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the host downy, good afternoon, Good afternoon, and welcome to
the car. So that's a new that's a new one
for me. So I uh didn't know. Yeah, I didn't
know when to when my intro was so uh but
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hey listen, uh you're you are listening to the car
show fifty five cair see. I'm day nine taking all
of your car questions. Number call five one three that
number again, five one three seven fifty five hundred as
I usually do. You know. It's uh, I've been. It's
good to be back. I want to be here every Saturday,
I really do. It's just you know, with uh, with
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work and three boys all in sports. Man, it's just
really hard to to always get here. But uh, I'm
here again, uh most saturdays. Uh, to take all of
your car questions. Again the number call five, one, three, seven, four,
nine fifty five hundred. Uh. It's a gorgeous Saturday afternoon
and you can't get any better than this. Not too hot,
not too humid right in Cincinnati. You know, if you
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don't like the weather, wait ten minutes and it will change.
But uh, yeah, man, it's it's it's a great Saturday.
And again, happy to be back and uh and uh
again here every Saturday to take all of your car questions.
So uh, I do want to encourage anybody to call
as far as whatever car question you may have or
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car you know, maintenance issue or you know again buying
a new or use one. I was actually I was
watching somebody I follow on social media and uh talking
about cars and whatnot, and this guy, uh, man, he
was talking about used car inspections. And I tell you what,
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it's something that I feel like in the industry most
people don't think about or talk about. But man, if
you are in the market to buy a used vehicle.
And let me tell you with the price of these cars, nowaday,
if you're buying a used vehicle, man, you really really
need to get it inspected by your mechanic, a mechanic
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or by me anybody that needs to put somebody needs
to look at this vehicle. Okay. These cars have a
lot of you know, components that can break easily and
can be very very expensive. Okay. Now, if you're like, well, Dan,
you know, I'm looking at a car and it's coming
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from Florida or Georgia or whatever, you know, you got
to think about find a shop down there near that
place where it's being, where it's coming from, and get
it inspected. To find a reputable shop and wherever it's
coming from and get it inspected. Now, we at Donovan's,
we typically will It depends on the you know, depends
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on the age. It depends on the mileage, of course, right.
So if you've got a car that's twenty years old
and two hundred thousand miles, we're going to typically charge
you more as we're gonna we're gonna have to spend
a lot more time postal car that's one year old
and it's thirteen thousand miles on it, right, you need
to be And just because it's a newer vehicle with
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less miles does not mean it's not a headache or
doesn't mean that it's got problems, right, because a lot
of times, you know, these cars can get wrecked, and
these cars can get damaged, and uh, you know, you
could be buying somebody else's problems, right, classic, classic example.
I had a young lady that was buying a vehicle
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that was a pre owned, certified, pre owned, certified right
lexus right, and so it's good it was certified up
to one hundred thousand miles. Well, guess what I found
out that we she brought it in regardless they had
low miles. I think they wanted forty or fifty thousand
dollars for this vehicle, and it was low miles. I
wanted to haven't inspected. Anyways, we looked at it and
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go and I did inspect it, and sure enough, I
noticed that a lot of the components in the front end,
uh weren't factor they weren't normal. There. You could see
there was a shift in some of the material the
bumper and stuff like that. So come to find out
it was wrecked at the dealership. It was wrecked the
whole front end. I think I think she's I think
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it was like eleven thousand dollars worth a damage to
the front end of this vehicle. And they're selling this
thing as a pre owned, certified vehicle and it wasn't.
And uh, they did all kinds of damage. It wasn't
originally it had been wrecked. And a lot of us
sometimes will you know, we get we get complacent, right,
we say, oh, well, the car facts showed no accident report.
Well it doesn't. That doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't an accident. Okay,
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you know, point in case, uh my vehicle. You know,
if I wreck my vehicle, right, and or you wreck
your vehicle and you've got a buddy that's gonna fix
it for you on the side and doesn't run everything
through car facts, it's not going to be on there.
So you got to be you know, make sure, especially
in today's vehicles, if you're buying a used vehicle, it's
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imperative and it's important that you get it inspected. I
feel like we don't talk about this enough. I feel
like it's something that like, you know, because we get
I get the phone call all the time, do you
guys look at cars before you before I buy use one, absolutely,
And whether you bring it to Donovans or you bring
it to your mechanic or if you're you know, listening
from you know, really anywhere. Anytime you're buying a used vehicle,
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you need to get it inspected by a reputable mechanic.
The other thing that I want to talk about real
quick too, is if you're buying a new vehicle, Okay,
there is an option to buy like an extended factory warranty. Okay,
that is okay. If you're buying a new vehicle and
you haven't your they have an option for an extended
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factory warranty. If you have the ability to in the
in the money to do it, buy it. Okay. It
will save you money down the road, especially with these
new cars. If you're buying a used vehicle with a
after market warranty, listener this factory warranty or after market warranty.
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If you're buying a used vehicle with a after market warranty,
do not buy it. Okay, do not buy it now.
You can buy the car, but do not buy the
after market warranty. They are not it's it's, in my opinion, criminal,
what they do to people. They leave you to believe that, hey,
if anything breaks on this car, you're going to be covered.
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And I've seen it time and time again. They run
people through the ringers on these things, and you don't
get your money back. So again, if you're buying a
new vehicle and they have an availability, if you have
the availability by a factory warranty, go ahead, and if
you can afford it, go ahead and do it, okay,
because it's a factory warranty. But if you're buying a
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used vehicle again and it's an after market warranty, I
don't care who it is. I don't care what the
name of the company is. I don't care what they
promise you. Do not buy it. Take that money that
they want to charge you. Let's just say that after
market warranties, I don't know, five thousand dollars. Take that
money and put it and invest it. Okay. I can
assure you you'll get way more for your money if
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you invest it than buy the after market warranty. Because
everybody is duped to think that this is going to
take care of you, and everything that breaks on this
car is going to be fixed. And I'm telling you
they don't. I see it time and time again and again.
In my opinion, it's criminal what they charge, what they
do to people. And we don't even we don't even
work with any of those companies because they spend, they
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waste so much time and money and your money really
and uh, they're a headaches. So please, if you're buying
a used vehicle, do not buy an after market warranty.
So all right, again, taking your phone calls and Wenna
call five one three hundred. Let's go to the phones.
So we've got Jim. Hey, Jim, welcome to the car show.
I can help, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I finally got a hold of you. I'm going to
I'm want to talk to you about the oil uses
problem with high miless vehicles. Yea, my wife is a
twenty eleven Toyota row Out four, wonderful car. I've got
one hundred and eighty seven thousand miles on it, and
uh they recommend five W twenty oil. So that's and
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I babies to death. It's like now and then it
starts to use it the court. My wife goes it
used to she she knows have to check your own
cars and all that, and and she says it's court long.
Again I look at that. Well, so I got about
a quart of five W thirty and put in it
and it slows it down and still use oil. So
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I put a clod last TP and and then don't
use oil.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Let me.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
It don't. The rings are wore out.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
What what is it? What did you put in it? STP?
So you put so the STP? What what was it? Just?
Was it an additive or was it actual STP oil or.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's s TP. It's thickened oil.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
He used to be in a can who had a
zip top on it and that Now it's in a
plastic bottle. But anyway, it don't use oil anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Really really, huh, I mean, what what's the what what
is the oil that the STP? What's the what is
the discussy of it?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
It's real thick. If you you put a ticket screwdriver
sticking it there and you cannot hold it, cannot hold
that screw there with that stuff, that's slick.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Drag I drag raced all my life. And uh, this
one guy used to all the way around the country
and he gets four or five hundred thousand miles out
of it an engine and I and I.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Said, what do you do?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
He said, well, every time I changed the oil, he said,
I put two cans STP in it. Engine last for
a long time. And that's all I have to say.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Huh, well, I will look into that.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Okay, Well, pleasure, thank you. And I'll tell you what.
I administrated those after market warnings for years. They do
everything they can, everything they can. They'll say, well, I
didn't get a copy of this, not only have to
copy of that. And and because they didn't beat me,
you're gonna see some places won't even mess with them.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I don't. I don't mess with them.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
They're night they but they tell people the bumper to
bumper warn that's only a brand new car. But they
tell them that they think everything's free. I know, but
I'll tell you it was a pleasure speaking to you.
And I know, ye all right, thank you. But yeah,
we getting a little bit of feedback there.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
But yeah, so listen, I'm here to tell you, just
like Jim was saying, uh, two things and this is
a great and we talk about this all the time
on the show. Is listen. Oil consumption is a very
very common problem on most of these vehicles. And I
just had a customer not too long ago, and he goes, hey,
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I'm going through a quart of oil every every thousand miles.
And we're like, yeah, well that's pretty common. And you
could just see the look on his face. He's like
he just wasn't having it, and he just was like,
there's no way this car's burning oil. I'm like, man,
we do a lot of it. That's that's the other
thing is is burning oil. And we talk about this
all the time on the show, but I wanted to
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talk again, you know, I was watching that gentleman on
social media and I just you know, I wanted to
emphasize to you, especially with the costs of these new
these used vehicles, right, they're expensive. Right, it's the second
most expensive, you know, item you're going to have other
than your house. Right, you want to make sure you
take care of it. So if you're buying again, if
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you were when you buy a house, what do we
do We get it inspected by somebody, Right, same thing.
If you're buying of use vehicle, you need to get
it inspected by a mechanic to protect you because again,
it can be It'll save you a lot of money
and a lot of headache if you get it inspected.
So a lot of times we don't talk about it,
and I kind of want to emphasize on that today
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is it's something that should be done. So all right,
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I was a bit busy the past two weeks, but
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call five one, three, seven fifty five hundred. Let's go
back to the phones. So we've got Opie, Hey, Obi, welcome,
welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I can help welcome back. And I'm going to tell
you right now, enjoy them young is while you can,
because they grew up too fast.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I know, man, I my daughter, I just I just
had I just.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Had a grand baby about six weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
So well, congratulations.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
My daughter gave me a grand baby, you know. But
you know, two weeks ago I told her how to drive.
So talking about them pre hit the pre purchase inspections.
My wife's oh seven f two fifty that I bought
eighteen years ago. Found a really good deal on it. It
was a truck out of Texas, low miles, but it
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was all the way up by Cleveland. We drove up
there and I called a Ford dealer, took it over
to Ford dealer. They charged to be seventy five bucks.
They went over this thing and and now mind you,
it's a six to o, which you know six o's
were Notoris were popping the headstuds. So the shop that
had it they had to in order to change the
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head studs, you have to pull the cab and the
doghouse off. They did the headstud bulletproofed. It did everything
that Ford should have done to begin with. Well, I
took it over to this Ford dealer and they looked
at it and they said the radiator's leaking. And they said,
that's a twenty five hundred dollars job to put a
radiator in this thing. And they said, oh, by the way,
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the bearings and the turbot were on their way out.
Took it back to the place where we were buying
it from I and I gave them a report from
a Ford dealer and I said, YO, want to fix
this or or the you know, the deal's over with
And they said, well, you know what, we can't sell
this if we don't fix it. They fixed it. We
still got it for the same price and add down
the road we went.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, that, you know, And that's a great, great point.
And I tell my customers this all the time. You know,
when you're doing when you what how what you do
is when you're looking at a used vehicle and you
get it inspected in your mechanic or whoever you take
it to find something wrong with it, it gives you
the upper hand. It gives you the leverage. Right, so
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if they find these problems, right, you can go back
there and say, hey, you go, can you fix these things?
I'll buy the truck. Can you fix these things? Or
can you take it off the price of the truck,
because I'm gonna have to turn around and spend you know,
another you know, five thousand or twenty five hundred dollars
like you said, another twenty five hundred dollars to fix
this radiator. Can you take the price? Can you take
it the price off the car or the truck, or
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can you fix it?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
They not only replaced the radiator, they also replace the turbot, which.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
That that was probably another that was probably five five
grand there too.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah. Yeah, so so it worked. I mean, and it
wouldn't look it wasn't like I took a Cocooter's garage, right,
you know. I mean I took it to the Ford
dealer and they had that thing for three hours, and
like I said, they were charging seventy five bucks, and
they gave me a laundry list of stuff. You know,
there was a few connectors that weren't plugged in from
where they had the cab off of it and all
that stuff, which they fixed some of that and as
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they found it, and then you know, they gave me
a laundry list and you know, and they said, well, yeah,
we'll fix it, we'll do the deal. Come back in
a week and pick it up. So my wife, my
wife and my mom went up there and picked it
up and brought it back.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I mean, it's it's a great example. And again, you
know a lot of people too think that, hey, if
you're buying a car from a used car lot or
a deal even a dealership you're buying a used car from,
then like, oh, it should be in good mechanical No,
these people are I'm sorry, but they're salesmen. They're just
their job is sella There.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Are three people. There are three people that aren't trust politicians, lawyers,
and car salesmen.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Not necessarily right right, right, yeah, and listen, you take
some other calls, man, I appreciate it. You have a
great weekend, you can. Uh. So Again, when you're buying
a vehicle used or from a dealership, it doesn't really
matter because a lot of people are well, I'm buying
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it from a dealership, so it should be good. That
does not always mean the case. That's not always the case.
And again, I'm not picking on used car salesmen. I'm
not picking on used car lots. These people their job
is to sell cars. They're not mechanics, right, And again
I'm not picking I'm not saying that they are trying
to deceive you. I'm not saying that that that everybody's
just dishonest. I'm just saying, if you're buying something, especially
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with the cost of today's cars, make sure you get
it inspected. And again, I'm not saying that they're trying
to pull the wool over your eyes and you're you know,
they're just trying to sell you, you know, you know,
a piece of crap. I'm just saying, get it inspected. Again,
their job, they're not mechanics. They don't look at these
cars when they're selling these cars. They don't pop the hood,
they don't get it up on the on the lift
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and take a look at it. They don't know what
they're looking at. Right. Their job is just to sell
a car, it's not to find out if there's anything
wrong with it. So again it's imperative. It's important that
you get it inspected. And again, let me reiterate, do
not buy an aftermark a warranty period. So all right,
let's go back to the phones. We've got Jim. Hey, Jim,
welcome to the car show. How can I help.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Hi?
Speaker 6 (19:35):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I'm good? How are you good? Good?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (19:40):
I've got a twenty three four Runner that we bought recently,
and I'll just wondering as far as buying RUSS protection
from I turn it down as a dealership. But like
z Bart's been around here forever and so forth, I
know these things with these vehicles today are better protected,
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you know, as they're built from rush and whatnot. But
what's your opinion on the z Barts of the world
out there in terms of added rust protection?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
You know what? Great question? Great question. So and listen,
I had this conversation with my brother earlier this week.
I said, you know, we were talking about a car
and my truck actually because my older truck and it's
just so rusted. I'm like, well, you know, we live
in the rust belt here, and yeah, everything that's out there,
you know with the Brian they put down the salt
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and everything that we deal with, it's something that should
we can talk about. Now. I think with it being
a twenty three, how many miles are on it?
Speaker 6 (20:49):
We bought it with five thousand. I was a demo,
so I want to say it's got seven on it now?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Okay? All right? And does I think there's some factors
that we need to think about out here? What part
it says you're in alexandera, Kentucky? Yeah, uh huh. And
is this vehicle does it stay? Is it is it
gonna be outside its entire life? Or is it garage kept?
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Garage?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Okay? So I think if a vehicle, if a vehicle
is staying outside its whole life, I think it's something
that you should look into. If it's being garage kept,
I don't think that. And it's been Is this a
daily driver for you? Yes? Okay? The I see a
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lot of cars that come in that have the Z
bar on it there and they're protected or whatnot. I think,
if you're gonna do it, I'm not against it. If
you're gonna do it, I would do it sooner than later.
Here's and here's why sometimes when they when once they
spray that stuff a lot of times too, it just
traps if there's already run. Like if you've got a
car that's ten years old and you want to do it,
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I would not recommend it, because all you do is
just trap it. You just trap the water and you
trap it in there, and then, in my opinion, you're
not really blocking it, you're justscapsulating it. But then it
continues to continue to rus. So yeah, on the on
the four Runner, though, I would have to have to
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look at it, because the older four Runners and the
older Tundras and the Kuna's man that I tell you
what I've seen, I can't tell you how many of
those cars I've come that have come into my shop
with the frames rotted out on it. I think Toyota,
oh yeah, it's a massive problem, massive problem. And yeah,
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you know, and they did honor some of the frames
and replacing some of the frames, but not all of them.
I think that Toyota has gotten away from that. I
would have to because again with it being a twenty three,
i'd have to look at it.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I don't think it's a bad thing. But here here
hear me out on this too. When you when they
do that, you know they hit all those bull and
everything like that. So if there's in the fuel lines
and brake lines and everything like that, So going down
the road, if you have to remove those bolts, well
you can't get a you know, a socket on it
because the bolt's just covered in that that Z Bart stuff.
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So yeah, you know, I'm not against it. I just
if you're gonna drive it and keep it in the garage,
if you're gonna drive it daily, keep it in the garage,
I don't. I wouldn't do it. I'd leave it the
way it was.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Uh, well, what's the difference of leaving it in the garage.
I mean we're still gonna drive it on the assalted
road and then pull it in the garage versus leaving
it in the driveway.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah. Correct, But here here because what happens is when
it sits outside. Okay, that moisture that's on the blacktop
or on the concrete, that moisture. Obviously, when it evaporates,
it it rises, right, so it goes up and it
just collects there. Right. So if it sits in the garage,
obviously the frame or whatnot's gonna drink and whatnot, and yes,
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that water will evaporate, but it's not exposed to the
elements the way it is if it sits outside. You
know what I mean. I mean, I had correct and
I had a gentleman that had a ninety his unfortunately
his parents passed away. It was like a ninety seven
Cadillac and had like thirty thousand miles on it. Right,
this thing sat outside its whole life. It was a
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ninety cent. This was I don't know, probably about five
years ago, right, so it was pretty old car. It's
twenty years old something like that. And you know, he's like,
I said, man, this thing is an absolute rusted mess.
You need to get rode it. And he's like, well,
it's only got thirty thousand miles on it. I'm like,
I understand that. But it sat outside on the black
top outside its entire life, and it's a rusted mess. Now,
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if you've got a car that's sitting in a garage
for that amount of time, it's not getting that exposure
to the elements of the weather. So it's really that's
really key is keeping a car in a garage. That's
how you're gonna get the longevity out of a vehicle.
So I think think with the age of it, and
again I would have to see it to this. I
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don't know if Toyota has got away some of these,
I mean, they still have a frame. But I just
I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Let let's le let's put it this way. If I
buy a new vehicle, I'm not gonna do it. I
just I don't like covering all that stuff up because
if there's any type of repair that needs to be
done down the road, you've you've kind of just created
another problem. So yeah, so but I mean, you know,
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again I'm not against it, but I just I'm not
going to do it to my I don't do it
to my vehicle.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
So do you have an opinion on you know, they've
got paint protection and different types of that. You know
where they put up.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
The ceramic coding. Yeah, I would do that, yeah, absolutely, Uh,
the ceramic coating I would do.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I mean even some of your kind of your local
car washers will offer some type of ceramica. It's not
really a ceramic coding like. You need to take it
to a professional and have it done. Now it's pretty pricey,
but yes, I mean as far as the paint goes,
I think, especially with the debris and rocks and salt
and everything like that. Yeah, protect the paint because it
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can be. Bodywork is very expensive. But I would do
I would recommend that the z bart I just again,
I'm you know, I'm I don't have a problem with it,
but I just wouldn't do it to my own vehicle.
So okay, all right.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Well that helps a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
All right, thanks, take all right, you're welcome to take care.
So you know the thing is too and and I'm
going back to the whole get the car inspected. Right,
You look at these cars and the top, you know,
the rest of the whole body is oh man, this
car is great. The inside's perfect. Whatnot? The problem is
you get it up in the air. It's a whole
(26:58):
nother story. And I time and time again, I'll get
these cars that come into our shop to get inspected,
get them up in the air, and they do look great.
You get them up in the air and they're an
absolute rusted mess. And come to find out, if they
come from Michigan, you know, northern Ohio, New York, you
know up all those again, northern states, these things are
(27:21):
absolute rusted messes. They are messes, and it creates a
tremendous amount of problems. Right. So again, if you're going
back to buying and used vehicle and it is out
of state, you want the Southern States, you want Georgia, Florida, Texas,
somewhere like that, because it's not exposed to all the
elements of the salt and the brine and everything else
(27:43):
they put in the streets these nowadays up here in
the north. So it's important too. Just because the interior
is perfect and the exterior is perfect and it looks
great underneath tells a whole other story, right, So it's
something to think about when you're buying a used vehicle.
So I thought Jim's questions were so. And again, if
you're if your car is twenty years old and you're
(28:05):
not familiar with z bar z Bart kind of basically
capsulate capsulizes and and and supposed to prevent the rust
from getting any worse. Right, But What happens though, too,
is it also traps the moisture and the water in
there too if it's not done perfectly. Well. Okay, now,
I've seen some jobs that are done well. I've seen
(28:27):
some jobs that are done horribly. And you want to
make sure that if you do want to do it,
you make sure one the car is fairly new, and
then two you want to make sure that you find
a reputable guy that can do it. All right. Again,
I'm not too familiar with who's the best in in
the Cincinnati area, the Tristate area that can do it,
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but it is an option for you. So and uh so, anyways,
all right, taking your phone calls and I recall five one, three, seven, nine,
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Taking your car questions the number call five one three
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to the car show. How can I help?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Well? You and I spoke a couple of weeks ago
about my twenty twenty passbinder about the alternator. You remember
that because I called follow it up with your shop,
and I think you were correct. But however it went
out again and I had to have it toad. As
a matter of fact, Triple A said this is your
fifth toe. You're not getting any more toes. So I
did actually take it to the place I go out
(30:07):
here in East Kate, Ohio, and they said, now you
need to take it to the dealership, and it turns
out it was the alternator. Now, I having said that,
and if you remember, I told you, I had about
one thousand miles left before the warranty, the extended warranty
if purchased went out. Yeah, and believe it or not,
(30:28):
the car went out, it got fixed and the my
deductible was one hundred dollars and that's what I paid
for a fifteen hundred dollars alternator was one hundred dollars deductible.
So they act. I've had other extended warranties where they're idiots,
like you said, okay, but for whatever reason, and I'll
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tell you the insurance company with a fidelity warranty. And
I purchased this car from over On loving the McGear
road hurts run a car when it went out of
business because they were giving away these cars.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
But it.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
It actually it actually worked. So I was like, I
was totally shocked too, but it actually worked. I only
paid one hundred dollars deductible to have the entire alternator replaced.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Well, I mean, that's that's great, and that's absolutely great.
And you know, and listen, you know, when I was
working with these companies, like I said, I don't do
I just don't do bus with them anymore because it's
an absolute headache. But what what they do typically is
they say, hey, listen, we don't we don't pay any diagnostic,
we don't pay any shop supply fees, we don't pay
(31:33):
any taxes, we don't pay what's your labor rate? And
you're like, you know labor rates one hundred bucks, Well,
we only pay fifty dollars an hour, right, And then
what happens is and then and then if it's a
big repair like yours, typically they'll sit there and go, well,
we need to send our own guy out there to
basically diagnose it and make sure that you know what
you're doing. So then you're waiting two or three days
(31:55):
for somebody to come out and verify that yes, the
car does need the old and then you know, all
in all, what I see primarily is is like, okay,
well we'll pay the job's fifteen hundred dollars, right, but
we'll pay seven hundred and fifty. And I just don't
I don't think that's I don't think that's right. I
mean in your case, I mean that's great. And who
(32:16):
who was the company through, Well.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
It's through Fidelity, and who I took it to was
my and I'll tell you dealership in Escape and it
was like okay, yeah, yeah, we've got disapproved. I was like, wow, okay,
But it was the cool thing is they hit my
car for a week, so they gave me a courtesy car.
So I had one of these little the kicks. I
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don't know if we've got like nine million miles to
the gas, yeah, help me five bucks to fill it up.
So I was like, I like my Pathfinder.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Okay, I like a little bigger ves, a little.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
More metal around me. But I was I was shocked
that they did it, but it was and it was
I bott loved them in Deer from the Hurts rent
a car that used to be there. You know what
I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
About, right, mm hmm, yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah. So I was like, I mean they were giving
these cars away. And in twenty twenty, I got a
twenty twenty Passfinder for twenty three thousand dollars. And I
typically do not get extended warranties. But that little magnum
Ti voice, if you remember that going off, It was like,
you know, you can get in this car almost from nothing.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Why don't you just.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Go ahead and get it?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:32):
And like I said, like we talked a couple of
weeks ago. It was right before the warranty expired, and
I was like, I don't even know if they're going
to cover this, but they went ahead and covered it.
I was totally shocked.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah that's I mean, that's that's awesome. And like I said,
I have seen I have seen people where it does
work out for him, but nine out of ten times
it doesen't. But in your case, it worked out for you.
I'm I'm I'm I'm happy for you, man. So that's good.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
No, I agree. I agree with you because I've got
extensive word to you on other cars that I've owned
and they're like, God, no, this isn't covered, this isn't covered,
this isn't covered, this isn't cover. I'm like, for.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Real, Yeah, OK, yeah, I had I had a customer
one time that has a Chevy. I can't remember what
kind of car it was, but anyways, he needed a compressor, right,
and so if you read the fine detail says a
C compressor's covered, right, so call them up, call the
insurance company and they're like, yep, it's a C compressor.
It's bad yep. I was like, is it covered, Yep,
(34:30):
it's covered. I was like, all right. We're like, why,
what's wrong with the compressor? Said, well, it's it's I said,
it's leaking out of the front seal the A C
compressor and they're like, oh, that's not covered. I said,
the compressor's covered, yeah, but the front seal is not really,
so you gotta replace. I was like, well, I have
to replace the whole compressor to replace the seal. Yep,
front In the fine print it said the front seal
(34:52):
wasn't covered, but everything else was. And I'm like, man,
that's that. That ain't that's not right.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, that's petty. That's petty.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah. Yeah. So you know, so the customer still had
to pay twelve hundred dollars for a compressor because the
front seal was leaging. And again, listen, they've got lawyers,
they've got you know, they've got people writing, writing all
this stuff out, and they've got this stuff all figured out,
and I just feel that it's it's it's just very
deceiving to the general public. So that's kind of why
(35:20):
I got I get turned off, just turn off from it.
But again, I guess it can work in some people
if you do have one out there and you're like, oh, shoot,
I shouldn't have bought it. It can work out in
your benefit, especially in your case. It can work out.
But if you can avoid doing it, I would because
it's a whole bunch of record. And again in your case,
(35:40):
so if you would have brought it to my shop
and I had it for a week, I wouldn't have
the ability to give you a loaner car, right, so
you'd be without a car for an entire week, you
know what I mean. So that's the other side.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
We have three cars. We have three car we have
an extra car. As a matter of fact, my wife's
driving it now. But I'm sitting here looking at it.
It said paid one seventy dollars two cents, the labor
was nine to ninety nine point seventy five and the
part for a three seventy two point seven. So yeah, yeah,
(36:12):
I was like, and why I got you on the phone.
Let me ask you another question about brake fluids, because
they have you on telephone. I was told because when
they checked my car it was like, you got a
little coloring going on your brake fluid. I guess it's copper.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I think, is that what they call it?
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Copper? Or where where it's not your traditional red break fluid.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Well, the break fluid, the brake fluid should look the
brake fluid should look like yellowish, it should look like
apple juice.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Okay, okay, so it's actually a little.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
It's actually lighter than that. But when it starts getting
darker or starting to look like apple juice or darker colored,
it should be changed. So, I mean typically most manufacturers
recommend every two years that it should be that it
should be changed. And listen, Uh, we do it at
our shop.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
You know, break fluid absorbs moisture. Over time, you'll get
a fading pedal because that moisture. Obviously, you know again
it's are you gonna have some type of catastrophic failure
if you.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Don't do it?
Speaker 1 (37:19):
No, But if you want to up keep your car,
you want to keep it going, and you want to
have a more responsive brake pedal and prolong the hoses
and the calibers and that thing, you should you should
change it.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
But you know again, all my vehicles, all my vehicles
get oil changes with synthetic as five thousand miles or less.
That's I don't play around with vehicles. So and I
will caution I'm gonna throw this out there. I'm not
advocating or they're going against anybody, but I was told
(37:53):
that my bug. When they brought it in, they did
a service check off. Yeah, video and service it. But
then they the service guy was like, your your fog
lights don't work. I was like, really, when I brought
it in, they work, but I checked them the night
before last. I'm like, I said, you had my fog
lights turned off instead of turned on. So they wanted
(38:15):
to replace my fog light. Yeah, so buyer beware. I
guess I'm that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I want
to follow up with you. But it actually turned out
to be the alternator and you and I we've had
two discussions on this prior to this, so.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Well, I do remember. I do remember it so well.
Great man, that's awesome. I'm glad it worked out for you.
So I appreciate the phone call.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
All right, man, A great day.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
All right you too, Bye bye? All right again, taking
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Welcome back, taking your car questions, and then I want
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We are running out of time, so I want to
go back to the phones as quickly as we can.
We've got Bill, Hey, Bill, welcome to the car show.
How I can help? Thank you for patiently waiting.
Speaker 8 (39:40):
No, you're welcome, Thanks for taking a call.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Sure, how can I help?
Speaker 8 (39:45):
I've picked up ninety four our Chevy truck. You know,
I'm going to try to restore it, and it's been
sitting with gas in it for our all many years,
and I just want to get your opinion the best
way to get the gas out. What it'd be the
take the fuel filter off and let it pump out,
or somebody suggested taking it off with the fuel injection,
(40:09):
you know, in the engine then and let the relay
pump it out, or I'm not sure which way here.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah, we said you wanted to restore it.
Speaker 8 (40:20):
Yeah, I mean it's a full size truck and I
don't see too many of those around anymore.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
No, no, you don't. How long How long has the
truck been?
Speaker 6 (40:26):
How long?
Speaker 1 (40:27):
How old do you think the gas is?
Speaker 8 (40:30):
I would say about four or five years, maybe a little.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah. Oh, there's nothing worse than the smell of stale gas.
Speaker 8 (40:38):
I discarded before I had a toad, and then once
I gave a gas that died and haven't been able
to start it since.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Man.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Well, typically I mean you could you could, you know,
take the line off at the one of the lines
off of the fuel filter and just pump it all out.
You could do that, I mean the way we would
do it at my shopping You may not be able
to do this, but what we would typically do is
and the easiest way to do it is. We would
take the bed off the frame and again, typically most
(41:14):
trucks there's three there's six bolts that hold there's three
on each side of that frame that that hold that
that bed in there. Typically that's what we would do
is we would just you know, and the beds are
really really light. I mean, it usually only takes about
two maybe three guys just take those six bolts out
(41:35):
and lift that bed off, that off that frame, and
then the tank is right there, and then it's got
a plastic most likely, well it's a ninety four, so
it's got probably a metal locker ring. You just take
a screwdriver or a chisel, and a screwdriver would be recommended.
You don't want any sparks, and you want to knock
that locking ring off and just pull that pump out,
(41:56):
suck it out. I mean, I think that would be
the best, but again that's a lot of work. I mean,
you could take it off at the fuel filter and
have it pump out, but the pump could be bad too,
where it's not gonna pump out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (42:11):
Yeah, then you got a point there. Would that be
better sitting and dropping the tank?
Speaker 1 (42:16):
No, I wouldn't no, because those straps, the typically the
straps are completely severely rusted. The bolts that hold the
straps in are severely rusted, and they typically will break
off and you can't get the straps off, and where
the bolts for the bed you can get out. I've
(42:36):
never ever ever had a problem getting the bed bolts out,
always have a problem getting the fuel tank straps. So
I would not drop the tank. It would be easier.
If you're gonna drop the tank, don't just take the
bed off. But if the pump is working, yeah, obviously
get a bucket or pail or something underneath it and
(42:59):
try to pump it out out. But man, back in
those days, I mean GM and four were notorious for
bad fuel pumps. But you could try it.
Speaker 6 (43:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
And then the other thing though, too, is if that
fuel filter itself, that line, the nut that screws into
that filter, if it's all rusted, right, it's all rusted,
it will come off. Then you can't get it off.
Then you you know, break the fuel line, and then
you're not gonna be able to get fuel lines for it,
and it could open up a can of worms. I
(43:30):
would probably just take the bed off make it a
Saturday project. Take the it's six bolts. I mean most
trucks have just three bolts on each side of the frame. Yes,
it would require a little bit more work, but you're
taking that bed off, you're gonna restore it anyways. Take
that bet off. The pump is right there. It would
make your life so much easier by going that route.
(43:52):
That's the way I would do it, And I'd siphon
it out that way.
Speaker 8 (43:55):
Oh kenead of for the pillar two as well, Like
that's those pump hand pumps that siphon it out.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
So most most I don't on a ninety four, I'm
not sure, but most vehicles they've got like a like
a ball that's in the filler neck, so if the
if the truck was to flip over, the gas doesn't
pour out of there, and so people can't siphon the
gas out of it. On a ninety four, it probably
you probably still can't siphon the gas out of it.
I'm not quite sure. I know on these newer cars,
(44:25):
most of the cars that are out there today, they've
got a ball that won't allow so if again, if
the car does tip, the gas doesn't pour out of it.
You know. Yeah, So I mean you can you can try.
There's a it's on Amazon. There's a pump. It's like
a manual pump. It's just got a little marble at
(44:46):
the end of it. But you would run it down
there and then you just shake it and it. Man,
the things you can get them for like they're cheap.
I don't want to say, like twenty six bucks. You
can try to siphon it out that way, but I
think the best way would be just take the bed
off the frame and and uh and and go that route.
(45:07):
So all right, it.
Speaker 8 (45:09):
Wouldn't have been good to change that filter anyway.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
And it would be absolutely it would be. But I
would I would recommend if you're gonna do it, you
make I would get some PB blast or some WT
forty and so get some some type of penetrating oil
and you soak that thing for a couple of days.
Soak it. Let it try to work its way in there,
so you don't, you know, get one of those lines
(45:34):
it's all rusted and and and create a headache for you.
So hey, listen, I gotta go. I really do appreciate it.
Thanks for holding all right, all right, take care, Brandy.
I apologize. Please call me back next Saturday. I'll be
back to answer all of your car questions. I really
do appreciate everybody calling. Everybody, have a great weekend. Uh
let's go Bangles right Hooday, we need to win tomorrow.
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And again, happy to be back and uh and uh
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So uh, I do want to encourage anybody to call
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car you know, maintenance issue or you know again buying
a new or use one. I was actually I was
watching somebody I follow on social media and uh talking
about cars and whatnot, and this guy, uh, man, he
was talking about used car inspections. And I tell you what,
(02:47):
it's something that I feel like in the industry most
people don't think about or talk about. But man, if
you are in the market to buy a used vehicle.
And let me tell you with the price of these cars, nowaday,
if you're buying a used vehicle, man, you really really
need to get it inspected by your mechanic, a mechanic
(03:09):
or by me anybody that needs to put somebody needs
to look at this vehicle. Okay. These cars have a
lot of you know, components that can break easily and
can be very very expensive. Okay. Now, if you're like, well, Dan,
you know, I'm looking at a car and it's coming
(03:29):
from Florida or Georgia or whatever, you know, you got
to think about find a shop down there near that
place where it's being, where it's coming from, and get
it inspected. To find a reputable shop and wherever it's
coming from and get it inspected. Now, we at Donovan's,
we typically will It depends on the you know, depends
(03:51):
on the age. It depends on the mileage, of course, right.
So if you've got a car that's twenty years old
and two hundred thousand miles, we're going to typically charge
you more as we're gonna we're gonna have to spend
a lot more time postal car that's one year old
and it's thirteen thousand miles on it, right, you need
to be And just because it's a newer vehicle with
(04:11):
less miles does not mean it's not a headache or
doesn't mean that it's got problems, right, because a lot
of times, you know, these cars can get wrecked, and
these cars can get damaged, and uh, you know, you
could be buying somebody else's problems, right, classic, classic example.
I had a young lady that was buying a vehicle
(04:32):
that was a pre owned, certified, pre owned, certified right
lexus right, and so it's good it was certified up
to one hundred thousand miles. Well, guess what I found
out that we she brought it in regardless they had
low miles. I think they wanted forty or fifty thousand
dollars for this vehicle, and it was low miles. I
wanted to haven't inspected. Anyways, we looked at it and
(04:54):
go and I did inspect it, and sure enough, I
noticed that a lot of the components in the front end,
uh weren't factor they weren't normal. There. You could see
there was a shift in some of the material the
bumper and stuff like that. So come to find out
it was wrecked at the dealership. It was wrecked the
whole front end. I think I think she's I think
(05:14):
it was like eleven thousand dollars worth a damage to
the front end of this vehicle. And they're selling this
thing as a pre owned, certified vehicle and it wasn't.
And uh, they did all kinds of damage. It wasn't
originally it had been wrecked. And a lot of us
sometimes will you know, we get we get complacent, right,
we say, oh, well, the car facts showed no accident report.
Well it doesn't. That doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't an accident. Okay,
(05:39):
you know, point in case, uh my vehicle. You know,
if I wreck my vehicle, right, and or you wreck
your vehicle and you've got a buddy that's gonna fix
it for you on the side and doesn't run everything
through car facts, it's not going to be on there.
So you got to be you know, make sure, especially
in today's vehicles, if you're buying a used vehicle, it's
(06:01):
imperative and it's important that you get it inspected. I
feel like we don't talk about this enough. I feel
like it's something that like, you know, because we get
I get the phone call all the time, do you
guys look at cars before you before I buy use one, absolutely,
And whether you bring it to Donovans or you bring
it to your mechanic or if you're you know, listening
from you know, really anywhere. Anytime you're buying a used vehicle,
(06:26):
you need to get it inspected by a reputable mechanic.
The other thing that I want to talk about real
quick too, is if you're buying a new vehicle, Okay,
there is an option to buy like an extended factory warranty. Okay,
that is okay. If you're buying a new vehicle and
you haven't your they have an option for an extended
(06:49):
factory warranty. If you have the ability to in the
in the money to do it, buy it. Okay. It
will save you money down the road, especially with these
new cars. If you're buying a used vehicle with a
after market warranty, listener this factory warranty or after market warranty.
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If you're buying a used vehicle with a after market warranty,
do not buy it. Okay, do not buy it now.
You can buy the car, but do not buy the
after market warranty. They are not it's it's, in my opinion, criminal,
what they do to people. They leave you to believe that, hey,
if anything breaks on this car, you're going to be covered.
(07:33):
And I've seen it time and time again. They run
people through the ringers on these things, and you don't
get your money back. So again, if you're buying a
new vehicle and they have an availability, if you have
the availability by a factory warranty, go ahead, and if
you can afford it, go ahead and do it, okay,
because it's a factory warranty. But if you're buying a
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used vehicle again and it's an after market warranty, I
don't care who it is. I don't care what the
name of the company is. I don't care what they
promise you. Do not buy it. Take that money that
they want to charge you. Let's just say that after
market warranties, I don't know, five thousand dollars. Take that
money and put it and invest it. Okay. I can
assure you you'll get way more for your money if
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you invest it than buy the after market warranty. Because
everybody is duped to think that this is going to
take care of you, and everything that breaks on this
car is going to be fixed. And I'm telling you
they don't. I see it time and time again and again.
In my opinion, it's criminal what they charge, what they
do to people. And we don't even we don't even
work with any of those companies because they spend, they
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waste so much time and money and your money really
and uh, they're a headaches. So please, if you're buying
a used vehicle, do not buy an after market warranty.
So all right, again, taking your phone calls and Wenna
call five one three hundred. Let's go to the phones.
So we've got Jim. Hey, Jim, welcome to the car show.
I can help, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I finally got a hold of you. I'm going to
I'm want to talk to you about the oil uses
problem with high miless vehicles. Yea, my wife is a
twenty eleven Toyota row Out four, wonderful car. I've got
one hundred and eighty seven thousand miles on it, and
uh they recommend five W twenty oil. So that's and
(09:22):
I babies to death. It's like now and then it
starts to use it the court. My wife goes it
used to she she knows have to check your own
cars and all that, and and she says it's court long.
Again I look at that. Well, so I got about
a quart of five W thirty and put in it
and it slows it down and still use oil. So
(09:43):
I put a clod last TP and and then don't
use oil.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Let me.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
It don't. The rings are wore out.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
What what is it? What did you put in it? STP?
So you put so the STP? What what was it? Just?
Was it an additive or was it actual STP oil or.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's s TP. It's thickened oil.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
He used to be in a can who had a
zip top on it and that Now it's in a
plastic bottle. But anyway, it don't use oil anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Really really, huh, I mean, what what's the what what
is the oil that the STP? What's the what is
the discussy of it?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
It's real thick. If you you put a ticket screwdriver
sticking it there and you cannot hold it, cannot hold
that screw there with that stuff, that's slick.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Drag I drag raced all my life. And uh, this
one guy used to all the way around the country
and he gets four or five hundred thousand miles out
of it an engine and I and I.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Said, what do you do?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
He said, well, every time I changed the oil, he said,
I put two cans STP in it. Engine last for
a long time. And that's all I have to say.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Huh, well, I will look into that.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Okay, Well, pleasure, thank you. And I'll tell you what.
I administrated those after market warnings for years. They do
everything they can, everything they can. They'll say, well, I
didn't get a copy of this, not only have to
copy of that. And and because they didn't beat me,
you're gonna see some places won't even mess with them.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I don't. I don't mess with them.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
They're night they but they tell people the bumper to
bumper warn that's only a brand new car. But they
tell them that they think everything's free. I know, but
I'll tell you it was a pleasure speaking to you.
And I know, ye all right, thank you. But yeah,
we getting a little bit of feedback there.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
But yeah, so listen, I'm here to tell you, just
like Jim was saying, uh, two things and this is
a great and we talk about this all the time
on the show. Is listen. Oil consumption is a very
very common problem on most of these vehicles. And I
just had a customer not too long ago, and he goes, hey,
(12:10):
I'm going through a quart of oil every every thousand miles.
And we're like, yeah, well that's pretty common. And you
could just see the look on his face. He's like
he just wasn't having it, and he just was like,
there's no way this car's burning oil. I'm like, man,
we do a lot of it. That's that's the other
thing is is burning oil. And we talk about this
all the time on the show, but I wanted to
(12:30):
talk again, you know, I was watching that gentleman on
social media and I just you know, I wanted to
emphasize to you, especially with the costs of these new
these used vehicles, right, they're expensive. Right, it's the second
most expensive, you know, item you're going to have other
than your house. Right, you want to make sure you
take care of it. So if you're buying again, if
(12:53):
you were when you buy a house, what do we
do We get it inspected by somebody, Right, same thing.
If you're buying of use vehicle, you need to get
it inspected by a mechanic to protect you because again,
it can be It'll save you a lot of money
and a lot of headache if you get it inspected.
So a lot of times we don't talk about it,
and I kind of want to emphasize on that today
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is it's something that should be done. So all right,
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I was a bit busy the past two weeks, but
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call five one, three, seven fifty five hundred. Let's go
back to the phones. So we've got Opie, Hey, Obi, welcome,
welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I can help welcome back. And I'm going to tell
you right now, enjoy them young is while you can,
because they grew up too fast.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I know, man, I my daughter, I just I just
had I just.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Had a grand baby about six weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
So well, congratulations.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
My daughter gave me a grand baby, you know. But
you know, two weeks ago I told her how to drive.
So talking about them pre hit the pre purchase inspections.
My wife's oh seven f two fifty that I bought
eighteen years ago. Found a really good deal on it. It
was a truck out of Texas, low miles, but it
(15:06):
was all the way up by Cleveland. We drove up
there and I called a Ford dealer, took it over
to Ford dealer. They charged to be seventy five bucks.
They went over this thing and and now mind you,
it's a six to o, which you know six o's
were Notoris were popping the headstuds. So the shop that
had it they had to in order to change the
(15:29):
head studs, you have to pull the cab and the
doghouse off. They did the headstud bulletproofed. It did everything
that Ford should have done to begin with. Well, I
took it over to this Ford dealer and they looked
at it and they said the radiator's leaking. And they said,
that's a twenty five hundred dollars job to put a
radiator in this thing. And they said, oh, by the way,
(15:49):
the bearings and the turbot were on their way out.
Took it back to the place where we were buying
it from I and I gave them a report from
a Ford dealer and I said, YO, want to fix
this or or the you know, the deal's over with
And they said, well, you know what, we can't sell
this if we don't fix it. They fixed it. We
still got it for the same price and add down
the road we went.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, that, you know, And that's a great, great point.
And I tell my customers this all the time. You know,
when you're doing when you what how what you do
is when you're looking at a used vehicle and you
get it inspected in your mechanic or whoever you take
it to find something wrong with it, it gives you
the upper hand. It gives you the leverage. Right, so
(16:30):
if they find these problems, right, you can go back
there and say, hey, you go, can you fix these things?
I'll buy the truck. Can you fix these things? Or
can you take it off the price of the truck,
because I'm gonna have to turn around and spend you know,
another you know, five thousand or twenty five hundred dollars
like you said, another twenty five hundred dollars to fix
this radiator. Can you take the price? Can you take
it the price off the car or the truck, or
(16:51):
can you fix it?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
They not only replaced the radiator, they also replace the turbot, which.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
That that was probably another that was probably five five
grand there too.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah. Yeah, so so it worked. I mean, and it
wouldn't look it wasn't like I took a Cocooter's garage, right,
you know. I mean I took it to the Ford
dealer and they had that thing for three hours, and
like I said, they were charging seventy five bucks, and
they gave me a laundry list of stuff. You know,
there was a few connectors that weren't plugged in from
where they had the cab off of it and all
that stuff, which they fixed some of that and as
(17:24):
they found it, and then you know, they gave me
a laundry list and you know, and they said, well, yeah,
we'll fix it, we'll do the deal. Come back in
a week and pick it up. So my wife, my
wife and my mom went up there and picked it
up and brought it back.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I mean, it's it's a great example. And again, you
know a lot of people too think that, hey, if
you're buying a car from a used car lot or
a deal even a dealership you're buying a used car from,
then like, oh, it should be in good mechanical No,
these people are I'm sorry, but they're salesmen. They're just
their job is sella There.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Are three people. There are three people that aren't trust politicians, lawyers,
and car salesmen.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Not necessarily right right, right, yeah, and listen, you take
some other calls, man, I appreciate it. You have a
great weekend, you can. Uh. So Again, when you're buying
a vehicle used or from a dealership, it doesn't really
matter because a lot of people are well, I'm buying
(18:27):
it from a dealership, so it should be good. That
does not always mean the case. That's not always the case.
And again, I'm not picking on used car salesmen. I'm
not picking on used car lots. These people their job
is to sell cars. They're not mechanics, right, And again
I'm not picking I'm not saying that they are trying
to deceive you. I'm not saying that that that everybody's
just dishonest. I'm just saying, if you're buying something, especially
(18:51):
with the cost of today's cars, make sure you get
it inspected. And again, I'm not saying that they're trying
to pull the wool over your eyes and you're you know,
they're just trying to sell you, you know, you know,
a piece of crap. I'm just saying, get it inspected. Again,
their job, they're not mechanics. They don't look at these
cars when they're selling these cars. They don't pop the hood,
they don't get it up on the on the lift
(19:12):
and take a look at it. They don't know what
they're looking at. Right. Their job is just to sell
a car, it's not to find out if there's anything
wrong with it. So again it's imperative. It's important that
you get it inspected. And again, let me reiterate, do
not buy an aftermark a warranty period. So all right,
let's go back to the phones. We've got Jim. Hey, Jim,
welcome to the car show. How can I help.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Hi?
Speaker 6 (19:35):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I'm good? How are you good? Good?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (19:40):
I've got a twenty three four Runner that we bought recently,
and I'll just wondering as far as buying RUSS protection
from I turn it down as a dealership. But like
z Bart's been around here forever and so forth, I
know these things with these vehicles today are better protected,
(20:03):
you know, as they're built from rush and whatnot. But
what's your opinion on the z Barts of the world
out there in terms of added rust protection?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
You know what? Great question? Great question. So and listen,
I had this conversation with my brother earlier this week.
I said, you know, we were talking about a car
and my truck actually because my older truck and it's
just so rusted. I'm like, well, you know, we live
in the rust belt here, and yeah, everything that's out there,
you know with the Brian they put down the salt
(20:37):
and everything that we deal with, it's something that should
we can talk about. Now. I think with it being
a twenty three, how many miles are on it?
Speaker 6 (20:49):
We bought it with five thousand. I was a demo,
so I want to say it's got seven on it now?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Okay? All right? And does I think there's some factors
that we need to think about out here? What part
it says you're in alexandera, Kentucky? Yeah, uh huh. And
is this vehicle does it stay? Is it is it
gonna be outside its entire life? Or is it garage kept?
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Garage?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Okay? So I think if a vehicle, if a vehicle
is staying outside its whole life, I think it's something
that you should look into. If it's being garage kept,
I don't think that. And it's been Is this a
daily driver for you? Yes? Okay? The I see a
(21:36):
lot of cars that come in that have the Z
bar on it there and they're protected or whatnot. I think,
if you're gonna do it, I'm not against it. If
you're gonna do it, I would do it sooner than later.
Here's and here's why sometimes when they when once they
spray that stuff a lot of times too, it just
traps if there's already run. Like if you've got a
car that's ten years old and you want to do it,
(21:56):
I would not recommend it, because all you do is
just trap it. You just trap the water and you
trap it in there, and then, in my opinion, you're
not really blocking it, you're justscapsulating it. But then it
continues to continue to rus. So yeah, on the on
the four Runner, though, I would have to have to
(22:18):
look at it, because the older four Runners and the
older Tundras and the Kuna's man that I tell you
what I've seen, I can't tell you how many of
those cars I've come that have come into my shop
with the frames rotted out on it. I think Toyota,
oh yeah, it's a massive problem, massive problem. And yeah,
(22:40):
you know, and they did honor some of the frames
and replacing some of the frames, but not all of them.
I think that Toyota has gotten away from that. I
would have to because again with it being a twenty three,
i'd have to look at it.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I don't think it's a bad thing. But here here
hear me out on this too. When you when they
do that, you know they hit all those bull and
everything like that. So if there's in the fuel lines
and brake lines and everything like that, So going down
the road, if you have to remove those bolts, well
you can't get a you know, a socket on it
because the bolt's just covered in that that Z Bart stuff.
(23:14):
So yeah, you know, I'm not against it. I just
if you're gonna drive it and keep it in the garage,
if you're gonna drive it daily, keep it in the garage,
I don't. I wouldn't do it. I'd leave it the
way it was.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Uh, well, what's the difference of leaving it in the garage.
I mean we're still gonna drive it on the assalted
road and then pull it in the garage versus leaving
it in the driveway.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah. Correct, But here here because what happens is when
it sits outside. Okay, that moisture that's on the blacktop
or on the concrete, that moisture. Obviously, when it evaporates,
it it rises, right, so it goes up and it
just collects there. Right. So if it sits in the garage,
obviously the frame or whatnot's gonna drink and whatnot, and yes,
(24:01):
that water will evaporate, but it's not exposed to the
elements the way it is if it sits outside. You
know what I mean. I mean, I had correct and
I had a gentleman that had a ninety his unfortunately
his parents passed away. It was like a ninety seven
Cadillac and had like thirty thousand miles on it. Right,
this thing sat outside its whole life. It was a
(24:21):
ninety cent. This was I don't know, probably about five
years ago, right, so it was pretty old car. It's
twenty years old something like that. And you know, he's like,
I said, man, this thing is an absolute rusted mess.
You need to get rode it. And he's like, well,
it's only got thirty thousand miles on it. I'm like,
I understand that. But it sat outside on the black
top outside its entire life, and it's a rusted mess. Now,
(24:42):
if you've got a car that's sitting in a garage
for that amount of time, it's not getting that exposure
to the elements of the weather. So it's really that's
really key is keeping a car in a garage. That's
how you're gonna get the longevity out of a vehicle.
So I think think with the age of it, and
again I would have to see it to this. I
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don't know if Toyota has got away some of these,
I mean, they still have a frame. But I just
I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Let let's le let's put it this way. If I
buy a new vehicle, I'm not gonna do it. I
just I don't like covering all that stuff up because
if there's any type of repair that needs to be
done down the road, you've you've kind of just created
another problem. So yeah, so but I mean, you know,
(25:35):
again I'm not against it, but I just I'm not
going to do it to my I don't do it
to my vehicle.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
So do you have an opinion on you know, they've
got paint protection and different types of that. You know
where they put up.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
The ceramic coding. Yeah, I would do that, yeah, absolutely, Uh,
the ceramic coating I would do.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I mean even some of your kind of your local
car washers will offer some type of ceramica. It's not
really a ceramic coding like. You need to take it
to a professional and have it done. Now it's pretty pricey,
but yes, I mean as far as the paint goes,
I think, especially with the debris and rocks and salt
and everything like that. Yeah, protect the paint because it
(26:22):
can be. Bodywork is very expensive. But I would do
I would recommend that the z bart I just again,
I'm you know, I'm I don't have a problem with it,
but I just wouldn't do it to my own vehicle.
So okay, all right.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Well that helps a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
All right, thanks, take all right, you're welcome to take care.
So you know the thing is too and and I'm
going back to the whole get the car inspected. Right,
You look at these cars and the top, you know,
the rest of the whole body is oh man, this
car is great. The inside's perfect. Whatnot? The problem is
you get it up in the air. It's a whole
(26:58):
nother story. And I time and time again, I'll get
these cars that come into our shop to get inspected,
get them up in the air, and they do look great.
You get them up in the air and they're an
absolute rusted mess. And come to find out, if they
come from Michigan, you know, northern Ohio, New York, you
know up all those again, northern states, these things are
(27:21):
absolute rusted messes. They are messes, and it creates a
tremendous amount of problems. Right. So again, if you're going
back to buying and used vehicle and it is out
of state, you want the Southern States, you want Georgia, Florida, Texas,
somewhere like that, because it's not exposed to all the
elements of the salt and the brine and everything else
(27:43):
they put in the streets these nowadays up here in
the north. So it's important too. Just because the interior
is perfect and the exterior is perfect and it looks
great underneath tells a whole other story, right, So it's
something to think about when you're buying a used vehicle.
So I thought Jim's questions were so. And again, if
you're if your car is twenty years old and you're
(28:05):
not familiar with z bar z Bart kind of basically
capsulate capsulizes and and and supposed to prevent the rust
from getting any worse. Right, But What happens though, too,
is it also traps the moisture and the water in
there too if it's not done perfectly. Well. Okay, now,
I've seen some jobs that are done well. I've seen
(28:27):
some jobs that are done horribly. And you want to
make sure that if you do want to do it,
you make sure one the car is fairly new, and
then two you want to make sure that you find
a reputable guy that can do it. All right. Again,
I'm not too familiar with who's the best in in
the Cincinnati area, the Tristate area that can do it,
(28:49):
but it is an option for you. So and uh so, anyways,
all right, taking your phone calls and I recall five one, three, seven, nine,
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to the car show. How can I help?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Well? You and I spoke a couple of weeks ago
about my twenty twenty passbinder about the alternator. You remember
that because I called follow it up with your shop,
and I think you were correct. But however it went
out again and I had to have it toad. As
a matter of fact, Triple A said this is your
fifth toe. You're not getting any more toes. So I
did actually take it to the place I go out
(30:07):
here in East Kate, Ohio, and they said, now you
need to take it to the dealership, and it turns
out it was the alternator. Now, I having said that,
and if you remember, I told you, I had about
one thousand miles left before the warranty, the extended warranty
if purchased went out. Yeah, and believe it or not,
(30:28):
the car went out, it got fixed and the my
deductible was one hundred dollars and that's what I paid
for a fifteen hundred dollars alternator was one hundred dollars deductible.
So they act. I've had other extended warranties where they're idiots,
like you said, okay, but for whatever reason, and I'll
(30:48):
tell you the insurance company with a fidelity warranty. And
I purchased this car from over On loving the McGear
road hurts run a car when it went out of
business because they were giving away these cars.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
But it.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
It actually it actually worked. So I was like, I
was totally shocked too, but it actually worked. I only
paid one hundred dollars deductible to have the entire alternator replaced.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Well, I mean, that's that's great, and that's absolutely great.
And you know, and listen, you know, when I was
working with these companies, like I said, I don't do
I just don't do bus with them anymore because it's
an absolute headache. But what what they do typically is
they say, hey, listen, we don't we don't pay any diagnostic,
we don't pay any shop supply fees, we don't pay
(31:33):
any taxes, we don't pay what's your labor rate? And
you're like, you know labor rates one hundred bucks, Well,
we only pay fifty dollars an hour, right, And then
what happens is and then and then if it's a
big repair like yours, typically they'll sit there and go, well,
we need to send our own guy out there to
basically diagnose it and make sure that you know what
you're doing. So then you're waiting two or three days
(31:55):
for somebody to come out and verify that yes, the
car does need the old and then you know, all
in all, what I see primarily is is like, okay,
well we'll pay the job's fifteen hundred dollars, right, but
we'll pay seven hundred and fifty. And I just don't
I don't think that's I don't think that's right. I
mean in your case, I mean that's great. And who
(32:16):
who was the company through, Well.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
It's through Fidelity, and who I took it to was
my and I'll tell you dealership in Escape and it
was like okay, yeah, yeah, we've got disapproved. I was like, wow, okay,
But it was the cool thing is they hit my
car for a week, so they gave me a courtesy car.
So I had one of these little the kicks. I
(32:43):
don't know if we've got like nine million miles to
the gas, yeah, help me five bucks to fill it up.
So I was like, I like my Pathfinder.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Okay, I like a little bigger ves, a little.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
More metal around me. But I was I was shocked
that they did it, but it was and it was
I bott loved them in Deer from the Hurts rent
a car that used to be there. You know what
I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
About, right, mm hmm, yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah. So I was like, I mean they were giving
these cars away. And in twenty twenty, I got a
twenty twenty Passfinder for twenty three thousand dollars. And I
typically do not get extended warranties. But that little magnum
Ti voice, if you remember that going off, It was like,
you know, you can get in this car almost from nothing.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Why don't you just.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Go ahead and get it?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:32):
And like I said, like we talked a couple of
weeks ago. It was right before the warranty expired, and
I was like, I don't even know if they're going
to cover this, but they went ahead and covered it.
I was totally shocked.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah that's I mean, that's that's awesome. And like I said,
I have seen I have seen people where it does
work out for him, but nine out of ten times
it doesen't. But in your case, it worked out for you.
I'm I'm I'm I'm happy for you, man. So that's good.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
No, I agree. I agree with you because I've got
extensive word to you on other cars that I've owned
and they're like, God, no, this isn't covered, this isn't covered,
this isn't covered, this isn't cover. I'm like, for.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Real, Yeah, OK, yeah, I had I had a customer
one time that has a Chevy. I can't remember what
kind of car it was, but anyways, he needed a compressor, right,
and so if you read the fine detail says a
C compressor's covered, right, so call them up, call the
insurance company and they're like, yep, it's a C compressor.
It's bad yep. I was like, is it covered, Yep,
(34:30):
it's covered. I was like, all right. We're like, why,
what's wrong with the compressor? Said, well, it's it's I said,
it's leaking out of the front seal the A C
compressor and they're like, oh, that's not covered. I said,
the compressor's covered, yeah, but the front seal is not really,
so you gotta replace. I was like, well, I have
to replace the whole compressor to replace the seal. Yep,
front In the fine print it said the front seal
(34:52):
wasn't covered, but everything else was. And I'm like, man,
that's that. That ain't that's not right.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, that's petty. That's petty.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah. Yeah. So you know, so the customer still had
to pay twelve hundred dollars for a compressor because the
front seal was leaging. And again, listen, they've got lawyers,
they've got you know, they've got people writing, writing all
this stuff out, and they've got this stuff all figured out,
and I just feel that it's it's it's just very
deceiving to the general public. So that's kind of why
(35:20):
I got I get turned off, just turn off from it.
But again, I guess it can work in some people
if you do have one out there and you're like, oh, shoot,
I shouldn't have bought it. It can work out in
your benefit, especially in your case. It can work out.
But if you can avoid doing it, I would because
it's a whole bunch of record. And again in your case,
(35:40):
so if you would have brought it to my shop
and I had it for a week, I wouldn't have
the ability to give you a loaner car, right, so
you'd be without a car for an entire week, you
know what I mean. So that's the other side.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
We have three cars. We have three car we have
an extra car. As a matter of fact, my wife's
driving it now. But I'm sitting here looking at it.
It said paid one seventy dollars two cents, the labor
was nine to ninety nine point seventy five and the
part for a three seventy two point seven. So yeah, yeah,
(36:12):
I was like, and why I got you on the phone.
Let me ask you another question about brake fluids, because
they have you on telephone. I was told because when
they checked my car it was like, you got a
little coloring going on your brake fluid. I guess it's copper.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I think, is that what they call it?
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Copper? Or where where it's not your traditional red break fluid.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Well, the break fluid, the brake fluid should look the
brake fluid should look like yellowish, it should look like
apple juice.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Okay, okay, so it's actually a little.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
It's actually lighter than that. But when it starts getting
darker or starting to look like apple juice or darker colored,
it should be changed. So, I mean typically most manufacturers
recommend every two years that it should be that it
should be changed. And listen, Uh, we do it at
our shop.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
You know, break fluid absorbs moisture. Over time, you'll get
a fading pedal because that moisture. Obviously, you know again
it's are you gonna have some type of catastrophic failure
if you.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Don't do it?
Speaker 1 (37:19):
No, But if you want to up keep your car,
you want to keep it going, and you want to
have a more responsive brake pedal and prolong the hoses
and the calibers and that thing, you should you should
change it.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
But you know again, all my vehicles, all my vehicles
get oil changes with synthetic as five thousand miles or less.
That's I don't play around with vehicles. So and I
will caution I'm gonna throw this out there. I'm not
advocating or they're going against anybody, but I was told
(37:53):
that my bug. When they brought it in, they did
a service check off. Yeah, video and service it. But
then they the service guy was like, your your fog
lights don't work. I was like, really, when I brought
it in, they work, but I checked them the night
before last. I'm like, I said, you had my fog
lights turned off instead of turned on. So they wanted
(38:15):
to replace my fog light. Yeah, so buyer beware. I
guess I'm that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I want
to follow up with you. But it actually turned out
to be the alternator and you and I we've had
two discussions on this prior to this, so.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Well, I do remember. I do remember it so well.
Great man, that's awesome. I'm glad it worked out for you.
So I appreciate the phone call.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
All right, man, A great day.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
All right you too, Bye bye? All right again, taking
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We are running out of time, so I want to
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We've got Bill, Hey, Bill, welcome to the car show.
How I can help? Thank you for patiently waiting.
Speaker 8 (39:40):
No, you're welcome, Thanks for taking a call.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
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Speaker 8 (39:45):
I've picked up ninety four our Chevy truck. You know,
I'm going to try to restore it, and it's been
sitting with gas in it for our all many years,
and I just want to get your opinion the best
way to get the gas out. What it'd be the
take the fuel filter off and let it pump out,
or somebody suggested taking it off with the fuel injection,
(40:09):
you know, in the engine then and let the relay
pump it out, or I'm not sure which way here.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah, we said you wanted to restore it.
Speaker 8 (40:20):
Yeah, I mean it's a full size truck and I
don't see too many of those around anymore.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
No, no, you don't. How long How long has the
truck been?
Speaker 6 (40:26):
How long?
Speaker 1 (40:27):
How old do you think the gas is?
Speaker 8 (40:30):
I would say about four or five years, maybe a little.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah. Oh, there's nothing worse than the smell of stale gas.
Speaker 8 (40:38):
I discarded before I had a toad, and then once
I gave a gas that died and haven't been able
to start it since.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Man.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Well, typically I mean you could you could, you know,
take the line off at the one of the lines
off of the fuel filter and just pump it all out.
You could do that, I mean the way we would
do it at my shopping You may not be able
to do this, but what we would typically do is
and the easiest way to do it is. We would
take the bed off the frame and again, typically most
(41:14):
trucks there's three there's six bolts that hold there's three
on each side of that frame that that hold that
that bed in there. Typically that's what we would do
is we would just you know, and the beds are
really really light. I mean, it usually only takes about
two maybe three guys just take those six bolts out
(41:35):
and lift that bed off, that off that frame, and
then the tank is right there, and then it's got
a plastic most likely, well it's a ninety four, so
it's got probably a metal locker ring. You just take
a screwdriver or a chisel, and a screwdriver would be recommended.
You don't want any sparks, and you want to knock
that locking ring off and just pull that pump out,
(41:56):
suck it out. I mean, I think that would be
the best, but again that's a lot of work. I mean,
you could take it off at the fuel filter and
have it pump out, but the pump could be bad too,
where it's not gonna pump out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (42:11):
Yeah, then you got a point there. Would that be
better sitting and dropping the tank?
Speaker 1 (42:16):
No, I wouldn't no, because those straps, the typically the
straps are completely severely rusted. The bolts that hold the
straps in are severely rusted, and they typically will break
off and you can't get the straps off, and where
the bolts for the bed you can get out. I've
(42:36):
never ever ever had a problem getting the bed bolts out,
always have a problem getting the fuel tank straps. So
I would not drop the tank. It would be easier.
If you're gonna drop the tank, don't just take the
bed off. But if the pump is working, yeah, obviously
get a bucket or pail or something underneath it and
(42:59):
try to pump it out out. But man, back in
those days, I mean GM and four were notorious for
bad fuel pumps. But you could try it.
Speaker 6 (43:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
And then the other thing though, too, is if that
fuel filter itself, that line, the nut that screws into
that filter, if it's all rusted, right, it's all rusted,
it will come off. Then you can't get it off.
Then you you know, break the fuel line, and then
you're not gonna be able to get fuel lines for it,
and it could open up a can of worms. I
(43:30):
would probably just take the bed off make it a
Saturday project. Take the it's six bolts. I mean most
trucks have just three bolts on each side of the frame. Yes,
it would require a little bit more work, but you're
taking that bed off, you're gonna restore it anyways. Take
that bet off. The pump is right there. It would
make your life so much easier by going that route.
(43:52):
That's the way I would do it, And I'd siphon
it out that way.
Speaker 8 (43:55):
Oh kenead of for the pillar two as well, Like
that's those pump hand pumps that siphon it out.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
So most most I don't on a ninety four, I'm
not sure, but most vehicles they've got like a like
a ball that's in the filler neck, so if the
if the truck was to flip over, the gas doesn't
pour out of there, and so people can't siphon the
gas out of it. On a ninety four, it probably
you probably still can't siphon the gas out of it.
I'm not quite sure. I know on these newer cars,
(44:25):
most of the cars that are out there today, they've
got a ball that won't allow so if again, if
the car does tip, the gas doesn't pour out of it.
You know. Yeah, So I mean you can you can try.
There's a it's on Amazon. There's a pump. It's like
a manual pump. It's just got a little marble at
(44:46):
the end of it. But you would run it down
there and then you just shake it and it. Man,
the things you can get them for like they're cheap.
I don't want to say, like twenty six bucks. You
can try to siphon it out that way, but I
think the best way would be just take the bed
off the frame and and uh and and go that route.
(45:07):
So all right, it.
Speaker 8 (45:09):
Wouldn't have been good to change that filter anyway.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
And it would be absolutely it would be. But I
would I would recommend if you're gonna do it, you
make I would get some PB blast or some WT
forty and so get some some type of penetrating oil
and you soak that thing for a couple of days.
Soak it. Let it try to work its way in there,
so you don't, you know, get one of those lines
(45:34):
it's all rusted and and and create a headache for you.
So hey, listen, I gotta go. I really do appreciate it.
Thanks for holding all right, all right, take care, Brandy.
I apologize. Please call me back next Saturday. I'll be
back to answer all of your car questions. I really
do appreciate everybody calling. Everybody, have a great weekend. Uh
let's go Bangles right Hooday, we need to win tomorrow.
(45:55):
Uh last week wasn't too great but uh but uh anyways, Hey,
I'll be back next Saturday answer all your car questions.
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