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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Very happy Friday to you, Brian Tomas. Happy to welcome
on the thirty five Carsee Morning Show. You can find
him online at vote goodgod I n Vote Gooden dot
com and you should welcome back Steve Gooden. It's a
pleasure to have you on as always.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Hey, good morning, Brian.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Thank you from law firm reporter Ride. Steve always helps
us analyze legal cases that affect local communities even nationally.
It's a brilliant insight he always provides. He's also previously
on city council. We have a record we can attribute
to Steve Gooden. I think he did a fantastic job
and he was there running for council again. Let us
start with the debate last night. I understand you at
least caught some of the debate between Pervoll and Corey Bowman.
(00:58):
What was your reaction and what do you think?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well, it's it's more of the same stuff from the mayor.
You know, we you know are you know I've been
feeling it too. I mean they had a meeting that
about two weeks ago between the mayor and the other
council candidates. Which leaked immediately where he told them, look,
you just have to call everyone who is against US
Republican or Democrats, Maga, maga, maga, because apparently they've done
(01:25):
some polling that showed one, you know, that a lot
of the council candidates at least are in trouble are incumbents,
and number two that his numbers apparently aren't so great.
So rather than deal with his performance, he wants to
make everything about national issues and deflect everything to the
Trump administration, which is still pretty unpopular within the city.
(01:48):
And you could see that playbook absolutely and pretty much
everything he said. Rather than acknowledge at all the fact
that we have a massive spice crime in our most
populous neighborhoods, rather than even discuss the fact that we
had a shooting right outside of Fountain Square at five
(02:09):
o'clock on a weekday, the people are getting out of
their getting into their cars to go home from their offices,
where people were just absolutely horrified. It was right by
my office, by the way, the two idiots getting into
an argument and both pulling guns and shooting each other
there on Vine Street. You know, that's rather than acknowledge
(02:29):
any of those things, all he wanted to do was say,
talk about the evils of Donald Trump and implying that
people are being kidnapped by ice throughout the city and
fear mongering. So it was really disgusting and I think,
you know, Bowman hit back against that the best he could.
But the plan there was to absolutely gaslight the audience
(02:51):
and anyone who's watching this and make them think that
the city's perfectly fine but for the fact that we
have a terrible administration in Washington, DC see and that
he's going to stand up and fight for you. So
it was more of the same garbage that we've been
seeing in the last few weeks, but also a real
sign that they feel like that their grip on city
Hall is slipping.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Well, you see through it.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I mean, the idea that the Trump administration, what they're doing,
has an impact on the city of Cincinnati, I suppose
to even suggest that and make that argument is to
believe that your audience is filled with idiots who believe
that there is some connection. That's insulting.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, it's extraordinarily insulting, and from the people that we're
talking to out in the community, it's not working. It's
not even working. You know, with the lot of the
really progressive Democrats out in the city that we encounter.
I mean, look, the only reason the word Cincinnati may
pass through from Slips is because of the fact that
(03:50):
the crime here has become so bad. I mean, that's
the issue. I'm not one of these people that thinks
the National Guards should be deployed over street crime. I
think that's an absolutely last resort, you know, and and
and that is you know, there's constitutional issues there as well,
saying that it's from a kind of constitutional conservative standpoint.
(04:10):
But all that being said, I mean the issue is crime, period.
I mean public safety's we need more police officers. We're
two hundred short of a compliment that was set all
the way back in two thousand and five when we
had a very very different city. We need to we
may need up to four hundred more police officers if
we're going to seriously police a city and actually have
(04:32):
beat patrols again, which we know are the best way
to combat crime. So, uh, it's all just other incomplete nonsense.
It is a complete deflection, and it's what they've been
doing all summer. I mean, look, it's it's you know,
we had a terrible summer. The city is more violent
than it has been a long time. It's a tougher
place to work, and it's more divided, and it's more
(04:54):
divided one hundred percent because of the mayor and the
people he's got working for him. I mean, look, you
know he I know we're going to talk about Irish
Rolli as well, but he has a police critic on
his staff. I mean that works some reports to the
city manager into him, who is openly critical of the police.
Because of her job, she's supposed to be some sort
of a consultant. But I mean this results in a
(05:17):
total demoralization of the police force that's already understaffed. We
see the results every day. This has nothing to do
with Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Clearly has nothing to do with Donald Trump. And you
know he tried to deflect, and we talked about this
with Christopher Smithman earlier this morning. Deflect blame basically on
John Cranley. He's been mayor for four years now. When
is he going to take credit and or take responsibility
rather for the issues that are plaguing in the city
of Cincinnati. I mean, that's kind of That retreat was
really I think childish or shallow and Hollow. He's got
(05:49):
a lot of time to improve the situation. I mean,
how how many lane miles has AFT had provol improved
since he's been mayor. We're behind four hundred million dollars
in infrastruate.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Oh I go, well, you know, I mean if we
wouldn't get get into that, but we now know that
they have money. This came out last week and the
I think the Business Courier that they have almost twenty
million dollars that they could have spent on on pothole
repair that they just haven't bothered to get around to spending.
(06:22):
I mean, it's it's really just incompetence upon incompetence down there.
And look at me. We you know, I was at
a debate on Monday night and out lookout what the
council group and of course that that's you know, what
they've been instructed to say about us. They said, I'm
we're cleaning up the mess of the prior council of
John Cranley, the prior council. But it's been you know,
it's been four years and actually the roads were getting
(06:45):
paved four years. I mean, you know, we could say
what you want about John Cranley, but the police, the
police department was better staffed. It wasn't fully staffed, but
it was better staffed. They got raises, morale was good.
The FOP engaged with and ultimate endorsed the mayor. Right
now they gave it no confidence vote to AFT HAVE. Yeah,
but at the time, you know, crably worked with them
(07:07):
very well, and we had a working majority on council
that involved me and Christopher Smitherman and Liz Keating, and
we all listened to the police officers' needs and tried
to tried to take care of what the neighborhood wanted
and what they want, what the officers need. So we
did exactly what we were supposed to do at the
(07:28):
best we could within the budget constraints. Anyway, So it's
a totally different scene here, and it is a absolutely intentional,
uh and really disgusting and divisive thing. This group is
newing not just AFT to HAVE, but the council candidates
to deflect on Trump and on now on to prior
council members and mayors. They've had four years and they
(07:50):
have absolutely wrecked the city.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Well, a question I asked Christopher earlier in the program,
I want to gauge your reaction. You know, he's out
and about. You're going out and about, you're doing town halls,
your door knocking. I mean, you're familiar with what's going on.
What is the enthusiasm level right now? Considering the city
of Cincinnati is really low on turnout with voters, what
was it, ten percent? Fifteen percent of the folks showed up,
and those are usually going to be, from my perception,
(08:14):
filled with a lot of those NGO folks, those community
activists that are getting cash contributions from from the City
of Cincinnati. They're really good about going out and helping
those elected officials that help them. In other words, you know,
one hand washes the other. We know how politics works.
But so is there enthusiasm among the regular Cincinnati voters
(08:35):
for AFTAB provol or do you suspect that we're going
to have another low voter turnout considering the city is
pretty much one hundred percent blue. I know it's not
but overwhelmingly Democrat.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well, you know, we're almost a week into early voting,
and I can tell you what the numbers show, and
they actually show both not just an enthi lack of
enthusias asn't ver AFTAB but like an antipathy for aft TAB.
But we also see that it's going to be a
pretty low turnout election unless things change right away. And
from the early vote in person and plus the mail
(09:12):
and vote requests, it looks like it's down about thirty
percent among Democrats, it's down a little less among non
affiliated and Republicans. It's only down about two percent among Republicans.
So what it tells me is there's a lot of
just discussed among the Democratic base about what's going on there.
They may not be moving to Bowman, but they're going
(09:34):
to vote with their feet and stay home, and that
opens up a lot of opportunity for other candidates. And
it also means that the total number of votes that
you might need to win if you're someone say like
a Charter Right or a Republican, that vote number is
going to go down because it's the best of nine
and with people staying home. What we also do know
(09:54):
is that a lot of independent voters who still make
up the majority of the city, they tend to vote Democratic,
but they're like not really truly affiliated with the party
or activists there. Those folks have shown the least to
drop off, So we know that that that big mass
of independent voters, which can be as much as forty
percent in the city election, but they're still coming out,
(10:16):
and I don't think they're coming out because they're happy
with AFTAB. And also to your point about the activists,
I think that's the really kind of disgusting thing that's
happened over the last to several decades at city Hall.
I mean, we you know, famously got rid of patronage
when we passed our churn in the nineteen twenties. But
now we have a new patronage where you know, the
mayor and the administration and so forth canned out a
(10:39):
lot of dollars in a lot of bogus contracts to
nonprofit agencies and agencies that are just created to you know,
really to suck up the money that we know were
involved in election hearing come elect you know, come every
two years. So you know, that's a lot of the
game that the Democrats and council have played, which is
using nonprofits who then turn around and help them in
(11:02):
the election. And it's really disgusting and it's really outside
the charter, and really these independent contractors and nonprofits kind
of fall outside of all the city and state ethics laws.
They can do as they please, and it's an open
secret here in town. But this year it doesn't seem
to be taking because you cannot convince the average person.
(11:23):
And I don't care what neighborhood they're in, and I
don't care what their race is. What we're hearing across
the board is discussed with the situation where public safety
discussed about the crime. Everyone knows we don't have enough
police officers, and no matter how much they say that
isn't the case. The lived experience of people in the
neighborhood belies that. And I just don't think it's working
(11:46):
this year.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
That sounds like an opportunity for otherwise, like Republicans, Independence,
maybe some of the samee Democrats maybe change the tide
in the city of Cincinnati. Your vote really truly does
matter more. With Steve Gooden, we're going to find out
about this Irish a little bit of a riff going
on between you two, Steve. We'll talk about that in
just a minute. Seven to seventeen Right now, fifty five
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five car City talk station, Steve Gooden, you can help
him out online.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Go to Votegoden dot com.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
There's a little donate button. I'm there. I'm sure you'd
appreciate a campaign contribution, maybe getting yard sign. He's running
for CINCINNAI City Council and demonstrably intelligent, good guy with
some great ideas for the city running as a charter right,
and that's a okay with me, Steve good And pivoting
over to your latest row with Iris Rowley, there was
being intentionally on that one. So what is the city?
(12:35):
Obviously community active issues, part of the Black Lives Matter,
and I guess she's a defund police type. She's been
interfering with police officers trying to do their duty and
deal with crime and problems in downtown Cincinnati. So we
know about her. What do you how'd you get in
a mix with her online?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well, you know, yeah, it's kind of crazy. She she
and Reverend David Lynch kind of unleashed their online followers
on me this week to the point where we where
we where we actually had to have the police check
out some of the messages I was getting from them
that were threatening and just bizarre. You know, hundreds of
(13:13):
people piling on at her urging. And what's really wild
here is she is a long time community activist, was
deeply involved in the Collaborative Agreement back in the early
two thousands, and back then you actually did some work
that that a lot of people, including police officers, actually
came around to see what was positive. But you know,
as they always say, you know, in these stories, you know,
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you start out as a hero, but if you stay
in the stage too long, you end up as the villain.
And that's kind of where we are now. She is
a paid consultant to the administration, reporting to the city
manager and to AFTAB to help allegedly help with the
police Collaborative Agreement and police community relations. But what's really
happened is she has she makes hundreds of thousands of
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dollars that she funnels in part to her son, who
is her sole employee of her small company, and no
one really knows exactly what they do all day. There's
no metrics. And we do know that she is openly
critical to police, and that there's at least one video
that an officer has of her interfering with someone trying
(14:21):
to cite someone for a misdemeanor. So she's a big,
big flash point in police community relations both ways. But
her real job is to go out there and whip
up support in the black church community for the mayor.
And that's what she's doing now. If she were an
actual city employee, she would have civil service rules imposed
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upon her where she couldn't engage in electioneering and campaigning.
But there's a loophole here for these paid consultants, so
she makes more than city employees, actually interferes with police
business and then goes out in campaigns and tries to
whip not just whip up support for the mayor, but
attack other candidates. I had the temerity to call that
out on a couple of different radio programs and on
(15:06):
a TV interview into the improprieties around her contract. And
she came at me all weekend. Uh. And you know,
some of it, some of it was kind of funny.
One guy keeps referring to me. One of her followers
keeps referring to me as quote, a mediocre douchebag, which
I thought I was at least an extraordinary dude bag
(15:26):
disappointed we called a mediocre one. And most of it's
just the kind of stuff you shrug off. But the
organized nature of it, a paid city consultant is the
part of the part that should it should stir people,
which is and I don't think it's very effective. We're
not losing any sleep, but I frankly didn't think I
was getting any votes from Irish only anyway, and I'm
just fine with that. But my point, I guess my
(15:49):
point of view is it's yet one more gigantic ethical
lapse from this administration. It's the kind of thing that's
going on in broad daylight that everyone should just be
discussed by. She is giving city tax dollars for a
contract to do god knows what during the day, but
we know and see that the real purpose of it
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is for her to go out there attack the mayor's
opponents and whip up support for his agenda. And they're
using tax dollars to do it, and that's just wrong.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
It is fundamentally wrong. Steve Gooden again, votegodin dot com.
Wish you all the best, Steve, and I presume you
and I will to be talking before the election. Keep
up the great work and I'll look forward to talking
with you again real soon. Thanks for your time this morning.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Anytime, Brian, thank you all right.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Take care brother, have a great weekend. On top of that,
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Very happy Friday to you, Brian Tomas. Happy to welcome
on the thirty five Carsee Morning Show. You can find
him online at vote goodgod I n Vote Gooden dot
com and you should welcome back Steve Gooden. It's a
pleasure to have you on as always.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Hey, good morning, Brian.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Thank you from law firm reporter Ride. Steve always helps
us analyze legal cases that affect local communities even nationally.
It's a brilliant insight he always provides. He's also previously
on city council. We have a record we can attribute
to Steve Gooden. I think he did a fantastic job
and he was there running for council again. Let us
start with the debate last night. I understand you at
least caught some of the debate between Pervoll and Corey Bowman.
(00:58):
What was your reaction and what do you think?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well, it's it's more of the same stuff from the mayor.
You know, we you know are you know I've been
feeling it too. I mean they had a meeting that
about two weeks ago between the mayor and the other
council candidates. Which leaked immediately where he told them, look,
you just have to call everyone who is against US
Republican or Democrats, Maga, maga, maga, because apparently they've done
(01:25):
some polling that showed one, you know, that a lot
of the council candidates at least are in trouble are incumbents,
and number two that his numbers apparently aren't so great.
So rather than deal with his performance, he wants to
make everything about national issues and deflect everything to the
Trump administration, which is still pretty unpopular within the city.
(01:48):
And you could see that playbook absolutely and pretty much
everything he said. Rather than acknowledge at all the fact
that we have a massive spice crime in our most
populous neighborhoods, rather than even discuss the fact that we
had a shooting right outside of Fountain Square at five
(02:09):
o'clock on a weekday, the people are getting out of
their getting into their cars to go home from their offices,
where people were just absolutely horrified. It was right by
my office, by the way, the two idiots getting into
an argument and both pulling guns and shooting each other
there on Vine Street. You know, that's rather than acknowledge
(02:29):
any of those things, all he wanted to do was say,
talk about the evils of Donald Trump and implying that
people are being kidnapped by ice throughout the city and
fear mongering. So it was really disgusting and I think,
you know, Bowman hit back against that the best he could.
But the plan there was to absolutely gaslight the audience
(02:51):
and anyone who's watching this and make them think that
the city's perfectly fine but for the fact that we
have a terrible administration in Washington, DC see and that
he's going to stand up and fight for you. So
it was more of the same garbage that we've been
seeing in the last few weeks, but also a real
sign that they feel like that their grip on city
Hall is slipping.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Well, you see through it.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I mean, the idea that the Trump administration, what they're doing,
has an impact on the city of Cincinnati, I suppose
to even suggest that and make that argument is to
believe that your audience is filled with idiots who believe
that there is some connection. That's insulting.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, it's extraordinarily insulting, and from the people that we're
talking to out in the community, it's not working. It's
not even working. You know, with the lot of the
really progressive Democrats out in the city that we encounter.
I mean, look, the only reason the word Cincinnati may
pass through from Slips is because of the fact that
(03:50):
the crime here has become so bad. I mean, that's
the issue. I'm not one of these people that thinks
the National Guards should be deployed over street crime. I
think that's an absolutely last resort, you know, and and
and that is you know, there's constitutional issues there as well,
saying that it's from a kind of constitutional conservative standpoint.
(04:10):
But all that being said, I mean the issue is crime, period.
I mean public safety's we need more police officers. We're
two hundred short of a compliment that was set all
the way back in two thousand and five when we
had a very very different city. We need to we
may need up to four hundred more police officers if
we're going to seriously police a city and actually have
(04:32):
beat patrols again, which we know are the best way
to combat crime. So, uh, it's all just other incomplete nonsense.
It is a complete deflection, and it's what they've been
doing all summer. I mean, look, it's it's you know,
we had a terrible summer. The city is more violent
than it has been a long time. It's a tougher
place to work, and it's more divided, and it's more
(04:54):
divided one hundred percent because of the mayor and the
people he's got working for him. I mean, look, you
know he I know we're going to talk about Irish
Rolli as well, but he has a police critic on
his staff. I mean that works some reports to the
city manager into him, who is openly critical of the police.
Because of her job, she's supposed to be some sort
of a consultant. But I mean this results in a
(05:17):
total demoralization of the police force that's already understaffed. We
see the results every day. This has nothing to do
with Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Clearly has nothing to do with Donald Trump. And you
know he tried to deflect, and we talked about this
with Christopher Smithman earlier this morning. Deflect blame basically on
John Cranley. He's been mayor for four years now. When
is he going to take credit and or take responsibility
rather for the issues that are plaguing in the city
of Cincinnati. I mean, that's kind of That retreat was
really I think childish or shallow and Hollow. He's got
(05:49):
a lot of time to improve the situation. I mean,
how how many lane miles has AFT had provol improved
since he's been mayor. We're behind four hundred million dollars
in infrastruate.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Oh I go, well, you know, I mean if we
wouldn't get get into that, but we now know that
they have money. This came out last week and the
I think the Business Courier that they have almost twenty
million dollars that they could have spent on on pothole
repair that they just haven't bothered to get around to spending.
(06:22):
I mean, it's it's really just incompetence upon incompetence down there.
And look at me. We you know, I was at
a debate on Monday night and out lookout what the
council group and of course that that's you know, what
they've been instructed to say about us. They said, I'm
we're cleaning up the mess of the prior council of
John Cranley, the prior council. But it's been you know,
it's been four years and actually the roads were getting
(06:45):
paved four years. I mean, you know, we could say
what you want about John Cranley, but the police, the
police department was better staffed. It wasn't fully staffed, but
it was better staffed. They got raises, morale was good.
The FOP engaged with and ultimate endorsed the mayor. Right
now they gave it no confidence vote to AFT HAVE. Yeah,
but at the time, you know, crably worked with them
(07:07):
very well, and we had a working majority on council
that involved me and Christopher Smitherman and Liz Keating, and
we all listened to the police officers' needs and tried
to tried to take care of what the neighborhood wanted
and what they want, what the officers need. So we
did exactly what we were supposed to do at the
(07:28):
best we could within the budget constraints. Anyway, So it's
a totally different scene here, and it is a absolutely intentional,
uh and really disgusting and divisive thing. This group is
newing not just AFT to HAVE, but the council candidates
to deflect on Trump and on now on to prior
council members and mayors. They've had four years and they
(07:50):
have absolutely wrecked the city.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Well, a question I asked Christopher earlier in the program,
I want to gauge your reaction. You know, he's out
and about. You're going out and about, you're doing town halls,
your door knocking. I mean, you're familiar with what's going on.
What is the enthusiasm level right now? Considering the city
of Cincinnati is really low on turnout with voters, what
was it, ten percent? Fifteen percent of the folks showed up,
and those are usually going to be, from my perception,
(08:14):
filled with a lot of those NGO folks, those community
activists that are getting cash contributions from from the City
of Cincinnati. They're really good about going out and helping
those elected officials that help them. In other words, you know,
one hand washes the other. We know how politics works.
But so is there enthusiasm among the regular Cincinnati voters
(08:35):
for AFTAB provol or do you suspect that we're going
to have another low voter turnout considering the city is
pretty much one hundred percent blue. I know it's not
but overwhelmingly Democrat.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well, you know, we're almost a week into early voting,
and I can tell you what the numbers show, and
they actually show both not just an enthi lack of
enthusias asn't ver AFTAB but like an antipathy for aft TAB.
But we also see that it's going to be a
pretty low turnout election unless things change right away. And
from the early vote in person and plus the mail
(09:12):
and vote requests, it looks like it's down about thirty
percent among Democrats, it's down a little less among non
affiliated and Republicans. It's only down about two percent among Republicans.
So what it tells me is there's a lot of
just discussed among the Democratic base about what's going on there.
They may not be moving to Bowman, but they're going
(09:34):
to vote with their feet and stay home, and that
opens up a lot of opportunity for other candidates. And
it also means that the total number of votes that
you might need to win if you're someone say like
a Charter Right or a Republican, that vote number is
going to go down because it's the best of nine
and with people staying home. What we also do know
(09:54):
is that a lot of independent voters who still make
up the majority of the city, they tend to vote Democratic,
but they're like not really truly affiliated with the party
or activists there. Those folks have shown the least to
drop off, So we know that that that big mass
of independent voters, which can be as much as forty
percent in the city election, but they're still coming out,
(10:16):
and I don't think they're coming out because they're happy
with AFTAB. And also to your point about the activists,
I think that's the really kind of disgusting thing that's
happened over the last to several decades at city Hall.
I mean, we you know, famously got rid of patronage
when we passed our churn in the nineteen twenties. But
now we have a new patronage where you know, the
mayor and the administration and so forth canned out a
(10:39):
lot of dollars in a lot of bogus contracts to
nonprofit agencies and agencies that are just created to you know,
really to suck up the money that we know were
involved in election hearing come elect you know, come every
two years. So you know, that's a lot of the
game that the Democrats and council have played, which is
using nonprofits who then turn around and help them in
(11:02):
the election. And it's really disgusting and it's really outside
the charter, and really these independent contractors and nonprofits kind
of fall outside of all the city and state ethics laws.
They can do as they please, and it's an open
secret here in town. But this year it doesn't seem
to be taking because you cannot convince the average person.
(11:23):
And I don't care what neighborhood they're in, and I
don't care what their race is. What we're hearing across
the board is discussed with the situation where public safety
discussed about the crime. Everyone knows we don't have enough
police officers, and no matter how much they say that
isn't the case. The lived experience of people in the
neighborhood belies that. And I just don't think it's working
(11:46):
this year.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
That sounds like an opportunity for otherwise, like Republicans, Independence,
maybe some of the samee Democrats maybe change the tide
in the city of Cincinnati. Your vote really truly does
matter more. With Steve Gooden, we're going to find out
about this Irish a little bit of a riff going
on between you two, Steve. We'll talk about that in
just a minute. Seven to seventeen Right now, fifty five
kar City Talk Station. Something for you to do this
weekend if you don't even seven twenty one and fifty
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five car City talk station, Steve Gooden, you can help
him out online.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Go to Votegoden dot com.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
There's a little donate button. I'm there. I'm sure you'd
appreciate a campaign contribution, maybe getting yard sign. He's running
for CINCINNAI City Council and demonstrably intelligent, good guy with
some great ideas for the city running as a charter right,
and that's a okay with me, Steve good And pivoting
over to your latest row with Iris Rowley, there was
being intentionally on that one. So what is the city?
(12:35):
Obviously community active issues, part of the Black Lives Matter,
and I guess she's a defund police type. She's been
interfering with police officers trying to do their duty and
deal with crime and problems in downtown Cincinnati. So we
know about her. What do you how'd you get in
a mix with her online?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well, you know, yeah, it's kind of crazy. She she
and Reverend David Lynch kind of unleashed their online followers
on me this week to the point where we where
we where we actually had to have the police check
out some of the messages I was getting from them
that were threatening and just bizarre. You know, hundreds of
(13:13):
people piling on at her urging. And what's really wild
here is she is a long time community activist, was
deeply involved in the Collaborative Agreement back in the early
two thousands, and back then you actually did some work
that that a lot of people, including police officers, actually
came around to see what was positive. But you know,
as they always say, you know, in these stories, you know,
(13:37):
you start out as a hero, but if you stay
in the stage too long, you end up as the villain.
And that's kind of where we are now. She is
a paid consultant to the administration, reporting to the city
manager and to AFTAB to help allegedly help with the
police Collaborative Agreement and police community relations. But what's really
happened is she has she makes hundreds of thousands of
(13:58):
dollars that she funnels in part to her son, who
is her sole employee of her small company, and no
one really knows exactly what they do all day. There's
no metrics. And we do know that she is openly
critical to police, and that there's at least one video
that an officer has of her interfering with someone trying
(14:21):
to cite someone for a misdemeanor. So she's a big,
big flash point in police community relations both ways. But
her real job is to go out there and whip
up support in the black church community for the mayor.
And that's what she's doing now. If she were an
actual city employee, she would have civil service rules imposed
(14:44):
upon her where she couldn't engage in electioneering and campaigning.
But there's a loophole here for these paid consultants, so
she makes more than city employees, actually interferes with police
business and then goes out in campaigns and tries to
whip not just whip up support for the mayor, but
attack other candidates. I had the temerity to call that
out on a couple of different radio programs and on
(15:06):
a TV interview into the improprieties around her contract. And
she came at me all weekend. Uh. And you know,
some of it, some of it was kind of funny.
One guy keeps referring to me. One of her followers
keeps referring to me as quote, a mediocre douchebag, which
I thought I was at least an extraordinary dude bag
(15:26):
disappointed we called a mediocre one. And most of it's
just the kind of stuff you shrug off. But the
organized nature of it, a paid city consultant is the
part of the part that should it should stir people,
which is and I don't think it's very effective. We're
not losing any sleep, but I frankly didn't think I
was getting any votes from Irish only anyway, and I'm
just fine with that. But my point, I guess my
(15:49):
point of view is it's yet one more gigantic ethical
lapse from this administration. It's the kind of thing that's
going on in broad daylight that everyone should just be
discussed by. She is giving city tax dollars for a
contract to do god knows what during the day, but
we know and see that the real purpose of it
(16:10):
is for her to go out there attack the mayor's
opponents and whip up support for his agenda. And they're
using tax dollars to do it, and that's just wrong.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
It is fundamentally wrong. Steve Gooden again, votegodin dot com.
Wish you all the best, Steve, and I presume you
and I will to be talking before the election. Keep
up the great work and I'll look forward to talking
with you again real soon. Thanks for your time this morning.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Anytime, Brian, thank you all right.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Take care brother, have a great weekend. On top of that,
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