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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six here at fifty five KRC DE talk station. By
Time's wishing you a very very happy Wednesday, inviting you
to listener, Launch Price, sil Chiley and welcoming back to
the fifty five KRC Morning Show. The next Governor of
the State of Ohio, Vive Ramaswamy. Mister Ramaswamy, it is
a distinct pleasure to have you on the program. Welcome back,
my friend.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Great to be on. Just finished morning drop off for
the kids at school, and no way, no better way
to start the day than catch up with you, Brian.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I appreciate that, and good for you being a father
that you're supposed to be. You don't delegate that responsibility.
You're taking the kids to school. That's great and I'm
glad to hear it. And probably you're insisting on a
great education, are you. Are they involved in the classical education?
I hate to bring that up out of nowhere, vv, but.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So they're very young, I mean, my my youngest one's three, oh,
that's five. But we have we have toured a number
of the classical schools, and particularly in Columbus, and I
have been impressed. Right they think about the ways in
which our traditional academic standards and educational standards have gradually
declined in the last thirty years, and you see a
(01:05):
lot of these innovative approaches, including classical education. You know,
they're incorporating Singapore math, They're incorporating classical approaches even from
studying even ancient languages. I think these are important for
young people to develop in the modern world. And that's
a longer conversation we can have.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Of course, not to dwell on this too much, because
we want to talk with Turning Point in USA and
how your campaign's going. But I know part of your
campaign involves helping and helping young people excel in math
and reading and critical thinking. And I have to ask
you just straightforward, because I am literally frightened for America
when I see the public education proficiency scores. When I
(01:46):
read about college educated students, or rather high school educated
students to get into college and they can't even manage
eighth grade level mathematics, yet they graduated within a and
got a diploma. I mean, I weep for the future
of our country. And part of me makes me, part
of this makes me think that this is something nefarious.
It's almost as if we're raising a nation of idiots
(02:09):
who can be easily manipulated by the morons who are
trying to steer us towards socialism in this country. Sorry
to be so blunt, mister Ramaswami.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Well, especially as we think about entering an era of
AI and technology and automation, it's all the more important
to have cultivated citizens who are able to think independently
for themselves. And at the end of the day, that responsibility, Brian,
falls on us. Not up to us to blame anybody
else for a nefarious plot. It's up to us to
really step up as parents, as citizens to cultivate the
(02:40):
next generation of young people. You said it well, and
to be honest with you, a lot of people on
the left would get upset at me over the last
half decade when I said about the woke left standards
eroding merit and academic standards. But to be honest, sometimes
when I say it, there may be voices on the
right who are upset to hear the same message. But
the truth hurts because it's true. Wow, students are underperforming
(03:04):
kids in other countries. Seventy five percent of eighth graders
now are not proficient in math, and that's unacceptable. To us.
It's not going to change overnight. But the way I'm
going to change it in Ohio is bringing standards back
to public education. The idea of one hundred percent third
grade literacy as a guarantee for every kid who's medically capable.
(03:24):
We're going to get that done in this state. Numeracy standards,
algebra competence by the end of eighth grade should be
a goal for every student. Civic competence by the time
you graduate from high school. You know, I think every
high school senior who graduates from an Ohio high school
should have to pass the same Civics test that every
legal immigrant has to pass before that immigrant becomes a
(03:46):
naturalized citizen. That's just common sense. And you know this
is controversial, mostly on the left, but even to some
on certain fringes of the right, And it doesn't matter
to me. That's the truth. It's what we have to
stand for, and it is what it means to be
in America, is that we stand for the values of
this country, which include excellence and the pursuit of excellence
is what we're bringing Education.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Well, one bright spot, and I know it was a
tragedy beyond tragedies when Charlie Kirk was murdered. Just horrific,
but at least it lit a fire beneath a lot
of young and I would argue high school and college
age folks to pursue a Turning Point USA chapter. The
number of new chapters has ballooned, and I understand that
we do have one or one is coming to the
(04:28):
city of Cincinnati. I know you wanted to address that
here on the Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Well, look, I think the idea of young people being
hungry for something greater than what they're being served up
by their culture, that's been true for the last couple
decades in our country. And Charlie Kirk, better than anybody
I know, understood that and provided an alternative vision of citizenship,
an alternative vision of reviving faiths and family and patriotism
(04:56):
and hard work. The last time I saw him was
actually in Ohio, said down for over an hour in
Delaware County, Ohio, one on one when he visited just
two weeks before his assassination. And I do feel some
sense of responsibility as a friend of Charlie's, as somebody
who he actually asked me to serve as the chairman
of the Turning Point pack and some of their affiliated entities,
(05:17):
which I wasn't able to do. But the fact that
he and I traveled the country for so much of
the last year gives me a special sense of mission
to make sure we're continuing to carry out that work
of motivating young people to think independently, to speak their
minds in the open, to remind you this is the
country where we don't always agree on everything, not all
(05:38):
the time, of course we don't, but we could still
disagree vehemently and view ourselves as fellows citizens rather than
enemies to be conquered and win through persuasion, which is
something that we've lost in modern politics, is even the
idea that you could persuade someone rather than to force
them into defeat versus loss. Persuasion is a lost art.
(06:00):
And that's a big part of what Charlie did with
Turning Point and what we're trying to carry on in
our work across these campuses.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
And that they very well be the reason the Turning
Point USA chapters strike fear in the hearts of mind
that these liberals, they start pulling their hair out and
screaming in anguish. Oh my god, a Turning Point USA
chapter is coming we need to do everything we can.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
To stop it.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
They're afraid of that very debate you discuss.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know, I think that's historically, if you look at
the last half decade, that was definitely true in the
period of peak woke access. I do think that quietly,
if you scratch beneath the Service Brian, people are hungry
for something different than the direction of just the politics
of defeating opposition through silencing, through canceling, through censorship. Now
(06:42):
that era, I think is the peak of that is
behind us, and that most Americans not saying all of them,
but most Americans, even most Democrats, are not really subject
to that woke left mind virus. They're looking to be
liberated from it. And so we're delivering that emancipation. That's
the way I look at it. And you know what,
I don't care whether you're on the left or the right.
We don't believe in this kind of cancel culture. We
(07:04):
don't believe in this kind of victimhood culture. And that's
the message I'm hoping to hoping to deliver tonight. We
were at the University of Cincinnati on Monday night, great discussion,
wholesome conversations. There were students from the left, from the right,
some who are politically undecided, then who are politically uninvolved
want to start businesses, but were interested in what this
(07:24):
turning point chapter had to say. And so that's the message.
We're going to be at Miami University tonight continuing that conversation,
and we're going to keep going and campuses across the
state because I do think young people are looking for direction,
they're looking for purpose. A lot of them are skeptical
right now. That's another thing I see, Brian about the
American dream. They're very cynical about the American dream because
(07:46):
they feel like they've heard about it and yet they're
not quite living it, where home ownership feels a little
bit out of reach. For a lot of those young people,
they got out of college or got out of high school,
thought they got their education and then join a workforce
and a labor market that says, well, you don't really
know the skills that I need you to know to
be useful on the job, and that requires then further training.
(08:06):
And so they're cynical about the American dream. But our
job is to restore and revive that American dream and
confidence in it. And that's what I'm going to do
here in Ohio. That is the number one reason why
I'm in this race. Actually because as a young person
who grew up in the state myself right went to
public schools in Cincinnati through eighth grade, who went to
Saint x for high school, I have lived the American
(08:26):
dream at levels unimaginable to my family even just a
few decades ago. I want to pass that save American
dream onto the next generation of young Ohio and then
we're going to do it.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
You will, indeed. Then that's why I have so much
confidence in you your candidacy and encourage my listeners to
help you out along the campaign trail. V vag viv
e K four fo r Ohio dot COM's the website
action center. Click on it, help out, get involved in
the campaign. Add your information there. They'll be happy to
reach out to you and make a campaign contribution if
(08:59):
you can anything you can to help mister Ramaswamy become
the next governor of the state of Ohio, and he
will lead with confidence and we will put Ohio. You
will put Ohio back on the map. I'm confident of that.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
In your platform, We're going to make it happen and
it's a team effort to get there, and to tell
you the truth, we're gonna do it in a positive way.
And you know what, by the time we're done, Brian,
we want Texas and Florida to be following Ohio's lead
rather than the other way around. I think we're going
to get there.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
That's a hell of an aspiration. Be big, Ramaswamy. Thanks
for the time you spend today. I hope to have
you on as many times as possible between now and
next November. Keep up the great work and good luck
with the event this evening now you too, my friend,
Thank you, thanks much. It's eight sixteen here fifty five
K see de talk station. Well, the phone line's
Six here at fifty five KRC DE talk station. By
Time's wishing you a very very happy Wednesday, inviting you
to listener, Launch Price, sil Chiley and welcoming back to
the fifty five KRC Morning Show. The next Governor of
the State of Ohio, Vive Ramaswamy. Mister Ramaswamy, it is
a distinct pleasure to have you on the program. Welcome back,
my friend.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Great to be on. Just finished morning drop off for
the kids at school, and no way, no better way
to start the day than catch up with you, Brian.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I appreciate that, and good for you being a father
that you're supposed to be. You don't delegate that responsibility.
You're taking the kids to school. That's great and I'm
glad to hear it. And probably you're insisting on a
great education, are you. Are they involved in the classical education?
I hate to bring that up out of nowhere, vv, but.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So they're very young, I mean, my my youngest one's three, oh,
that's five. But we have we have toured a number
of the classical schools, and particularly in Columbus, and I
have been impressed. Right they think about the ways in
which our traditional academic standards and educational standards have gradually
declined in the last thirty years, and you see a
(01:05):
lot of these innovative approaches, including classical education. You know,
they're incorporating Singapore math, They're incorporating classical approaches even from
studying even ancient languages. I think these are important for
young people to develop in the modern world. And that's
a longer conversation we can have.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Of course, not to dwell on this too much, because
we want to talk with Turning Point in USA and
how your campaign's going. But I know part of your
campaign involves helping and helping young people excel in math
and reading and critical thinking. And I have to ask
you just straightforward, because I am literally frightened for America
when I see the public education proficiency scores. When I
(01:46):
read about college educated students, or rather high school educated
students to get into college and they can't even manage
eighth grade level mathematics, yet they graduated within a and
got a diploma. I mean, I weep for the future
of our country. And part of me makes me, part
of this makes me think that this is something nefarious.
It's almost as if we're raising a nation of idiots
(02:09):
who can be easily manipulated by the morons who are
trying to steer us towards socialism in this country. Sorry
to be so blunt, mister Ramaswami.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Well, especially as we think about entering an era of
AI and technology and automation, it's all the more important
to have cultivated citizens who are able to think independently
for themselves. And at the end of the day, that responsibility, Brian,
falls on us. Not up to us to blame anybody
else for a nefarious plot. It's up to us to
really step up as parents, as citizens to cultivate the
(02:40):
next generation of young people. You said it well, and
to be honest with you, a lot of people on
the left would get upset at me over the last
half decade when I said about the woke left standards
eroding merit and academic standards. But to be honest, sometimes
when I say it, there may be voices on the
right who are upset to hear the same message. But
the truth hurts because it's true. Wow, students are underperforming
(03:04):
kids in other countries. Seventy five percent of eighth graders
now are not proficient in math, and that's unacceptable. To us.
It's not going to change overnight. But the way I'm
going to change it in Ohio is bringing standards back
to public education. The idea of one hundred percent third
grade literacy as a guarantee for every kid who's medically capable.
(03:24):
We're going to get that done in this state. Numeracy standards,
algebra competence by the end of eighth grade should be
a goal for every student. Civic competence by the time
you graduate from high school. You know, I think every
high school senior who graduates from an Ohio high school
should have to pass the same Civics test that every
legal immigrant has to pass before that immigrant becomes a
(03:46):
naturalized citizen. That's just common sense. And you know this
is controversial, mostly on the left, but even to some
on certain fringes of the right, And it doesn't matter
to me. That's the truth. It's what we have to
stand for, and it is what it means to be
in America, is that we stand for the values of
this country, which include excellence and the pursuit of excellence
is what we're bringing Education.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Well, one bright spot, and I know it was a
tragedy beyond tragedies when Charlie Kirk was murdered. Just horrific,
but at least it lit a fire beneath a lot
of young and I would argue high school and college
age folks to pursue a Turning Point USA chapter. The
number of new chapters has ballooned, and I understand that
we do have one or one is coming to the
(04:28):
city of Cincinnati. I know you wanted to address that
here on the Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Well, look, I think the idea of young people being
hungry for something greater than what they're being served up
by their culture, that's been true for the last couple
decades in our country. And Charlie Kirk, better than anybody
I know, understood that and provided an alternative vision of citizenship,
an alternative vision of reviving faiths and family and patriotism
(04:56):
and hard work. The last time I saw him was
actually in Ohio, said down for over an hour in
Delaware County, Ohio, one on one when he visited just
two weeks before his assassination. And I do feel some
sense of responsibility as a friend of Charlie's, as somebody
who he actually asked me to serve as the chairman
of the Turning Point pack and some of their affiliated entities,
(05:17):
which I wasn't able to do. But the fact that
he and I traveled the country for so much of
the last year gives me a special sense of mission
to make sure we're continuing to carry out that work
of motivating young people to think independently, to speak their
minds in the open, to remind you this is the
country where we don't always agree on everything, not all
(05:38):
the time, of course we don't, but we could still
disagree vehemently and view ourselves as fellows citizens rather than
enemies to be conquered and win through persuasion, which is
something that we've lost in modern politics, is even the
idea that you could persuade someone rather than to force
them into defeat versus loss. Persuasion is a lost art.
(06:00):
And that's a big part of what Charlie did with
Turning Point and what we're trying to carry on in
our work across these campuses.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
And that they very well be the reason the Turning
Point USA chapters strike fear in the hearts of mind
that these liberals, they start pulling their hair out and
screaming in anguish. Oh my god, a Turning Point USA
chapter is coming we need to do everything we can.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
To stop it.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
They're afraid of that very debate you discuss.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know, I think that's historically, if you look at
the last half decade, that was definitely true in the
period of peak woke access. I do think that quietly,
if you scratch beneath the Service Brian, people are hungry
for something different than the direction of just the politics
of defeating opposition through silencing, through canceling, through censorship. Now
(06:42):
that era, I think is the peak of that is
behind us, and that most Americans not saying all of them,
but most Americans, even most Democrats, are not really subject
to that woke left mind virus. They're looking to be
liberated from it. And so we're delivering that emancipation. That's
the way I look at it. And you know what,
I don't care whether you're on the left or the right.
We don't believe in this kind of cancel culture. We
(07:04):
don't believe in this kind of victimhood culture. And that's
the message I'm hoping to hoping to deliver tonight. We
were at the University of Cincinnati on Monday night, great discussion,
wholesome conversations. There were students from the left, from the right,
some who are politically undecided, then who are politically uninvolved
want to start businesses, but were interested in what this
(07:24):
turning point chapter had to say. And so that's the message.
We're going to be at Miami University tonight continuing that conversation,
and we're going to keep going and campuses across the
state because I do think young people are looking for direction,
they're looking for purpose. A lot of them are skeptical
right now. That's another thing I see, Brian about the
American dream. They're very cynical about the American dream because
(07:46):
they feel like they've heard about it and yet they're
not quite living it, where home ownership feels a little
bit out of reach. For a lot of those young people,
they got out of college or got out of high school,
thought they got their education and then join a workforce
and a labor market that says, well, you don't really
know the skills that I need you to know to
be useful on the job, and that requires then further training.
(08:06):
And so they're cynical about the American dream. But our
job is to restore and revive that American dream and
confidence in it. And that's what I'm going to do
here in Ohio. That is the number one reason why
I'm in this race. Actually because as a young person
who grew up in the state myself right went to
public schools in Cincinnati through eighth grade, who went to
Saint x for high school, I have lived the American
(08:26):
dream at levels unimaginable to my family even just a
few decades ago. I want to pass that save American
dream onto the next generation of young Ohio and then
we're going to do it.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
You will, indeed. Then that's why I have so much
confidence in you your candidacy and encourage my listeners to
help you out along the campaign trail. V vag viv
e K four fo r Ohio dot COM's the website
action center. Click on it, help out, get involved in
the campaign. Add your information there. They'll be happy to
reach out to you and make a campaign contribution if
(08:59):
you can anything you can to help mister Ramaswamy become
the next governor of the state of Ohio, and he
will lead with confidence and we will put Ohio. You
will put Ohio back on the map. I'm confident of that.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
In your platform, We're going to make it happen and
it's a team effort to get there, and to tell
you the truth, we're gonna do it in a positive way.
And you know what, by the time we're done, Brian,
we want Texas and Florida to be following Ohio's lead
rather than the other way around. I think we're going
to get there.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
That's a hell of an aspiration. Be big, Ramaswamy. Thanks
for the time you spend today. I hope to have
you on as many times as possible between now and
next November. Keep up the great work and good luck
with the event this evening now you too, my friend,
Thank you, thanks much. It's eight sixteen here fifty five
K see de talk station. Well, the phone line's
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