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Speaker 1 (00:07):
It's seven o six, it is Tuesday, and we are
going to be hearing from the inside scoop right for
our news. Calib Caruzos joining us in an hour. He
used to live in Venezuela. He got out and with
good reason. He's going to give us an up date
in his impressions and thoughts out for what happened the
other day in Venezuela. Daniel Davis, Steve Dive volume two
from yesterday's special edition. We'll hear for him on the
(00:28):
latest in Venezuela at eight thirty and right now, the
return of Tom z Awastowski. You can find Tom and
his organization We the People Convention dot Org right there
at We the People Convention dot Org. Tom, it's been
a while since we talked. I think the last time
you and I talked was with regard to an empower
youth summinar. Welcome back, man, and happy new year to you.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well, good morning, Brian. It's so good to be with
you and your audience this morning. And happy new year
to everyone, and happy turn and fiftieth birthday to America.
It's gonna be a hell of a year.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah it is, and you know it's really the passage
of time, and of course I feel old. I remember
when we celebrated the two hundredth and the one thing
I do remember is everyone had bells out Whenever the
declarator or the Declaration of Independence was signed, everyone had
bells and rang it. I think it was like two
o'clock or something. But that's about all I can remember
about the bisentennial. But this would be a big celebration.
(01:18):
I know Donald Trump's planning on pulling out all stops
and making a real big issue of it, and I
hope maybe this is something that can unite the American people.
We certainly are in need of something to unify us.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Well, Brian, I talked on my podcast this week about
the facts that you know, a representative Republic is not
a spectator sport now participatory. And this idea that you know,
Donald Trump is going to celebrate our turn and fiftieth anniversary,
that's just not enough. It's ours. And so I called
for everybody to start planning to celebrate in their community,
(01:52):
in their little town and their city, in their township
and their county, because over two and fifty years, Brian,
we have done amazing things, and I think this is
going to be a real turning point for our country,
because for the last twenty five years, thanks to the
Marxist last starting with Barack Obama, our nation has been
subject to what's called negative self talk. You stink, you're this,
(02:15):
You're that, it's horrible. America is the worst of everything.
If we can have a year where we're all talking
about all the great things we've done, I think it
will bring us together and I think it's going to
make our country go off in a different direction. So
this is fortuitous, but it's participatory. So don't sit back
and just watch Donald Trump. What are you going to
(02:36):
do to celebrate our two and fifth birthday?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Amen to that. I couldn't agree with you more. And
I'm hoping we see a lot of maybe veterans organizations
getting together planning events, and I just I embrace your
optimism for a collective celebration as opposed to a collective condemnation.
Going back to viv Ramasami's article about online social media posts,
you get the impression that there's not a single human
being in the world beyond you, Tom and me that
(03:02):
believes the United States should be proud of its heritage
and what we've done in spite of our wards. There
isn't a country out there that doesn't have some warts,
of course, but you know, we move past those, We
grew out of them. We've become better and better and
better every year of our existence, and we, through our
capitalism and our amazing wealth, have been able to transform
so many impoverished worlds and provided them with the benefits
(03:23):
of what capitalism can bring. And that's a crazy thing
about socialism, Tom. They keep wanting to take the money
that's earned by capitalists, and it ends up ruining everything.
People quit working. What's the point of work if I
can enjoy the benefit of my labor without capitalist money.
You don't clean up pollution sites, you can't afford windmills,
if that's what you want to buy. It's all built
(03:43):
on the money created and earned by capitalism.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, I mean, And this is going to be part
of the discussion, particularly with all the things that are
in the big beautiful bill that are going to come
to fruition this year. You're gonna see capitalism at work
to see you know, what's going to happen with these
reshoring of these manufacturing plants, even the Trump you know,
the things for the kids that are being born to
(04:08):
get the thousand number of Trump funds where they go
into the stock market. Why didn't we do that like
fifty years ago. I mean, you know, it's just we
talked about capitalism, but we've got to teach it. And
instead of teaching it, we've got schools to teach anti capitalism.
Yet we've got to turn this around, Brian. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And they also teach the Wok religion that carbon dioxide
plant food is killing us all which has ruined our
ability to generate electricity in the name of pursuing this religion.
Zero carbon, zero carbon one another thing Trump's been able
to accomplish. And check out the price of gasoline. Energy
prices have fallen. He's all the above on energy policy.
We have no longer subsidies for windmills that apparently don't
(04:48):
provide sufficient electricity. I mean, we're just moving in the
right direction. Maybe this is the year we rid ourselves
of that religion and move on to something saner and
in lo and behold, Tom, I got to observe. I've
been a big fan of the concept of small modular reactors.
Look what it took artificial intelligence operations to get us
moving in that very sane direction, zero carbon output in
(05:10):
spite of the fact that the green people hated it,
but yet it produces an abundance of electricity in a
very tiny space. Look, Bill Gates wants it, so I
guess we now are in a position and may be
able to get it.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yeah, and way too late. I mean again, this is
the sabotaging of America. This is what we're fighting. All
of your listeners know this. It's not like, you know,
America just can't get it right. It's that literally, people
we elect to represent us, and many of those are
stolen elections sabotage us. And it's just like you were
(05:43):
talking about with the fraud, And it's not just Somali
as you said, it's this. The fraud is way bigger
than anyone can even imagine. It's an all of government problem.
But why do we have that problem, Well, it's because
there's people in our government who hate America, who who
hate capitalism, who believe in Marxism because they didn't get
(06:03):
an education, they went to college to get indoctrinated. We
the common sense people of America this year are fighting
to turn that around and get those people out. And
you know, it's going to be a hell of a fight.
But I think this year is the tipping point. I
think this is the year when we finally win the
war and drive the Marxist out of our government and
(06:24):
then out of our country. And let's hope that's the case.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I certainly hope that. You know, but even if somebody
in government doesn't hate America, and I understand that's a
sinister and real concept that he just brought up. But
you know, government's almost like an illustration of how socialism
or communism works. You don't have to earn or make money.
You merely take it, and by taking it and have
the lea having the legal authority to take it pretty
(06:48):
much as much as they want. Considering the varying tax
rates we face in our country over the years, do
you want a seventy five percent tax rate used to be?
That way, they can take as much as they want.
They don't have to be accountable. They're not subject to shareholders,
they're not subject to boards of directors who are looking for,
you know, to improve the bottom line and to increase
efficiency and effectively manage the taxpayer dollars. We need to
(07:10):
rise up as taxpayers of all political stripes and demand
the end of for example, the fraud illustrated better than
anything else I think I've encountered by what's going on
in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, and it's even worse than you just described because
think about it. Who works in government, whether it's your township,
your county, you know, our state government. I'm not talking
about the elected officials. I'm talking about the people who
are there shuffling the papers. Most of them came out
of college, never worked for a business. Do not understand that?
(07:44):
You know the money you're handling is got to be
protected because you depend on it. They work in government
where the money just shows up. Should the am, here's
another pile of money, and what's your job? Well, shoveled
out the door as quick as you can and don't
ask any questions, and they get rewarded for that. We
have to start to talk to literally to the smaller
(08:07):
people in government and say, hey, do you understand your
job is to protect our money? Right? It's your grandparents' money,
it's your parents' money, it's your brother's money, it's your
friend's money, and you're not doing that. You've got to
ask the hard questions and don't give our money away
to people who don't deserve it. But that's a cultural thing, Brian,
(08:28):
and we've got to start to change that culture. I
think that's what the vek Ramaswami's talking about. I think
that you know, he understands it's a cultural problem, truly.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
A cultural problem. Tom's Awastowski, we will continue find his website,
We the People Convention dot org. Some great stuff there
from Tom. We got more to talk about it. N
if you've have KCD talk station, you can find him
at we the People Convention dot org. Following issues important
to well folks like you and me. Tom z Awastowski
joined the program back from a long hiatus. Since you've
(08:59):
been a program, Tom, and I appreciate what you're doing
day to day. Let's move over to Ohio issue specifically.
Now we can talk about the state of fraud in Ohio.
Governor Dewines seems to suggest that they do everything humanly
possible to prevent fraud and abuse in Ohio. I've heard
reports to the contrary. Tom. I guess my dream in
life is that going back to this sort of concept
of a fiduciary obligation of our politicians owed it to
(09:22):
us with respect to our taxpayer dollars. Maybe there could
be better accountability, we just have to wait around for
an election. But all those people behind the scenes that
are responsible for day to day accounting for the dollars
really don't seem to care either. So I'm not quite
sure where we are on that. But isn't there a
mechanism that we can put in place, Like within the legislation,
fraud avoidance and prevention needs to bring priority number one.
(09:44):
In order to get any single dollar issue to a
human being or organization, you must fill in and do
all of the following. Information needs to be shared between
Social Security and other agencies that have the information so
we can determine citizenship. But the proprietary of Social Security,
remember whatever, but all the frontwork could be done to
stop it from going out in a fraudulent way. Or
(10:05):
am I living a pipe dream?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
No? I mean, come on, we do this every day
in our businesses. You know, this is how America works,
So why doesn't our government work that way? Particularly Brian
with the you know, upcoming AI revolution? How much could
that help us with all this stuff? Right? And and
the question is having a will to do it? I mean,
(10:28):
I go back to things like remember Josh Bendel had
introduced the checkbook program where everybody could report, you know,
they're spending and you could see it online dot com. Right,
remember that, And guess what happened to that, folks. When
Josh left office. He tried to get it put into legislation,
and they wouldn't do it. They wouldn't do it. It's
(10:49):
not the law that they have to. You've got to
put your finances on you know, the Internet, so that
any citizen can see what your township is spending or
your city is spending. That's the problem. We haven't built
these tools that can really make a difference. And so
I think you're going to see some effort to do that,
you know, now that this fraud thing is coming up.
(11:11):
I mean, Bob Sprague and Favor and those guys certainly
have a lot of explaining to do because it's really
under them. You know. The treasurer signs the checks for
these things, and it's responsible for making sure these people
are eligible, and the auditor is the one who audits it.
So two Republicans are right there in the middle of it.
(11:31):
Let's see what they got. But they've got to, you know,
show us.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
The goods well, as I've observed quite often, you republican.
Ohio is a very republican state. You think that it
wouldn't be like hurting cats and Columbus to get people
on the right path, and yet there seems to be
a whole lot of infighting and turf battles going on.
More it seems to be more important to elected officials
than actually doing right by the Ohio tax payer. Speaking
of taxes, what's your thoughts on property taxes. They've been
(11:57):
trying to get some relief for the Ohioans in terms
of property tax There's a lot of seniors out there
that can't even stay in their own home even though
they own it. We got any progress on that one
of late time.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, we've been We've got to get this done, Brian,
we just have to. It was egregious what happened. You know,
this reappraisal of all your properties and then you know
you don't have any more money, but I'm going to
charge you thirty percent more in taxes. That's just wrong.
We've got to fix that. I've been working with the
AX Ohio tax people to try to help them. I
(12:28):
spent probably six months trying to raise money to help them.
The problem is the polling shows that people are afraid
of a total repeal, and so we're working now on
maybe a more modified idea of like a roll back
and then you know something, how about this, Brian, how
about at some point you actually own your home and
(12:48):
the government have a lean on it, like whether that's
if you pay taxes for twenty years, you don't have
to pay anymore, or something like that. We're working on it.
I've been talking to the Vake about it because I
think we've got to get know, hopefully the next governor
to buy in on property taxes. And he hasn't been
on that totally. He's not kind of an income tax guy.
He wants to get rid of the income tax. But
(13:09):
we're raking progress. I'm hoping to have some information on this,
you know, in the next couple of weeks, because we
have to get it done. And Brian, let me just
take one more second to say, why do we have
to get it done. It's not just about the cost
of your property taxes. The problem for us in Ohio
is our government at every level is out of control.
(13:31):
They they're the money money they're spending is just beyond
what the taxpayer can afford. And how do you roll
it back. You can't roll it back by talking to him.
You can't. You can't say, geez, can you can you
cut spending? I think we have to have a reset
by taking some money from them to send the message. Listen,
(13:52):
you guys got to get more efficient. You're going to
have to implement AI to save us money. It can't
just be more and more and more and more. And
I think the property tax issue is the way we
can do that.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, I agree completely, you know, and I have to
observe and most people have known this, I've said it
a million times, and that the school funding mechanism has
been ruled unconstitutional like twenty plus years ago by the
Ohio Supreme Court, and yet it still remains the same
and in play. So I struggle with that concept. And also,
since you mentioned about the finite number of dollars, how
(14:25):
is it that their elected officials approved six hundred million
dollars for the Cleveland Browns. I mean, if you want
to talk about an insult to the taxpayer in the
state of Ohio, that kind of thing really irks me
and my listening audience.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Well, it should I mean again, they're billionaires. Yeah, I
mean they can afford their own bloody stadium. What are
we doing? And then and then it's hilarious because what
does the community really get out of it? Will they
claim all this stuff about you know, your restaurants and
other activities shut up? Wouldn't you love right to be
able to start a business and to have the state
(15:00):
of Ohio pay for your building and all your equipment.
That'd be great. Let's do that. Let's not called capitalism
the folks, now, that's some form of socialism.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I think it is. And that's how green energy companies
stay in business. The taxpayers support them.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Right, huh ah, No chance. We got to stop all
of this. We're going to We're on the right path.
I want people to have hope in this year. I
want you to really people are kind of confused, and
this is why, Brian, you play such a role. You
talked about the whole thing about social media. It is
(15:33):
so important that people have a place to come for truth.
Your show is more important than ever because we live
in a society that's based on lies and propaganda. That
social media, that's all it is. You come to listen
to Brian Thomas, because he's going to give you the truth.
(15:54):
And that's what we all have to do. Don't lie
to yourself, don't lie to your spouse, don't lie to
your family, don't lie to your fellow citizens. We must
get back to truth and merit, and if we do that,
America will be great again.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
God bless you, sir for saying that. As high praise
from you, Sir, I truly respect your opinion. It's a
very kind thing of you to say, and I am
blessed to be in a position to try to do
my part along those lines, and I can only encourage
others to get engaged and do the same thing. You
gotta have conversations. You have to elevate these issues to
something where people start paying attention to it. Because Tom,
as I pointed out before, and you know it as
(16:29):
well as I, we all have a lot going on
in our lives and quite often politics is the last
thing on our list that we want to pay attention to.
And that shouldn't be that way. But you got to
talk get to people talking before they start paying attention
and really maybe do the right thing at the ballot box.
Tom's Awastowski find him at we the People Convention dot org.
Appreciate the work you're doing. Tom. It's been a pleasure
having you back on all the best of health for
(16:50):
you and your family in a happy New Year to you.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Thank you so much, looking forward to talk with you again.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Oh you'll be around, Tom, you can count on that
You're always welcome here coming up Hamilton County. I'm a
police judge. Christopher McDowell speaking,
It's seven o six, it is Tuesday, and we are
going to be hearing from the inside scoop right for
our news. Calib Caruzos joining us in an hour. He
used to live in Venezuela. He got out and with
good reason. He's going to give us an up date
in his impressions and thoughts out for what happened the
other day in Venezuela. Daniel Davis, Steve Dive volume two
from yesterday's special edition. We'll hear for him on the
(00:28):
latest in Venezuela at eight thirty and right now, the
return of Tom z Awastowski. You can find Tom and
his organization We the People Convention dot Org right there
at We the People Convention dot Org. Tom, it's been
a while since we talked. I think the last time
you and I talked was with regard to an empower
youth summinar. Welcome back, man, and happy new year to you.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well, good morning, Brian. It's so good to be with
you and your audience this morning. And happy new year
to everyone, and happy turn and fiftieth birthday to America.
It's gonna be a hell of a year.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah it is, and you know it's really the passage
of time, and of course I feel old. I remember
when we celebrated the two hundredth and the one thing
I do remember is everyone had bells out Whenever the
declarator or the Declaration of Independence was signed, everyone had
bells and rang it. I think it was like two
o'clock or something. But that's about all I can remember
about the bisentennial. But this would be a big celebration.
(01:18):
I know Donald Trump's planning on pulling out all stops
and making a real big issue of it, and I
hope maybe this is something that can unite the American people.
We certainly are in need of something to unify us.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Well, Brian, I talked on my podcast this week about
the facts that you know, a representative Republic is not
a spectator sport now participatory. And this idea that you know,
Donald Trump is going to celebrate our turn and fiftieth anniversary,
that's just not enough. It's ours. And so I called
for everybody to start planning to celebrate in their community,
(01:52):
in their little town and their city, in their township
and their county, because over two and fifty years, Brian,
we have done amazing things, and I think this is
going to be a real turning point for our country,
because for the last twenty five years, thanks to the
Marxist last starting with Barack Obama, our nation has been
subject to what's called negative self talk. You stink, you're this,
(02:15):
You're that, it's horrible. America is the worst of everything.
If we can have a year where we're all talking
about all the great things we've done, I think it
will bring us together and I think it's going to
make our country go off in a different direction. So
this is fortuitous, but it's participatory. So don't sit back
and just watch Donald Trump. What are you going to
(02:36):
do to celebrate our two and fifth birthday?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Amen to that. I couldn't agree with you more. And
I'm hoping we see a lot of maybe veterans organizations
getting together planning events, and I just I embrace your
optimism for a collective celebration as opposed to a collective condemnation.
Going back to viv Ramasami's article about online social media posts,
you get the impression that there's not a single human
being in the world beyond you, Tom and me that
(03:02):
believes the United States should be proud of its heritage
and what we've done in spite of our wards. There
isn't a country out there that doesn't have some warts,
of course, but you know, we move past those, We
grew out of them. We've become better and better and
better every year of our existence, and we, through our
capitalism and our amazing wealth, have been able to transform
so many impoverished worlds and provided them with the benefits
(03:23):
of what capitalism can bring. And that's a crazy thing
about socialism, Tom. They keep wanting to take the money
that's earned by capitalists, and it ends up ruining everything.
People quit working. What's the point of work if I
can enjoy the benefit of my labor without capitalist money.
You don't clean up pollution sites, you can't afford windmills,
if that's what you want to buy. It's all built
(03:43):
on the money created and earned by capitalism.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, I mean, And this is going to be part
of the discussion, particularly with all the things that are
in the big beautiful bill that are going to come
to fruition this year. You're gonna see capitalism at work
to see you know, what's going to happen with these
reshoring of these manufacturing plants, even the Trump you know,
the things for the kids that are being born to
(04:08):
get the thousand number of Trump funds where they go
into the stock market. Why didn't we do that like
fifty years ago. I mean, you know, it's just we
talked about capitalism, but we've got to teach it. And
instead of teaching it, we've got schools to teach anti capitalism.
Yet we've got to turn this around, Brian. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And they also teach the Wok religion that carbon dioxide
plant food is killing us all which has ruined our
ability to generate electricity in the name of pursuing this religion.
Zero carbon, zero carbon one another thing Trump's been able
to accomplish. And check out the price of gasoline. Energy
prices have fallen. He's all the above on energy policy.
We have no longer subsidies for windmills that apparently don't
(04:48):
provide sufficient electricity. I mean, we're just moving in the
right direction. Maybe this is the year we rid ourselves
of that religion and move on to something saner and
in lo and behold, Tom, I got to observe. I've
been a big fan of the concept of small modular reactors.
Look what it took artificial intelligence operations to get us
moving in that very sane direction, zero carbon output in
(05:10):
spite of the fact that the green people hated it,
but yet it produces an abundance of electricity in a
very tiny space. Look, Bill Gates wants it, so I
guess we now are in a position and may be
able to get it.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yeah, and way too late. I mean again, this is
the sabotaging of America. This is what we're fighting. All
of your listeners know this. It's not like, you know,
America just can't get it right. It's that literally, people
we elect to represent us, and many of those are
stolen elections sabotage us. And it's just like you were
(05:43):
talking about with the fraud, And it's not just Somali
as you said, it's this. The fraud is way bigger
than anyone can even imagine. It's an all of government problem.
But why do we have that problem, Well, it's because
there's people in our government who hate America, who who
hate capitalism, who believe in Marxism because they didn't get
(06:03):
an education, they went to college to get indoctrinated. We
the common sense people of America this year are fighting
to turn that around and get those people out. And
you know, it's going to be a hell of a fight.
But I think this year is the tipping point. I
think this is the year when we finally win the
war and drive the Marxist out of our government and
(06:24):
then out of our country. And let's hope that's the case.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I certainly hope that. You know, but even if somebody
in government doesn't hate America, and I understand that's a
sinister and real concept that he just brought up. But
you know, government's almost like an illustration of how socialism
or communism works. You don't have to earn or make money.
You merely take it, and by taking it and have
the lea having the legal authority to take it pretty
(06:48):
much as much as they want. Considering the varying tax
rates we face in our country over the years, do
you want a seventy five percent tax rate used to be?
That way, they can take as much as they want.
They don't have to be accountable. They're not subject to shareholders,
they're not subject to boards of directors who are looking for,
you know, to improve the bottom line and to increase
efficiency and effectively manage the taxpayer dollars. We need to
(07:10):
rise up as taxpayers of all political stripes and demand
the end of for example, the fraud illustrated better than
anything else I think I've encountered by what's going on
in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, and it's even worse than you just described because
think about it. Who works in government, whether it's your township,
your county, you know, our state government. I'm not talking
about the elected officials. I'm talking about the people who
are there shuffling the papers. Most of them came out
of college, never worked for a business. Do not understand that?
(07:44):
You know the money you're handling is got to be
protected because you depend on it. They work in government
where the money just shows up. Should the am, here's
another pile of money, and what's your job? Well, shoveled
out the door as quick as you can and don't
ask any questions, and they get rewarded for that. We
have to start to talk to literally to the smaller
(08:07):
people in government and say, hey, do you understand your
job is to protect our money? Right? It's your grandparents' money,
it's your parents' money, it's your brother's money, it's your
friend's money, and you're not doing that. You've got to
ask the hard questions and don't give our money away
to people who don't deserve it. But that's a cultural thing, Brian,
(08:28):
and we've got to start to change that culture. I
think that's what the vek Ramaswami's talking about. I think
that you know, he understands it's a cultural problem, truly.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
A cultural problem. Tom's Awastowski, we will continue find his website,
We the People Convention dot org. Some great stuff there
from Tom. We got more to talk about it. N
if you've have KCD talk station, you can find him
at we the People Convention dot org. Following issues important
to well folks like you and me. Tom z Awastowski
joined the program back from a long hiatus. Since you've
(08:59):
been a program, Tom, and I appreciate what you're doing
day to day. Let's move over to Ohio issue specifically.
Now we can talk about the state of fraud in Ohio.
Governor Dewines seems to suggest that they do everything humanly
possible to prevent fraud and abuse in Ohio. I've heard
reports to the contrary. Tom. I guess my dream in
life is that going back to this sort of concept
of a fiduciary obligation of our politicians owed it to
(09:22):
us with respect to our taxpayer dollars. Maybe there could
be better accountability, we just have to wait around for
an election. But all those people behind the scenes that
are responsible for day to day accounting for the dollars
really don't seem to care either. So I'm not quite
sure where we are on that. But isn't there a
mechanism that we can put in place, Like within the legislation,
fraud avoidance and prevention needs to bring priority number one.
(09:44):
In order to get any single dollar issue to a
human being or organization, you must fill in and do
all of the following. Information needs to be shared between
Social Security and other agencies that have the information so
we can determine citizenship. But the proprietary of Social Security,
remember whatever, but all the frontwork could be done to
stop it from going out in a fraudulent way. Or
(10:05):
am I living a pipe dream?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
No? I mean, come on, we do this every day
in our businesses. You know, this is how America works,
So why doesn't our government work that way? Particularly Brian
with the you know, upcoming AI revolution? How much could
that help us with all this stuff? Right? And and
the question is having a will to do it? I mean,
(10:28):
I go back to things like remember Josh Bendel had
introduced the checkbook program where everybody could report, you know,
they're spending and you could see it online dot com. Right,
remember that, And guess what happened to that, folks. When
Josh left office. He tried to get it put into legislation,
and they wouldn't do it. They wouldn't do it. It's
(10:49):
not the law that they have to. You've got to
put your finances on you know, the Internet, so that
any citizen can see what your township is spending or
your city is spending. That's the problem. We haven't built
these tools that can really make a difference. And so
I think you're going to see some effort to do that,
you know, now that this fraud thing is coming up.
(11:11):
I mean, Bob Sprague and Favor and those guys certainly
have a lot of explaining to do because it's really
under them. You know. The treasurer signs the checks for
these things, and it's responsible for making sure these people
are eligible, and the auditor is the one who audits it.
So two Republicans are right there in the middle of it.
(11:31):
Let's see what they got. But they've got to, you know,
show us.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
The goods well, as I've observed quite often, you republican.
Ohio is a very republican state. You think that it
wouldn't be like hurting cats and Columbus to get people
on the right path, and yet there seems to be
a whole lot of infighting and turf battles going on.
More it seems to be more important to elected officials
than actually doing right by the Ohio tax payer. Speaking
of taxes, what's your thoughts on property taxes. They've been
(11:57):
trying to get some relief for the Ohioans in terms
of property tax There's a lot of seniors out there
that can't even stay in their own home even though
they own it. We got any progress on that one
of late time.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, we've been We've got to get this done, Brian,
we just have to. It was egregious what happened. You know,
this reappraisal of all your properties and then you know
you don't have any more money, but I'm going to
charge you thirty percent more in taxes. That's just wrong.
We've got to fix that. I've been working with the
AX Ohio tax people to try to help them. I
(12:28):
spent probably six months trying to raise money to help them.
The problem is the polling shows that people are afraid
of a total repeal, and so we're working now on
maybe a more modified idea of like a roll back
and then you know something, how about this, Brian, how
about at some point you actually own your home and
(12:48):
the government have a lean on it, like whether that's
if you pay taxes for twenty years, you don't have
to pay anymore, or something like that. We're working on it.
I've been talking to the Vake about it because I
think we've got to get know, hopefully the next governor
to buy in on property taxes. And he hasn't been
on that totally. He's not kind of an income tax guy.
He wants to get rid of the income tax. But
(13:09):
we're raking progress. I'm hoping to have some information on this,
you know, in the next couple of weeks, because we
have to get it done. And Brian, let me just
take one more second to say, why do we have
to get it done. It's not just about the cost
of your property taxes. The problem for us in Ohio
is our government at every level is out of control.
(13:31):
They they're the money money they're spending is just beyond
what the taxpayer can afford. And how do you roll
it back. You can't roll it back by talking to him.
You can't. You can't say, geez, can you can you
cut spending? I think we have to have a reset
by taking some money from them to send the message. Listen,
(13:52):
you guys got to get more efficient. You're going to
have to implement AI to save us money. It can't
just be more and more and more and more. And
I think the property tax issue is the way we
can do that.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, I agree completely, you know, and I have to
observe and most people have known this, I've said it
a million times, and that the school funding mechanism has
been ruled unconstitutional like twenty plus years ago by the
Ohio Supreme Court, and yet it still remains the same
and in play. So I struggle with that concept. And also,
since you mentioned about the finite number of dollars, how
(14:25):
is it that their elected officials approved six hundred million
dollars for the Cleveland Browns. I mean, if you want
to talk about an insult to the taxpayer in the
state of Ohio, that kind of thing really irks me
and my listening audience.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Well, it should I mean again, they're billionaires. Yeah, I
mean they can afford their own bloody stadium. What are
we doing? And then and then it's hilarious because what
does the community really get out of it? Will they
claim all this stuff about you know, your restaurants and
other activities shut up? Wouldn't you love right to be
able to start a business and to have the state
(15:00):
of Ohio pay for your building and all your equipment.
That'd be great. Let's do that. Let's not called capitalism
the folks, now, that's some form of socialism.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I think it is. And that's how green energy companies
stay in business. The taxpayers support them.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Right, huh ah, No chance. We got to stop all
of this. We're going to We're on the right path.
I want people to have hope in this year. I
want you to really people are kind of confused, and
this is why, Brian, you play such a role. You
talked about the whole thing about social media. It is
(15:33):
so important that people have a place to come for truth.
Your show is more important than ever because we live
in a society that's based on lies and propaganda. That
social media, that's all it is. You come to listen
to Brian Thomas, because he's going to give you the truth.
(15:54):
And that's what we all have to do. Don't lie
to yourself, don't lie to your spouse, don't lie to
your family, don't lie to your fellow citizens. We must
get back to truth and merit, and if we do that,
America will be great again.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
God bless you, sir for saying that. As high praise
from you, Sir, I truly respect your opinion. It's a
very kind thing of you to say, and I am
blessed to be in a position to try to do
my part along those lines, and I can only encourage
others to get engaged and do the same thing. You
gotta have conversations. You have to elevate these issues to
something where people start paying attention to it. Because Tom,
as I pointed out before, and you know it as
(16:29):
well as I, we all have a lot going on
in our lives and quite often politics is the last
thing on our list that we want to pay attention to.
And that shouldn't be that way. But you got to
talk get to people talking before they start paying attention
and really maybe do the right thing at the ballot box.
Tom's Awastowski find him at we the People Convention dot org.
Appreciate the work you're doing. Tom. It's been a pleasure
having you back on all the best of health for
(16:50):
you and your family in a happy New Year to you.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Thank you so much, looking forward to talk with you again.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Oh you'll be around, Tom, you can count on that
You're always welcome here coming up Hamilton County. I'm a
police judge. Christopher McDowell speaking,
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