camping out there for thirty days, on and off
for thirty days. The day of the shooting. He's sitting
there for twelve hours on.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
A day where no one had Trump playing golf at
that golf course. It wasn't on his schedule. It was
my understanding from the initial reports, an unplayed event. So
how is it that he knew to reconnoiter that place
a month in advance and to be there twelve hours
in advance of Trump t and off.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
I think he probably didn't know it'd be my guess.
My guess is he was there every day because Trump
plays a lot of golf, and he's said Marlago a lot,
and so you can get from news reports that he's
in town, and I think he was just hoping to
catch him at the golf course. But the real error
is that, I mean, how hard is it. It doesn't
take fifty people to walk the perimeter. Two or three people.

(07:02):
Two or three local policemen could walk the perimeter. Even
a non policeman could walk the perimeter with the radio
and say, Hey, I see this guy. He's about thirty
yards from me. I'm not going to approach him, but
he looks suspicious when you come and interview him. I mean,
that's all it would take. But these are common sense
kind of things that need to be occurring, and instead
we get, oh, we just need two hundred million dollars

(07:24):
more and everything will be fine. Well, I don't think
you correct human error by keeping the same humans. I mean,
if you've got human air, you got to replace the humans.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Heads after all. I see, our government funding is going
to run in October. First continuing resolutions are discussed, and
you know, I talked to Congressom Massy about this. He said,
just pass a full one year continuing resolution because that
one percent cut will kick in automatically next year. That's
a way of cutting back. Or we could adopt your
sixpenny plan.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Yeah, you know, I'm not for shutting the government down
because it's chaotic, but I'm also not for keeping it
open and borrowing two trillion dollars. So a continuing resolution
basically bows to trillion and I'm just not for of that.
So I won't vote for the continued resolution. I will
offer an alternative. You know, we have a six trillion
dollars that we spend in government and they don't have

(08:13):
a budget, you know, so I will castigate both Republicans
and Democrats for not introducing a budget this year and
I'll introduce my own mind. Balance is the budget in
five years. The reason we do that is I think
you have to do it in a finite amount of
time to be believable. But also the balance budget Amendment
of the Constitution that most Republicans have said they support

(08:33):
balances in five years, and so they sometimes will pretend
and say, oh, we'll do it in ten and in
years nine and ten, we'll do X, Y and Z,
and they they'll never do it. So I would, you know,
say that we have to have this discussion. I'm going
to force them to do it today. They will vote
on mind, not because they want to, but because the
rules of the Senate say if nobody introduces a budget,

(08:55):
it's a privileged vote for any Senator to introduce the budget.
So I've done this only half a dozen times or more,
and we don't win. But we separate out and then
from the boys, from the patriots, from the swamp creatures,
and no Democrats will vote for it, and we'll split
the Republicans. We'll get about half the Republicans and then

(09:15):
the big government Republicans will all vote against my budget.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Make a note of it, folks, you'll see the true
stripes revealed today, Senator Ran Paul, always a pleasure to
have you on my program. Keep up the great work, sir.
We all are in the Morning Show, have your back
and enjoy and appreciate your efforts to right the ship.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Thanks for having me my.

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