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Speaker 1 (00:03):
She's real find my form.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Nice good afternoon, and welcome to the car show.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'm Dane Donovan taking all of your car questions. The
number to call five one three seven fifty five hundred.
That number again, five one three seven fifty five hundreds
of gorgeous but chilly day. But hope everybody enjoyed their Thanksgiving. Hope. Uh,
it's always good to get around family and friends again.
(00:46):
And I see him and uh, we went to a
We went to a dinner last night, not a thanks obviously,
not a Thanksgiving dinner, but just dinner with some family.
We haven't seen it in a while. And good time
to you know, just catch up up and catch up
on things. You know, we get our lives just get
so oh man, we get so busy and complicated. I mean,
(01:06):
I remember when I was younger and you felt like
you had all the time in the world to get
things done. Now it's like I can't even make it
here on time. So just always something, you know, And
but you know, again, we give our guys, you know, obviously,
we give our guys Thanksgiving off, paid holiday for them.
(01:28):
And then years ago the guys all wanted it off
Fridays because you know they wanted to spend time with family.
So they all said, hey, listen, well we can close
on Friday. You don't have to pay us, and you know,
they can use a sick day of vacation day. And man,
by god, they they love that. They love that four
day weekend. So I mean, don't get it. Don't get
(01:48):
me wrong, I love it too. It is nice to
get some things done around the house. Although I haven't
got anything done around the house. We had some We
had some family and friends over on Thanksgiving once my
in law, and then yesterday was just the blur. Yesterday
was busy and we got to go to the UC
football game later today. That's gonna be a cold one
(02:10):
and so yeah, but again, I hope everybody had a good,
joyful and happy Thanksgiving. Now we've now it's the hustle
and bustle of the holidays. Got to get that Christmas
shopping done and drove past the mall to get here.
It is absolutely packed. I don't think you could pay
me to be in the mall right now with all
those people, But I know a lot of people enjoy it.
I'm not the shopper myself, but uh, you know, luckily
(02:33):
you can do it from home, right, So, but yeah,
so hope everybody's doing well. But again, I'm here to
take all your all of your car questions and number
to call five one three seven fifty five hundred. That
number again, five one three fifty five hundred. You know,
we talked about it, uh last week, you know, snow
(02:53):
and then they just said it. If you were listening earlier,
they're talking about us getting some more snow here coming
up and again and I've been leading up to it.
This is the time of the year that we really
really need to get the cars in, get them inspected. Again.
When I got into this business twenty five years ago,
you know, a lot and I'm talking a lot of people,
well two things, Well, a lot of people would bring
(03:15):
their car in. Hey, I need to have it winter eyes,
I need to have it checked over for winter right now. Yes,
cars have advanced, they're a little different. You know. It
was always like check my coolant, check my belts, my hoses,
my battery and stuff like that. Now your belts, your hoses,
your coolant are gonna be fine. They almost rarely ever
go bad. Right, you still need to replace your coolant,
(03:35):
but you still need to check the battery. You need
to make sure that you know your wipers are replaced.
It's the hardest thing for me to try to sell
this wiper blades. Nobody wants to buy wiper blades, but
I'm telling you it's important. So getting it in, getting
it checked out, and making sure that you're ready for winter.
I mean, we don't know what kind of now. Luckily,
(03:57):
lately we've had some pretty mild winters. Hasn't gotten too bad, right,
but this extreme cold snap, you know when and when
it goes to you know, forties or fifties, and all
of a sudden we get down to the thirties. That
reaks havoc on cars. That's hard on cars. So if
you can prevent a breakdown or prevent some type of
you know, headache, why not do it. So now's the
(04:19):
time again, continue to tell everybody you got to get
them in, got to get them inspected, get them ready
for winter. The other thing is the tires. You heard me.
We talk about it all the time, making sure your
tires are ready for winter. We always have a massive
influx of people who want tires that very first deep
snow and people can't get around Town's all of a sudden, like,
(04:41):
oh man, I need tires, and a lot of times
we can't get to everybody because we've got all of
these people that want tires all at once, and you know,
and it's hard. So now's the time to start thinking
about those things. And you know, again we're going into
the holidays. If no nobody wants to get tires for Christmas,
(05:02):
but hey, I mean, you know, we have gift cards.
We can you know, think about that. If your son
or your daughter's in town from college right which that
most people are, and then they're they're they're gone for
a little bit and then they come back at Christmas time.
If you think your daughter or son needs some tires
or need to get the car inspected while they're home
for the holidays, now's the time to do it. Now
(05:25):
it's the time to start scheduling, because again, I can't
tell you how many people, oh man, I had on Wednesday,
right before Thanksgiving, I had a ton of people. I
probably I took probably about five ten phone calls or
like hey, everybody was like, hey, I'm in town, my
car just broke down, or hey, my daughter's in town,
(05:47):
can you get her into today? And you know, the
day before Thanksgiving, and unfortunately we have a schedule and
it's like, I can't you know, I want to be
able to help everybody and want to be able to
get to everybody's cars and fix everybody's cars, But I
can't do that effectively if everybody waits for the last minute, right,
I know, in our culture, and you know I can
be you know, I'm tooting my own horn here because
(06:09):
I mean I do the same thing from from time
to time. I don't call my dentist the day before,
like hey, I need to get in for a cleaning.
But you know, there's just things that we can do
to prevent, you know, a breakdown or an emergency situation
where you're like, oh no, I can't bring my car
in the Donovance today, so I'm gonna have to go
somewhere else, right, And then we end up maybe making
(06:30):
bad decisions and somebody tells you that you need something
that you don't and so it's it's time to think
about it. And it's really funny when my grandfather started
down av Entire sixty six years ago, like Friday, the
day after you know, black fire, the day after I've
(06:50):
been told I did not witness it. But I've been
told that was the busiest day of the year for
us in the entire business, because that's everybody put their
snow tires on. This is what I'm being told by
my father and my uncle is like, man, it was
the busiest day, busiest day, and uh snow tires, I
mean those are we don't even talk about that anymore.
(07:11):
I might have one or two customers a year that
come in they want their snow tires put on. You
just you don't typically see it anymore. So it's it's
just kind of funny how how the industry itself has has,
you know, changed, Right, we'd get the cars in, you
change oil every three thousand miles, you get the car
major service every thirty thousand miles, and now it's you know,
(07:33):
changing oil every five thousand miles and tune upset one
hundred thousand miles. And used to have snow tires and
now you don't. It's just something that it's just crazy
how the industry has changed, but you still have to
get the car looked at and get it in. So
all right, I'm taking your phone calls and I'm gonna
call five, one, three, seven fifty five hundred. That number
again five one, three seven four nine fifty five hundred. Again.
(07:56):
Phone lines are wide open. If you've got a car question,
love to hear from you. Phone lines again, wide open.
I'll get you right in some you're listening to car
show on fifty five KRC. The talk stations is fifty
five KRC, an iHeartRadio station, taking your car questions and
number to call A five one three hundred. That number
(08:18):
getting five to one, three seven nine fifty five hundred.
It's about that time. We're almost out of time, so
I'm gonna go back to the phones. We've got Bill,
Hey Bill, Hey Bill, Welcome to the car show. How
can I help?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah? I talked to you several shows ago about him
about some a fuse problems and trying to get some
lights checked on it that are on the desk, and
you were telling me the cigarette lighter is connected to
all that and change the fuse, which I did, which
I did, And these big box stores are these changes
that really couldn't read what my lights were doing. But
(08:54):
my question is I had to plug in an air
pomp and it seemed like it blew the fuse again.
So can the head of fifteen in it? Can I
go up to a twenty or yeah? What do you
think of them?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
You going to do that?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Oh yeah, I figure that's what it is. It's drawing
too much current on at air pump.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, probably, Yeah, but you can go to a twenty,
it'd be fine. I mean I wouldn't go all the
way up to a fifty or anything like that, you know,
but yeah, yeah, no going to jumping up to a
twenty twenty five? I think, no, you'll be fine. It's okay.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
That's that's good to know. Any idea why they couldn't read.
They read that it was misfiring on a cylinder because
I put new plugs and wires in and found that problem.
But it didn't show up any any of the ABS
or the brake system are or engine problems, other engine
problems that it's been having, which is a rather strange.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Well one of two things. Either one the scan tool
they were using is really cheap and inexpensive and wouldn't
allow them to go into the ABS module or two.
Sometimes ABS and traction control codes and stuff like that.
Sometimes they'll be present and then the minute you shut
(10:09):
the car off there they basically get erased and then
you you know, so I want to, like I said,
either they didn't have the proper scan tool or the
proper the proper equipment to diagnose it correctly, or two
the coach just weren't present at the time that they
looked at it. I mean, are those are those other
(10:29):
lights that are on in the desk? Are they on
all the time?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yes? All the time? And now he checked it. What
the engine off? Which I thought was rather strange. But
I can see what you're saying there. I mean, should
he have like maybe cleared him out and then maybe
they would come back again a little fresher.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Im possible? So Yeah, to to to properly scan a vehicle, yes,
the car needs to be on but not running, so
the key doesn't the key does have to be present
and uh and the car has to be in the
on position so he can get into the computers, but
not running it won't it won't be able to scan
it running. I think, Yeah, I mean he could, Yes,
(11:12):
I would recommend yeah, going in there, clearing everything, just
basically clear everything, wipe it all out, start over and
drive it and then wait for those lights to kick
back on, and then yeah, scan it again the second.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
That's what I was thinking, I think, But I don't
think he knew how to do that. But but all right,
well you answered a bunch of questions. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
All right, Well thanks for holding on for me. You
have a wonderful holiday. So so he was h cut
him off there, But all right, so all right, taking
your phone calls and I'm gonna call five one, three hundred.
Let's go back to the phones. So we've got Dan, Hey, Dan,
welcome to the car show. How can I help?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Yeah, So, I've got a ninety eight four Runner and
it shut in the yard for about a week and
I went out to start it and the starter just
click click click, like it was a weak battery, and
I thought maybe a door was a jar or something.
So I put it on charge overnight and went out
the next day and hit the key, expecting me to start,
and it did the same thing. I went up and
(12:17):
bought a new battery and brought it home. I put
it in the engine or the compartment where the battery goes,
and when I put the terminals on, the car started up.
With the key out and the ignission off. It started
up really and then and then after it started, I
wouldn't didn't know how to shut it off, and I
(12:40):
know I did something I shouldn't have done. I went
and turned the key to the start position and it
brian died like it wasn't supposed to do that, and
it shut the car off. So I turned the key
back off and disconnected the battery terminal and put it
back on, and it started back up again with no
key in the ignission. And then to shut it off,
(13:02):
I took the air cleaner out and I put a
rag over the hole on the air cleaner and it
hut the engine off, and uh, I did it restarted
it again by putting the battery terminal on. It started
back up, and I set it back off. And That's
where I'm sitting now. Uh I've not done anything since then.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Huh. I don't mean, I don't think I maybe I
don't know. I don't know if I've ever seen that
happen before.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Mostly the research on the internet either leans toward the
UH the starter relay, the actual ignition switch itself, or
a starter sell annoyed.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Well, you could, if you wanted to, you could pull
the starter relay, disconnect the bat. You got the battery
DISCN I could pull the starter relay. It should be
underneath the hood. Find the fuse box. Yes, pull the relay.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Well, I pulled the relay and I didn't know it
hit a clip on it, and I broke the relay.
And my buddy tested the broken one. It did not
work because it had a wire on it. When a
little fine wires broken. I went up and bought a
brand new relay. I have not put it in the vehicle.
I just got home to try that out. But the
(14:28):
Internet said don't drive the car when it's like this.
But if it started, I don't know why you can't
drive the car, but they said it could ruin something.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Well if the starter stayed, well, well, the probably online
when you're reading that a lot of times. I mean, so,
when you hooked the battery ip, does it start the
car up normally as if you're turning the key or
is it or is it grind?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
As soon as I hit the positive terminal. As soon
as I hit that positive turminal, it just started up
like normal, like I was turning the key.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yes, okay, but but it wasn't grinding right. It was
only grinding when you turn the keep.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
The starter was not engaged and it was just running
like normal.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, I'm I you know, man, I would I am,
I would think and would start with the starter. I
don't think, man, I've never I don't think the ignition
switches bad. I don't think it's the starter relay. You
did buy a new one, But I would keep the
(15:30):
relay out and then put the battery in, and then
then put the relay in as it's as you know,
as you've got the battery hooked up, just to see
what happens, just to see what it does.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
To see if it clicks or anything.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Huh, see if you can feel it clicking. Okay, but
it's probably the starter.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Would it be the starter or the selenoid.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Well, it'd be the selenoid. But you can't buy just
the cylinder. You're gonna have to buy the whole starter.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Okay. Well that's what I was hoping not to do
in this weather.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, I understand, But most likely, like you said, could
be the relay. But you're got you're getting a new one.
So if that old relay was bad in theory, if
if it you know, if that old relay was bad,
now you've replaced it with a new one and if
you put the if you put the battery on there,
(16:28):
if you put the battery cables on there, and you
put the relay in, and it still starts, and it's
the starter because you've changed the relay. So it's a
new relay. Right, So we've eliminated we've eliminated that, you know,
because what happens is the relay can get stuck on
one side.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
A relay is kind of like a switch, right, It
goes back and forth. So if so, if that relay
was bad and you've replaced it with a new one
and it still does it, then we've eliminated the fact
that most likely it's not the relay, it's the starter.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
No, I just got home and I haven't I decided
to call you.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Leave the relay out, put the battery together, put the
battery on, and then throw the relay in there and
see what happens. If it starts, then it needs a starter.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Okay, alrighty call me back, let me know.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
All right, you too, alright?
Speaker 4 (17:15):
All right?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Bye? Bye? Oh man. Love love cars, gotta love cars,
so they can be so much fun. But I'll tell
you what. Ninety eight four Runner, one of the probably
in my opinion, one of the best built bulletproof vehicles
ever out on the road. I mean, those things were tanks.
The only the only issue that they really had was
the frames would rot out. If any of you have
(17:37):
a Tacoma or a front four runner, you know what
I'm talking about. The frames rust out, and Toya did
have like a extended warranty on some of them, but
not all of them. So if you've got one, have
the frame inspected and if it is bad, see if
you're covered under the recall. But man, those things were
(17:58):
those things were great. So all right, right, I do
really appreciate everybody calling in. Everybody, I hope again, I
hope you had a great Thanksgiving and it's crunch time
for the holidays here. Stay warm and get that Christmas
shopping ready. I'll be back next Saturday to answer all
of your car questions. Thank you so much, everybody. Thank you,
(18:18):
have a great weekend. You're listening to the Car Show
on fifty five krc D talk station.
She's real find my form.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Nice good afternoon, and welcome to the car show.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'm Dane Donovan taking all of your car questions. The
number to call five one three seven fifty five hundred.
That number again, five one three seven fifty five hundreds
of gorgeous but chilly day. But hope everybody enjoyed their Thanksgiving. Hope. Uh,
it's always good to get around family and friends again.
(00:46):
And I see him and uh, we went to a
We went to a dinner last night, not a thanks obviously,
not a Thanksgiving dinner, but just dinner with some family.
We haven't seen it in a while. And good time
to you know, just catch up up and catch up
on things. You know, we get our lives just get
so oh man, we get so busy and complicated. I mean,
(01:06):
I remember when I was younger and you felt like
you had all the time in the world to get
things done. Now it's like I can't even make it
here on time. So just always something, you know, And
but you know, again, we give our guys, you know, obviously,
we give our guys Thanksgiving off, paid holiday for them.
(01:28):
And then years ago the guys all wanted it off
Fridays because you know they wanted to spend time with family.
So they all said, hey, listen, well we can close
on Friday. You don't have to pay us, and you know,
they can use a sick day of vacation day. And man,
by god, they they love that. They love that four
day weekend. So I mean, don't get it. Don't get
(01:48):
me wrong, I love it too. It is nice to
get some things done around the house. Although I haven't
got anything done around the house. We had some We
had some family and friends over on Thanksgiving once my
in law, and then yesterday was just the blur. Yesterday
was busy and we got to go to the UC
football game later today. That's gonna be a cold one
(02:10):
and so yeah, but again, I hope everybody had a good,
joyful and happy Thanksgiving. Now we've now it's the hustle
and bustle of the holidays. Got to get that Christmas
shopping done and drove past the mall to get here.
It is absolutely packed. I don't think you could pay
me to be in the mall right now with all
those people, But I know a lot of people enjoy it.
I'm not the shopper myself, but uh, you know, luckily
(02:33):
you can do it from home, right, So, but yeah,
so hope everybody's doing well. But again, I'm here to
take all your all of your car questions and number
to call five one three seven fifty five hundred. That
number again, five one three fifty five hundred. You know,
we talked about it, uh last week, you know, snow
(02:53):
and then they just said it. If you were listening earlier,
they're talking about us getting some more snow here coming
up and again and I've been leading up to it.
This is the time of the year that we really
really need to get the cars in, get them inspected. Again.
When I got into this business twenty five years ago,
you know, a lot and I'm talking a lot of people,
well two things, Well, a lot of people would bring
(03:15):
their car in. Hey, I need to have it winter eyes,
I need to have it checked over for winter right now. Yes,
cars have advanced, they're a little different. You know. It
was always like check my coolant, check my belts, my hoses,
my battery and stuff like that. Now your belts, your hoses,
your coolant are gonna be fine. They almost rarely ever
go bad. Right, you still need to replace your coolant,
(03:35):
but you still need to check the battery. You need
to make sure that you know your wipers are replaced.
It's the hardest thing for me to try to sell
this wiper blades. Nobody wants to buy wiper blades, but
I'm telling you it's important. So getting it in, getting
it checked out, and making sure that you're ready for winter.
I mean, we don't know what kind of now. Luckily,
(03:57):
lately we've had some pretty mild winters. Hasn't gotten too bad, right,
but this extreme cold snap, you know when and when
it goes to you know, forties or fifties, and all
of a sudden we get down to the thirties. That
reaks havoc on cars. That's hard on cars. So if
you can prevent a breakdown or prevent some type of
you know, headache, why not do it. So now's the
(04:19):
time again, continue to tell everybody you got to get
them in, got to get them inspected, get them ready
for winter. The other thing is the tires. You heard me.
We talk about it all the time, making sure your
tires are ready for winter. We always have a massive
influx of people who want tires that very first deep
snow and people can't get around Town's all of a sudden, like,
(04:41):
oh man, I need tires, and a lot of times
we can't get to everybody because we've got all of
these people that want tires all at once, and you know,
and it's hard. So now's the time to start thinking
about those things. And you know, again we're going into
the holidays. If no nobody wants to get tires for Christmas,
(05:02):
but hey, I mean, you know, we have gift cards.
We can you know, think about that. If your son
or your daughter's in town from college right which that
most people are, and then they're they're they're gone for
a little bit and then they come back at Christmas time.
If you think your daughter or son needs some tires
or need to get the car inspected while they're home
for the holidays, now's the time to do it. Now
(05:25):
it's the time to start scheduling, because again, I can't
tell you how many people, oh man, I had on Wednesday,
right before Thanksgiving, I had a ton of people. I
probably I took probably about five ten phone calls or
like hey, everybody was like, hey, I'm in town, my
car just broke down, or hey, my daughter's in town,
(05:47):
can you get her into today? And you know, the
day before Thanksgiving, and unfortunately we have a schedule and
it's like, I can't you know, I want to be
able to help everybody and want to be able to
get to everybody's cars and fix everybody's cars, But I
can't do that effectively if everybody waits for the last minute, right,
I know, in our culture, and you know I can
be you know, I'm tooting my own horn here because
(06:09):
I mean I do the same thing from from time
to time. I don't call my dentist the day before,
like hey, I need to get in for a cleaning.
But you know, there's just things that we can do
to prevent, you know, a breakdown or an emergency situation
where you're like, oh no, I can't bring my car
in the Donovance today, so I'm gonna have to go
somewhere else, right, And then we end up maybe making
(06:30):
bad decisions and somebody tells you that you need something
that you don't and so it's it's time to think
about it. And it's really funny when my grandfather started
down av Entire sixty six years ago, like Friday, the
day after you know, black fire, the day after I've
(06:50):
been told I did not witness it. But I've been
told that was the busiest day of the year for
us in the entire business, because that's everybody put their
snow tires on. This is what I'm being told by
my father and my uncle is like, man, it was
the busiest day, busiest day, and uh snow tires, I
mean those are we don't even talk about that anymore.
(07:11):
I might have one or two customers a year that
come in they want their snow tires put on. You
just you don't typically see it anymore. So it's it's
just kind of funny how how the industry itself has has,
you know, changed, Right, we'd get the cars in, you
change oil every three thousand miles, you get the car
major service every thirty thousand miles, and now it's you know,
(07:33):
changing oil every five thousand miles and tune upset one
hundred thousand miles. And used to have snow tires and
now you don't. It's just something that it's just crazy
how the industry has changed, but you still have to
get the car looked at and get it in. So
all right, I'm taking your phone calls and I'm gonna
call five, one, three, seven fifty five hundred. That number
again five one, three seven four nine fifty five hundred. Again.
(07:56):
Phone lines are wide open. If you've got a car question,
love to hear from you. Phone lines again, wide open.
I'll get you right in some you're listening to car
show on fifty five KRC. The talk stations is fifty
five KRC, an iHeartRadio station, taking your car questions and
number to call A five one three hundred. That number
(08:18):
getting five to one, three seven nine fifty five hundred.
It's about that time. We're almost out of time, so
I'm gonna go back to the phones. We've got Bill,
Hey Bill, Hey Bill, Welcome to the car show. How
can I help?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah? I talked to you several shows ago about him
about some a fuse problems and trying to get some
lights checked on it that are on the desk, and
you were telling me the cigarette lighter is connected to
all that and change the fuse, which I did, which
I did, And these big box stores are these changes
that really couldn't read what my lights were doing. But
(08:54):
my question is I had to plug in an air
pomp and it seemed like it blew the fuse again.
So can the head of fifteen in it? Can I
go up to a twenty or yeah? What do you
think of them?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
You going to do that?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Oh yeah, I figure that's what it is. It's drawing
too much current on at air pump.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, probably, Yeah, but you can go to a twenty,
it'd be fine. I mean I wouldn't go all the
way up to a fifty or anything like that, you know,
but yeah, yeah, no going to jumping up to a
twenty twenty five? I think, no, you'll be fine. It's okay.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
That's that's good to know. Any idea why they couldn't read.
They read that it was misfiring on a cylinder because
I put new plugs and wires in and found that problem.
But it didn't show up any any of the ABS
or the brake system are or engine problems, other engine
problems that it's been having, which is a rather strange.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Well one of two things. Either one the scan tool
they were using is really cheap and inexpensive and wouldn't
allow them to go into the ABS module or two.
Sometimes ABS and traction control codes and stuff like that.
Sometimes they'll be present and then the minute you shut
(10:09):
the car off there they basically get erased and then
you you know, so I want to, like I said,
either they didn't have the proper scan tool or the
proper the proper equipment to diagnose it correctly, or two
the coach just weren't present at the time that they
looked at it. I mean, are those are those other
(10:29):
lights that are on in the desk? Are they on
all the time?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yes? All the time? And now he checked it. What
the engine off? Which I thought was rather strange. But
I can see what you're saying there. I mean, should
he have like maybe cleared him out and then maybe
they would come back again a little fresher.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Im possible? So Yeah, to to to properly scan a vehicle, yes,
the car needs to be on but not running, so
the key doesn't the key does have to be present
and uh and the car has to be in the
on position so he can get into the computers, but
not running it won't it won't be able to scan
it running. I think, Yeah, I mean he could, Yes,
(11:12):
I would recommend yeah, going in there, clearing everything, just
basically clear everything, wipe it all out, start over and
drive it and then wait for those lights to kick
back on, and then yeah, scan it again the second.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
That's what I was thinking, I think, But I don't
think he knew how to do that. But but all right,
well you answered a bunch of questions. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
All right, Well thanks for holding on for me. You
have a wonderful holiday. So so he was h cut
him off there, But all right, so all right, taking
your phone calls and I'm gonna call five one, three hundred.
Let's go back to the phones. So we've got Dan, Hey, Dan,
welcome to the car show. How can I help?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Yeah, So, I've got a ninety eight four Runner and
it shut in the yard for about a week and
I went out to start it and the starter just
click click click, like it was a weak battery, and
I thought maybe a door was a jar or something.
So I put it on charge overnight and went out
the next day and hit the key, expecting me to start,
and it did the same thing. I went up and
(12:17):
bought a new battery and brought it home. I put
it in the engine or the compartment where the battery goes,
and when I put the terminals on, the car started up.
With the key out and the ignission off. It started
up really and then and then after it started, I
wouldn't didn't know how to shut it off, and I
(12:40):
know I did something I shouldn't have done. I went
and turned the key to the start position and it
brian died like it wasn't supposed to do that, and
it shut the car off. So I turned the key
back off and disconnected the battery terminal and put it
back on, and it started back up again with no
key in the ignission. And then to shut it off,
(13:02):
I took the air cleaner out and I put a
rag over the hole on the air cleaner and it
hut the engine off, and uh, I did it restarted
it again by putting the battery terminal on. It started
back up, and I set it back off. And That's
where I'm sitting now. Uh I've not done anything since then.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Huh. I don't mean, I don't think I maybe I
don't know. I don't know if I've ever seen that
happen before.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Mostly the research on the internet either leans toward the
UH the starter relay, the actual ignition switch itself, or
a starter sell annoyed.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Well, you could, if you wanted to, you could pull
the starter relay, disconnect the bat. You got the battery
DISCN I could pull the starter relay. It should be
underneath the hood. Find the fuse box. Yes, pull the relay.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Well, I pulled the relay and I didn't know it
hit a clip on it, and I broke the relay.
And my buddy tested the broken one. It did not
work because it had a wire on it. When a
little fine wires broken. I went up and bought a
brand new relay. I have not put it in the vehicle.
I just got home to try that out. But the
(14:28):
Internet said don't drive the car when it's like this.
But if it started, I don't know why you can't
drive the car, but they said it could ruin something.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Well if the starter stayed, well, well, the probably online
when you're reading that a lot of times. I mean, so,
when you hooked the battery ip, does it start the
car up normally as if you're turning the key or
is it or is it grind?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
As soon as I hit the positive terminal. As soon
as I hit that positive turminal, it just started up
like normal, like I was turning the key.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yes, okay, but but it wasn't grinding right. It was
only grinding when you turn the keep.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
The starter was not engaged and it was just running
like normal.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, I'm I you know, man, I would I am,
I would think and would start with the starter. I
don't think, man, I've never I don't think the ignition
switches bad. I don't think it's the starter relay. You
did buy a new one, But I would keep the
(15:30):
relay out and then put the battery in, and then
then put the relay in as it's as you know,
as you've got the battery hooked up, just to see
what happens, just to see what it does.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
To see if it clicks or anything.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Huh, see if you can feel it clicking. Okay, but
it's probably the starter.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Would it be the starter or the selenoid.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Well, it'd be the selenoid. But you can't buy just
the cylinder. You're gonna have to buy the whole starter.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Okay. Well that's what I was hoping not to do
in this weather.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, I understand, But most likely, like you said, could
be the relay. But you're got you're getting a new one.
So if that old relay was bad in theory, if
if it you know, if that old relay was bad,
now you've replaced it with a new one and if
you put the if you put the battery on there,
(16:28):
if you put the battery cables on there, and you
put the relay in, and it still starts, and it's
the starter because you've changed the relay. So it's a
new relay. Right, So we've eliminated we've eliminated that, you know,
because what happens is the relay can get stuck on
one side.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
A relay is kind of like a switch, right, It
goes back and forth. So if so, if that relay
was bad and you've replaced it with a new one
and it still does it, then we've eliminated the fact
that most likely it's not the relay, it's the starter.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
No, I just got home and I haven't I decided
to call you.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Leave the relay out, put the battery together, put the
battery on, and then throw the relay in there and
see what happens. If it starts, then it needs a starter.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Okay, alrighty call me back, let me know.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
All right, you too, alright?
Speaker 4 (17:15):
All right?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Bye? Bye? Oh man. Love love cars, gotta love cars,
so they can be so much fun. But I'll tell
you what. Ninety eight four Runner, one of the probably
in my opinion, one of the best built bulletproof vehicles
ever out on the road. I mean, those things were tanks.
The only the only issue that they really had was
the frames would rot out. If any of you have
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a Tacoma or a front four runner, you know what
I'm talking about. The frames rust out, and Toya did
have like a extended warranty on some of them, but
not all of them. So if you've got one, have
the frame inspected and if it is bad, see if
you're covered under the recall. But man, those things were
(17:58):
those things were great. So all right, right, I do
really appreciate everybody calling in. Everybody, I hope again, I
hope you had a great Thanksgiving and it's crunch time
for the holidays here. Stay warm and get that Christmas
shopping ready. I'll be back next Saturday to answer all
of your car questions. Thank you so much, everybody. Thank you,
(18:18):
have a great weekend. You're listening to the Car Show
on fifty five krc D talk station.
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