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October 17, 2025 • 15 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
It's seven oh six.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
It is Friday.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Stating the obvious, but I like to remind people put
a smile on your face just for the fact that
it's Friday. Another reason to put a smile on your face.
We do have some great options as we fast approach
the November elections. Since I City Council, we have a
multitude of candidates to choose from. Some I think are
worth voting for, and some or others. Some have a
demonstrable record of success and have shown the logic and
reason and maybe some really great ideas for the city,

(00:40):
oftentimes rejected by the overwhelming presence of one hundred percent
Democrats on council. How about going with the charter right?
How about voting for Steve good And from the law
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good I n vote Gooden dot com. Welcome back, Steve Gooden.
It's always a pleasure talking.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
With you, Bright. I think you the kind words, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Very much, it's there. They come from the heart, my friend,
and I just just doubling back on all the times
you've been on the program to talk about some the
pending legal cases that have drawing national attention or even
local attention. You do such a wonderful job boiling it
down to you know, easily understandable principles and facts, but
you stay right on top of it. And I know
you do a great job representing your client. So I

(01:23):
just thanks for all the time you spent with my
listeners and me helping us unpack these things over the years,
and let us try to unpack what's going on in
downtown Cincinnati. See running for council early arting's open, get
in touch and vote for Steve. So it sounds to
me like after purvol is now admitting we have a
problem with crime in downtown Cincinnati, because forever he was
saying no, no, no, no, no, you just you don't believe

(01:44):
your own eyes. You're just you have this wrong perception.
Crimes actually down, and yet every morning like today, we
wake up another person murdered in downtown since night two
o'clock this morning, and he has now released some updated
crime fightings quote unquote solutions. I'm doing the quote things
with my fingers, including accepting four days of Ohio State

(02:06):
patrol in the city of Cincinnati, as opposed to an
entire month's worth, which is what the governor offered him,
among other things. Andre Ewing's on yesterday saying, wait a second,
why wouldn't you just take everything the state has to offer,
will supplement the depleted ranks, and let's see if that works.
So by even accepting something from the state, I believe
he's acknowledging them as a crime problem and pivoting over.

(02:28):
There was rumors that he was getting ready to fire
police Chief Teresa Thiji. I guess because of crime. How
do you unpackage this part?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Steve Gooden, Well, I mean, well, the headline here is
really simple, which is the city's you know, four year
experiment in not really enforcing crime, our basic laws downtown
is a failure. I mean, you know, both the mayor

(02:55):
and and the chief have been saying that their focus
has been on compliant and not enforcement. And I didn't
know what in the world that meant, but you know,
what it basically has boiled down to is whether it's
open air pot smoking, loitering, fighting, breaking the curfew which
has always been in existence for our youth, or just

(03:17):
other you know, the terrible anti social behaviors, public urination,
and the homeless population that it's been downtown graffiti, you
name it. They're not really arresting anyone. The directives to
the police from the chief, through the mayor and the
city manager and bought into by council was we're just

(03:38):
going to tell people to move on. We might give
them a warning, we're not going to enforce because we
don't want bad crime stats downtown. And what has happened
over four years is there is this sense of lawlessness
which has now attracted real violence. I mean, you know,
some people call this the broken windows theory. When you
let the little things go over time, they become big things.

(04:00):
And that is what has happened right in the heart
of downtown, in and over the Rhine where through three
CDC the city and its partners of investment over three
billion dollars in rehabbing old properties and bringing businesses in
and have lured all this private investment in and now
it is all in danger because of this bizarre politically
correct in non enforcement quote quote compliance over enforcement theory

(04:24):
where they have a large homeless population move in. Drugs
are back, violence is back, the downtown reeks of pot
smoke during the middle of the workday and people don't
feel safe. My office barn, as you know, is right
off this street, right by Government Square. Our staff is
afraid to walk down the street to go to the

(04:45):
subway or wherever they go for lunch. They're afraid to
go out because there have been two shootings right by
our office during daylight hours within the last five days.
It is a disgraceful situation and it is only a
matter of time before we see more folks pulling out
of down to have someone doesn't do something and look
at I'm all for that. I was very early on

(05:06):
saying that the chief has to go. I think she's
lost the confidence of the rank and file. I know
the FOP and others disagree. They think she's been made
a scapegoat, and I think that's true to a certain extent.
But she went along with this stuff. She had to
know better. I mean, she was an excellent I knew
were back in the day's an excellent police officer. She
was coming up through the ranks. You cannot have this

(05:30):
weird social experiment. This is like you did in San
Francisco or Portland, where you don't enforce basic laws and
not see an uptick over time in real violent crime.
And that's what's happened here. When you strip everything away,
it's very plain they have a public record of this
where they made a decision not to enforce these smaller

(05:53):
things like in a pot, smoking, loitering, graffiti, public urination,
and now you have all. Now you have murder fights,
gun battles, literally, gun battles in front of the federal
courthouse some Monday night. Two guys shooting at each other
at five fifteen in the afternoon. It's insane.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
So Steve Gooden, what I'm hearing is that while the
statistics themselves may suggest crime is down, the nature of
policing under the current administration is to not issue citations
or otherwise arrest people, which would be reflected on the
crime statistics book. So move along, son, you know, put
the knife down or drop the gun and move along.

(06:31):
That's not going to get reported. So it gives the
appearance that crime has actually done, at least statistically, while
the reality is everybody sees with their own eyes that
it's not.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
That's exactly right, And actually it goes way deeper than that. Brian.
I mean, we know, and I know of two instances
for personally, where I know people who were involved or
whose property was damaged, where people have had their windows
shot out, like particularly in the West End, their car
windows and in one case the window to their home

(07:02):
shot out, and it was just listed, you know, as
a property crime, you know, instead of the gun Like
you know, you have a gunfire in your neighborhood, that's
very different than the kid throwing a rock through your
window or something or you know, something that you know
from you know, so that shows up as just like
a small property in fraction because no one is arrested.
So we know they've been playing games in other ways

(07:22):
in terms of how they report. And that's one of
the things that I really do kind of fault the
current police command with is they've gone along with that.
They know that it doesn't reflect the lived reality of
what's out there the rank. And while police officers know
that too, I mean, they know the city has become
more violent, particularly in terms of gun violence, and not
just downtown. The gun violence has popped up in numerous

(07:45):
other neighborhoods. We know we have an uptick, a real
strong uptick in property crimes in Carthafs and neighborhoods like
Hyde Park and an Outlookout that's not being addressed or
mentioned at all, and that's something that is undeniable by
inning statistic. I know one person on a in Mount
lookout who actually had this car stolen out of his

(08:06):
garage two weeks ago. Oh my god, you know there
are professionals his attached garage. It was a burdenary. The
god ed. He gets up and goes down to work
in the morning, four cars have been broken into in
a street and his car has gone from his own garage.
And this stuff just isn't being talked about because it
doesn't fit the narrative. They want to argue that in theory,

(08:27):
crime is down overall in the city, but depending on
where you live, it has become very, very dangerous. And look,
it's not just about downtown. I think we have been
too centric in terms of putting development dollars downtown and
not investing in the neighborhoods in terms of development. But
if we lose what they've built downtown, it's going to

(08:47):
be a multi billion dollar tragedy. And a lot of people,
particularly the small business owners who've been allured into downtown,
thinking it's a good place to invest their life savings
and open a restaurant or a small shop or whatever.
The ones who are really, really really going to get
hurt here, and it's already starting to happen, and it's
an absolute tragedy, and it was absolutely avoidable with a

(09:08):
little bit of foresight and common sense.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
And a different administration. Time for a change in administration,
vote yep goodin dot com. Will bring Steve Gooden back
on other issues at seven fifteen right now with the
five krcity talk station. I always like to joke Oder eggs.
It works on everything except the stench five talk station.
Seven twenty here for the five krc DE talk station
by Thomas with Steve Gooden right for since a City
Council Steve vote Gooden dot com. Real quick here, Steve,

(09:36):
before we leave the crime component, I just want to
make sure I'm clear on this at least as I
perceive it. After that, par Ball and share a Long
City Manager are the ones that decided that she would
be chief. They selected her over the objections of the
police department, which wanted somebody else. But that's okay, fine.
They picked her because they're allowed to after the passage
of issue five some years ago. They apparently are directing her.

(09:58):
You mentioned how good of a police officer police chief
Fiji was, and she has qualified for the job. So
I presume she has a sound understanding of the laws
and arresting people and what the laws are in the
books and who's subject to arrest, but that it's not
happening now, which means she is following the I'll characterize
it as woke politics of pervol and Sha Long and

(10:21):
the current administration. So she's taking their directive and moving
in this low arrest sort of you know, move along
type police patrol environment, which now they're threatening to fire
her because of crime in downtown Cincinnati, and they're firing
her because she followed what they instructed her to do.

(10:41):
That's the way I'm hearing it. Am I you think
I'm close.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I think you're, if anything, you're being too charitable to
what happened. I mean, look, I mean what they're doing
isn't just woke. I mean woke is some like goofy
college professor fighting about pronouns. This is extraordinarily woke. I mean,
this is all This is like woke stuff taken to
a point where it's easier, destructive and sort of yes, absolutely,

(11:06):
I mean, I mean they really have. And I know
this from a personal conversation I had with the chief
about eighteen months ago. Of course, she's very mad at
me now because I've been publicly critical over so we're
not really talking anymore. But I mean, you know, I mean, look,
they made a conscious decision to move away from a

(11:26):
lot of enforcement. I mean, the speed humps that you
see all over the city are designed to slow drivers
down and are blatantly designed to, as they say, lesson
police interactions with citizens. So basically, instead of patrolling the
streets and enforcing speeding you got these speed humps. So,

(11:47):
as I say, every time you drive over one of
these things, and they spent millions on them, I mean
you're seeing like some defunding of the police right in
the speed humps. It is an excuse to keep police
staffing levels low. It is an excuse not to enforce
our speeding laws and actually pull drivers over, which we
know is one of the most powerful ways of getting
guns off the street. From my time as a prosecutor,

(12:07):
you know, it was a very common occurrence for someone
to pull over someone for a traffic infraction, you roll
down the window, the person either smells of alcohol or
marijuana or what have you, do, you have grounds to
get them out of the car and all, look there's
a gun on the front seat. Yeah, and then you
could that's one of the ways you get guns that
you use traffic laws to actually get guns off the street.
We don't do that anymore per her direction. And you're right. Look,

(12:30):
I mean, you know, I was a prosecutor for many years.
You know, I started that job almost twenty five years
ago this month actually, and you know Fiji. As a
as a police officer back in the in these states,
had I really did have the support of the rank
and file. She comes from a great family of police officers.
I mean, she was out there, you know, on the
street making arrests. She came up through the rank. She

(12:52):
was a police officer for I think thirty one years.
Nobody's going to have anything bad to say about what
she did as a police officer. But as a chief
she went along with this agenda. She had participated in
the really blatantly political vibe that they have in terms
of policing there. She wasn't pushing back publicly. She was

(13:14):
an apologist for this agenda that the mayor has. She
provided political cover for him. And one of the things
that really turned my stomach is she's actually got a
piece of mail just two days ago with one of
the I think one of the most lost City Counse members,
this guy, Mark Jefferies. He's the most out there I
think of the group because he pretends to be like

(13:36):
a business guy but really is part of this woke mess.
And she's like in the campaign literature with them in uniform,
which is blatantly illegal. I mean, she's been playing this
political game with the folks who are supervising her, and
it's just wrong. And I mean, look, if you're going
to live by the swords, you dive of the sword.
She's become a political actor right now, and she's now

(13:57):
her career is going to meet its demise on the
clients because it's politically expedient to get rid of her.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Well, you know what, I'm reminded of George Orwell Animal
Farm and Boxer fought for the cause and died for
the car and ended up being you know, sent off
to the glue factory after serving the cause as one
of the most loyal folks so here she is serving
the aftab provall woke agenda cause not doing law enforcement
the way she understood it and used to do it.
And then because crime is bad and because people aren't

(14:23):
happy with current status law enforcement, she ends up losing
your job. Maybe because of that. Interesting that, Steve Gooden, Well,
I'll tell you what. Porto Wright's a place to find
Steve Gooden for law stuff. Votegodin dot com online to
help him out with the campaign and see upright hand corner.
Donate get involved, maybe due to some door knock and
get us a yard sign.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Steve.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
I wish you all the best. I appreciate you willing
this to come on the show and talk about these issues.
And I think you'd be a welcome welcome edition for
the City of Cincinnati as a council member.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Again, thank you. I think they need a grumpy middle
aged man, that's what I bring. So thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Of appointed Moniker. Thanks Steve good and grumpy man. We'll
have you back on again soon, hopefully before the election.
Again stick around speaking A folks runner for Sincey City Council,
Gary Favors returns the

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