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(01:19):
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Welcome back, Steve. It's a pleasure to have you on
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Speaker 3 (01:28):
It's an honor to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Brian good Mornick, I appreciate you saying that that's kind
of you Iris Rawley making the news, and of course,
as a candidate for CINCINNTI City Council, this obviously is
important to you. We learned recently that she just renegotiated
her contract with the city doing some consulting work independent consultant.
Apparently five hundred and seventy thousand dollars is the value
(01:49):
of the contract. And we also learned just recently that
she hired her convicted fell son to work on this
government Square program to help distress you avoid crime. He's
paid four hundred or forty four hundred dollars a month
for this, which some people are calling foul because it's
clearly nepotism and a city employee would be subject to
(02:10):
nepotism rules and would never be hired under these circumstances.
So break this down for us, Steve Gooden.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Well Bry This one is yet another reason why people
are so cynical about.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Doing business with the city.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
It's because you know, the rules just simply don't apply.
I mean, just to put it very very quickly, if
you are a full time government employee in Ohio, whether
you work for the city or not, there's some pretty
stringent ethics rules, and nepotism is one of them. You
can't just turn around and give a job to your son.
(02:46):
But if you're a contractor for the city, there are
no rules.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
What the State of.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Ohio says is look, independent contractors should be policed by
the city and each city should pass their own rules
and moost. Big cities like Cleveland and Columbus have Cincinnati
has not. There are no background checks required, there are
no nepotism rules, there's nothing. They just handed you the money,
and in a case like this, I think everybody in
(03:14):
City Hall knows why miss Rowley was hired here. She
did some work over the years back on the police
collaborative that even a lot of police officers I know
have actually over time come to embrace. But in this
current role, she is there to run political interference from
the mayor whenever there is some racially charged issue or
(03:35):
a police shooting or something of that nature. She has
other responsibilities on paper, but that's really why she's there.
And of course they just handed this money to her
every year with no oversight, with no metrics, with no checking.
And obviously City Council has never, after all these years,
bothered to pass any kind of ethics rules. And I
(03:56):
approached this when I was on council. You get a
very negative react. And there is this whole ecosystem of
politically charged contractors and some contractors that no one wants
to touch, because if you did, you would see I'm
sure things worse than this, where the contracts are given
(04:17):
out for latly political reasons, and it's just another reason
why people have no faith in that place.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Well, and I've observed many times and no disagreement from
folks like you, Christopher Smithman anybody else I've talked to
you that has some connection with city council. It's these
non governmental organizations that are so damn powerful in terms
of a number of people they have a measure of
control over. So if you terminated Iris Rolly's contract because
it's too expensive and maybe there aren't they aren't achieving
(04:46):
some metrics with whatever work she's been paid to do.
This is a pointless program. They haven't delivered on success.
Here's for all the reasons we're cutting you off. Then
anybody who would consider doing that are going down that
road is going to get attacked by all of the
minions that say Iris Roly has control over. Those are
a lot of votes that might might go a different
direction at Iris Rolly's behast.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Well, that's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I mean, I mean she's politically powerful. And look, you know,
I've taken a risk by talking about it. You know,
I've been told by many of my political advisors saying, like,
what you can't, you can't call this out. You're gonna
lose support. She's gonna whip up support. And they do.
They actually have this whole you know, what they call
a troll farm of people that are out there on
on Twitter and on Facebook that as soon as you
(05:33):
criticize one of these agencies, you know, they have planted
people out there criticizing you, call it you racist. Everything
becomes a racissue the second you even begin to talk
about ethics and you know, really, you know it really
is is you know, from a mythological terms, Brian, it's.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Like a mini headed hydrage.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
You cut one of these, you know, consultants or nonprofits off,
there's another one that grows in its place. This has
really been going on for almost thirty years or so.
It's how patronage works in cities. They no longer give
you patronage through a full time job because we do
have some civil service protections and Ohio does require all
(06:11):
full time inunicibal employees to a buy by ethics rules.
But you hand the contract to your friends who work
in a nonprofit, or who form a nonprofit, or who
just in this case declare themselves to be a consultant.
You hand the contract to your friends that way, and
the rules don't apply. And it's a huge loophole. And
that's how the money moves at city hall. It's an
open secret. Nobody talks about it until something like this
(06:35):
really just comes out in the public and it can't
be denied.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It cannot be denied. We'll continue our conversation with Steve
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continuing with this conversation on Irish Roly, I have to
observe that political power that I will acknowledge she has
and a lot of supporters and followers who might vote
at her behest. That's the concern many council members, and
(09:22):
of course the mayor has, alienating these powerful, politically connected individuals.
But that only works in a city where only twenty
five percent of the people show up, right, Steve, that
twenty five percent makes up the power that they wield,
does it not? Or am I on the wrong page?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Steve?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
I know, I think you're absolutely right. I mean, we
traditionally do have low turnout elections in the city of Cincinnati,
which means that somebody, you know, like Miss Rowley and
in that can in her like circles of power, can
really have an impact. If you drive five or six
thousand votes, that makes a difference. Now, you know, this
year is I think going to be very very different.
(10:05):
I mean, I think there is a strong sense out
there the city's.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
On the wrong track.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
The early numbers that we're seeing in terms of absentee
vote applications and requests are very strong, and frankly, it
looked as though a lot of Democratic voters are not
sending out their requests or at least they're sending them
out in lower numbers, and Independents are sending them out,
(10:30):
you know, almost forty percent more than incomparable years. So
I think there is a huge amount of discontent, and
I do think you're going to see a pretty strong
turnout here, maybe not a record turnout. We usually there's
there's state issues and so forth that have driven the
record turnout, but for a purely local election, it looks
like an awful lot of people are coming out this year.
(10:50):
So you know, we're going to try to do the
right thing. We're going to try to speak out on
the issues that we think are correct, regardless of whether
it is politically in the moment, and we're just hoping
that the average voter who we're out talking to, who
seems to have had it, are going to turn up
no matter what. And this is going to be one
of those years where the people who are traditionally kind
(11:15):
of whipping votes out of small segments of the community
aren't able to have their.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Set well on the campaign trail, what are the repeated
issues that keep coming up, Steve? What are people telling
you that needs to be addressed by you if, for example,
you're elected to since a city council.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Well, I mean they.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
All really focus like in three big areas. I mean,
one is obviously crime. There is just this sense that
the city has become less safe and more violent over
the last four years, and I think the numbers back
that up. You know, there is this kind of this
kind of disgusting tendency that's coming out.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Of city Hall.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
To try to quibble about the stats and argue about
how the crime data is collected, but there is no
question property crimes are, murders are up, shootings are up.
We are on pacet at twenty three thousand recorded shots
on our shots Spotter technology around the city. It's twenty
three thousand shots in the city of not quite three
hundred thousand people.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
It's absurd.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
The second one is, you know, we really do have
a form of a housing crisis here. It's hard to
build new housing, it's hard to rehab there is so
much red tape. The city wants to incentivize new housing,
but then also even market rate housing, but then stumbles
over itself and it's truly bad that way. And third
of these quality of life issues, graffiti, litter are the
(12:37):
state of our roads. Just as there's this sense that
we're so busy with things like the Irish Roly Contract
and all these sort of politically correct programs that the
city's taking its eye off the ball when it comes
to just basic city services. You hear that over and
over and over again. I mean, I was at a
candidate forum last night and a city council me, Mark
(13:00):
Jefferies is trying to explain to this crowd over at
Elder High School that that he has a program where
they're now kayaks that the city has bought for will Creek.
And we could see the people are like, but there's
top holes everywhere. I mean, like, we don't want the kayaks.
Why the city's in the kayak business? I mean, I
mean it was it was just that if I could,
if I could take one moment out of this, it's
(13:21):
this guy is Mark Jeffers, and he's very earnest about
his kayaks. But the people over you know and Price Hill,
did not want a kayak. Okay, if I figured they
could go writ one if they wanted won you know,
they want their streets fix. That is yes, I mean
it was just absurd, and it's just and that's one
of many silly programs. I mean, they've got the little
(13:42):
bicycles you could ride and and and all of a sudden,
that's not what people want. People just want their streets fixed.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
So you know that.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I mean, that's that's really where we are. The other
the other last thing is just I think the tone
there at city Hall is so terrible. I mean that
I mentioned this before. If you questioned stuff, they attack you.
So if you question any of these development deals, like
you know, connected communities or High Park Square, you're a
nimbe and you don't want housing. If you're questioning how
(14:10):
the city deals with the homeless population, which is terrible, uh,
you know, you you lack compassion. If you call for
more law enforcement, you're like a maga racist, you know,
who wants to over police. They use some very loaded
and terrible language against their opponents, and they do it
just to shut down debate. And that, more than anything,
is what needs to change. We have to be able
(14:30):
to have these conversations if you're going to have any
kind of a city.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Well, from my understanding, at least in so far as
the crime concern that impacts people in all neighborhoods, people
of all ethnicities, races, religions, and creeds, they just want
a safe neighborhood. So this idea that calling for tougher
law enforcement to provide a measure of safety and calm
for residents, that it's racist, that's just backcrap.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Insane.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
People are just afraid of being labeled something, even though
the label has no connection with reality. It's like being
called a fascist. The words just come out of the
left's mouth in spite of the fact they don't have
any concept of the definition of fascism. We need to
all collectively stand up to this and quit cowering in
the corner because someone's going to say out loud, well
you're racist. Really do a logical connection between that statement
(15:15):
and what I'm all about, and see if you can
connect it to race is preposterous.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Steve Gooden, I agree one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
And look, I'm you know, I'm called a fascist and
a racist pretty much every day somewhere on social media.
I'm over it. He doesn't bother me. If you're going
to speak up for the right thing, you have to
speak up for the right thing. And look, we spent
a day campaigning just the other day over in bond
Hill and they're saying the same things that you hear
in Bryce Hill, which is, you know, where are the police?
(15:43):
We need more police, right, we're scared to go outside.
I mean we've really broken through on this. I mean,
the average person just wants to be safe. They want
their kids to be safe, They want their kids, they
just want the same thing that everybody wants, which is
just to be able to go about their lives without
fear or interference from the government, or interference from criminals
(16:06):
and people taking advantage of them. So you know, we're
really speaking out for the true majority here, and I
know a lot of it gets filtered through this. You know,
this nasty rhetoric that comes out of city Hall right now,
But we have to have these conversations and we're going
to say it win loser drawl. We're going to get
out there and say what we think is right. And
(16:27):
we definitely need more and better policing right now. And
I don't care where you are, what your race is.
That's just the reality. It's what the numbers say. And
you cannot have a city if you don't feel safe.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I'm confident you'll deliver on that message when you are elected.
Votegodin dot com. Steve Gooden always a pleasure man. Keep
up the great work and I wish you the best
of luck. And if you want, I know you're a
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Bowman's going to be there. Holly, who received the beatdown
in July. She says she's going to be there and
would love love to have you there if you can
make it.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Meet some voters.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Steve Gooden always a pleasure, right.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I love Jim and Jack, so I'll be there, will
absolutely be there. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Ed Steve good In to the list meet him tomorrow
and talk logic and reason with the man. Thanks Steve.
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It's a seven thirty fifty five kr CD talk station.
Happy Tuesday, Always happy to talk to our favorite legal
expert when it comes to matters law. We always end
up having Steve Gooden on the program. Steve Gooden is
a candidate for Cincinny City Council, running as a charter right.
He was there before. He's got a great record. He's
a sound, solid, logical, reasonable guy, and he should be elected.
Please vote Steve Gooden. Steve Gooden, welcome back to the
(01:19):
program from the law firm of Porter Wright. Find him
online at Porterwright dot com if you need a good lawyer.
Welcome back, Steve. It's a pleasure to have you on
the program.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
It's an honor to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Brian good Mornick, I appreciate you saying that that's kind
of you Iris Rawley making the news, and of course,
as a candidate for CINCINNTI City Council, this obviously is
important to you. We learned recently that she just renegotiated
her contract with the city doing some consulting work independent consultant.
Apparently five hundred and seventy thousand dollars is the value
(01:49):
of the contract. And we also learned just recently that
she hired her convicted fell son to work on this
government Square program to help distress you avoid crime. He's
paid four hundred or forty four hundred dollars a month
for this, which some people are calling foul because it's
clearly nepotism and a city employee would be subject to
(02:10):
nepotism rules and would never be hired under these circumstances.
So break this down for us, Steve Gooden.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Well Bry This one is yet another reason why people
are so cynical about.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Doing business with the city.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
It's because you know, the rules just simply don't apply.
I mean, just to put it very very quickly, if
you are a full time government employee in Ohio, whether
you work for the city or not, there's some pretty
stringent ethics rules, and nepotism is one of them. You
can't just turn around and give a job to your son.
(02:46):
But if you're a contractor for the city, there are
no rules.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
What the State of.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Ohio says is look, independent contractors should be policed by
the city and each city should pass their own rules
and moost. Big cities like Cleveland and Columbus have Cincinnati
has not. There are no background checks required, there are
no nepotism rules, there's nothing. They just handed you the money,
and in a case like this, I think everybody in
(03:14):
City Hall knows why miss Rowley was hired here. She
did some work over the years back on the police
collaborative that even a lot of police officers I know
have actually over time come to embrace. But in this
current role, she is there to run political interference from
the mayor whenever there is some racially charged issue or
(03:35):
a police shooting or something of that nature. She has
other responsibilities on paper, but that's really why she's there.
And of course they just handed this money to her
every year with no oversight, with no metrics, with no checking.
And obviously City Council has never, after all these years,
bothered to pass any kind of ethics rules. And I
(03:56):
approached this when I was on council. You get a
very negative react. And there is this whole ecosystem of
politically charged contractors and some contractors that no one wants
to touch, because if you did, you would see I'm
sure things worse than this, where the contracts are given
(04:17):
out for latly political reasons, and it's just another reason
why people have no faith in that place.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Well, and I've observed many times and no disagreement from
folks like you, Christopher Smithman anybody else I've talked to
you that has some connection with city council. It's these
non governmental organizations that are so damn powerful in terms
of a number of people they have a measure of
control over. So if you terminated Iris Rolly's contract because
it's too expensive and maybe there aren't they aren't achieving
(04:46):
some metrics with whatever work she's been paid to do.
This is a pointless program. They haven't delivered on success.
Here's for all the reasons we're cutting you off. Then
anybody who would consider doing that are going down that
road is going to get attacked by all of the
minions that say Iris Roly has control over. Those are
a lot of votes that might might go a different
direction at Iris Rolly's behast.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Well, that's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I mean, I mean she's politically powerful. And look, you know,
I've taken a risk by talking about it. You know,
I've been told by many of my political advisors saying, like,
what you can't, you can't call this out. You're gonna
lose support. She's gonna whip up support. And they do.
They actually have this whole you know, what they call
a troll farm of people that are out there on
on Twitter and on Facebook that as soon as you
(05:33):
criticize one of these agencies, you know, they have planted
people out there criticizing you, call it you racist. Everything
becomes a racissue the second you even begin to talk
about ethics and you know, really, you know it really
is is you know, from a mythological terms, Brian, it's.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Like a mini headed hydrage.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
You cut one of these, you know, consultants or nonprofits off,
there's another one that grows in its place. This has
really been going on for almost thirty years or so.
It's how patronage works in cities. They no longer give
you patronage through a full time job because we do
have some civil service protections and Ohio does require all
(06:11):
full time inunicibal employees to a buy by ethics rules.
But you hand the contract to your friends who work
in a nonprofit, or who form a nonprofit, or who
just in this case declare themselves to be a consultant.
You hand the contract to your friends that way, and
the rules don't apply. And it's a huge loophole. And
that's how the money moves at city hall. It's an
open secret. Nobody talks about it until something like this
(06:35):
really just comes out in the public and it can't
be denied.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It cannot be denied. We'll continue our conversation with Steve
Good and again you can find them online at Porterwright
dot com. Got more to talk about with him about that,
plus his campaign for since a City Council. First, those
whose loves Camp across country mortgage whatever state you're in,
and my friends in Puerto Rico. You can rely on
Susette Low's Camp for all your mortgage related needs. Want
to buy a house, need a mortgage? Costs is at
(06:59):
got to how Also on a second mortgage, Yes, you
can do that, get some equity out of your house.
That's an option, reverse mortgages or an option. Not a
fan personally, but I'm not making decisions for you. But
if it comes to mortgages, get in touch with Suzette
lowsa Camp. You'll be impressed by her superior customer service, charming,
wonderful to work with, lady who will work quickly to
(07:19):
deal with your mortgage situation, just like she did for
my daughter. She was so happy she called who set
and to do that. You get in touch with her
at five one three three one three fifty one seventy
six superior customer service, great rates at a low cost
with no junk fees and no application fees. Let her
do the work for you five one three three one
three fifty one seventy six, or shoot her an email
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(08:46):
Right run for SINCINNY City councilor of the Charter right banner.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
He's good Man.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I strongly encourage you to what is your your your
campaign website, Steve Gooden.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
It's Votegodin dot com. It's very creative that way, well
good dot com.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
It easy to remember Vote Gooden dot com. Help him out,
learn what he's all about. YouTube will decide he's a
right choice for the City of Cincinnati Council. Steve Gooden,
continuing with this conversation on Irish Roly, I have to
observe that political power that I will acknowledge she has
and a lot of supporters and followers who might vote
at her behest. That's the concern many council members, and
(09:22):
of course the mayor has, alienating these powerful, politically connected individuals.
But that only works in a city where only twenty
five percent of the people show up, right, Steve, that
twenty five percent makes up the power that they wield,
does it not? Or am I on the wrong page?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Steve?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
I know, I think you're absolutely right. I mean, we
traditionally do have low turnout elections in the city of Cincinnati,
which means that somebody, you know, like Miss Rowley and
in that can in her like circles of power, can
really have an impact. If you drive five or six
thousand votes, that makes a difference. Now, you know, this
year is I think going to be very very different.
(10:05):
I mean, I think there is a strong sense out
there the city's.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
On the wrong track.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
The early numbers that we're seeing in terms of absentee
vote applications and requests are very strong, and frankly, it
looked as though a lot of Democratic voters are not
sending out their requests or at least they're sending them
out in lower numbers, and Independents are sending them out,
(10:30):
you know, almost forty percent more than incomparable years. So
I think there is a huge amount of discontent, and
I do think you're going to see a pretty strong
turnout here, maybe not a record turnout. We usually there's
there's state issues and so forth that have driven the
record turnout, but for a purely local election, it looks
like an awful lot of people are coming out this year.
(10:50):
So you know, we're going to try to do the
right thing. We're going to try to speak out on
the issues that we think are correct, regardless of whether
it is politically in the moment, and we're just hoping
that the average voter who we're out talking to, who
seems to have had it, are going to turn up
no matter what. And this is going to be one
of those years where the people who are traditionally kind
(11:15):
of whipping votes out of small segments of the community
aren't able to have their.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Set well on the campaign trail, what are the repeated
issues that keep coming up, Steve? What are people telling
you that needs to be addressed by you if, for example,
you're elected to since a city council.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Well, I mean they.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
All really focus like in three big areas. I mean,
one is obviously crime. There is just this sense that
the city has become less safe and more violent over
the last four years, and I think the numbers back
that up. You know, there is this kind of this
kind of disgusting tendency that's coming out.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Of city Hall.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
To try to quibble about the stats and argue about
how the crime data is collected, but there is no
question property crimes are, murders are up, shootings are up.
We are on pacet at twenty three thousand recorded shots
on our shots Spotter technology around the city. It's twenty
three thousand shots in the city of not quite three
hundred thousand people.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
It's absurd.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
The second one is, you know, we really do have
a form of a housing crisis here. It's hard to
build new housing, it's hard to rehab there is so
much red tape. The city wants to incentivize new housing,
but then also even market rate housing, but then stumbles
over itself and it's truly bad that way. And third
of these quality of life issues, graffiti, litter are the
(12:37):
state of our roads. Just as there's this sense that
we're so busy with things like the Irish Roly Contract
and all these sort of politically correct programs that the
city's taking its eye off the ball when it comes
to just basic city services. You hear that over and
over and over again. I mean, I was at a
candidate forum last night and a city council me, Mark
(13:00):
Jefferies is trying to explain to this crowd over at
Elder High School that that he has a program where
they're now kayaks that the city has bought for will Creek.
And we could see the people are like, but there's
top holes everywhere. I mean, like, we don't want the kayaks.
Why the city's in the kayak business? I mean, I
mean it was it was just that if I could,
if I could take one moment out of this, it's
(13:21):
this guy is Mark Jeffers, and he's very earnest about
his kayaks. But the people over you know and Price Hill,
did not want a kayak. Okay, if I figured they
could go writ one if they wanted won you know,
they want their streets fix. That is yes, I mean
it was just absurd, and it's just and that's one
of many silly programs. I mean, they've got the little
(13:42):
bicycles you could ride and and and all of a sudden,
that's not what people want. People just want their streets fixed.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
So you know that.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I mean, that's that's really where we are. The other
the other last thing is just I think the tone
there at city Hall is so terrible. I mean that
I mentioned this before. If you questioned stuff, they attack you.
So if you question any of these development deals, like
you know, connected communities or High Park Square, you're a
nimbe and you don't want housing. If you're questioning how
(14:10):
the city deals with the homeless population, which is terrible, uh,
you know, you you lack compassion. If you call for
more law enforcement, you're like a maga racist, you know,
who wants to over police. They use some very loaded
and terrible language against their opponents, and they do it
just to shut down debate. And that, more than anything,
is what needs to change. We have to be able
(14:30):
to have these conversations if you're going to have any
kind of a city.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Well, from my understanding, at least in so far as
the crime concern that impacts people in all neighborhoods, people
of all ethnicities, races, religions, and creeds, they just want
a safe neighborhood. So this idea that calling for tougher
law enforcement to provide a measure of safety and calm
for residents, that it's racist, that's just backcrap.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Insane.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
People are just afraid of being labeled something, even though
the label has no connection with reality. It's like being
called a fascist. The words just come out of the
left's mouth in spite of the fact they don't have
any concept of the definition of fascism. We need to
all collectively stand up to this and quit cowering in
the corner because someone's going to say out loud, well
you're racist. Really do a logical connection between that statement
(15:15):
and what I'm all about, and see if you can
connect it to race is preposterous.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Steve Gooden, I agree one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
And look, I'm you know, I'm called a fascist and
a racist pretty much every day somewhere on social media.
I'm over it. He doesn't bother me. If you're going
to speak up for the right thing, you have to
speak up for the right thing. And look, we spent
a day campaigning just the other day over in bond
Hill and they're saying the same things that you hear
in Bryce Hill, which is, you know, where are the police?
(15:43):
We need more police, right, we're scared to go outside.
I mean we've really broken through on this. I mean,
the average person just wants to be safe. They want
their kids to be safe, They want their kids, they
just want the same thing that everybody wants, which is
just to be able to go about their lives without
fear or interference from the government, or interference from criminals
(16:06):
and people taking advantage of them. So you know, we're
really speaking out for the true majority here, and I
know a lot of it gets filtered through this. You know,
this nasty rhetoric that comes out of city Hall right now,
But we have to have these conversations and we're going
to say it win loser drawl. We're going to get
out there and say what we think is right. And
(16:27):
we definitely need more and better policing right now. And
I don't care where you are, what your race is.
That's just the reality. It's what the numbers say. And
you cannot have a city if you don't feel safe.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I'm confident you'll deliver on that message when you are elected.
Votegodin dot com. Steve Gooden always a pleasure man. Keep
up the great work and I wish you the best
of luck. And if you want, I know you're a
busy lawyer. We're having a listeners lunch at Jim and
Jackson the River. Chrismithman is going to be there, Corey
Bowman's going to be there. Holly, who received the beatdown
in July. She says she's going to be there and
would love love to have you there if you can
make it.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Meet some voters.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Steve Gooden always a pleasure, right.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I love Jim and Jack, so I'll be there, will
absolutely be there. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Ed Steve good In to the list meet him tomorrow
and talk logic and reason with the man. Thanks Steve.
I'll see you tomorrowt listener Lunch of Jim and Jack
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