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July 14, 2025 • 22 mins
Brian Thomas is joined by former Vice Mayor of Cincinnati Christopher Smitherman to discuss violence issues happening around the city
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Twenty Iffy above krc DE talk station Happy Monday made
extra special every Monday at this time because to hear
from the former Vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati,
friend of the show, personal friend of mine, which I'm
happy to say, Christopher Smithman with a Monday Morning Smither event.
Welcome back to my friend. I hope you had a
wonderful weekend.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
I did. Thank you so much, Brian, and I just
want to start off brother by addressing one of your callers,
but I don't want to. I don't want to stay there.
But you know, the notion that you are a racist
because you're right and you're talking about what's happening in
your city from a factual perspective is a way that

(00:40):
I think the left places this mindset of deflection. So
they really don't want you to talk about it because
it makes them feel uncomfortable, so therefore they start calling
people racist. The reality of it is, we have the
super majority of people in Cincinnati that are in gun

(01:00):
violence are African Americans period. And so if you looked
at a list at the end of the year of
how many people are shy, the majority of those people
are African Americans. We elected a mayor and a council
to help us solve this, and they're obviously not getting
the job done. What's frustrating for me is the election

(01:23):
is in November, and I just have the sense that
the Democrats in the city will do the same thing.
They'll vote for the same people on council, They'll vote
for the same mayor and get the same result. That
is what baffles me. But to the caller, I'm not
a racist. You're not a racist if he's not a
racist for trying to talk about these issues and to

(01:46):
try to identify solutions. One of those solutions is to
move away and city council has not done this, and
the mayor has not done this is move away from
the defund the police mentality or reimagine the police. So
our officers do not feel supported. What are ways the

(02:07):
mayor could do? What can he do to make the
police officers in Cincinnati, Brian Thomas feel supported? Go to
roll calls, do ride alongs, do a press conference with
your chief, say I support the police, I support them
doing proactive policing. I'm going to put them in visible
positions between the time of nine and three or four

(02:28):
o'clock in the morning. We're using our police visibility over
time in our hotspots, starting with our core of downtown,
and I want every officer to know that I support them.
This mayor, this collective council will never say that, Brian Thomas,
that is the problem.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Well so far they haven't, so it's a reasonable conclusion
for you to reach. And you know, I guess the
other component is if you if they're not calling you races,
they're gonna say, yeah, a lot of the violences in
the black community, a lot of the gun violences directed
are fellow black members of the black community. It's because
of the systemic problem we have. It's a systemic breakdown.

(03:12):
We've been underserved. It's a racist ideology that has led
our neighborhoods to this sorry state. And I just have
to kind of think about that and go, wait a second,
you've been neglected. Your elected officials have let you down.
Going to your point, Christopher, we'll quit voting for the
same people over and over again as you have been
doing for the last forty plus years. If you think
you're underserved, try a different path. But by being underserved,

(03:35):
if you just assume that as a fact, why would
that cause members within that community to start shooting each other.
What possible justification can being down on the socioeconomic scale
have to do with you going around and firing a
gun into a crowd full of people, willy nilly? How
is their connection there?

Speaker 2 (03:57):
And the other thing is why would the man and
the council tell you that downtown is safe, come on
down when every time I listen to your show in
the morning, I hear gunshot OTR Main Street, wherever the banks,
And then the mayor says, it's almost like it reminds

(04:20):
me of this, this this don't believe what you're hearing,
don't believe what you're seeing. The reality of it is
I am the former vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati,
and I'm uncomfortable going into my core downtown. The main
reason is I've lost confidence in the mayor and I've
lost confidence collectively in the city council. So why would

(04:45):
I tell my daughter, who I love, it's okay for
you and your friends to go downtown when they can
go somewhere else and be safe where there aren't the shootings.
You can go to Montgomery, you can go to Kinwood,
wherever you can go somewhere else where. You're not going
to get shot. That's the problem. And until the mayor

(05:07):
and the councilor who are on summer break, take this
gun violence series other than just holding a press conference
and saying listen, this is just your perception. Really, gun
violence is down and we're okay, nothing's going to change.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
A man, Let's bring Christopher back for another segment or
two as the case, maybe seven twenty five right now
if you have KSD talk station seven twenty nine on
a Monday, Brian Thomas with Christopher Smitheman doing the Smither event.
Christopher smith Man, what else is on your mind today?
My friend?

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Look, I just want to debunk this narrative that I
keep hearing Saved said over and over and over again
by really the Democratic Party are their representatives, and that
is and this is important that ICE agents are targeting

(06:02):
immigrants here in a very kind of random way. That
is not what is happening. ICE agents are targeting people
who have come into our country illegally, who are criminals,
that last word, criminals. The target on those who are

(06:23):
potential rapists or they have engaged in rape in their
own countries, murder, robbery, mayhem, whatever you want to gang members,
those have been the targets of ICE. But if they
go into an apartment and there are ten people there,
and let's just say three of them are women who

(06:45):
are girlfriends of MS thirteen gang members, they're all here illegally,
and they're all being deported. But there's notion and if
you're hanging with gang members, if you're, if you're, if you're,
if you're, if you're girlfriend, if you're the girlfriend of
an MS thirteen gang member, and you're in our country illegally,

(07:07):
I don't have any problem with you being deported for
this notion that liberal Democrats keep promoting that ICE agents
are here targeting, whether it's Cincinnati, Hamilton County, whether it's
parts of Kentucky, or whether it's in Texas. People that
are getting up every day going to work. Is just

(07:31):
absolutely alive. And it just infuriates me how the Democrats
keep pushing that narrative. And I just want to push
back this morning, saying, listen, I got a daughter, I'm
a girl dad, you're a girl dad. I don't want
it to be my scene where my daughter is out
taking a dog on a college campus and one of

(07:53):
these MS thirteen gang members, targets her, drags her into
the woods, rates here and murders her. We can be
this is what we call pro active policing. What ICE
is doing. These are people that came into the country illegally.
You broke the law. You broke the law. However, you're

(08:14):
a gang member, you're someone who murdered somebody, you rate somebody.
I don't want you here. I don't understand why the
Democrats are fighting so hard, Ryan Thomas, to keep people
like this in our country.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Well, and it's a losing battle for them. I mean,
I brought this up this morning on that that left
wing you know, a Democrat polster that did the poll
talking about how the Democrats, even their own are not
happy with their own party. Dissatisfaction rate is through the roof,
and they don't have any policies that resonate with the
American people in terms of immigration and enforcement of the

(08:50):
immigration policy. Trump ran on and he promised to do it.
His big thing from day one has been, you know,
build a big border wall and stop the flow uh
flow of illegal immigration that resi with the country. He
won the popular vote, he won the electoral college, and
he's fulfilling his promise, and still poll after poll after
poll shows that most Americans want to deport all illegal immigrants,

(09:11):
not just the criminal element among them. So the Democrats
can stream and scream and resist and go after ICE agents.
I think at all in yours to the Republican Party's benefit,
because that's not what the American people want, because most
people think, like you, Christopher, there but for the grace
of God go I and my daughter getting raped and murdered.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
It's all driving a car drunk, dui and you kill
an American family. You're in the country illegally, you're driving drunk,
and you kill our American family. I just don't understand
where Democrats are coming from, why this is such a problem.

(09:53):
And you now see on TV my icy someone shooting
at ICE agents over the weekend as they are identifying miners.
I'm going to get into the adults. Oh yeah, but
miners who are working on the farms. As an American,
we do not value working twelve and thirteen year olds

(10:17):
and fourteen year olds in a field. It's illegal to
do it. And so why would Democrats who say they
love children, they want to protect kids. All these children
who've been separated when they came into the country illegally.
Now we're finding some of them, and we're finding them
in environments on farms where they are being worked, which

(10:40):
is absolutely illegal.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Exploited and exploited. Yeah, I mean, there's children that were
found by the ICE agents are probably in a much
better situation having been found by the ICE agents than
they were as basically slave labor on the marijuana camp.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm understanding. We haven't heard Brian Thomas, one of the Democrats,
say that was wrong. Not one when the guy is
literally on the video shooting at the ICE agents. No
one said there's a fifty thousand dollars reward to find
out who that is. No one said we denounced that.

(11:18):
I'm trying to figure out, Brian Thomas, like you are,
what is going on with the Democrats and why are
they so silent and hell bent on keeping people who
are criminals in the United States of America. And I'm
not even getting into the politics that they say. I
agree with you, it's a very bad politics. I'm saying

(11:38):
the practicality of you and I who are girl dads.
These are people who are praying on our American women.
Clearly they are and they're killing them and raping them
and robbing them. Why would we want them in the
United States of America And why would the Democratic Party
push that kind of an agenda. Now, part of this

(11:59):
is if you look at MSNBC and you watch CNN,
they're telling you the opposite. They're saying they're deporting everybody.
You just show up to work and they grab you
off the street. That's how they're presenting it on their
on their media platforms. But that is absolutely not the truth.
And there might be someone who's listening to this who says, Wow,

(12:20):
I didn't realize that ICE is targeting their first group
of people. They're trying to put all their time and
energy and getting out the criminals. That's it.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, you're right. And the only I mean that, only
the defenseless, you know, mom, worker or whatever, who got
caught up in the entrapment because of they were going
after the criminals. That's the only thing that could possibly
resonate with the American people is well, that's not really
fair that poor woman's been here for twelve fifteen years
and she didn't do anything right. But if you peel

(12:52):
back the veneer of that, you see quite often it's
a circumstance like you're talking about where well she happen
to be an MS thirteen gang member's girlfriend. Let's bring
Christopher back because I think I might have the answer
to the question of why they fight so hard to
keep this all of the criminals as well as every
other illegal immigrant in the country. Pausible bring Christopher back
for another one. It's seven thirty six right now, fifty

(13:12):
five KRCD talk station. A strong recommendation, I think above
kr CD talk station, Brian Toomas here with Christopher Smith
Aman doing the Smith event and as to the wise Christopher,
I was thinking, you know, the Democrats fighting to protect
and keep every single illegal immigrant, criminal or otherwise in
the country. I think part of this has to do

(13:35):
with the fact that if you look at the Blue states,
you know your New York's or Illinois, you're California's.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
We all learned what happened after COVID. Everybody who could
get out got out. Their population numbers left. There are
numbers of people who make a lot of money left
the state for places with lower taxes and a veteran
regulatory environment. So they're hemorrhaging people who actually make money.
They got to keep their economy going. And the other
thing is they want to keep control of the UH.
They want to gain control old the House of Representatives.

(14:01):
That's a population driven thing, Christopher. And if you substitute
the US citizenry with a bunch of illegal immigrants, you
can maintain your numbers for the purpose of the census
and the number of representatives you have in the House.
And that's one of the things that they're desperately trying
to do. And I think that's part of the how.
I believe that the Texas governor and the Florida governor

(14:22):
kind of played into their hands a little bit because
they declared themselves New York, California, et cetera, a sanctuary
states or cities, which was an invitation for illegal immigrants
come here and we won't harass you or arrest you
or otherwise try to kick you out. We will not
cooperate with federal authorities. That's an invitation to come in.
And of course the governors of Texas and Florida played

(14:43):
into that by busting the illegal immigrant population to those destinations,
So they effectively boosted their population numbers pretty significantly with
the illegal immigrants, which may very well, allow them to
keep the number of representatives they have in the House.
Just a thought.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Well, first, I agree with you, and first of all,
I agree that it's a conspiracy. And part of that conspiracy,
what are the legs to the conspiracy is no ID.
You don't have to have an idea to vote. And
the way the Democrats tried to pimp it out is
to suggest that African Americans were not able to get

(15:20):
identification to vote. The target wasn't African Americans. The target
were the illegal people in the countries who they wanted
to vote. But they had to offend African Americans by saying, hey, listen,
so many African Americans can't get a state ID, so
many African Americans can't get a driver's license. There's no

(15:40):
way they can identify themselves when they show up and
vote as Americans, which I am an American in this country.
But the real conspiracy was to have that blanket conversation
so those people who were in the country illegally did
not have a requirement for identification. I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
You're onto something. So multiple layers of why they would
fight to keep all the illegal immigrants in the country.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Huh No, No, no, it's absolutely true. And as we
get to a close, you know, I try to have
public conversations with you, Brian, my white brother, about racism,
and it's very complicated. But what I will say to
you is that there are people who try to weaponize racism.

(16:30):
First of all, racism is real, just like sexism is real.
It happens in this country, sure, but there are people.
There are people who use that as a deflection. Okay,
So somebody like an Al Sharpton who says nothing about
the African Americans who are killing each other in these

(16:51):
major cities, whether it's Chicago, whether it's la whether it's
New York, right where he lives, you hear nothing from
his He lives no political capital for that bloodshed. But
once a white officer takes the life of an African
American who's a juvenile with a gun in a major city,

(17:13):
how sharply will fly anywhere to have that discussion. That's
somebody who is, in my opinion, off course, and who
is not helping solve these very serious problems that we're facing.
And it doesn't make a person a racist for articulating
that that is what is going on. You and I

(17:33):
are not dumb as my white brother, me as your
black brother, trying to solve these big issues that are happening.
But let's not say, you know, I'll never get on
your show and say, well, man, I've never experienced racism
or my kids habit or my parents have it. But
they're jerks all over the place. They are people that
are nuts all over the place. But the reality of

(17:56):
but the reality of it is, is that what you
and I are talking about, this uncontrolled epidemic of a violence,
violence that's happening in our urban course, specifically where you
and I live. We have a newter mayor and a
neuter council. They don't have the solution. And until we

(18:17):
elect people that absolutely care are willing to roll up
their sleeves, willing to do what it takes. And it
starts with empowering our police to do the great job
that they've been trained to do and back them up.
Every Monday morning, they're going to be errors out here.
You pull up to a car their tenant windows, you

(18:41):
don't know what the hell is going on in the car.
You ask the citizen please roll down your window. I
need to see what's happening in the front and the
backseat because somebody can have a gun pointed at the
officer and they don't do it, they don't comply. What
do you think is going to happen on that dark road?
Do you think the officer is going to die? He's

(19:02):
not going to go back to his wife, or she's
not going to go back to her husband. We're living
in this la la land with Democrats who continue and
it's so dangerous, Brian Thomas. It's so dangerous because it's
undermining our society. A society that refuses to support and
respect law enforcement is a lawless society. And we have

(19:25):
democrats out here, whether it's Ice, whether it's peace officers,
who continue to push that narrative. It is very, very
un American, and it is a big problem in our country.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah, and I'll go back there to the point I
made earlier, Christopher. You know, even if we have a
systemically racist society, which is what some of the you know,
like the sharpens of the world want to say, that's
the problem, that's the just that's the reason there's so
much gun violence in the black communities. I can't say,
how do you draw a line that connects those two?
What injustice justifies you going out and like firing a

(19:58):
glock with an extended mass magazine into a group full
of your own people. I mean, how do you connect
the dots on that you don't random indiscriminate violence, deadly
random indiscriminate gunfire.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
It is. And let me also, I guarantee you that
Al Sharpen and people like him all have bodyguards. Oh yeah,
guarantee it. I guarantee that they are always under guard,
whether it's a personal home, whether it's when they walk
out and get in their vehicle and they go somewhere,
they're surrounded by people with guns. They're not you and

(20:35):
I out here every day just trying to go to
a ball game or go down to the banks and
have a beer. And we don't want people just spraying
bullets into the crowd in an indiscriminate way. And the
other thing is we're not even hearing about the assault,
meaning we're focused on the shootings. We're focused on the murder. Yes,
there's another level down. That's the couple that's just walking

(20:57):
down the street, comes out of the restaurant and they're jumped. Yeah, yeah,
that's also happening. Brian Thomas.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
It is happening. It's happening a lot, and that's one
statistic I think that everyone can uniformally agree has gone
up a lot. Yes, which is free that it has.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
But you're not a racist. The caller who called in
isn't a racist for talking about these issues and then
asserting and talking about what they think the solutions are.
Meaning one of them is broken homes. Obviously parents, dad
being involved. So we've got to do a better job
in that area. That's obviously one of the solutions. Police

(21:36):
officers and supporting cops, that's obviously one of our solutions.
But the reality of it is you and I talking
about it and highlighting it doesn't make me and Uncle Tom,
and it certainly doesn't make you a race.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I appreciate that just confirming everything I personally believe too.
I'm happy to get on and talk about it because
I know I'm not a racist. God bless you, Christopher Smith,
and look forward to next month day another event. Have
a great week, my friends. Seven point forty nine coming
up at seven fifty fifty five Krcity Talk Station

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