The Truth with John Gordon

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Did that Donald Trump crashing the economy, recession looming.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
What happens next? Watch what happened? Will happen right here.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
On fifty five KRC, the talkstation eight o five a
picky five KRC de talk station. Happy Friday, friend Thomas,
please bring back to the picty five KRC Morning Show,
host of the Truth with John Gordon. Of course it's
John Gordon. John, welcome back to the morning show. It's
great to have you on today.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Thank you very much. It's great to be with you.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, we dive into the news of late I Congress.
A Messu was on my program earlier this week and
he called it and he's like prescient his predictions.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
You know.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
He wasn't in favor of the CR because it continues
funding levels on the on the Biden levels and didn't
cut much at all. So that was why he was
a no vote. He was very explicit and did a
good job of explaining himself in spite of the fact
that drew the IRA of Donald Trump. But it done
the last passed over in the sentence hands and according
to Chucky Schumer, at least before yesterday evening, it was
going to be a no over there, which was going
to result in a government shutdown, butt Chucky. She changed

(00:59):
his tune and the to capitulate, which is exactly what
Massy predicted. I don't know why they were against it anyway,
since the funding levels didn't change your your take on
that one, John.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
They are the party of opposition. If Trump's for it,
they're against it, even if it's what they want. To
your point, it's just lunacy, and frankly, I think they are.
I think they're stark, raving mad. And I like Massy
and what he stands for. I like Rand Paul and
what he stands for. This country is at a tipping

(01:33):
point if we don't get control of federal spending. The
interest patements on the deficit, the loan are now our
single largest line item. That is pure economic waste in
my view. So I understand the cinema. Here's the counter.
Trump is walking a high wire act, and this economy

(01:54):
is fragile. And you take two trillion dollars out of
the economy overnight and it implodes. We would go into
a depression of magnitude that we've never witnessed before. So
Trump wants to balance a budget. He's all for it.
It's going to take some time. It's going to take
a little for mess.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, And you know, I guess the two trillion you're
talking about taking out of the economy is that the
market losses or is that what is coming out of
government by way of you know, propping up various areas
like the green energy projects. If we pull the plug
on that, which the EPA effectively did the other day
as they were promising to do, does that ruin the
economy because there's no longer these artificial government dollar propped

(02:35):
up jobs out there.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
You illustrate the point perfectly. That's it. And you know,
when the economy gets in trouble, what's the first thing
the federal Reserve starts to do. They print money like
drunken sailors. They start issuing bonds, they start buying their
own bonds, and they prop up the economy through what
they call stimulus. Well, if that's if that works, then

(02:58):
the reverse is going to have an ad verse attack.
So you take that money out of the economy, you
plunge us into a recession. So it is going, like
Trump says, it's gonna take some time, but he's committed
to the cause. We'll get there. I think we just attributation.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, it's going to be an interesting world if we
get the government out of our lives and allow the
free markets to prosper and thrive. Will that make up
this government infused fake economy? Like DEI alone is its
own fake economy. You got a lot of people out
there with college degrees and in diversity, equity inclusion. They
need jobs. So what do you do. You mandate these
programs across the entire landscape, which creates new departments and

(03:37):
new divisions within business, But those do not provide any
value in terms of revenue, in terms of creating goods
and services. It's just busy work and it's fake work.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
I think you'sok. The same economics courses I did well.
The government produces nothing. They don't add to G and T.
All they do is spend, and so there's no value
in that, except when they are the job creators. There's value.
But it's fake, it's it's pony, it's short term. But

(04:12):
so if you take two trillion out of the budget
and it's not debt, and you put that money back
in the economy, then muel the economy. But right now
the only alternative is take the deficit out, and that's
what would have the unintended consequence of some bad economic repercussions,

(04:36):
I believe. But if must can reduce the spending through
DOGE and those are real dollars and they go back
into the private sector, watch out, baby, let the good
times roll.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Well, I'm glad you pivoted over to DOGE because they
are revealing that we fund the indefensible. I mean one program,
I mean little here, little there. It all tends to
add up even you know, multi hundreds of thousands of dollars,
you know, seven hundred thousand dollars for studying cannabis use
among sexual, minority, gender diverse individuals. I mean, what the

(05:08):
hell is that all about.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
We've got transgender studies on mice.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
And then I can't believe we're even talking about this.
I know, I feel like a lunatic that we're even
talking about it. Yeah, but these are our federal tax
dollars at work, and it's just absurd. That's why I say,
I think these people have lost their minds. I think
they're absolutely crazy. I know no better descriptive for it.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well, John, I'm convinced more and more every single day
that they are outraged over this and because it's cutting
off his revelations and he's canceling all these grants again.
There's a Agriate Department of Agriculture grant in the San
Francisco Bay area to educate queer trands in bipoc urban
farmers about food justice. I don't even know what the

(05:59):
hell that is. And it's probably so.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
If you're a straight guy and you're a farmer, you
can't get the subsidy.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, but it's urban farmers. I mean, first off, how
many bipock queer trans urban farmers are there collectively in
the United States? But then they could get a grant
to study what they're doing. I didn't even know what
food justice is. But the big concern here all these
USA programs that allegedly go out into the world, you know,
circumcisions in Jakarta or whatever. I'm convinced that that money

(06:28):
never got there, and that didn't accomplish the goal that
it purported to accomplish, even if the goal itself was ludicrous.
But that money remained in Washington for lobbying, dollars that
ended up in the pockets and Democrats to get themselves
reelected or otherwise directly in their pockets.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Joe Biden said, we just sent one hundred and fifty
billion to the Ukraine. What did Zelenski say, where's the
rest of it? I only saw a hundred billion. M h.
I'm telling you, this federal government is rotten to its core.
And I think before it's all said and done, we're
going to trace the money and we're going to find

(07:02):
that it went right back into the pockets of these
lunatic left wing Democrats who have been voting for all
of this irrational spending. And I've said for the last
four years on my radio show, I don't know who
they're governing poor, but as sure as hell is not us,
it is not, and it's going to stop.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
And it's freaking them out. The Doge is actually bringing
this to the American publish attention. This is low hanging fruit stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Again.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
You add it all up, and we're not getting to
that trillion dollar mark, but a little by little. But
you let any Republican or Democrat, any working human being
in the country, and even those that aren't working, they
look at this and they think, just like you and me,
what we're paying for that how is that even possible?
So this is going to bring the House of cards

(07:48):
down at some point, they're not going to go to
justify it.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well, I think that they're on it, and I think
that's why they're launching this campaign against Elon Musk. Where
are the prosecutions, by the way, for the people that
have burned Tesla's and that are used rifles and shot
bullets into dealerships. Yeah, I mean, come on, that is

(08:12):
absolute anarchy. Yeah, some people locked up.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
And he was the darling of the green energy folks
there for a long long time. He was the leader
of the pack. Everybody wanted an Elon Musk Tesla and
now it's demonized because he's shown the world how bad
things are.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Pivoting over to social Security, John, all those social Security
numbers for people who are one hundred and fifty plus
years old, they're still active and therefore probably being used
by some perhaps illegal person in this country with no
work permit to actually go work at a job. I mean,
even if a check isn't going out to that number,
it certainly can be used for nefarious purposes. You know,
PPP grants to eleven year olds. They don't care about

(08:56):
normal business like practices in government. They're not required to
do anything, but then again they're also not required to
be responsible stewards of the American taxpayer dollar.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Well, we sensed it for a long time. Now we've
got plain proof of it. And can you imagine people
railing against Elon Musk because it's eliminating fraud, waste, and abuse.
It is James Carvel said, is that the who you
want to die on as a Democrat, We're going to

(09:26):
oppose that. Yes, I want them to keep doing what
they're doing because their approval ratings continue to plummet. Let
them just put the noose around their necks and let
them tighten it themselves, which is what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Indeed, and I got a kick out of Schumer yesterday. Democrats,
he said, we want the attention to the American people,
not focus on different bills that they will bring to
the floor during the shutdown. They were talking about thirty
day extensions, this and maybe alternatives that to the Republican
c are. We'd rather focus on our message, which is
beginning to work. And I was scratching my head over that.
That's a quote from him. It was like, what message

(10:03):
and apparently it's in his words, they meaning the Republicans
are hurting the middle class to give tax breaks to
the billionaires. That tired old trope is that all they've got.
They have no message.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
John, Well, if you listen to them, their focus is
on the message. They are trying one message. When that
doesn't work, they skip to the next lunatic statement to make.
And it's all about the message. I don't care about
the message. I care about the substance. I want to
curtail government spending. I want to curtail fraud and get

(10:38):
the one hundred and fifty year olds off the social
security roles. If we have to really stand up and
talk about that in the public marketplace for ideas, we
are in serious trouble. I mean, it is self evident.
Just stop the lunacy and start governing to the American
people and then all the problems are solved. Will welcome

(11:00):
and embrace the Democrats into a free exchange for ideas
and stop the gainsmanship because it's killing us.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
It is and one of the big problems with our
country the way it set up is the entitement program,
social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. That's the true existential thread.
Those are set to collapse on themselves and the deficit,
as you point out, we're paying a trillion dollars a
year in interest on this. You know, if we don't
write the ship, there's not going to be a United
States around. The Fiat currency's going to collapse, No one's

(11:28):
going to I want to buy our bonds. We aren't
going to be able to keep this this house of cards,
even standing to the world's demise.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
I think the adults are in the room now. I
am very optimistic that we're going to get things turned around.
You've seen John Fetterman, yeah, abandon the Democratic ship, the
sinking ship. He doesn't want to be on the Titanic,
and others are going to slowly, one by one listen
to reason and do the right thing. It'll take some

(12:02):
process and some time, but I do think we'll get
there eventually. What every Republican in America needs to be
focused on right here and right now is the midterm election.
Since Ronald Reagan, Republicans, well any any sitting president has
lost control of the Congress in the midterm elections. If
we're not focused on that, we're going to wake up

(12:23):
in two years really disappointed that we allowed complacency to
slip back into US national psyching.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Hey man, John Gordon, check it out. Host of The
Truth with John Gordon. Great having you back on the program.
John will be listening to what you have to say
and I'll look forward to having you back on the
morning show sometime.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Thank you so much, And if your listeners would like
to check us out, go to www dot John Gordon
dot TV.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I'm sure they'll do it. Take care of John of
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