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Speaker 1 (00:11):
It's seven six here at fifty five ker CP talk station,
A very heavy Friday love my Friday show A fifty
five here see morning should I love him and Todd Zenzer.
We're calling him our watchdog as city council as well
as the Kenny Commissioner. Todd Zenser the fifth Inspector General
of the United States Department of Commerce back when he
was sworn in in December of seven. He's got an
amazing background. He does crunch numbers, he does pay attention,
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and he does show up at city council meetings from
time to time. Todd Zenzer, Happy New Year to you,
Welcome back man. It's always great talking with you.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Thank you, Brian, Happy new Year.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Always appreciate your thoughtful and insightful information.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Let us begin, if we may.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I know we got a lot to talk about, including
the shooting information as well as the new arena new
arena anyway, but let's start with since a council meetings.
I understand from our off air con you were there
at the meeting on Wednesday and was the city hard
at work doing city council business relating to matters within
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the city.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Well, you're given an opportunity Theoretically, you're given two minutes
to make public comments before every city council meeting. You
go in, you fill out the card, tell them what
you want to talk about. But for the last year
and four months, the public comment period has been dominated
by supporters of the Palestinians or the people in Gaza,
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and there they're very passionate, they're very emotional when they speak.
There were probably I think there were only six supporters
of Gaza population there on Wednesday, but in meetings past
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there have been dozens who get up and speak. And
the the issue is that the city council has brought
this on itself. That back in October, several days after
the terrorist attacks, the city Council passed a resolution introduced
by the mayor and Mark Jeffries in support of Israel.
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And as a result of that, the supporters of the
Palestinians have come in every week and made a plea
to the city council to condemn Israel and calling for
a boycott or of whatever, not sending any.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Weapons, divesting because the city has such a real tight
connection with the affairs of Israel and Palestine, and of
course the city is in a position to do something
about it.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Right, Well, there are people very upset with the city
council forgetting us in this situation.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Well, I understand that because regardless of where you are
on the situation, you're in favor of Israel, you're in
favor of Palestine, you're in favor of I don't know,
naval contemplation. The city has no control over it. It
is it walked into an issue that it shouldn't have
walked into. This is like a you know, Bud Budweiser
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making the foolish mistake of hiring the transvestite guy to
promote bud light. I mean, why would you enter into
that realm and invite the conversation? I mean, didn't you,
I mean, didn't they anticipate that there might be a
little bit of backlash for them waiting into the controversy.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I don't think. I don't think they did. Brian and
the pointless gesture.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Though.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
The result is that the initially the mayor would would
extend the public comment period until everybody was done, including
members of the public who want to talk about city issues,
But on Monday he announced that he was going to
stick to the rules of the council. That were enacted
or passed back when the back when the council started
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in twenty two, and it extends the public comment period
for thirty minutes and everybody gets two minutes, and if
the thirty minutes is over and there's people waiting to talk,
they'll just have to come.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Back next week. Sorry, sucks to be you.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
They get on the list. So fortunately the meeting on
Wednesday was not that well attended and there was only
like three or four of us other than the supporters
of the people in Gaza. So we all got a
chance to speak, to speak.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
To matters relating to the cities affairs and things over
which council has control, right like snow removal for example.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, so which they all were patting themselves on the
back about how well they were doing in snow removal.
I mean, there's no nobody who's raising their hands saying,
well what about didn't we just hear that Mount Adams is.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
So it's just because they have anybody from Mount Adams
show this whoa whoa whoa.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
So, But the city Council doesn't engage in those kind
of conversations.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's all for one and one for all. All right, Well,
how does this work? So ignoring the whole Israel Gaza thing.
And again they stepped in that for and got themselves
in a jam that in passing a resolution that ultimately
has zero impact or point. But you want to talk
about an issue, or you raise the issue of let's say,
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snow removal, you get your two minute comment period.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I live in Mount.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Adams and you guys didn't shovel a single street up there.
And are they required as a body to respond to
that or do they just listen, nod attentively, and when
the comment period is over, move on to whatever's on
the agenda in front of them, in other words, not
addressing the specifics of the challenges that people bring up.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
In front of them. Right, it's the latter, Brian, I
figure that so.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
And the thing you look for is whether or not
they're even paying attention to you, because they can.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Pull their phones, their phones out, look at their phones.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
But I do think they were fairly attentive during my
two minutes when I was talking about the shootings in
Price Hill, because there were six or seven of them
over the New Year's holiday or New Year's week, and
that's not normal.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And I know, we're we're definitely going to focus on
that in detail when we come up after the next break.
But insofar as the agenda items on the council's agenda,
did they have anything that, you know, that had a
point or that was going to that it is going
to impact the population the city of Cincinnati?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I mean, what were they focused on?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Actually was the shortest meeting I'd ever been to.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It was.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
It was over by like twenty minutes after two. The
only I guess they're setting up things for the coming year.
But the only thing on the on the agenda, for example,
ample they had anything to do with money was getting
approval to apply for a one hundred thousand dollars grant
from Bloomberg Philanthropics for youth climate change.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Oh Lord program.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
And I guess it's an existing program in the city
now that I guess Bloomberg has funded it, I don't
really know, But that's the kind of thing spending resources
on applying for grants is a big, big thing in
the city of Cincinnati. They apply for a lot of
grants federal, state, private philanthropic organizations.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Well, considering you know, time translates to money because of salaries,
and you know people behind the scenes that have to
fill out paperwork and all that. What have you ever
done any number crunching on how much time and effort
goes into let's say, applying for a one hundred thousand
dollars grant from Bloomberg. I mean, do they spend fifty
thousand dollars worth of time, effort and energy applying for
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one hundred thousand dollars grant?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Is it something along those lines?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Well, I do not believe the city has a cost
accounting system in place where they can tell you how
much time people are spending on what task. For example,
on connected communities, they said they were working on that
for two years. They've got a hundred person not a
hundred person, Yeah, about one hundred person planning staff, all right, but.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
So paid positions.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yes, they spend over a million dollars on planning alone
in terms of people and resources. So you don't know
how much time any of these employees are spending on
any task. But I don't really know how you can
manage without that.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So the.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Point that I don't think people spend a lot of
time thinking about is in business, it takes money to
make money, right, We've all heard that absolutely in government,
it takes money to spend money, and so they it's
a it's a self fulfilling thing. The more government grows,
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or the more they spend, the more the government grows,
it never ends.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Right because unlike a business, they just take from the
taxpayer's labor and in the form of taxes.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
That's right, that's exactly right, and and it's it's not
a money making entity. It is designed.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Government by its nature is designed to I guess, spend
where the private market wouldn't otherwise spend, because they're spending
money on nonprofitable things or things that they try to
tell you will ultimately be profitable because of the economic
impact of say building a multi billion dollar stadium or something.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
So again, the more they go after these kind of
funding sources, grants and things like that, the bigger the
government grows.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
And as if there weren't enough climate change programs out
the world that they need to chase down those dollars.
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Speaker 1 (13:02):
If about ker City Talks talk station. Sorry, former Spector
General Todd Zinser, he's We're called Inspector General for the
City of Cincinnati. And pivoting over to the crime statistics
that you just alluded to in the last segment, Todd
z Enser, Uh, not looking really good from a crime
perspective in the City of Cincinnati, judging from the data
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and statistics about the city. So let's break down the
information you brought in, Todd, because again this is what
you brought up at council on Wednesday, and your your
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specific point in the comment period was well.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I raised three issues I had. I had sent an
email to the mayor and the city council members and
the city manager asking what is going on? I mean,
why why isn't anybody coming out going to the microphones
for West Price Hill, East Price Hill, Lower Price Hill
to tell us what's going on with these shootings? And
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so that was number one, Why don't we ever hear
from anybody when an unusual violence like this occurs. Number two,
I told them that nobody really has confidence in your
crime data. We're told that crime is going down. In fact,
I got a response from one member of council, Anna Albie.
That's the first thing. Well, the first thing she did
was blame the state legislature for something. And then she
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said that she said that it's getting better, right, it says, well,
it doesn't feel better. People aren't experiencing that crime is
going down, they're experiencing that crime is going up. And
then the third point I made was last year the
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city consolidated two police districts, District three, which covers the
west Side in District five, which is like Northcote at
Chill On Westwood, they combine those into one district. Well,
that's almost half the city, it sure is. And I said, well,
has there been an assessment of that. We ought to
revisit this whole consolidation thing, because for a police officer
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to speak, it from one end of the district to
the other end of the districts I'm going to take
if forty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So giving an opportunity for the perpetrator to sort of
maybe leave the area perhaps.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, so I thought we should revisit that whole consolidation. Well,
after I was finished with my public comments, I did
talk to a couple of the council members and was
told that there is a reassessment or an assessment of
that consolidation that they're expecting very soon. So that's one
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thing that they're going to do that is in the
right direction.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Well, the idea that they're even looking at it, I
suppose is the only step in the right direction you
can pull. That's what they actually conclude or come up
if by way of assessment. We have to wait and see, right.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
So I did wind up speaking to somebody on our
community council and they related that youth violence is down.
But when you go to the data reports online, they
don't show any data concerning youth violence. It's it doesn't
go down to that level. So I don't know how
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they know that.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Okay, so you have to take their word for it
on that one element of crime. But then the broader
thing is they can say, well crime's going down, you
have to actually have a police officer respond and fill
out a report in order for it to be documented.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Correct, That's right.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
And my understanding is it given the pathetically low morale
rate of the police department and the fact that they
know prosecutors perhaps now under the new administration as well
as the woke judges aren't really going to do anything
about it. They have a well screw it kind of
approach to going after criminals.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I think that's a I think that's a real issue, Brian.
And so when I when I suggested that we conduct
an audit of the data. That is one of the
things you would look at is how are we collecting
this For example, what is a shooting, what constitutes the
shooting in their records, and how consistent are they and
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coding the data in their system. And I think factors
like the ones you just brought up with with how
the police are actually keeping the data for us.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah, I think that's a real issue.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Right, So, somebody's kids got a gun, fires it, maybe
hopefully doesn't hit anybody, and the cop cruises by it.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
All right, son, break it up, move along, you know,
and that it's a crime.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
But and I maybe this may be an exaggerated sort
of scenario, but that's the kind of thing that won't
result in anything. So youth youth committing violence, maybe committing
an active vandalism or riding a trail bike across the
public parks or something. If the cops don't interact with them,
then there's nothing there, even though the citizenry is well
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aware this kind of thing is going on because they
can see with their very eyes.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
All right, we'll bring Todd Zenzer back to talk more
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Seven thirty one.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Fifty five KRCD talk station and Brian Thomas Smith in studio,
Former Inspector General Todd Zenzer, who's always keeping his eye
on the figures and the numbers, the antics of Cincinna
City Council as well as the county commissioners. And we
will touch upon county county issues here shortly. But let's
continue with the crime statistics. And you know, obviously reporting
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is a significant problem. Maybe they'll be looking into how
things are reported. Like to think they might do a
reshuffle of matters over in the CINCINNTI Police Department given
the low morale. Are we still low on police officers time?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I think the budget number is about one thousand and
eighty nine. Is the staffing level they want to get
to and I think they're down in the eight eight
hundred or eight close to nine hundred level.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So are are are they doing recruit classes? Are they
trying to hire and just having difficult time getting people
to want to become police officers or the money there?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
You know, I do think that they did something about
the last training class where they postponed it or they
did something like that, but I'm not really sure what
the status of all that is.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Okay, well, how about I know this idea has been
floated around and actually experimented on in other cities. How
about paying people to not commit crime? That actually was
something that they talked about.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Well, they not only talked about it, but they are
propriated two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars to I
guess contract with a group called it's called Advance Peace,
and it's an outfit out of San Francisco where they've
got six or seven cities in San Francisco where they've
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tried this program and it it almost sounds like something
that your religious institutions would be involved in in the past,
where they go out and they try to counsel of
at risk youth and youth involved in violence, and it's
a it's a mixture of you remember the scared straight
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's kind of the flip
of that. Instead of bringing troubled youth or at risk
youth into a prison to show what it's like, to
show them what the future could be if they if
they don't get on the right path, they actually are,
this program pays a select number of youth to not
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commit crimes and instead turn around and help them reach
out to the community.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
It just sounds so stupid in so many levels. Yeah, so, okay,
we're subcontracting this agency, this organization. We retain them for
a quarter of a million dollars. Then they in turn,
we'll get money from the city to pay the kids
not to commit crimes. So there's an added ongoing expenditure there.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
That's part of the two seventy five.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Oh okay, so after this peace organization gets it slice
that leaves even less money. How many youth can you
actually reach out to and how much do you have
to pay a kid to not commit crime?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I think it was like one thousand dollars a month
or so.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Oh wow, And they the pro they were working, you know, right,
I mean just like fast food job or something like that,
which is where a lot of people start out their
work career. If they were busy at work, it could
earn that much money, be contributing to society and not
have an opportunity to commit crime because they're at work, right,
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So just saying.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
The similarity to scarage straight instead of going into the prison,
this program was actually started by guys who had been
to prison, who knew what prison life was like. But
they come out to the community and engage in counseling
and all of this outreach to the youth in a
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neighborhood or in a portion of the city. And it's
all very ill defined at this point as far as
I can tell.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
All Right, going back to is there even a police
report to find a quote unquote troubled youth? Wouldn't that
suggest that they've already had an interaction with law enforcement
so you could identify who someone is that's likely to
commit a crime.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I do believe that that is part of the program.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Okay, so first you got to find the troubled youth.
Then you work out this relationship where you're paying them
a thousand dollars a month to not commit crime. Now,
assuming that you've actually got picked up by the police
for being involved in some sort of criminal activity, do
they have to disgorge the money that they were paid
up to that point in time. And how likely is it,
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blood from alternative that you would be able to get
the money back assuming they have that obligation.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, I don't think you would look forward to getting
that money back, Brian.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
That's why I always ask questions I know the answer to,
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Speaker 1 (27:48):
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a happy Friday to you. We're gonna have Keegan Corcoran
on our resident Wine Extra. He doesn't live here, but
like to call him that anyway. Our SUMMOI friend Keegan
good Man. He is why dry January hurts the hospitality
and retail business. He had a social media post on
that it caused a bit of a stir, so Keegan
to join us at eight oh five to talk US.
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I guess toos about why we should continue to drink
in January and a former US Inspector General Todd Zenzer
and studio going through these crime statistics and before we
move away maybe from crime and start talking about getting
a new arena, the program to pay youth not to
commit crimes?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Do we have any evidence that even works?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Is?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I mean, it's preposterous sounding.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Well, the only thing that I did was went back
to the there's eleven cities nationwide where this outfit has operated.
So I went and did some research on crime in
each of those cities, and the headlines all look the same.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
It doesn't.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
You don't see any headlines about drastic reductions in youth crime.
But in there this outfit got a two million dollar
grant from the Department, the US Department of Justice in
twenty twenty three to fund activities and he's eleven cities
and in their grant application they claim that they prevented
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one hundred and thirty four shootings or firearm incidents and
saving partner cities sixty seven to two hundred and sixty
eight million dollars.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Those are sphincter inspired statistics. Todd, There is no way
in God's green Earth you can know that you prevented
any individual from going out and acquiring and using a firearm.
I mean, here's your check, young man, don't commit crimes, okay,
And so that one kid abides and doesn't commit a crime.
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Is that to suggests that that kid would have actually
gone out and shot somebody but for the check?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah? Well, I mean that's nonsense.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Unfortunately, I don't think the Department of Justice went in
and verified that information before they gave them two million dollars.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Well, you can't verify information that is pulled out of
someone's finer.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah. I don't know how you measure that, Brian. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I just sometimes my brain just can't process the epic
level of stupidity things like this represent. Yeah, these are
ideas that I guess council has been convinced. Is this
group come into cities sort of like a lobbying group
and convince members of these various councils that this is
the right thing to present?
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Well, I think that's a good question, Brian. But nobody
on the council we got nine people on council. One
person brings this forward and it's like, well, is anybody
asking any questions about where this outfit came from? How
we came to know about them. I get the impression
that you know, they have a network around the country,
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They know that this particular council member is sympathetic to
the cause, and they approach her and work something out.
But how it comes to be as a very very
good question.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Well, I think everybody's sympathetic to the idea about stopping crime.
But if you lack logic and reason and critical thinking skills,
then you can be convinced that something like this is
a good idea. The problem is we don't have people
intellected capacity that have critical thinking skills and think along
the lines of hm, let me just test the theory
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with a few questions right now, like where did you
get that crimes that that didn't happen?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Information?
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
So, I think there are probably people on council that
can think like that, but because they don't, it's one
one for all and all for one on the city council.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
There's very little dispute going, which paints them all as idiots.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, I mean I would if I'm a Democrat or
something and I'm sitting in an all Democrat council and
someone comes with dumb idea. You know, stupid is as
stupid does. Dumb is dumb is dumb. You're not taking
me down that road. Can it be labeled as an idiot?
I've got a I'm calling a red flag here on
behalf and in the name of the reputation of our party.
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You know you could be a real patriot by standing
up the stuff like this. Let's stop, Let's talk arena
when we come back with Todd Zen's or one more
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Speaker 2 (34:13):
The talk station seven.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
If you've got kercity talk station, Tryan Thomas in studio
with Todd Zenzer closing out the hour talking about city
council and city issues generally speaking, and former inspector General
and watchdog for the collective here in the Hamilton County
generally speaking, and also can give us an analysis on
first off, was it first Star Arena right fka the Coliseum. Yeah,
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I've seen a gazillion shows there. I remember the since
a Stingers were in town. I've seen hockey games play there.
Not the best venue acoustically speaking, but it has it
outlived its useful life. Is it's still functional as a venue?
Do we need a new rena which is what they're
talking about just generally speaking.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Yeah, So the regional Chamber of Commerce issue a report
back in November, uh and the report was all slanted
towards needing.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
A new arena to draw well. They want to bring
in bigger names.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
They want to tie the new convention center to things
going on in the arena, and it's it's kind of
trying to boost Cincinnati to another level of entertainment or
conventions and things like that, similar to Louisville. Louisville has
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a big arena down there, the what is it, the
Yum Yum or KFC uh.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I lose track of the naming rights.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
But they the report that they put together, of the
study they put together, did identify you know, peer cities
and the the stadium or colisseum type venues compared to
Heritage Center, and it all makes the Heritage Center look bad.
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But what's interesting is that after they issued their report,
the Heritage Center claimed that there that the Chamber of
Commerce data was not correct that they didn't. They didn't
report the correct data about the number of events at
the Heritage Center and things like that, and the other
thing that came to mind when I looked at the report.
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It was very similar to the Cincinnati Futures Commission, which
is which was basically dead on arrival with the city
as far as we know, or it's gone underground for now,
and it's very notional. It's like, if this happens, we
could do this, if this law passes, we could get
this type of funding. And what they did is they
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constructed on paper the type of facility that they.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Wanted, their dream facility.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yes, and then they went back to Heritage Center and says, well,
we can't fit that kind of facility where the Heritage
Center is currently located. Instead of saying, well, we've got
this location down on the river, what kind of facility
can we put there, uh, you know, to get to
where we want to go, they did.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
They didn't do that. And so that's what.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yesterday or the day before, the group down at the banks,
there's actually a group that runs the banks, they came
out with their own plan and they claimed that they
could fit a bigger facility on that same location right there. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
And the.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
The thing is that if you move the Colisseum or
the arena, yeah, over to the OTR area or wherever
Birding wants to put it.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Well, there's talk about the west end, right, yeah, and
then that would be the west side. That would also
includes maybe the area around the new convention center, right.
And then there's over the Rhine as a possibility where
they're going to put it next to the hard rockets.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Se.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
I think that yeah, there's a there's a location up
near a hard figure, but you know that the powers
of b want to.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Put it over there next to what is t yeah,
the soccer venue. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
But if they leave the banks, if the arena leaves
the Banks, that's going to impact the businesses located at
the Banks. Were kind of we've spent all these resources
developing that area and now we're going to take one
of the venues that we build up there and do
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away with it. And so the business community at the
Banks came out the other day and they have an
alternative proposal. And the mayor he's kind of swaying. He
originally said we didn't need a new arena. Then he
said that, well I could be persuaded otherwise. And now
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he's saying, well, I have to figure out how we
would pay for it, all right.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
I was waiting for that because that was gonna be
my next question.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Whether it's there over on the West End or any
place else in the Cincinnati area, pick a spot anywhere.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Is there money to build it?
Speaker 3 (39:39):
No, they'd have they'd have to borrow it, or they'd
have to somehow get the money from somewhere. But I
would interfere with the second leg of the streetcar. Todd, Well,
I'm sure streetcar funding isn't there somewhere.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Todd sends there.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
You know, it's humorous, it's comical, but this is real stuff,
and it's going on right now by our elected officials,
and it just leads me to wonder whether they really
have a handle on how to run government, because you know,
I know every one of my listeners can cite their
favorite road that has not been paved or repaired in years.
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I always joke about Sunset. That thing has been a nightmarish,
you know, import from some war zone for fifteen years
or so, and it has been fixed. And every year
the number of roads that have gone unrepaired gets longer.
And longer and longer. I mean, you got to take
care of the stuff you've got before you start trying
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to buy new stuff and things. And no one seems
to care a wit about what we've got. Going back
to like the broken windows theory, it's all broken out there.
Let's start repairing some windows. Todds Inzer, thank you for
being the watchdog on behalf of the Hamilton County voters
and the residents of the city of Cincinnati, and of
course outside observers who might want to learn from the
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mistakes that we've made so they don't do it themselves.
New Year team, my friend, look forward to having you
on again throughout the year.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Just hold your hand up when there's something else that
pops up you want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
It's seven fifty six.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Stick around, we're gonna get We're gonna hear from Keegan
Corker and our wine Smoer. Actually kind of redundant when
I say that, why dry January is bad for the
hospitality and retail business. Plus reject Rebecca Serando's going to
the door. Brother, I'm gonna talk about a Highlands for
child protection. Dwine finally signed the legislation into law. It
took a long time to pass. We'll recap that journey
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with Rebecca at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
It's a new year, new resolutions, new promises. This is
a real world impact. I'm the same from Washington. It's
just another year of keeping you informed. Fifty five KRC,
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It's seven six here at fifty five ker CP talk station,
A very heavy Friday love my Friday show A fifty
five here see morning should I love him and Todd Zenzer.
We're calling him our watchdog as city council as well
as the Kenny Commissioner. Todd Zenser the fifth Inspector General
of the United States Department of Commerce back when he
was sworn in in December of seven. He's got an
amazing background. He does crunch numbers, he does pay attention,
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and he does show up at city council meetings from
time to time. Todd Zenzer, Happy New Year to you,
Welcome back man. It's always great talking with you.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Thank you, Brian, Happy new Year.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Always appreciate your thoughtful and insightful information.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Let us begin, if we may.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I know we got a lot to talk about, including
the shooting information as well as the new arena new
arena anyway, but let's start with since a council meetings.
I understand from our off air con you were there
at the meeting on Wednesday and was the city hard
at work doing city council business relating to matters within
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the city.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Well, you're given an opportunity Theoretically, you're given two minutes
to make public comments before every city council meeting. You
go in, you fill out the card, tell them what
you want to talk about. But for the last year
and four months, the public comment period has been dominated
by supporters of the Palestinians or the people in Gaza,
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and there they're very passionate, they're very emotional when they speak.
There were probably I think there were only six supporters
of Gaza population there on Wednesday, but in meetings past
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there have been dozens who get up and speak. And
the the issue is that the city council has brought
this on itself. That back in October, several days after
the terrorist attacks, the city Council passed a resolution introduced
by the mayor and Mark Jeffries in support of Israel.
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And as a result of that, the supporters of the
Palestinians have come in every week and made a plea
to the city council to condemn Israel and calling for
a boycott or of whatever, not sending any.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Weapons, divesting because the city has such a real tight
connection with the affairs of Israel and Palestine, and of
course the city is in a position to do something
about it.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Right, Well, there are people very upset with the city
council forgetting us in this situation.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Well, I understand that because regardless of where you are
on the situation, you're in favor of Israel, you're in
favor of Palestine, you're in favor of I don't know,
naval contemplation. The city has no control over it. It
is it walked into an issue that it shouldn't have
walked into. This is like a you know, Bud Budweiser
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making the foolish mistake of hiring the transvestite guy to
promote bud light. I mean, why would you enter into
that realm and invite the conversation? I mean, didn't you,
I mean, didn't they anticipate that there might be a
little bit of backlash for them waiting into the controversy.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I don't think. I don't think they did. Brian and
the pointless gesture.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Though.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
The result is that the initially the mayor would would
extend the public comment period until everybody was done, including
members of the public who want to talk about city issues,
But on Monday he announced that he was going to
stick to the rules of the council. That were enacted
or passed back when the back when the council started
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in twenty two, and it extends the public comment period
for thirty minutes and everybody gets two minutes, and if
the thirty minutes is over and there's people waiting to talk,
they'll just have to come.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Back next week. Sorry, sucks to be you.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
They get on the list. So fortunately the meeting on
Wednesday was not that well attended and there was only
like three or four of us other than the supporters
of the people in Gaza. So we all got a
chance to speak, to speak.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
To matters relating to the cities affairs and things over
which council has control, right like snow removal for example.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, so which they all were patting themselves on the
back about how well they were doing in snow removal.
I mean, there's no nobody who's raising their hands saying,
well what about didn't we just hear that Mount Adams is.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
So it's just because they have anybody from Mount Adams
show this whoa whoa whoa.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
So, But the city Council doesn't engage in those kind
of conversations.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's all for one and one for all. All right, Well,
how does this work? So ignoring the whole Israel Gaza thing.
And again they stepped in that for and got themselves
in a jam that in passing a resolution that ultimately
has zero impact or point. But you want to talk
about an issue, or you raise the issue of let's say,
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snow removal, you get your two minute comment period.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I live in Mount.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Adams and you guys didn't shovel a single street up there.
And are they required as a body to respond to
that or do they just listen, nod attentively, and when
the comment period is over, move on to whatever's on
the agenda in front of them, in other words, not
addressing the specifics of the challenges that people bring up.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
In front of them. Right, it's the latter, Brian, I
figure that so.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
And the thing you look for is whether or not
they're even paying attention to you, because they can.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Pull their phones, their phones out, look at their phones.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
But I do think they were fairly attentive during my
two minutes when I was talking about the shootings in
Price Hill, because there were six or seven of them
over the New Year's holiday or New Year's week, and
that's not normal.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And I know, we're we're definitely going to focus on
that in detail when we come up after the next break.
But insofar as the agenda items on the council's agenda,
did they have anything that, you know, that had a
point or that was going to that it is going
to impact the population the city of Cincinnati?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I mean, what were they focused on?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Actually was the shortest meeting I'd ever been to.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It was.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
It was over by like twenty minutes after two. The
only I guess they're setting up things for the coming year.
But the only thing on the on the agenda, for example,
ample they had anything to do with money was getting
approval to apply for a one hundred thousand dollars grant
from Bloomberg Philanthropics for youth climate change.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Oh Lord program.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
And I guess it's an existing program in the city
now that I guess Bloomberg has funded it, I don't
really know, But that's the kind of thing spending resources
on applying for grants is a big, big thing in
the city of Cincinnati. They apply for a lot of
grants federal, state, private philanthropic organizations.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Well, considering you know, time translates to money because of salaries,
and you know people behind the scenes that have to
fill out paperwork and all that. What have you ever
done any number crunching on how much time and effort
goes into let's say, applying for a one hundred thousand
dollars grant from Bloomberg. I mean, do they spend fifty
thousand dollars worth of time, effort and energy applying for
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one hundred thousand dollars grant?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Is it something along those lines?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Well, I do not believe the city has a cost
accounting system in place where they can tell you how
much time people are spending on what task. For example,
on connected communities, they said they were working on that
for two years. They've got a hundred person not a
hundred person, Yeah, about one hundred person planning staff, all right, but.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
So paid positions.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yes, they spend over a million dollars on planning alone
in terms of people and resources. So you don't know
how much time any of these employees are spending on
any task. But I don't really know how you can
manage without that.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So the.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Point that I don't think people spend a lot of
time thinking about is in business, it takes money to
make money, right, We've all heard that absolutely in government,
it takes money to spend money, and so they it's
a it's a self fulfilling thing. The more government grows,
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or the more they spend, the more the government grows,
it never ends.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Right because unlike a business, they just take from the
taxpayer's labor and in the form of taxes.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
That's right, that's exactly right, and and it's it's not
a money making entity. It is designed.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Government by its nature is designed to I guess, spend
where the private market wouldn't otherwise spend, because they're spending
money on nonprofitable things or things that they try to
tell you will ultimately be profitable because of the economic
impact of say building a multi billion dollar stadium or something.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
So again, the more they go after these kind of
funding sources, grants and things like that, the bigger the
government grows.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
And as if there weren't enough climate change programs out
the world that they need to chase down those dollars.
Will continue with Todd Zenzer our watchdog collective watchdog over
local government. After I mentioned affordable imaging services, was tucking
to my buddy from covers since yesterday John Roman about
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Here's your Channa night. First one to weather forecast.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Winter weather advisories begins at eleven am, last till tomorrow
morning at seven with the snow coming. They stay between
two and maybe five inches that are starting around eleven
this morning. Snow will ended by eleven tonight and overnight.
The roads may be covered with snow. Be careful twenty
degrees for the low. Today's high twenty eight twenty eight
to high tomorrow with mostly cloudy skies, overnight low at
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Thotty with a higher thirty two thirteen degrees. Right now,
traffic times from.
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Highway traffic. That's doing fine.
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I'm not seeing any major problems or nomlays to deal
with police activity. Has Kemper blocked off at mill Chuck
Ingram on fifty five KRC the talk station.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
If about ker City Talks talk station. Sorry, former Spector
General Todd Zinser, he's We're called Inspector General for the
City of Cincinnati. And pivoting over to the crime statistics
that you just alluded to in the last segment, Todd
z Enser, Uh, not looking really good from a crime
perspective in the City of Cincinnati, judging from the data
post it and you can find it your cell posts
(13:23):
just search on your search engine city since he with
y Insights, and they've got multiple reports, police call services,
emergency medical service reports, just a whole host of information
and statistics about the city. So let's break down the
information you brought in, Todd, because again this is what
you brought up at council on Wednesday, and your your
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specific point in the comment period was well.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I raised three issues I had. I had sent an
email to the mayor and the city council members and
the city manager asking what is going on? I mean,
why why isn't anybody coming out going to the microphones
for West Price Hill, East Price Hill, Lower Price Hill
to tell us what's going on with these shootings? And
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so that was number one, Why don't we ever hear
from anybody when an unusual violence like this occurs. Number two,
I told them that nobody really has confidence in your
crime data. We're told that crime is going down. In fact,
I got a response from one member of council, Anna Albie.
That's the first thing. Well, the first thing she did
was blame the state legislature for something. And then she
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said that she said that it's getting better, right, it says, well,
it doesn't feel better. People aren't experiencing that crime is
going down, they're experiencing that crime is going up. And
then the third point I made was last year the
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city consolidated two police districts, District three, which covers the
west Side in District five, which is like Northcote at
Chill On Westwood, they combine those into one district. Well,
that's almost half the city, it sure is. And I said, well,
has there been an assessment of that. We ought to
revisit this whole consolidation thing, because for a police officer
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to speak, it from one end of the district to
the other end of the districts I'm going to take
if forty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So giving an opportunity for the perpetrator to sort of
maybe leave the area perhaps.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, so I thought we should revisit that whole consolidation. Well,
after I was finished with my public comments, I did
talk to a couple of the council members and was
told that there is a reassessment or an assessment of
that consolidation that they're expecting very soon. So that's one
(15:51):
thing that they're going to do that is in the
right direction.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Well, the idea that they're even looking at it, I
suppose is the only step in the right direction you
can pull. That's what they actually conclude or come up
if by way of assessment. We have to wait and see, right.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
So I did wind up speaking to somebody on our
community council and they related that youth violence is down.
But when you go to the data reports online, they
don't show any data concerning youth violence. It's it doesn't
go down to that level. So I don't know how
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they know that.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Okay, so you have to take their word for it
on that one element of crime. But then the broader
thing is they can say, well crime's going down, you
have to actually have a police officer respond and fill
out a report in order for it to be documented.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Correct, That's right.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
And my understanding is it given the pathetically low morale
rate of the police department and the fact that they
know prosecutors perhaps now under the new administration as well
as the woke judges aren't really going to do anything
about it. They have a well screw it kind of
approach to going after criminals.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I think that's a I think that's a real issue, Brian.
And so when I when I suggested that we conduct
an audit of the data. That is one of the
things you would look at is how are we collecting
this For example, what is a shooting, what constitutes the
shooting in their records, and how consistent are they and
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coding the data in their system. And I think factors
like the ones you just brought up with with how
the police are actually keeping the data for us.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah, I think that's a real issue.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Right, So, somebody's kids got a gun, fires it, maybe
hopefully doesn't hit anybody, and the cop cruises by it.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
All right, son, break it up, move along, you know,
and that it's a crime.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
But and I maybe this may be an exaggerated sort
of scenario, but that's the kind of thing that won't
result in anything. So youth youth committing violence, maybe committing
an active vandalism or riding a trail bike across the
public parks or something. If the cops don't interact with them,
then there's nothing there, even though the citizenry is well
(18:09):
aware this kind of thing is going on because they
can see with their very eyes.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
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Speaker 2 (20:34):
Seven thirty one.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Fifty five KRCD talk station and Brian Thomas Smith in studio,
Former Inspector General Todd Zenzer, who's always keeping his eye
on the figures and the numbers, the antics of Cincinna
City Council as well as the county commissioners. And we
will touch upon county county issues here shortly. But let's
continue with the crime statistics. And you know, obviously reporting
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is a significant problem. Maybe they'll be looking into how
things are reported. Like to think they might do a
reshuffle of matters over in the CINCINNTI Police Department given
the low morale. Are we still low on police officers time?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I think the budget number is about one thousand and
eighty nine. Is the staffing level they want to get
to and I think they're down in the eight eight
hundred or eight close to nine hundred level.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So are are are they doing recruit classes? Are they
trying to hire and just having difficult time getting people
to want to become police officers or the money there?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
You know, I do think that they did something about
the last training class where they postponed it or they
did something like that, but I'm not really sure what
the status of all that is.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Okay, well, how about I know this idea has been
floated around and actually experimented on in other cities. How
about paying people to not commit crime? That actually was
something that they talked about.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Well, they not only talked about it, but they are
propriated two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars to I
guess contract with a group called it's called Advance Peace,
and it's an outfit out of San Francisco where they've
got six or seven cities in San Francisco where they've
(22:18):
tried this program and it it almost sounds like something
that your religious institutions would be involved in in the past,
where they go out and they try to counsel of
at risk youth and youth involved in violence, and it's
a it's a mixture of you remember the scared straight
(22:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's kind of the flip
of that. Instead of bringing troubled youth or at risk
youth into a prison to show what it's like, to
show them what the future could be if they if
they don't get on the right path, they actually are,
this program pays a select number of youth to not
(23:02):
commit crimes and instead turn around and help them reach
out to the community.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
It just sounds so stupid in so many levels. Yeah, so, okay,
we're subcontracting this agency, this organization. We retain them for
a quarter of a million dollars. Then they in turn,
we'll get money from the city to pay the kids
not to commit crimes. So there's an added ongoing expenditure there.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
That's part of the two seventy five.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Oh okay, so after this peace organization gets it slice
that leaves even less money. How many youth can you
actually reach out to and how much do you have
to pay a kid to not commit crime?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I think it was like one thousand dollars a month
or so.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Oh wow, And they the pro they were working, you know, right,
I mean just like fast food job or something like that,
which is where a lot of people start out their
work career. If they were busy at work, it could
earn that much money, be contributing to society and not
have an opportunity to commit crime because they're at work, right,
(24:07):
So just saying.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
The similarity to scarage straight instead of going into the prison,
this program was actually started by guys who had been
to prison, who knew what prison life was like. But
they come out to the community and engage in counseling
and all of this outreach to the youth in a
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neighborhood or in a portion of the city. And it's
all very ill defined at this point as far as
I can tell.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
All Right, going back to is there even a police
report to find a quote unquote troubled youth? Wouldn't that
suggest that they've already had an interaction with law enforcement
so you could identify who someone is that's likely to
commit a crime.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I do believe that that is part of the program.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Okay, so first you got to find the troubled youth.
Then you work out this relationship where you're paying them
a thousand dollars a month to not commit crime. Now,
assuming that you've actually got picked up by the police
for being involved in some sort of criminal activity, do
they have to disgorge the money that they were paid
up to that point in time. And how likely is it,
(25:16):
blood from alternative that you would be able to get
the money back assuming they have that obligation.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, I don't think you would look forward to getting
that money back, Brian.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
That's why I always ask questions I know the answer to,
but before I ask them. Bill pause will bring Todds
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At eleven am and last on Tomorrow morning at seven am.
The snow will begin in our area around eleven AM,
should taper off by tonight at eleven pm. Look two
to four maybe five five inches of snow accumulation today
high at twenty eight overnight low of twenty Slick roads
careful twenty eight to high tomorrow with cloud mostly cloudy
skies and a partly cloudy night flowing going down to
twenty Sunday, partly cloudie with a high of thirty two
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sixteen degrees.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Right now time for traffic.
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Speaker 1 (27:48):
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in January and a former US Inspector General Todd Zenzer
and studio going through these crime statistics and before we
move away maybe from crime and start talking about getting
a new arena, the program to pay youth not to
commit crimes?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Do we have any evidence that even works?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Is?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I mean, it's preposterous sounding.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Well, the only thing that I did was went back
to the there's eleven cities nationwide where this outfit has operated.
So I went and did some research on crime in
each of those cities, and the headlines all look the same.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
It doesn't.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
You don't see any headlines about drastic reductions in youth crime.
But in there this outfit got a two million dollar
grant from the Department, the US Department of Justice in
twenty twenty three to fund activities and he's eleven cities
and in their grant application they claim that they prevented
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one hundred and thirty four shootings or firearm incidents and
saving partner cities sixty seven to two hundred and sixty
eight million dollars.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Those are sphincter inspired statistics. Todd, There is no way
in God's green Earth you can know that you prevented
any individual from going out and acquiring and using a firearm.
I mean, here's your check, young man, don't commit crimes, okay,
And so that one kid abides and doesn't commit a crime.
(29:43):
Is that to suggests that that kid would have actually
gone out and shot somebody but for the check?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah? Well, I mean that's nonsense.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Unfortunately, I don't think the Department of Justice went in
and verified that information before they gave them two million dollars.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Well, you can't verify information that is pulled out of
someone's finer.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah. I don't know how you measure that, Brian. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I just sometimes my brain just can't process the epic
level of stupidity things like this represent. Yeah, these are
ideas that I guess council has been convinced. Is this
group come into cities sort of like a lobbying group
and convince members of these various councils that this is
the right thing to present?
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Well, I think that's a good question, Brian. But nobody
on the council we got nine people on council. One
person brings this forward and it's like, well, is anybody
asking any questions about where this outfit came from? How
we came to know about them. I get the impression
that you know, they have a network around the country,
(30:49):
They know that this particular council member is sympathetic to
the cause, and they approach her and work something out.
But how it comes to be as a very very
good question.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Well, I think everybody's sympathetic to the idea about stopping crime.
But if you lack logic and reason and critical thinking skills,
then you can be convinced that something like this is
a good idea. The problem is we don't have people
intellected capacity that have critical thinking skills and think along
the lines of hm, let me just test the theory
(31:22):
with a few questions right now, like where did you
get that crimes that that didn't happen?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Information?
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
So, I think there are probably people on council that
can think like that, but because they don't, it's one
one for all and all for one on the city council.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
There's very little dispute going, which paints them all as idiots.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, I mean I would if I'm a Democrat or
something and I'm sitting in an all Democrat council and
someone comes with dumb idea. You know, stupid is as
stupid does. Dumb is dumb is dumb. You're not taking
me down that road. Can it be labeled as an idiot?
I've got a I'm calling a red flag here on
behalf and in the name of the reputation of our party.
(32:08):
You know you could be a real patriot by standing
up the stuff like this. Let's stop, Let's talk arena
when we come back with Todd Zen's or one more
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coming in today. Advisory over tomorrow morning at seven. In between,
we's goin to half between two and maybe five inches
of snow coming down twenty eight degrees for the high today.
Snow will end overnight again around eleventh twenty degrees, be
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low twenty eight to high tomorrow with clowns about over
nine twenty and a partly cloudy Sunday with high of
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Speaker 2 (33:43):
Right now, time for traffic.
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Speaker 2 (34:13):
The talk station seven.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
If you've got kercity talk station, Tryan Thomas in studio
with Todd Zenzer closing out the hour talking about city
council and city issues generally speaking, and former inspector General
and watchdog for the collective here in the Hamilton County
generally speaking, and also can give us an analysis on
first off, was it first Star Arena right fka the Coliseum. Yeah,
(34:41):
I've seen a gazillion shows there. I remember the since
a Stingers were in town. I've seen hockey games play there.
Not the best venue acoustically speaking, but it has it
outlived its useful life. Is it's still functional as a venue?
Do we need a new rena which is what they're
talking about just generally speaking.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Yeah, So the regional Chamber of Commerce issue a report
back in November, uh and the report was all slanted
towards needing.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
A new arena to draw well. They want to bring
in bigger names.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
They want to tie the new convention center to things
going on in the arena, and it's it's kind of
trying to boost Cincinnati to another level of entertainment or
conventions and things like that, similar to Louisville. Louisville has
(35:46):
a big arena down there, the what is it, the
Yum Yum or KFC uh.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I lose track of the naming rights.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
But they the report that they put together, of the
study they put together, did identify you know, peer cities
and the the stadium or colisseum type venues compared to
Heritage Center, and it all makes the Heritage Center look bad.
(36:14):
But what's interesting is that after they issued their report,
the Heritage Center claimed that there that the Chamber of
Commerce data was not correct that they didn't. They didn't
report the correct data about the number of events at
the Heritage Center and things like that, and the other
thing that came to mind when I looked at the report.
(36:36):
It was very similar to the Cincinnati Futures Commission, which
is which was basically dead on arrival with the city
as far as we know, or it's gone underground for now,
and it's very notional. It's like, if this happens, we
could do this, if this law passes, we could get
this type of funding. And what they did is they
(37:00):
constructed on paper the type of facility that they.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Wanted, their dream facility.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yes, and then they went back to Heritage Center and says, well,
we can't fit that kind of facility where the Heritage
Center is currently located. Instead of saying, well, we've got
this location down on the river, what kind of facility
can we put there, uh, you know, to get to
where we want to go, they did.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
They didn't do that. And so that's what.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yesterday or the day before, the group down at the banks,
there's actually a group that runs the banks, they came
out with their own plan and they claimed that they
could fit a bigger facility on that same location right there. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
And the.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
The thing is that if you move the Colisseum or
the arena, yeah, over to the OTR area or wherever
Birding wants to put it.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Well, there's talk about the west end, right, yeah, and
then that would be the west side. That would also
includes maybe the area around the new convention center, right.
And then there's over the Rhine as a possibility where
they're going to put it next to the hard rockets.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Se.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
I think that yeah, there's a there's a location up
near a hard figure, but you know that the powers
of b want to.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Put it over there next to what is t yeah,
the soccer venue. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
But if they leave the banks, if the arena leaves
the Banks, that's going to impact the businesses located at
the Banks. Were kind of we've spent all these resources
developing that area and now we're going to take one
of the venues that we build up there and do
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away with it. And so the business community at the
Banks came out the other day and they have an
alternative proposal. And the mayor he's kind of swaying. He
originally said we didn't need a new arena. Then he
said that, well I could be persuaded otherwise. And now
(39:22):
he's saying, well, I have to figure out how we
would pay for it, all right.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
I was waiting for that because that was gonna be
my next question.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Whether it's there over on the West End or any
place else in the Cincinnati area, pick a spot anywhere.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Is there money to build it?
Speaker 3 (39:39):
No, they'd have they'd have to borrow it, or they'd
have to somehow get the money from somewhere. But I
would interfere with the second leg of the streetcar. Todd, Well,
I'm sure streetcar funding isn't there somewhere.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Todd sends there.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
You know, it's humorous, it's comical, but this is real stuff,
and it's going on right now by our elected officials,
and it just leads me to wonder whether they really
have a handle on how to run government, because you know,
I know every one of my listeners can cite their
favorite road that has not been paved or repaired in years.
(40:16):
I always joke about Sunset. That thing has been a nightmarish,
you know, import from some war zone for fifteen years
or so, and it has been fixed. And every year
the number of roads that have gone unrepaired gets longer.
And longer and longer. I mean, you got to take
care of the stuff you've got before you start trying
(40:36):
to buy new stuff and things. And no one seems
to care a wit about what we've got. Going back
to like the broken windows theory, it's all broken out there.
Let's start repairing some windows. Todds Inzer, thank you for
being the watchdog on behalf of the Hamilton County voters
and the residents of the city of Cincinnati, and of
course outside observers who might want to learn from the
(40:56):
mistakes that we've made so they don't do it themselves.
New Year team, my friend, look forward to having you
on again throughout the year.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Just hold your hand up when there's something else that
pops up you want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
It's seven fifty six.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Stick around, we're gonna get We're gonna hear from Keegan
Corker and our wine Smoer. Actually kind of redundant when
I say that, why dry January is bad for the
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(41:30):
with Rebecca at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
It's a new year, new resolutions, new promises. This is
a real world impact. I'm the same from Washington. It's
just another year of keeping you informed. Fifty five KRC,
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.