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September 22, 2025 25 mins
Brian Thomas is joined by Christopher Smitherman.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Seven, twenty one, fifty five kr CD talk station, continuing
the female on fifty five KRC Morning Show. Ever, youn't
be Monday at this time, we hear from the former
Vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati. Candidate from the
City of Cincinnati. Don't vote Democrat, you can vote independent
and get a great candidate in the form of Christopher Smithman.
Welcome back for the Smither event. It's always great having
you on my friend.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Oh, thank you, Brian. First, let's start off with the
most important thing. Happy belated birthday, you know. And one
of the things that you said last week going into
your birthday was how you were embracing it. And it
is amazing how when we get older and I'm right
behind you on turning sixty, I've got a couple more years.
But the reality is I'm right there is you know,

(00:44):
you're comfortable in your own skin. Yeah, and it really changes.
And I used to, you know, be on a beach
and I'm looking over at an older dude. I go like, right,
why are you wearing that? Now I am that older dude,
and I'm like, you just don't care, Like I don't
care what you think about me, Like you think whatever
you want. I can have hair all over my back,

(01:05):
all over my belly. You know, I can put on
a speedo and walk right into the ocean. And I
really don't care what you think. As you get older,
you just get so much more comfortable with your body
and who you are and what your positions are. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
No, you're no longer a slave to fashion, and you
know your you know, hopefully you know your mind, and
you're in touch with your convictions well enough that you're
you're you're solid in those as well. And I've been
there for a long time. But in so far as
the other things are concerned, Yeah, it takes a while.
I called it. I figured out at one point I
can exhale, don't. I don't walk around with the intention
of a younger man anymore, you know, worried about what

(01:42):
you're worried, worried about your future, worried about if you're
gonna be able to afford take your can get your
kids through school, you're gonna afford to be able to
retire all that, you know, all that worry of noory
and worried if you've done it right. You get to
a certain point you're like, you know what I'm good.
I'm content, contentment, having an embracing contentment.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
It's like, just like I don't want anything else. I'm
just happy the way I am. We just want to
call it a day so it lets me just sort
of enjoy my life in spite of the fact that
you know it's not everything's always perfect, but I just
care so much less about it. And yes, you make
fun of me for wearing birkenstocks. I wear them all
the time. I know it looked like an idiot, but
you know what, They're comfortable. They're comfortable.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
But that's what happens. Man. But anyway, happy aclated birthday
to you. And I know your family, your kids, and
your wife and your mom and everybody just spoiled you.
I know you you got a lot of love and you.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yes I did.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
I got spoiled big time. But my son even cut
my grass, so I was really happy about that.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Oh wow. I know it's a little things in life, man.
Just you know, you're just like, wow, you cut my grass.
I don't have to do it like I just on
your birthday. You just want to wake up and just
have Pete. That's it. I just want Pete.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
I did I did wake up.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Happy birthday.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Thanks man. It's great. It's great, it really is.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Look, Brian, my heart is just it continues to go
out to what happened, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and
the world is talking about it, and he's deserving of
me to talk about it. And I've heard, I've been
listening to your show and you've been talking about it.
But I just want to reflect on a couple of things,
and I just want to say in publicly because I
think it's important in being one of many leaders in Cincinnati.

(03:22):
It is never acceptable to make fun of the assassination
of another person. It's never acceptable. There's nothing funny about it.
It doesn't make sense. You're not embracing humanity. And so
if you're a person that has posted something on social media,
or you've told a friend privately that somebody had what

(03:44):
was coming to them, or you liked something that was bad,
there's something wrong with your heart. It's not a reflection
of Charlie Kirk or Erica Kirk, or Erica Kirks and Charlie,
her two children, or any of the people around him
that loved him, his mom and dad, is, friends, etc.

(04:07):
It's a reflection on you. And so there might be
somebody listening and saying, hey, you can turn your leave
today when you can unlike something, you can say something positive,
you can turn your life over to God. You can
do any of those things. But I just want to
denounce anybody who thinks the assassination of anybody, but particularly

(04:27):
an American citizen by someone who is this deranged thinking
that it's okay. I want to denounce it. And there
is a connection, in my opinion, on something directly at
City Hall, and that's when the President pro tim made
the comments about Holly and those others that were ambushed

(04:49):
in our downtown where the person said, hey, this member
of council City Council said she was begging for it.
They were begging for it, and then doubled down on it.
And see, we don't understand on this continuum of dehumanization
that you start doing stuff like that and then you
get the assassination. That's the warning that people are trying

(05:10):
to make when you say, hey, this person is Hitler. Right.
One of the things I can absolutely say with certainty
is that the President of the United States of America
is not Hitler, has never been Hitler has nothing in
common with Hitler, and someone saying that right makes a
person out there that's deranged to say, well would I

(05:30):
what do I need to do to stop Hitler. That's
the problem with what's happening with those who are making
those comments, and it's enough is enough. I'm tired of it.
I'm tired of listening to it, I'm tired of watching it,
and I'm tired of those in the media who are
trying to make excuses about it. I thought that Erica

(05:51):
Kirk her speech, everybody should take the time doesn't matter.
This is not about politics. It's about humanity. It's not
about politics humanity. Just listen to the widow's speech that
she said, I stand my forgiveness to the man who
assassinated my husband, she said, which is very hard for

(06:11):
someone to say, you know what I mean. Also also,
oh yeah, she also said, we got to take the
next step forward. I mean, you have a beautiful wife,
Paul Atte. You know something crazy like this happens to you,
not calling on it to your listening audience. Brian is
a public figure. He's up, he's a public figure. But
my point is I'm a public figure. I put myself

(06:32):
in the bubble. No one is going to feel good
and no one should should relish in anybody's assassination. That's
Brian Thomas My first rant. I don't understand that.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Can you help me?

Speaker 3 (06:46):
I'm with you all day long. Christ We'll bring him back.

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Speaker 2 (08:06):
Look, brother, you know I just went away in on
a national story and I rarely do it, but you
know this whole thing with Kimmel, and you know him
being removed from this show. Look, let's let's be clear.
The reason he's being removed has nothing to do from
what I'm seeing, is his ratings. That's a kind of
a second story. And I don't know anything about his ratings.

(08:29):
By the way, so I don't even want to speak
about it, but it was his comments about the assassination
of Charlie Kirk And so you you have your First
Amendment right to your listening audience and anybody else who's
tuning in. I'm one of the regulars to your show.
I listened from five to nine and love your show,
love you, love your points of views. But guess what,

(08:49):
Brian Thomas can't say whatever he wants to say under
his First Amendment and expect to have his job on
Monday morning. There are boundaries for all of us. And
so making mockery of this man's assassination is what got
him in trouble, and then saying he lied about the
person who shot him. I don't even like saying his
name because I don't want to bring notoriety to the shooter.

(09:12):
But the reality is that the person who assassinated Charlie
Kirk Kimmel lied about it. And he said that the
person who did it was a MAGA person, a MAGA supporter,
which is absolutely another lie. And I think that ABC
and their affiliates just said we can't take it anymore.
I mean half of the country are more so many

(09:32):
young people right we're so engaged with Charlie Kirk. People
who are listening right now, you might not have ever
heard of Charlie Kirk, but your children knew Charlie Kirk.
Your young adults knew Charlie Kirk. Right. So the reality
of it is for ABC, probably it came down to business.
They said, listen, we can't have half of America or
all of these young people who are probably independent and

(09:54):
they're trying to figure out their political positions, that you're
here saying almost like he deserved to die like everybody else,
he had it coming to him. And then you are
basically saying something about MAGA and in relation to who
actually assassinated Charlie Kirk. That's why he was removed and
anybody listening. Brian Thomas has a dump button there. He

(10:18):
is dump but with me that you just can't. You
just can't come on this radio show and say whatever
you want to say. He has a big button there
that he can say no, that can't go across the air.
Why do you think he has that there public because
you have your right, your First Amendment right. But he
has bosses, he has regulators who are listening to the show.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
See FCC.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
You can't say anything you want to say across these airways?
Am I correct? Brian Thomas?

Speaker 1 (10:46):
You are correct, And you know the only time I
ever used the dump button, it hasn't been for some
some utterance that I disagreed with. It's been only because
someone dropped an F bomb or an S word or
something that.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Violates the SEC's rules.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
So I got this like minute delay and you hit
the button and you lose a minute's worth of content.
But that's the price you pay on the morning show
when you use foul language. But beyond that, you can
articulate some sort of political position I disagree with. But
I'm like Charlie kirk Man, I take all comers. I
you know, people know where I stand from. I'm in
favor of freedom, freedom, freedom, freedom. That's that's where I

(11:21):
fall down on the word freedom. And that means that
I have to embrace and live among people who I
disagree with. But I can and I am capable of
doing that because we live in a free country, wheld.
I'm allowed to believe and assert my positions and engage
in conversation and support of my positions, and you can
feel free to have yours and if we can engage
in a healthy debate, walk away at least not angry

(11:44):
with each other, that's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yes, But what you're saying is there is no place
for a political violence.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
No, there is.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
There is no place for a political censorship. If we're
not the UK, we don't want the police showing up saying, oh,
I saw you like something on social media. I'm here,
help your phone, here to arrest you. It's not the
world that we live in in this great experiment called
the United States of America, where there's a democracy, but
at the end of the day, there is no place
for political violence. Right, And so there's notion that I'm

(12:14):
watching here with the with the Democrats and the Republicans,
you know, some of the debates that they're having, even
in Congress. I mean, I couldn't imagine calling for a
moment of silence, right, And you have fifty something people
Democrats who say, we're not even gonna have a moment
of silence for this for this man who is assassinated.
Like that's how far gone we are. A lot of

(12:36):
people don't even know what I just said. Yet. Members
of Congress recently voted no on a moment of silence
for the assassination of Charlie Kirk. If you're a person
out there listening to me and you think that that
was okay, there's something wrong with your heart, there's something
wrong with your mind. You need to get yourself together,
because you know there's no harm in extending a moment

(13:00):
of silence. One of the biggest lies that I keep
hearing about Charlie Kirk and that was he was a racist,
or was he engaged in and he didn't like women,
all that kind of stuff. And you heard what his wife, yeah,
Widow said yesterday, right, he didn't. I mean, that's one
of the things that I think she's getting out about
their relationship because one of the big lies that you've
heard over the last eleven or twelve days is that

(13:23):
he didn't like women. Misogyny or that he was a racist,
and that were racist and misogyny and not liking women
is being thrown around, and that's why it's losing its power.
It's losing because racism is real, misogyny is real, and
so you don't want to just walk around calling everybody
you don't like women or you're a racist because they

(13:44):
have a different political perspective than you have Brian Thomas.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
You water down that argument to the point where you
actually are confronted with genuine racism, and people don't believe
it when you bring it up again because you've beaten
that horse so long. There's not much left of the carcass.
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sous with Christopher Smith Avan do what we call this

(15:15):
smither event at Vote smith Aman on X. I'm glad Christopher, Christopher,
where can people get a yard sign for your campaign
for sin Sei City Council before we move on with
your other comments this morning?

Speaker 2 (15:26):
They can come to our office at seventeen o three
Dale Road and pick up a yard sign, or they
can come to Jim and Jacks fifty pick up a
yard sign. Or they can inbox me on that at
Vote Smithvan with their address and we'll deliver one. But
let me share some good news with you. You know, out
of this crisis, this assassination of Charlie Kirk, the interest

(15:49):
in my campaign has accelerated dramatically, and I don't know
if that is true for other campaigns. And for example,
my daughter who goes to see high school, got five
or six requests last week from her friend sang, I
would like your dad's my mom and dad want your

(16:12):
dad's yard side? Will you bring them to school to
give to me? That has never that has never happened.
And so what is happening right now is the way
people are going and taking action, like for turning point
is they're saying this is a turning point. And I'm
no longer going to hide my perspective or my politics

(16:34):
or my positions. I'm gonna tell everybody where I am.
And so what happened last week is we're almost running
out of yard signs. I mean they're just going off
the shelf like in this extraordinary kind of way. I
mean big signs, small signs. I want to get involved.
What do I need to do? And I'm just sharing
with you. I know that energy is coming from the

(16:55):
assassination and of Charlie Kirk. And I'm sharing with everybody
this would it's really a turning point in our local election.
I think we're going to see akickup with young people
who are registering to vote in their families, people who
might have said I'm gonna stay home because you know,
voter turnout tends to be doesn't even tend to hit

(17:16):
the teams in the city of Cincinnati, like eighty percent
of people stay at home who are registered to vote
in local elections. I don't think that's gonna happen right now.
I think you're going to get a tick up and
people saying, no, I'm going to go out there and
vote based on what happened in this assassination with Charlie Kirk.
I'm going to turn something negative into something positive. I'm
gonna make lemonade. I'm gonna do something. I'm gonna take

(17:37):
an action. And one of the things my late wife
used to say, love is a verb. I'm just sharing
with you. I don't know if that is actually true.
It could be that we're just getting closer to the election.
In early voting on October the seventh, Brian Thomas, but
I can tell you there has been an energy kickup
in interest around my campaign and it is directly correlated, unfortunately,

(18:00):
with the assassination of Charlie Kirk. No, people are pissed
off and they're saying, what can I do to get
involved in I don't care what my neighbor can. My
neighbor can have whatever perspective they want to have. Matter
of fact, I was doing a door to door and
the guy said, I have my American flag up. If
people are running around calling me a racist because I
have the American flag up, you know what, I'm going
to put a second American flag up. This was just this.

(18:22):
We can't and I'm saying people out there are saying, no,
I have the right to express myself under my First
Amendment right. I love my country. I'm putting the American
flag up. But yes, there are people still, there are
people in our country who think if you fly the
American flag in some way, it makes you a bad person.
Brian Thomas, We've got to move away from some of
this crazy and I think it's going to show up

(18:43):
in the upcoming election.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Well I think it will too, Christopher. But maybe a
divine intervention here in terms of timing, if you want
to put it that way. But yeah, I certainly appreciate
that Charlie Kirk's assassination and this response to it, as
exhibited by the vile calm from the left and people's
pointing to Charlie Kirk's actual message as opposed to some

(19:04):
sound bite. They sounded a meme suggesting he's a racist
engaging in thoughtful debate. All these illustrations out there of
this thoughtful debate he engaged in. And I think there
is a desire across our country to end this this
vile division we have.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
So you got that.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
But then also city issues have come home to roost
for city management right now. The real estate problem, bond Hill,
Hyde Park Square, the one size fits all approach until
it doesn't fit all, and then they offer, you know,
waivers for well connected developers. The roads were four hundred
million dollars behind in road repairs. Everybody's got a road

(19:39):
they drive on that is in miserable, miserable state, like Sunset,
for example, which has been that way for deck more
than a decade. The police and crime situation, which impacts
every person regardless of political stripe. They're not happy with
the response from the administration. You know, you got av
tab Purvoll coming out saying he's accepted all this love
from Columbus, and it turns out it's only two days

(19:59):
per month that he's accepting additional law enforcement resources in
spite of the unlimited nature of the offer. People are
upset about that. So you know that maybe the timing
is perfect for this, as sad as that reality is,
maybe it's just one more thing to urge City of
Cincinnati voters to choose a different path.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, and to get off the sidelines. And they're saying, hey,
there's something that I can do. And I heard Corey
Bowman indicating that turning point. You know, if you go
look at his page, you know they're getting involved and
they're starting to engage his election. You know that's that's encouraging,
but very dangerous for the mayor because you know, the

(20:40):
reality of it is if young people wake up and
I'm talking about young people who love God, are families
who love God? And let me also say this, because
this notion of racism is also being thrown around or
you're a racist, but Uncle Tom is also being thrown
around as it relates to Smitherman as really and I
want to speak to it, you know, this notion that
because I speak out against fatherless homes, meaning I say,

(21:03):
I don't care whether you're white or black or Latino.
If you have a baby and you're not taking care
of your child, I have a problem with that right.
If you're way behind on your child support, I have
a problem with that right. And so that's an example.
If I say, hey, it's great to go to church.
I love God. I think it's great that you say
the Pledge of Legiance, which is what I had to

(21:24):
do when I was in school. Or you take your
hat off and you stand when someone is when the
national anthem is on. And I love my country, And
if you don't like the country and you hate it
so much, get the hell out of our country. You
don't have to be here. Nobody's asking you to be here.
I'm just saying this word. You're a conservative, and they're
trying to connect that with conservative being racist or conservative

(21:46):
being an uncle Tom. I'm just sharing with you, like
the things that I talk about are like common sense.
I'm saying I don't want dudes in the locker room
with my daughter or anybody else's daughter. That doesn't mean
I'm against the Gate Commune. It means that I don't
want dudes in the locker room with my daughter's period.
We just moved away from period. We just moved away

(22:07):
from common sense, and people who speak common sense and
have experience are now called conservatives. I just don't know
how to define it. But you know, I walk up
to people and I'm like, you say, you know you're
not going to go for me? Like, what do you mean?
I got five kids, I got four boys, they are
all doing well. You know I would I stay engaged
with my children. You know, I've raised them, every child

(22:27):
that I've ever had, I've taken care of them. You know.
I loved my wife. I support my community. You know,
I'm a small business owner. I pay my taxes. You know,
I don't know what more you want from me. All
that you have represent you.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
They want you all to represent you.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
No, they just want to take what you've got from you, Christopher.
They don't want to elect you. They just want to
take your stuff and things. Maybe at the bottom of
this all, Christopher, as you talk about your situation, the
positive life that you've lived and the results of that positivity,
all the success you've had as a father and a businessman,
and as a politician, I think they're just jealous.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Christopher.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Maybe that's what it all boils down to, just outright
flat green or envy and greed for what you have
that they want to take away.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Well, Brian Thomas, you're successful. Your listeners, many of them
are successful in the world. But it's hard work, right,
It's not making excuses. Racism is real public right, but
it's just it's just a way to cheat and and
and in a game of life, you got to get
around people who want to cheat. But to act like
with this, with this broad brush that white people are

(23:37):
waking up every day trying to figure out how to
destroy black people is insane because they're not right. If
that's not what's going on, the reality of it is
is when you get up every day, you go to work,
you save your money over a long period of time,
you participate in your four oh one k R four
O three d R I RA whatever it is, that
those are self choices that you have to make to

(23:58):
make sure that you're ready for your retirement. In your life,
you coming home to your wife and making sure as
as Erica Kirk said, I heard your commentary earlier saying
what a beautiful thing. How what can I do for you?
How can I make your life better? As as her
husband in the Love notes her as a husband right

(24:20):
in the Love Notes that he was leaving her, it
wasn't that a great example? These aren't concerned principles in
my mind. This is just basic common sense of how
to stay married, how to love your wife, how to
love your children. My point to you in conclusion with
this is I am very connected to my community, as
anybody else is. I want to be a positive role model,

(24:42):
not a bad role model. I want to make sure
that I am in the lives of my children and
that I invest in them, even though many of them
now are adults. Except my daughter. I don't want I
don't think that's as negative in the election. But guess what,
there are people out there who believe that it is.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
That's the same, that's that's it's it's a real shame.
Christopher Smithman will hear from you again Next Monday. Get
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