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Speaker 3 (00:16):
Happy Friday, Eve, who's really blessed to see Corey Bowman
yesterday's listener to lunch course running from mayor of the
City of Cincinnati. And hopefully he's got a chance more
probably more of a chance now than we've even seen
in a long long time. I think you have to
go back to Brad Winstrom's efforts to become mayor, and
he came in at forty seven percent. So there's a
glimmer of hope in that reality. Maybe Corey Bowman can

(00:38):
push it over the top of fifty percent. Welcome back
to the fifty five krs Morning Show in studio, Corey Bowman,
Corey Bowman dot com.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Hey, thank you for having me, Brian, thank you for
all your listeners for having me. That was a fun
day yesterday. I'm glad you're able to be there. It
was awesome, awesome. I always love the food over at
Jim and Jacks too. They sleep on the Buffalo chicken wrap.
I always have that every time I'm there.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
I had the fried fish and I strongly recommend it's
a really, really wonderful thing. Westside, Jim Keiefer was sitting
there eating his I'm like, well, I know what I'm
having for lunch, Dave, you give me one of those
so ice cool beer. Great fellowship, And you mentioned Dave
Hatter tech Friday's Tomorrow Morning. Every listener knows that regular
listeners on Friday at six thirty Mayor of Fort Wright,
and he showed up a listener lunch too. Sorry, Dave,

(01:19):
I forgot to mention you earlier. In addition, we saw
Christopher Smith and Steve Gooden, Liz Keenan, Betsy Sunderman. I
just going down the list that I am, and Holly Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
It was awesome to see everybody come together, and I
mean it was a packed crowd, especially for an afternoon
lunch right there, mister Hatter. That was awesome meeting him
because I had heard his voice on your show.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
You didn't know what he looked like. No, no, and
met him and you know, he was awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Looks like, you know, some hippie that's able to just
you know, school people on every different subject imaginable.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
So it was really cool to get in touch with him.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, he's a he is just a brilliant, brilliant man.
Said wouldn't it be How cool is it to have
a brilliant man like that as as your mayor? And
I said, well, how cool would it be to have
Viva Gramis for me as your governor? You know another
person who's brilliant and has really great ideas and has
a problem solver. So anyway, a little plug for tomorrow
Tech Friday with Dave had Ter. Good to see yesterday, Dave,

(02:11):
if you're out there Court Bowman, I was asking you.
You have it your church, your minister at your church,
but you also have this coffee shop. We've talked about
it before, located in the West End. Yes, sir, what
I would say and correct me if I'm wrong? Would
you describe it as one of the struggling neighborhoods that
we talk about all the time in the Morning show,
neighborhoods plagued with crime or maybe roads are having a problem.

(02:34):
There's lots of empty space that could be developed. Am
I accurately describing?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:38):
What I tell people is that the West End has
been really the dumping grounds of all these failed policies.
It just so happens that when these policies creep over
to Hyde Park or in these other neighborhoods.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Then people start paying it.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Actually, And so I think that's given me a perfect
perspective on what government programs do to a community that
really cripple it, that concentrate the poverty, that concentrate the crime,
shuts down businesses. But at the same time, the West
End is our home. That's an area that we believe
in most in Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
I know you do, and you're committed to it. And
you had to convince your business partner that creating a
new business in that particular neighborhood was a good idea. Yeah, listen,
if you and I were having that conversation today and
you were talking about Brian, I really once you invests
I'm going to open a coffee shop, it's going to
be in the West End. Like I'd be like, wait
a minute, you mean right down the street from where

(03:28):
those buildings were getting shot at. You mean right down
the street from where those murders were, I mean right
down the street from where that drug dealing is going on.
And you would have said, yeah, it's worked out, though
it does.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
And I think that this is kind of like what's
becoming like my life's pursuit as being a Cincinnatian.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
You know, it's the heart.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
It's always an uphill battle try to convince somebody that
Cincinnati chili is good that's not from Cincinnati. It's always
hard to convince somebody to be a Bengals or a
Reds fan that's not a fan initially. And so at
the same time, when it comes to the West End,
it's for people to see the potential based on whether
it be the crime or whether it be what they see.

(04:05):
But this is an area that we believe in. And
whenever I talk to my cowner, there's a lot of
different areas you can go to in Cincinnati, and all
of them are great neighborhoods. But I just have this
belief that you need to go where you're needed most,
not necessarily where the tolerance is going to be or
whether you're going to see the most success initially, but
go someplace where you can make a true impact and
then from that you're going to see success.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
And since and I started out the question like how's
the business doing and you would talk about your your
eyes lit up. You're like, oh, it's really good. We
got this organic growth and development. You got a whole
bunch of young people from UC coming down to the
coffee show, people of all makes and models. I mean,
this is and it's a welcome environment. Other people saw
your success and are now starting to invest in the area.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
And so when the first year that we were there
was actually the year that we went to the Super Bowl, right,
and so the West End streets were actually lined up
with investors and developers that were ready to actually invest
in the West End and other areas of Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, and also FC Cincinnati is up around the street.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
I mean that that was that was a big draw
for I mean they put that there in a struggling neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
I think with the idea that you're going to regentrify
the whole West End area through.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
The well, what ends up happening is that a lot
of these city policies and it's two way battle. The
business owners are trying to find a way to be profitable.
So they're looking for all the incentives they can. They're
looking for all the tax breaks that they can, right,
But then on the flip side, you have a lot
of government programs, a lot of city initiatives that are
pushing for zoning or pushing for just a lot of

(05:36):
it's kind of victorial in my opinion. You're you're forcing
what a building needs to be in instead of letting
the market and the community decide what it needs to be.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I mean that like fascists would do.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah yeah, maybe yeah, so but what I see it
as that really stunts the growth. And so a lot
of these initial developers and investors they kind of jump
ship once they saw that this was going to be
a long term thing. They're going to have to fight
the city on things. There's a lot of red tape.
But right now what we're seeing is that on our
specific block, the crime in our specific block has gone down.

(06:08):
And then also you have a lot of different development
that's finally starting to pick up in the area. And
that's what we need in these areas. We need thriving businesses,
we need grocery stores, We need to be able to
have things that the community can do. When you ask
anybody on the street, when you talk to them about
youth violence, they say, well, the youth don't have anything
to do right now. They only have homes to go

(06:29):
to that our government subsidize house that a lot of
times the water or the electric is turned off, and
then at night they don't really have any place to
hang out or anything to do because the businesses are
shut down. And we're looking to change that in the
West End and any other struggling neighborhood in Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I guess canoeing down the Mill Creek doesn't quite cut it. Then, Sorry,
I had to take a cheap shot on that one.
I thought that was a preposterous idea. Well, and as
someone else turned in, Richard, thank you very much, rent
is cheap on the west in the West End, so
it's a good opportunity. They save money on that expense
while you're building this new growth. And so what all

(07:05):
this suggests and leads to is you live there, your
church is there, your business is successful there. You had to,
like others who walked away from the idea, navigate the
challenges of building that business.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
And that's nowhere're navigating.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah, you know where the red tape is, you know
where the stupid impediments are, and I presume that will
be top of your job priorities. If you're elected mayor,
that's one of the things you're going after.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, well, what we see is so what we're experiencing
right there, what my front row seat shows me is
that we need clean streets, we need safe streets, and
we need prospers streets. There was many people have heard
me say this, all right, but there was a week
where people couldn't even come to my business because of
the snowplower moval in our area.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
And then if you look at the streets.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
That's not a hilly neighborhood, no Mount Adams not talking
about Yeah okay, And.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
So for a business like us that's in our first year,
a week like that could be detrimental to your business model.
And so thank god that we had the residential that
were coming in their snow boots and that we're walking in.
But for a business that relies on visitors in the city,
that's huge, right. And then you look at the streets.
A lot of times we have these trucks. This this
happens so much to us, is that we'll see the

(08:19):
construction crews come in, right, We'll see the road crews
come in, and we get so excited about they're finally
gonna do it. And then they have one strip of
stuff that they've taken out because they're gonna put a
water line or a gas line in, and then they
just patch that over. It's the worst patch job I've
ever seen. And then they leave the street that way.
I'm like, wait, we thought they were gonna pave our road.

(08:41):
We thought they were gonna There's a pothole in front
of my parking spot on the side of York Street
that's been there for three years.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Never been fixed before.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
And so this is kind of what we see is
we get this excitement once we see the road crews
come in. Then we realize, oh, gosh, they're only gonna
take one strip or like a three foot strip of
the road just to put a line in and then
patch it over.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, asking the obvious question, I mean, logically and reasonably speaking,
they have obligations to make sure the roads are paved.
There are four hundred million dollars behind in their obligation,
years and years behind in doing that. All the equipment's
right blank and there you did your little line, probably
you did your little sewer line fix. Why don't you
go ahead and fix the road up While you're at

(09:24):
rather than patch it. You're all here here. You've got
another illustration of what you, as an elected official, have accomplished.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
On behalf of the West End. We repaved a road
that it happened in in College Hill.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
We were living College Hill on the first I think
it was the first month that we moved in our house.
When we moved there for College Hill, all the crews
came out. We're all so excited. We're like, oh my gosh,
they're going to repave our It's a road where a
school is, there's many residential this is going to be amazing.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
I kid you, not right down the middle.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
I'm not talking about like from like the north end
of the street to the south end of the street.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Half of the street.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
I'm talking about straight down the center line of the street.
They paved one half of the road. The other half
the road is garbage, but one half the road is
brand new pavement and they left it there and that's
how it stayed for two years. And we're like, you
only finish half the job, what are you coming back?
And that happens a lot in the city because they're
only trying to do the bare minimum, because to be

(10:22):
honest with you. The budget is not prioritized, it's not
principal enough to be able to make sure that this
is at the.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Forefront, which would be a perfect springboard we get back.
I wanted to let you let my listeners hear about
your one million dollars what it could do argument, and
we'll talk about that in the context of them handing
out say seven million dollars to so called non governmental organizations.
You know, every little bit adds up, and what the
power of one million dollars. It sounds like it wouldn't

(10:49):
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We engaged in an interesting conversation. I found it interesting anyway.
I thought it was worthy that you passed this information
along to my listeners. What you can do with a
million dollars? And we always talking these giant bundles of money,

(12:17):
but you give some great illustrations of a couple of
programs which effectively were ten million dollars in a pile
of money. You can explain where that money went, and
then use that ten million dollars to explain what could
have been in a government city government that had a
better understanding and better prioritization list, it could have brought

(12:39):
a lot of what we really truly need in the
city rather than what it ultimately went for. So let's
go into that analysis.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah, so one of our biggest issues that we're facing
is budget, right, where's the money going? Because you have,
let's say, a one point nine billion dollar proposed budget
for the upcoming year. Where's the money gonna go?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Right?

Speaker 4 (12:56):
And so a lot of people say that all we're
playing from behind, we're working with one hundred million dollar deficit.
But no budget is perfect. But what I view it
as is that every budget needs to be guided by
principles and priorities. If you have proper principles in your budget,
what that means is that you're gonna avoid corruption, You're
gonna avoid this money being used for things that it

(13:16):
shouldn't be used for. And then priorities, you're gonna make
sure that even though there's a lot of things we
can put money into, the money is going first and
foremost to the things that matter most of people, which
is crime and infrastructure. That's what's needing to go right now.
And so recently there was an article that came out
that a million dollars was given to a local basically

(13:38):
a landlord that monitors affordable housing in the city. Now
we have gotten complaint after complaint about there being people
defecating on the streets of these are on the front
steps of these tenants, doors, ac, and heat that's not
being run properly. I've got somebody that would buy my

(13:59):
church that lived and one of these properties, said that
her and her four children didn't have heat for the
first year, all right, and then they didn't have HVAC.
There's leaking, there's mold, and when they called a complain,
the actual people, the organization that is running this affordable housing. Right,
they are saying, hey, just wipe it up with bleach.
There's no proper procedures, there's no pest control, there's no anything.

(14:22):
And this organization that has had so many different complaints
just received from the city manager's office a million dollar grant,
and so a million dollars going to a lot of
people say, oh, where's that going to go in this
grand scheme of things? Right, let me tell you what
a million dollars can do, because if you look at
the city budget, this stuff adds up. One million dollars
actually can equal to at least and this is conservative, right,

(14:45):
This isn't with you negotiating contracts properly. But let's just say,
based on what we're seeing, a million dollars can have
one center line mile of road completely paved. I'm not
talking about patch, I'm not talking about managed. I'm talking
about completely paved, right, or two if you're only doing
half exactly right, and then one million dollars can also
let's not forget that sixty four percent of our fire

(15:07):
trucks right now with the CFD, they need either maintenanced
or replaced, And so a million dollars can actually provide
a fully equipped fire truck which saved lives.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
That is actually huge.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
When it comes to crime prevention, because you're gonna be
able to get to crime scenes quicker, you're gonna be
able to prevent things a lot quicker there. And then
a million dollars also conservatively can get the ball rolling
on ten new CPD officers. When it comes to actually
doing let's say a lateral hiring class or let's say
onboarding people with training. Ten a million dollars can do

(15:39):
that as well for ten new police officers. So now
let's go into the programs. Because a lot of people say, oh,
it's just a little bit here, a little bit there. Right,
let's look at there's seven point two million dollars that
just got granted to Harrison Avenue. Now, a lot of
people when they hear that, they're, oh, they're gonna pave
the roads, they're gonna fix things, They're gonna do that

(16:00):
Hill's Viaduct is along Harrison Avenue. This is going to
be awesome. Seven point two million dollars toward speed humps,
speed humps and traffic.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Prevention, right, but not repaving, not repaving.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
And then you have three point two million dollars that
win to Act for Cincy, which is a city manager
crime reduction initiative that has nothing to do with the
police force, and that was done under the guise of, hey,
we're going to see crime decrease. Well, I think we
need our money back based on what we're seeing with
this summer. So let's just say that ten million dollars, right,

(16:33):
ten projects, ten million, two projects, ten million dollars. And
that's just a fraction of what goes into a lot
of these programs, a lot of these nonprofits, a lot
of these things. A million dollars for a lot of
these nonprofits pays ten administrative salaries. That's all it does.
For other nonprofits that don't even get city funding, a
million dollars could actually help shake city blocks. It could

(16:55):
help feed people properly, could help do a lot because
a lot of nonprofits in the city they don't even
want to pursue. I talk with a major I'm not
talking about small I'm talking about a major nonprofit in
the city that has buildings with their names on it, right,
And they said that they don't pursue city funding because
they know the stipulations or the strings that will be

(17:15):
attached to it. And these are people that provide free
HVA or free AC units during the summer for people.
They provide free groceries, free housing for those that are
needing a leg up. They do amazing work in the city.
They come in my coffee shop all the time talking
about what they're doing, and they're based on volunteer base
and they're based on donations. So you give it an

(17:37):
organization like that proper funding, oh dear God, they're going
to be able to shake the whole city. But they
won't even pursue city funding because they realize there's always
strings attached and a lot of the organizations that do
get city funding, all they're doing is painted administrative salaries
and making sure that their family members are getting jobs.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
And that's it.

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Thirty fifty five krs DE talk station Coreyboman dot com
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now because I'm staring at him, Corey Bouman. I was
going to at the break there and it was just
testing the waters on this say to cut you off,
because yes, you do know about it. You talk about
a million dollars in what it can accomplish by the

(20:22):
way of you know, lay miles or acquisition of trucks
or funding you know, ten police officers for a year.
Then I thought of well the railroad money. We got
a billion in change piled on the bank account, earning
interest speaking through investments, and uh, well have we gotten
a check on that yet? And if it is so,
how much, where's it gonna go? And what could we

(20:44):
do with it? If you were in charge, Corey Bowmen.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
So this is what you know the current mayor and
administration is saying, which you are getting your first checks
this year this year of fifty four million dollars from
the railroad purchase. So how it is structured is that
you get the one point six billion dollars, you put
it in a trust and then you are investing that and
then based on your interest received, based on your return

(21:07):
on investment, then the city is getting payments of fifty
four million dollars a year, let's say, and that is
spepecifically supposed to go to where it was promised. So
existing infrastructure is their categorization of and so they can
they have started initial programs of paving certain sections of
roads and certain areas of the city to be able

(21:29):
to just say that, hey, they're using the fifty four
million dollars. But this is the problem that's happening right now,
is that, first off, how it's being held. There's a
trust that's holding the one point six billion dollars, and
we're only seeing a very small percentage of increase when
it comes to our return on investment. Second on that,
so you're looking at maybe one to three percent increase

(21:49):
on that, right, So a lot of times it doesn't
even cover the inflation. It definitely doesn't cover the inflation
of the costs of the road. And so you're seeing
an inflation rate of let's say fifty fifty percent. Is
the last time I checked fifty percent inflation rate of
the cost of the materials to be.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Able to pave a real cost?

Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yeah, so the material costs, So already we're losing money
based on this railroad sale. But hey, the deal has
already been done, so we got to figure out how
to spend it properly. But what I tell people is
how we hold it properly because a lot of these
funds under the guise of investment are going to things
that will never be able to return on our investment.

(22:30):
So let's say you look at twenty million dollars of
West End mortgages. Right, twenty million dollars of this fund
is going toward West End mortgages. Now on their books
the assets they say that, hey, this investment, we're getting
our interest. So you're seeing a return on investment, right.
But I know how forgivable loans work. I know how
all these different things on the books. You can justify that, yeah,

(22:52):
we have assets on the books, but these aren't coming
back to the city.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
I'm just telling you that right now, are they getting
market rate interest rates? Like currently mortgages are running around six.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
But here but here's the thing, Brian, what's a market
right interest on a forgivable loan? What's a market straight
market rate interest on a loan that's just going to
be taken off your books.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Eventually, kind of like forgiving student loans. Right, you know,
the money, your interest and then magically wave one.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
So it's just kind of a shell game.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
And then also with this fifty four million dollars, it's
come in the people that wrote it. A lot of
a lot of the people that wrote the contracts were
on the conservative front, saying that our biggest fear is
that there's going to be a shell game in the
budget right to where they're going to divert funds from
the city budget and use the fifty four million dollars
a year for the things that were supposed to be

(23:38):
spent through the city budget. Because the fifty four million
dollars was supposed to be it was supposed to help,
it was supposed to add on top of it. It
wasn't just supposed to do substitute for other funds.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
And well, that's you're making the same are going to
make all the time. Money's fungible exactly, you get fifty
four million dollars in it must go to existing infrastructure. Well,
you were supposed to be fixing existing infrastructure. And how
to how'd you get four hundred miles or four hundred
million dollars behind in lane miles that comes from the
general fund, the annual allocation.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Of the priorities of the budget.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Give the fifty four million, and you put that over
here in the existing infrastructure pile, which no longer the
road miles no longer need to be funded by the
general budget. That means they can throw things at woke projects,
green projects, Well, Alton Goos.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
I'll tell you this. They can recategorize things as well.
So when you have a category of existing infrastructure, they
can categorize that as a railcar, as a streetcar, as
public transportation, or as any of these other things that
they deem as existing infrastructure. They can even deem certain
things when it comes to public safety. That's another thing.
Sixty four percent of our budget goes toward public safety.

(24:49):
So on the books, you can't say that we're defunding
the police. But a lot of these funds aren't going
to the police. They're going toward community initiatives. They're going
toward things like Act for Cincy only, toward things that
have nothing to do with a proper police force. And
so it's this huge shell game of recategorizing things so
that on the books it looks like you're spending the
money where it doesn't need to go. Now, let's go

(25:11):
toward the issue of potholes.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
All right, gonna pause, yeah, because this sounds like it's
got legs. Corey Bowman, it's eight thirty five we'll find
out about potholes, including the one that's outside of his
coffee shop coming out eight thirty five. Right now, if
you have carecy the talk stations stick around.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Fifty five kr?

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Is that okay? How can we get this done with
the quickest that we quickest time possible based on our
current city pacing, based on the history of what we're
seeing in Cincinnati and the current city pacing of our
road crews, it would take forty years forty years to
pave all those roads in Cincinnati, and so that is
unacceptable in my mind. So then when you look at

(25:49):
let's let's put a rush on this, what can we
do well, there's a lot of different options. You can
work with state, county, state, and federal with dots to
be able to make sure that the programs are done properly.
You can get ten crews, you can get even twenty
five crews, two hundred and fifty crews, depending on how
you want to lay this thing out. And then I mean,
if you want chaos in the city, but then a
proper city after afterwards, you could do it in a

(26:12):
year and a half.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
To two years. Everything can be shut down.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
Everything will be shut down everybody. Hey, yeah, Massessaria, But hey,
in a year and a half, two years, you're gonna
come out of your house and every road's gonna be paved,
and it's gonna be like that Wizard of Oz phase
where Dorothy comes out and its color now.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Right, and then they'll ignore it for a long, long, long,
long time, and then the roads will fall apart again
because they're not taking care of real time with what's
falling apart real time, And that's how you get behind
the eight ball like we are now.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Also, you got to look at like some roads, even
if you repave them, you're gonna have to redo. And
I'm not talking about repaving. I'm talking about like you're
gonna have to restructure the capacity of your infrastructure to
take on more add from a two lane to a
four lane, or add another highway, another on ramp. There's
a lot of different things that you got to take
in consideration with that.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
But I would argue that the Kurnaman, being so enlightened
and green, they're not interested in adding any vehicles. They're
not interested in coping with an increase in the number
of cars. They want to reduce the number of cars
get on a bike and ride. That's the mentality they have.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
I want to say this too, by chance, if there's
anybody that is a proponent of public transportation that's watching
or that's listening, I'm not against public transportation. When you
go to major downtown areas, when you go to let's
say New York Chicago, they thrive off their public transportation.
So in our downtown area, we do need to actually
consider things. And this is an official endorsement, but you

(27:35):
got to be able to have conversations about the single
lane public transportation lanes, whether it be with your buses
or whether it be with your street cars or monorails
or subways. Everybody wants to talk about the subway tunnels,
and I'm like, I get it. We want to have
subways in the city. But at the same time, we
got to be able to fix our roads that are
on the surface right now, and then based on our

(27:57):
current public transportation. I'll tell you this. Our Cincinnati Fire Department,
they it's it's very hard for them to do their
job because a lot of times they're in line with
a streetcar or you know there they have to abide
by the line of where that car is going, and
so it makes it harder for them. So these are
things that you always have to consider, and if we
can work together, we can have a proper plan. I'm

(28:19):
looking at it probably I mean, I want to rush
it and say five years, but you're talking about five
to ten years to where the infrastructure of our city
can go to a complete new level, to where not
only are you paving the roads properly, but when it
comes to the capacity for future championships. Let's say NCAA
wants to have a tournament here. Let's say that we

(28:40):
want to have concerts here. We're backed up on a
Tuesday afternoon with no events. When it comes to traffic,
so it's not just about okay, let's throw on public transportation.
It's about let's look overall what our capacity needs to
look like from an infrastructure standpoint to be able to
take this on. And I think that based on what
I'm seeing, there's clear ways. So we can do that

(29:00):
if we have proper relationships with the county, with the state,
with the federal with DOTS and everybody involved in the.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Community, a coordinated effort with a unified goal. The problem is,
and everything you saying makes sense, and I'm sure you
know that the current council makeup and the mayor would
not disagree conceptually with what you've got. The problem is
it is not a priority with exactly. There are more
important fluffy ideas to chase, or NGOs with woke policies

(29:29):
to chase. There's NGOs out there. They're going to fulfill
their green green objectives for the city. And all of that,
you know, may sound wonderful looking at it in a
factual vacuum, it's not when you look at it in
a city that is literally crumbling.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Yes, and so that's what we have to folks on.
I know, if Christopher Smithamn's listened to me, he's probably
going to be mad at me because I get in
the weeds of all these details. He tells me, just kiss,
you know, keep a simple stupid But the thing is
that when we say practical budgeting, when we say infrastructure,
when we say crime, we have a plan. We know,

(30:06):
we know based on what we're seeing. We're surround ourselves
with the right people. And I really believe that one
election can turn this thing around. But we have to
get people out to vote a man.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Since you brought up the fire department earlier, I want
to give a shout out to Michael Washington, the fire
chief that was terminated wrongfully. He was a listener lunch yesterday,
the first time I got to medium, and he's a
hell of a good guy. So Michael, if you're out there,
it was wonderful senior at lunch yesterday. Stick around, folks,
got one more segment with Corey Bumman. Be right back
after these brief words.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Fifty five krsenter.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Final trapped or final lot of traffick on weather in
the morning. Here's the weather parts from Channel nine eighty
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Speaker 2 (30:51):
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(31:14):
through Lachland northbound. Seventy five's running close to an extra
fifteen minutes between Burlington Pike in town Chuck Ingram and
fifty five krs the talk station.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Hey forty eight fifty five KRCD talk station Happy Friday.
He checked for of me.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Dave had to tomorrow morning at six thirty good scene.
Dave Hatter listen to lunch yesterday as well, and Corey
Bowman is in studio. Corybowman dot Com again shout out
with the website. You're doing a debate with AFTAB actually
two of them.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
Yeah, we just I mean so for the one that's
officially confirmed is October ninth, and it's going to be
at Xavier University. They have a ballroom set up. I
believe there is a capacity of about five hundred that
they're agreeing to and so that will be moderated by
Kevin Aldridge. He's the one that did the primary debate before.
So that's going on. Unfortunately, what's looking like is that

(32:08):
the public tickets are sold out. They were sold out
fairly quickly, in about twelve hours. So yeah, we're suspicious
about that one. How many they give you so personally,
we have I believe twenty five per candidate. Xavier and
their faculty has two hundred tickets, so they're distributing those
out and then the public. There was a public registration

(32:31):
link that went fairly quickly.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
And not being familiar with Xavier University, it's current political climate,
I'm just wondering if it's a bastion of conservatism at
that Catholic university.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Great students of Xavier.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
You know you're a politician right there, you're not gonna
call him out, all right, that's wonderful. So two debates
then that's the ninth with the one that's sold out
at Xavier, and then you have a local twelve debate.
You're going to be on Channel twelve at six pm
on the fifteenth.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Right, Yes, we're finalizing all the agreements on it right now,
but that's what it's looking like, is that at six
pm on October fifteenth, during the six o'clock news hour,
we will be live there.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Good and in terms of debate prep, I'm thinking maybe
Todd Zenzer might benefit you having him in your corner.
Todd Zenzer, citizen watchdog, a brilliant man. And here how
about this, Todd Zenzer citizen watchdog city manager under the
Corey Bowman administration. Todd, if you're out there, I'm gunning

(33:28):
for you, man. You couldn't put a more brilliant person
and a more suited person in that role. I'm just saying,
just saying, not trying to control your administration. Vice Mayor
Christopher Smitheman. Anyway, real quick here jokes. Drecker found this
before me and props again, and I mentioned this in
the morning signal ninety nine. She is out on Facebook

(33:49):
and does a wonderful job stand up on top of
city matters as well, kind of like Todd Zenzer, except
more from a law enforcement perspective. But if she sees
shenanigans going on, she calls him out. So purvol in
his ribbon cutting ceremony like efforts is out there announcing
how he You know, the city paid off two undred
nineteen million dollars in medical bills and oh my god,

(34:09):
aren't we great? For over one hundred thousand residents. And
as it comes to find out, according to the Signal
ninety nine, I guess and other reporting on it, they
spent one point four five million dollars and bought the
two hundred and nineteen million dollars in outstanding debt. So
it's like a bankruptcy thing, you know, it's like you're
gonna get pennies on the dollar when you're a creditor.

(34:29):
The providers apparently had written this off is not recoverable,
but it's on the books. Two hunred nineteen million dollars.
City shows up, hands him a check for one point
four to five million, and they wiped that off the book.
So the American run around talking about how he got
two hundred and nineteen million dollars in debt relief. Well,
and signal points that listen, if you're Medicaid, you don't
have you don't know how any medical You already have
medical coverage, you're not having bills Medicare. You may have

(34:51):
some copays, but you're still covered in the senior years.
And people with private insurance are expected to pay their
deductibles in premiums like the rest of us, which most
of us do. So the conclusion is, Hmmm, who actually
was benefiting from this payoff of hospital bills? And how
is it the provol is getting away with saying I
go re loose to it an I two million dollars

(35:12):
was one point four or five million dollars translated to
at least a mile and a half of paved road.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
The only thing I'll say about that because you know,
I don't want to discredit the joy that somebody would
get from having medical debt, you know, removed in the city.
But I find it very very I don't think it's
a coincidence the timing of it.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
That's what I will say with it.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
Because, yeah, what we're what we're dealing with with the
city is that every election year, a lot of these
programs get accelerated. A lot of these things get put
to the forefront because of an election year.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
But then you mean like canoes in the mill Creek.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
But the thing is is that then the the three
years after the election, people get treated like garbage. They
get ignored. There's no transparency when it comes to the administration,
there's no sense of care when it comes to those
three years. But then once the election year hits, well,
that's when we're able to be more active on social media.
That's when we're able to make all these promises. And

(36:13):
for me, I mean for somebody that this is my
first run in politics, it just seemed fairly obvious to
me what was going on.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, but then at.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
The same time it's like, hey, I guess this is
how a lot of people play the game. This isn't
something that I plan to do for me. It's more so, Hey,
whatever our administration is focusing on, that's going to be
what we're focusing on from year one, year two, year three,
year four, and then in four years our track record
is what's going to speak louder than our campaign strategy

(36:42):
for the next.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Year, of course, and you'll be able to offer a
comparison of administrations one versus the other. Corey Bauman, I
wish you all the success in the world. I truly hope,
and you know, I don't know how you're gonna do
is mayor if you get elected, but I'm willing to
encourage people to give it a shot. We know what
we've got currently. Most people are unhappy about at least something.

(37:03):
I think crime maybe number one on that issue. Of late,
we've had all these horrific stories Sarah Herringer and Holly
and the shootings. I mean you mentioned this morning when
you came in to me. Somebody else got shot in
the back.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Well last night somebody in Avedale in the back. Yeah,
and so this is something that we're seeing and we
can't just sit there and say, hey, it's so bad,
give us a shot. I really need people to know
that we have the plans, we have the structure, We're
surrounding ourselves with the right people, and I really believe
that we can turn this thing around with a one election.
It really takes just practical mentalities when it comes to

(37:37):
city hall, prioritizing the budget and making sure that you're
spending the money properly, make sure that you're putting the
priorities on infrastructure and crime, and that's what we're running on.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
And so if.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Anybody's out there listening, that you if you're a Cincinnati voter,
the last date to register too is October sixth. We've
got to get out there and vote, so make sure
to check your registration status. I believe it's vote Hamilton
count and then early voting starts October seventh. A lot
of people want to focus on November fourth as the election.
I encourage every single person out that's listening, get out

(38:10):
there and vote early. And then, just like Christopher Smithman says,
we have to be strategic when it comes to our votes,
So vote for three, four or five city council candidates.
Don't vote for all nine. Vote for three, four or
five city council candidates that you believe in.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Corey Bowman outstanding advice. That's advice that Christopher Smithan also
passed along yesterday during listening to Lunch. Great having you
in studio again. Best of luck, Coreybowman dot com to
help Corey out in his efforts and learn a little
more about the man. Congressman Warren Davidson was on in
the seven o'clock hour talking about the government shutdown as
well as the Empower You simmonar tonight that one is
sound money, Secure Borders, and secure Elections. Starts at seven pm.

(38:49):
You can do the show up at three hundred Great
Oaks Drive. That's the Scarlet Oaks Campus. Empower You studios
are there or log in from home. Just make sure
you register regardless of how you're going to plan on
doing that and empower You America dot org link on
fifty five KRC dot com. Along with this conversation and
my conversation with Congressman Davidson tomorrow, Tech Friday with Dave
Hatter among others, the other things going on, just drecker. God,

(39:10):
bless you, sir, Thank you for what you do for
the morning show production. Everybody, have a great day, and
don't go away because Glenn Beck is coming up next.
Today's top headlines coming up at the top of the hour.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Because the news changes. Fifty five KRC, the talkstation

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