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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Seven oh six Here fifty five kars De Talk Station.
Brian Thomas rashin a very happy Tuesday, I hope you
can have on anyway, and looking forward to one hour
from now Inside Scoop with Bright Bart News, we return
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in Israel and giving warplanes to Ukraine in the meantime.
I am so pleased to have in studio a friend
of the City of Cincinnati. He is an astute observer
of matters relating to the city financing and what they're
doing and what they're not doing. Todd Zinzer. He resides
in West Price Hill. He retired as an Inspector General
in the US Department of Commerce after thirty one years
of conducting audits and investigations of federal officials, programs and operations.

(00:58):
He's a certified fraud examiner, which makes him ideally suited
to take a look at this ridiculous reality we're facing
right now. On the heels of selling the railroad, which
was going to solve all our problems in todd Zinzer,
I'm glad to see you in studio. Welcome back, my friend,
Thank you, Brian. No new taxes, No new taxes. Wait,

(01:18):
that's why we sold the railroad, right, no new taxes.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
That's right. Our mailboxes were flooded with flyers and very
boldly stated, and all those flyers was no new taxes.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Were any of those statements attributed to specific public officials, like,
for example, the mayor or? Was this just like a
political action committee bought and paid for by the railroad
to sell this to us, making statements without having elected
officials back them up?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Right? It was basically the political action committee. But you know,
the mayor did star in a number of TV commercials,
and I think we need to go back and look
at those commercials and see if he promised no new
taxes over the television.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Well, let us be honest with ourselves even if he
didn't person and at least say that. I think he
owed the City of Cincinnati's residents and obligation to say, hey, hey, hey,
they're telling you no new taxes. But that is not
necessarily the case, we may indeed look at new taxes,
so we're hoping we don't need to raise them. However,

(02:17):
I have never said that I will not raise taxes.
We heard none of that.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I agree with your Brian. We did not hear any
of that.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Typical politicians. Anyway, you read a great op ed piece.
Of course, raising Cincinnati's earnings tax a bad idea in
the record inflation. I would just put a period after
raising Cincinnai's earnings tax a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yes, there's there's a one point three billion dollar budget
that the city operates. That is a lot of money,
and the idea that we want to raise the earnings
tax zero point one point five or whatever the proposal is.
But they don't tell you how much that's going to raise,
and they don't tell you what we need it for.

(02:56):
They're just going to either sprinkle it along around the
budget or they have on purpose that they want a
fund that they're not telling us about. They really kind
of treat us like children.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
They do. And then when they do say why they
want it, they use, you know, broad, nebulous, undefinable terms,
like to bring investment into the community or something. And
we have no idea what that means.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Right, They're claiming that part of it's going to go
to increase their work on economic development, So they're going
to spend more money on economic development. And they claim
that a piece of it is going to go to
public safety, A very small.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Piece, very small piece public safety.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
But one of the things that I was looking at
was over the next five to eight years, the city
is going to have an income or There's four hundred
million dollars that are going to go into the Western
Hills Wydock. There's two billion dollars that are going to
go into the Brent Spence Bridge, right, There's two hundred

(03:54):
million dollars going into the Convention Center renovation, and all
of that is going to bring in earnings taxes.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
That's true all the construction workers that's working in the
city limits.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Right, and and just emotionally, there's about twenty to forty percent.
It's a wide range, but twenty to forty percent of
that money spent on construction is going to be for salaries.
And it would be somewhat easy to give the citizens
an estimate about how much money we're going to bring
in based on all this construction and that's just the

(04:27):
major construction project.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Good point.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
You see, they've got a couple of major projects up there.
You can have other development across the city. What's that
going to bring in? And if that brings in a
certain amount of money, do we really need a tax increase?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well, I'm certain that we don't. If they just allocated
funds properly and you know, stuck with core good core
services like roads, bridges, infrastructure, public safety, we be fine
with the money we've got. And you know, I'm going
a quest to get Fred's road fixed. I don't know
if you've heard if Fred called it several weeks ago,
self identified black ma and lives in the city of Cincinnati.
We were talking on a national level of politics. He said,

(05:03):
you know what, I just want my street fixed. That
I just want my street fixed. It was like, you know,
damn it. There you go. That's the failure of local government.
They've got more potholes and more decrepit and broken down
roads and bridges and infrastructure they have neglected for years
and years and years, all in favor of throwing money
in some sort of feel good nonsense while everything around

(05:24):
us falls apart. You've got to service and repair and
maintain what you already have in your possession.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Right, So they're going to go around and campaign for
reelections saying that they have fixed the infrastructure project when
not a single pothole has been filled with that railroad money.
And they're going to go around and say we fixed
the housing issue because we passed connected communities and not
a single development has been built based on the rezoning
or the rezoning reform, and it's all ten years down

(05:53):
the road. The benefit of the railway sale is going
to be ten years down the road. The community is
going to be ten years down the road. But they're
going to campaign like they have fixed these problems.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Well, real quickly here revisiting the point of selling the railroad. Now,
we were getting a very comfortable annual lease payment from
the railroad that we own, leasing it to Norfolk Southern Netting,
the City of Cincinnati. What was it twenty five to
thirty five million dollars annually.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, it was. It was going to be under a
new lease, they could have gone up to thirty five
or even forty million.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Dollars, Okay, and that's guaranteed regardless of where the market goes.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
So we sell the railroad. We get one point six
billion dollars and they put it into a managed fund
and the Railroad board manages it right.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Well, they hire a financial outfit to manage the money.
I'm not exactly sure what the board does at this point.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, they have some sort of you know, faux oversight
role and responsibility with managing the financial managers, in other words,
oversight of the firm that they chose to manage some money.
That's right, Charlie Lucan quit. He was one of the
more reliable folks that was on the railroad board. I
at least I believe that maybe an overstatement, but I've
seen the list of folks that are on the board
other than Amy Murray. I'm not sure I get a

(07:06):
whole lot of comfort from them. But he quit, and
what one day later the market tanks?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yes, one day later, and it's a serious crash. It
was a serious crash, and it affected just about every
stock that is out there.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, if you got a four h one K, go
ahead and check your balance, right, and you don't want
to do that necessarily because you're supposed to just let
it go in long term. It but in terms of
what the city might potentially earn. This is not shaping
up to be a real great banner year for the
one point six billion dollar investment. Isn't it right?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
They had a good first quarter and they crowed about that.
But I would like to see somebody come out and
say how much the portfolio lost based on the crash
this week?

Speaker 1 (07:46):
And if we if we continue in many, many, many
people and financial planners and investors lots smarter than I am,
are talking about potential recession.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Now that's right. That would not be good.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
So is it possible, and you're as crunching kind of guy,
is it possible the city will take in less than
what the least payment was that we were getting under
the prior arrangement.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, I hope not. There are controls that were put
into into the statute that limits how much the fund
has to disperse to the city based on the performance
of the portfolio. They are guaranteed a minimum of twenty
five million dollars even if they have to.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Dip into principle. The principle great. Can you imagine this year,
the first year that the funds are supposed to generate
revenue that they actually have to dip into principle right
out of the gate, I hope not you me both
will continue with Todd Zen's or more analysis of this
and the situation since say and let me ask out loud,
sort of a segue into the next segment, what does
economic development mean? Anyway? Pause? Todd Zen's will be back

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Speaker 1 (10:53):
Sevent nineteen fifty five KR Seed Talks station, Very Happy
Tuesday to you in studio Todd Zenzer. Of course he
knows all there is about auditing and investigations of officials
and programs and operations. Certified fraud examiner he is. And
we're talking about the connected communities as well as the
sale of the railroad, and of course economic development, which

(11:13):
is apparently the default words used to describe what they're
going to use the additional property tax money for economic development.
Now that the citizens of the City of Cincinnati are going
to be able to vote on this earnings tax increase.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yes, it requires a change that Cincinnati Charter, and that
requires a vote of the public.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Okay, Now, the city did just recently got that listed
twenty five or so items that they need to be
done to address the global problems in the City of Cincinnati.
Point A to point B. Correct, And among all of
the recommendations in there, one of them was raising the

(11:56):
city earnings tax. That's correct, and that's the only one
that the mayor and others on council have advanced in
order to bring about and write the ship of the
City of Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Right. Sharon Coolidge interviewed the mayor the other day, and
that was the one recommendation that he has weighed in
on the rest. He's kind of how do you refer
to a dodged.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
And yeah, the five d's of dodgeball, Yeah, dodge, dip, duck, dive,
and dodge. And you're right, I read that and it
was indeed, yeah, all right. Now, let's assume for the
sake of discussion here that he gets his way, the
mayor does, and those who are seeking to increase taxes,
how could that possibly result in economic development? You know

(12:38):
what happens if the business is already in the City
of Cincinnati and they have opportunities outside of maybe even
the county where the tax environment and the commute environment
and the parking situation and the overall ability to do
business for less money exists. See Claremont County, Butler County,
Warren County. That's where they go. We just saw that happen.
What was it with P and G or no GEG And.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Don't forget about Newport and Covington and northern Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Oh sorry to my friends in the Commonwealth. Yes, yeah,
hangar open for business owners. They're booming over there, they are.
So you're advertising to the world that it's going to
be more expensive to do business in the City of Cincinnati.
You're going to raise the earning tax. How could that
possibly be a magnet? And what would you do with
the money that could sort of transform that obvious problem

(13:27):
into a plus. How do you spend money to get
people to come into the city of Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Well, it's a good question because one of the other
recommendations of the Cincinnati Futures Commission was to establish an
Office of Strategic Growth and Development I think was the
name of it, and to fund it at ten million dollars. Meanwhile,
they have a Department of Economic Development that gets five
million dollars, and it's I think what they think is

(13:55):
that they if they hire people to go out and
attract businesses and work with businesses directly to kind of
navigate through all the permits and requirements and things like that,
that people or that businesses will come to the city.
Housing developers will develop houses, and they all think that

(14:17):
government is the key to economic development. Government is not
the key to economic development. It's the private sector that's
the key to economic development. Government spending is why we
have inflation. It's not the key to economic development.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Well, and a deteriorating infrastructure and a deteriorating crime situation.
Those are two things that are within the ability of
the city since ninative fix. Yes, six Threads Street, that's right.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
That's right. You have to go out and give the
people the infrastructure they need for their quality of life.
And if you establish a safe city, if you invest
in public safety, fire police, and you build the infrastructure,
it makes the city more attractive. That's what they should

(15:05):
be working on. And one of the good things that
the Cincinnati Futures Commission reported, it's a very difficult report
to read, is the horrendous morass of processes for developers
to go through in the city.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
The bureaucracy is the killer.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
That's correct, and for example on connected communities. The big
justification for that was that the variance process that the
city has is a detriment to development. So we're going
to get rid of the variance process. We're just going
to rezone across the board, and that way housing developers
will not have to come in and deal with the

(15:46):
variance process. Well, that's exactly what the Cincinnati's Future Commission
was criticizing the city for, was their processes. Why not
fix your processes instead of rezoning fifty percent of the city.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
You know, it's just from reminds me of Elmer hens Or,
God love Elmer hens Or, owner Queen City Sausage. And
he's retired now, but he's still alive and kicking. But
he expanded Queen City Sausage. It's an industrial area of town.
There was nothing around other than that type of business.
And all he wanted to do was keep the same area,

(16:19):
just build on and expand his facilities so he could
what maybe hire more people and sell more product and yes,
make more taxable income for the City of Cincinnati. It
took him forever. He wanted to invest, and he got
roadblock after roadblock after roadblock people did no, na no,
And I just for the life and I don't know why.
This isn't like he was building a new sausage factory

(16:41):
in a residential community or something. All he was was
expanding where he was already, and it took him forever.
He had to do it call in special favors from
like Amy Murray or other council people that he had
access to to like greased skids. It should never have
had to have been greased'.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
That's exhibit one, Brian at his exhibit one. And if
the city could just take an issue like that, the
internal processes and focus on that and fix it, that's
probably better than the other twenty four recommendations that the
Cincinnata Futures Commission came up.

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At seven thirty on a Tuesday, and a happy one
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(19:49):
railroad sale. Todd regularly appeared in the Morning Show. He
had done so many numbers crunching and breakdowns of why
selling the road was a bad idea. We were all
sold to bill of goods, and voters of the city
of Cincinnati obviously fell for it because they pract or
they promised no new taxes. And meanwhile, of all the
things that of all the recommendations from this insane futures Commission,
the one thing they've latched onto is raising property tax

(20:11):
or raising the earnings tax, which Todd and I are
have been agreeing together all morning is a really atrocious
bad idea, most notably given the current state of the
economy and the fact that the city residents have all
struggled with property tax increases too. Todd, that's one of
the elements of the inflationary realities we're all dealing with.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Well, one of the things Brian that they stuck into
the budget that they haven't really talked about is that
the city also increased the millage on property taxes. They
were holding to four point one millage and they have
and the charter allows them to go up to six
point one, and they went ahead and they've gone up
to six point one on the millage. So they've also

(20:50):
raised property taxes.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Now, was that increase reflected in the most recent property
tax bills? We got the first ones post triennial or
whatever audit as.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Far as I know, because it's it's in the twenty
four to twenty five budget for the city. So there
was a property tax increase at the city put in
as well, there's just never enough money for them, No,
there isn't, and instead it would just be prudent for
them to start looking for ways to save money. For example,

(21:22):
the city has a green plan. Well, first of all,
the city has plans coming out their ears. Yes, they
plan everything, and they have a green plan that they
have a budget for five million dollars a year. Now,
say what you will about climate change and saving the
planet and things like that, but should we be raising

(21:44):
taxes now during inflation and impending recession? In order to
save the planet, or should we go ahead and take
care of things now and put money into saving the
planet down the road. I think that that's five million
dollars just sitting there for the taking, in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Well, and no one yet has addressed the question of
those who think that, you know, any given city should be,
you know, taking efforts to save the planet. You can't
fight the uphill battle that is China and India and
other major global polluters who continue to rapaciously soak up
all the fossil fuels and coal and use them and
expand their use of those fuels, belching this allegedly evil

(22:27):
carbon into the atmosphere which we all share globally.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
That's right, And I think there are people in the
city or residents that are conscientious about recycling and that's
me saving energy, that's me and all the rest of that,
and that's what we should be promoting, not building ev
charging stations and all the other green plan elements that
they have come up with. And the planning staff costs

(22:55):
one point three million dollars a year. Oh great, And
I don't know what we do with all these plans.
So there's a lot that could be done with the
budget where you could shave off and save some money.
And the idea is to start saving money now, because
the worst thing you could do in a public budget
is start laying off employees. We do not want to

(23:15):
lay off employees. So they should have some plan for
a buyouts or not backfilling positions. They should be prepared
when the recession hits that they don't lay off our
employees because that is not a good, good thing.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Well, and doing a planning strategy along those lines. I'm
going to give credit to let's say Dusty Rhoads. He
gets into the auditor's office and rather than replace the
employees as attrition goes along, he doesn't. He creates a leaner,
better way which requires fewer employees to do the same
amount of work. That's the future. Let's get to that point.
And like you said, don't backfill the employees just because

(23:54):
the space opens up. Evaluate whether the position is really
necessary or not. What kind of value you getting out
of that particular job.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
So maybe they're doing that, but you know what, if
they're doing it, they're not really telling people they're doing.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Well, that's the kind of thing they need to telegraph
to the constituents because that is what we want to hear.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Voters need to see efficiency in government, especially when they
got their handout to ask for more money.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
That's exactly right.

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Traffic continues to build northbound seventy five out of Erlanger
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Ingramont fifty five KRC, The talk station.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Fifty about ker CD talk station Happy Tuesday, Ryan Thomas
with certified fraud examiner, among a back additional background points
to make him eminently qualified to talk about the city
of Cincinnati. Shenanigan's going on here, and I am making
a Shenanigan's declaration. Todd Zenzer and Studio, you make a
great point in your op ed piece, which served as

(27:24):
the springboard for this conversation, raising Cincinnati's earnings tax a
bad idea mid record inflation pausum. Let me interject real
quick here, how likely is it the vote which the
citizens will get on a tax increase? How likely is
it that is eminent? Is it going to be on
the November ballot?

Speaker 2 (27:41):
No, it's too late.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
It's too late, and it's almost like getting rid of
Joe Biden. I think they saw the writing on the wall.
If they're going to ask for an increase in taxes
during this outrageously inflationary period of time, as we may
be going into a recession given what happened in the
market the other day, the likely hood of success is
very limited. So let's wait, keep our powder dry and

(28:03):
try at some other future point.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
I think that's correct.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Will it be a special ballot like and be a
march kind of like a special kind of thing where
people rarely go and vote, so they can get their
just their supporters to the polls. That's possible, great, and
that'd be expected, wouldn't it well consistent with their lack
of community engagement, which you and I were talking about
off air here before the mic came on.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, the problem with the community engagement in connected communities
for example.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
That's where they changed the zoning loss.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yes, it came across as very manipulative because they had
community engagement sessions where people would go and they didn't
talk about rezoning. They talked about what kind of housing
do we want in Cincinnati? Is middle housing which is
the four and six unit apartment buildings? Is that good?

(28:54):
And people say, yeah, that's good. But they didn't talk
about the zoning plants. So people came out of the
community engagement sessions and the city used the information that
they gathered during those sessions to justify the zoning reform
the ordinance itself. And if you went to the public
hearing or the public meetings as city council or the

(29:17):
Planning Commission or the City Committee, the city council committees,
there were people saying, we didn't know, we were talking
about a zoning reform. We thought you were asking us
about housing and what kind of housing we like. And
it was just very very manipulative, and they published of
survey results for example, Well, people would go to the

(29:37):
meetings and they'd say, hey, listen, I went to four
of those planning sessions, so my voice was counted four
times on those surveys. So the whole thing was all
very kind of superficial. It helped their narrative, but it
wasn't really community engagement. And that's what we really need
on any kind of earning sex increase. We need to

(29:58):
know what the numbers are, what they're going to be
to do with the money, and why we can't find
savings and other parts of the cities. One point three billion.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Dollar budget one point three billion dollar budget, which is
eighty four million dollars more than it was a year ago.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
We had to a great point you make in your
op ed piece.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
That's right. We were we have to tighten our belts
during this period of time because of inflation, and we
don't see the city tightening their belts. That's right. They
get more money to cover their inflationary costs. And it's
just it's just not fair.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, we don't get that.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
No, we don't.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
How much of this budget related stuff I'm gonna use
that word has a connection to the ending of COVID
nineteen money.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Well, the city I think that the last amount of
that money is called the American Rescue Plan. The last
of that money I think was in the twenty three
or twenty for a budget.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
And so we got used to that money, didn't we.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yes, And you know that's a problem. When I went
to NKU and got my degree in political science at NKU,
and this was the late seventies, and one of my
assignments was to go out and interview a city official
about revenue sharing. Remember revenue sharing. It was a Nixon
thing where they were just making these block grants the cities.

(31:26):
And so I went out and interviewed the mayor of Chiviot,
and the mayor of Chiviot said, I'm not taking that
revenue sharing because when that ends, I'm going to be
stuck holding the bag to fund these programs that I
funded with revenue sharing.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Great, great point. That's the same thing that happened with Clinton.
Remember he one hundred thousand police officers we paid for
well you paid for him for the first payment, but
they were stuck with the price of paying the officers
salary every year there after. That's right, it's the reality
you'd taken it.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
So the city has a what they call leverage support
where they have dozens and they spend millions and millions
of dollars on it. And these are a nonprofits in
the city or other community development organizations where the city
gives them money. It's like grants. And if you remember,

(32:15):
mister Jeffries at some point was suggesting that members of
city council go and sit on the boards of these
organizations to provide some direction or oversight or whatever was
his his idea was, but that's a terrible idea. You
don't take elected officials and put them on these boards.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Especially when the boards have their handout. Their existence depends
upon the vote of that very elected That's.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Exactly right, Brian. And so I don't know if he's
going to pursue that, but that's a terrible idea as well.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
They said that's sort of I mean a legitimate direct
conflict of interest with the council member. Well, they couldn't
vote on anything related to funding for an organization on
which they in which they sit on the board. I
just find that to be an ethical violation.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
That would be That would be my view as well, Brian.
That And not only that, but when the member of
council sits on the board, the board's going to do
whatever that member of council wants. It's not it's no
longer an independent board. So there's lots of lots of
problems with that suggestion. But these these leverage support organizations,

(33:15):
they come to rely on that city money also, so
when this if the city has to cut their budget
and these leverage support organizations get cut it, it's also
detrimental to what their missions are. They're they're they're relying
on that money.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Now, well, who said that government money is a sure thing.
If you're in the business in an NGO and your
business model is to rely on a grant from government,
then I would say you have a poor business model.
You're not providing a good or service that people out
in the world are willing to pay for. You exist
on stealing taxpayer dollars from a labor in order for

(33:54):
you to continue with your well, probably very very handsomely
paid non profit or organization's salary.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Right. Well, the benefit to the city of these leverage
support groups is that they it's not a city function anymore,
it's not a function of the city government. They pawn
that off to these NGOs or these nonprofits, and theoretically
it should make it easier to cut them off if
they run in if they run into budget problems, they

(34:23):
cut that off. But the way it works locally in
politics is that if they cut these organizations off, now,
that's gonna that's gonna hurt them politically.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yes, they're going to be uh, you know, fighting against
the re election of whoever was responsible for cutting off
that funding.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Their political lives depend upon these ngs. Yes, Cheez Louise,
what a coossally coossally And I'll be delicate here in
light of the SCC screwed up arrangement. One more of
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(35:44):
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an isolated chance of rain eighty five with clouds tomorrow.
Possible isolated rain just partly these guys. Every night going
down to sixty seven, and Thursday's going to be mostly
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(36:05):
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(36:31):
in Bend seventy four backs above Montana Chuck Ingramont fifty
five KRC detalk station.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Seven fifty one coming up at some fifty two fifty
five KRCIT talk station. Real appreciate todds Inster being in
studio certified fraud examiner. He is, we're talking about and again.
Shenanigan's in the City of Cincinnati got a commission report,
a whole bunch of things to do, twenty five things.
They went with a one thing that is probably the
worst idea, and that's increasing the earnings tax. You're not
going to be voting on it anytime soon because as

(37:02):
we've discussed, timing couldn't be worse for that. But questions
swirling around, as we've talked about with Todd his op
ed piece, what are they gonna use the money for it?
We don't know? What is economic development? We don't know?
And is there any oversight with the money. We're just
talking about all this money flowing out the non governmental
organizations and are we really getting a return on investment
for those? Todd, you mentioned connected communities as well, and

(37:24):
before we part company, I guess the fat Lady hasn't
sung when it comes to even though it's past connected
communities and the changing of the zoning you said, there's
an opposition for us growing out there.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Right there's a group called the Coalition for Better Cincinnati.
Their website is since he be uh sorry, I'm not sure,
it's Coalition for Better for Better Cincinnati dot org. And

(37:57):
it's got some legs. It's got people on the coalition
from all over the city and a number of different neighborhoods,
and they're looking at what their options are. It basically
comes down to a couple of different options. They're looking
at legal options as well as a ballot issue option

(38:17):
and they're just forming right now and they've had an
organizational meeting, they have another one planned, and I think
that they're going to go around to the community councils,
which were kind of given the big middle finger during
also definitely were and we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
But well that was our when we were talking about
that before it went through some community councils like, yes,
this is something we would like to do here. Let
us be a test market to see if it works,
and others were saying, no, we don't want to change
the dynamic of our community and have you know six
flat units, you know, popping up next to residential homes
and single family homes. So I get the arguments on
the back, back and forth, but they were left out

(38:57):
of the process.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yeah, I'm sorry for screwing up the website. It's cbsince
he dot.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Org, cbsince dot org. Yeah, well, you've raised a lot
of interesting points here, and I appreciate you doing the
op ed and of course I appreciate you trying to
mind the store on behalf of well you're fellow Cincinnatians,
because not a whole lot of reporting on it, not
a lot of elected officials that want to come out
on the record and you know, hiding the ball from

(39:22):
us regularly time and time again. When the railroad sale,
the connected communities, just seems to me that the idea
of well doing a Joe Biden height in the basement
kind of strategy for all of these is the norm.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, I hope they understand that the the opposition to
the railway sale, the opposition to connected communities. There's a
lot of concern in the city about the way this
city council is operating and the idea of putting an
earning sax on the ballot at that time. I think
they've got an uphill battle.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
There, Todd. I'll leave you with this one final thought
you want. I think they should the best thing they
could do for the city fixed Fred's Road.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Gamn it.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Let bread serve as an illustration. You got a job
to do, damn it. Let's keep the infrastructure from completely
collapsing before we get to the next leg of the
street car toddsz ins Or, I look forward to having
you back in the studio anytime. You got some additional
analysis on the shenanigans going on in the city. God
bless you. For what you do and keeping your eye out. Man,
somebody's got to do it. Thank you, Brian, Thank you,
my friend. Stick around Inside Scoop with the Bright Part

(40:26):
News political editor Emma Joe Morris on the Kamala Harris
career review, Tell him the Truth and Daniel Davis Deep Dive.
Come up at eight thirty. I'll be right back. You're
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