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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On those to win.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
See the waters slapping out of temple, keeping reverend rhythm.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
Of the song on the readio.
Speaker 4 (00:08):
I gotta keep baby a song and.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Maybe want to row my windows down and close. Good afternoon,
and welcome to the car show. You're listening to the
car show. Of course. The number to call five one three.
He's seven four nine fifty five hundred.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
That number again, five to one three, seven four nine
fifty five hundred. I'm a bit in shambles, and I apologize.
I forgot my headphones. My son had a basketball game, uh,
and he at like ten forty five. He's he's like
always got to be on time for everything, which is fine.
I you know, I'm I don't know where he came
from because he's not my son, because I'm late for everything.
(00:55):
And ten forty five is like, Dad, how much long
are you gonna run? I'm like, buddy, you don't have
to be there till eleven thirty. Is like, I'll run
till eleven. I'll take a show. I will leave it
at eleven fifteen. And I scrambled and got to uh,
you know, I had to leave his basketball game a
little early, and I got in the truck and I said, oh, no,
I don't have my headphones.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
So you would think.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
That I would have it down at this point doing
the show so often, but no, I didn't. So and
as soon as I leave here, I go straight to
another basketball game, and so yeah, it's just it was
just a tight you know, we're fitting everything. We've got
two basketball games, one was at noon, the other one's
at two, and then you get the radio show in
the middle of it, and I just it slipped my mind.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So I apologize.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
But again, I'm taking your phone calls and then we'reer
to call five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred.
That number again, five one, three seven four nine fifty
five hundred. I am here, I am in the studio.
Would love to hear from me. So please, if you
have a car question, please give me a call. Something
that my son I would have been here a little
bit earlier, but due to uh, the what I want
(02:02):
to say, the lack of what people the drivers that
are out there driving around, you know, and it came
to my and I told my son, he's like, Dad,
you should talk about that on the radio show.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I said, you know what, I will, but I won't
get too in depth.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
But I said, you know, my wife is a real
tor and has to do several hours a year of
continuing education so she can sell a home, right, But
yet we take a you know, a test around the
block and try to park behind some cones and then
they give you They just let and then you never
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have to you know, never have to do anything else.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And I just feel like.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
You know, every five years when you have to renew
your you know, your license, you have to make sure
that your eyes are good. But nobody ever checks on
anybody else's uh, driving skills. And I'm like, like I
am going to talk about that is not that anybody
wants to do any more continuing education, but man, there
are some people, and there are some people that probably
(03:02):
shouldn't be driving. This guy that I was trying to
get through a light and he completely made a stop
before he made a right hand turn. I mean, and
this is at the Galbrith and Montgomery Road. It wasn't
like one of those one. It wasn't a little side street.
It was like he could have just let off the
gas and just kind of coping up. He made a
complete stop and then turn right, and then the light
turned red and then I missed the so I'm like, man,
(03:24):
we probably should do some type of continuing education.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
People need to, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Sharpen their skills when it comes to driving, because I know,
I know, there's a lot of road rage out there.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And I'm not a road ranger.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Sometimes I'm like, you know, what are you doing? I
always play and I and I and you know, my
father told me this and uh and and I'm going
to pass it on too, and most of you know this.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
But listen, you have to drive defensively. You have to
have to drive defensively. The roads are dangerous if you don't.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Right, you gotta make sure that you're focused on what
you're doing and focus on your surroundings. Right, put the
phone down, turn the radio down. Your responsibility is to
make sure that you get from point A to point
bay safely, especially if you have children.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
But we get so distracted by you know, by our phones.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
But no, I mean I've seen people, you know, I've
seen driving down the highway. I've seen people doing makeup.
I've seen people reading a book. I mean, listen, we
have to stay focused on the roads. It's important, and
especially after this week. I mean, you know, I know
this is this is a this is a car talk show.
(04:44):
But I want to give my condolences and prayers to
all the families with the the the aviation accident that
we had on I think it was Tuesday or Wednesday, right,
and then we just had one again last night. If
you're not if you're not aware, there was a medic
airplane in Philadelphia that went down and seven more lives
(05:04):
were lost.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And you know, again, you.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Know, I'm trying to tie it into the fact that, listen,
we need to We're behind a very heavy piece of
machinery and we have to make sure that we continue
to stay focused on what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Right.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
And again, these cars are not cheap. They're very expensive.
Interest rates are high. And then especially you know, when
you buy a new car and something happens to it, right,
you know, the value of that car depreciates, I mean
as soon as you drive it off the lot, right,
So you want to protect your investment. And I know
it's not necessarily an investment, right, but it's a tremendous
(05:40):
amount of money, right, and you want to make sure
that you get to keep it as long as you want,
right by taking care of it, making sure that you're alert.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Now, that's not always the case.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
If somebody else is not paying attention, not doing their job,
and somebody hits you, that's one thing. But you want
to make sure that when you get behind the wheel,
you do everything that you can to not distract yourself
and to keep your eyes on the road.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Right.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
And I see a lot of it at all the shops, right,
somebody had to you know, hit something, backs into something,
knocks a mirror off. Hey, I was pulling out of
the garage, and you know, just we get so wrapped
up in Russian, right, and you know, I was rushing
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I was safe about it, but I was Russian.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Trying to get to get back to the house to
get my headphones because I forgot them. But I just
thought it was a good topic and good thing to
think about. Is when we get behind the wheel, let's
everybody stay focused. Let's remember what we were taught, and
you know, just you know, be alert, be aware of
your surroundings and make sure that everybody around you is
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driving safely, you know what I mean? So all right, again,
the number to call five one three seven fifty five hundred.
That number again, five one three seven four nine fifty
five hundred and yes, I am here in studio again.
The first segment, I you know, I hope any listen.
Phone line are wide open. Okay, they're wide open. If
you've got a question, give me a call. The first
(07:04):
segment was kind of mostly commercials and that was just
simplarly because I was running late, not doing my not
doing my job, but it slipped my mind. So I
do apologize, but I am here. I am in studio,
and I would love to hear from you. So the
other things that we need to talk about as well,
and I'm starting to see a lot of it.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
We had a vehicle that just got picked up this week.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
And I want to put this into perspective when you're
purchasing a vehicle. So I had a young lady, extremely
great customers, first time they'd ever been to me, and
they had a Volvo and it had a panoramic sun roof. Okay,
now I talked about this months ago, but I just
want you, I just want to have a conversation about it.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
So when you're purchasing a newer.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Used vehicle, it is so nice to get in a
car and have that big, old panoramic sunroof. Right, it's great,
you know, you look up, you get to it's a
nice feature. Right, But in this particular situation, Volvo XC ninety,
nice car, but the material that they use, so all
sunroofs now.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Again, if you can avoid even buying a car with
a sunroof, excuse me, If you can avoid buying a
vehicle without a sunroof, you're you're you're gonna be in
great shape.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Okay, I understand that people like them great. I'm not
necessarily opposed to sunroofs. But you know, when you put
a hole in the in the roof of a vehicle,
you're opening up your options for water getting into the vehicle.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
But all sunroofs have drains.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Now, if you have a vehicle that has a sunroof,
there'll be two drains, one on the passenger side, one
on the driver's side. Now, what happens is you park
it under a tree or whatnot. Pine needles, dirt debre
eventually get into those tubes, clog them up, and then
the water gets back into the vehicle and we have
water problems. Right, And normally people are like, hey, look,
(09:01):
you know I'm getting water on the on the floor
on the passenger side or on the driver's side. That's
usually an indication that the sunroof drain is clogged. Now,
I've got a great guy that can take care of
that for you, Okay, great guy, And you can do
it yourself if you've got you know, a AC compressor
at home with some you know, just shoot some air
(09:22):
into those drain those drain tubes and you can probably
clean them out yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You can.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
That's not always the case. In this particular situation, young
lady had a panoramic sunroof, which means panoramic is just
from the front all the way to the rear, right,
So there's four sunroof drains, not two. Four, So there's
two that entering the passenger in front of the vehicle,
I'm sorry, the drivers in the passenger side of the front,
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and then the drivers and the passenger in the rear.
And in this case, the material that they use it
was a rubber line, rubber hose. The material that they used.
Over time, this material will harden and when it hardens,
it then shrinks. Okay, So what happened is that happened
it shrank, and that too was just all that rain
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was going, right, into the vehicle.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Okay. So, and her husband is a.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
War veteran and he had some you know, some he
you know, he he had some special needs. He could
drive and whatnot, but you know, there was we didn't
get into that, but he had a hearing issue, right,
so he couldn't hear the water slash around in the
car whatnot. So this car literally had about eight inches
(10:39):
of water in it by the time they had realized,
you know, what they were dealing with.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But it had been leaking for months, if not years.
And she took it to the dealership. The dealership gave
her an astronomical price.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
I want to say it was like twenty thousand dollars
to fix the damage. And that was just the tip
of the iceberg. She decided to not go with them
and bring it to us. And I have a great
technician at Auto four and he goes. I called her
and I said, look, I don't think it's a good
idea to fix this. I don't know what it's gonna
cost you. Okay, and she goes, Dan, nobody will help me.
(11:22):
I've taken you're the third shop I've brought it to.
Nobody will help me out. I owe thirty thousand dollars
on the car. I just want somebody to try to
fix my car. And my technician did a phenomenal job.
He goes, i'll fix it. I don't have a problem
with it at all. So it took six months to
fix this car, mainly because we didn't go the route
(11:46):
of traditionally just replacing everything. We found parts used, we
found parts on eBay, we found parts we had. He
had to fix hundreds of wires because of green corrosion
and whatnot. It was all done right, It was all
done professionally. But we saved her a tremendous amount of money,
to the tune of about eighty five hundred bucks. Now
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I know that's a lot, right, it's eighty five hundred bucks.
But she was looking at a minimum of twenty grand
at the dealer and now she has a great working
vehicle and against you thirty grand.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It was a it was a two hundred dollars paper weight.
If we didn't do something.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
And and I'll tell you what, you couldn't ask for
a better couple that was more understanding. And you know,
she would check in from you know, from month to month,
go Dan, what's going on? How we doing what Yeah,
So it was just it was it was a process.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
It was like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
It was difficult, but we took on the task and
there was an absolute great outcome. And so just the
moral of the story is, when you're purchasing a newer
used vehicle, again, the panoramic sun rouge, they're great. It's
nice to get in those things and see that, you know,
see the you know, see the sky or whatnot. But
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give that some thought when you're purchasing these vehicles. You know,
all those nice features are great, but they can cause
a lot of damage.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
And really, in theory, it totaled the car.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
And we were able to fix it and save this
lady from having to just take a thirty thousand dollars
blood bath, right because she owed thirty grand and was
never gonna you know, so just think about that. And
again here's the other thing that I want to talk
about as well, real quick, because we've got to break
you should be or either you should be doing it
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or taking it to your mechanics say hey, listen, can
you make sure that my panoramic or my sun roof
trains are free and clear, they're not clogged, and they're
draining like they're supposed to.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
We'll do it. We'll do it at any down of
entire store.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
So bring it in and say, hey, I want to
make sure my sun roof trains or my panoramic sunroof
trains are draining like they're supposed to, and it will
save you thousands just by cleaning them out. And if
you can avoid parking your vehicle underneath a tree, please
do because that's typically what causes the most of it
is just the soot, the pine needles, the leaves that
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all builds up in those drains, and this is what
causes a tremendous amount of problems.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
So think about.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
That when you're purchasing a newer used vehicle, or if
you've already purchased that vehicle and you have a panoramic
sunroof or you have a sun roof, take it to
your mechanic and have them cleaned out and so and
again if you do have a water leak, I also
have a great guy that will fix it for you
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at a really really reasonable price. He's great at what
he does. He's an expert. And if you need his number,
name and number I'll be more than happy to give
it to you, So all right again, the number to
call five one three seven that number gain five one
three seven nine fifty five hundred. Coming up, we have
John and al One. You're listening to the car show
on fifty five KRC, the talk station.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
The best way to wake up in the morning a
hot cup of coffee. Add Brian Thomas Monday morning at
five on fifty five KRC, the Talk Station.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Taking your car questions, and the number to call five
to one three seven nine fifty five hundred. That number
one more time, five one three seven fifty.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Five hundred Again. I'm Dane Donovan from Donovan's Auto entire Center.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
I want to get to the callers here in just
one second, but I want I wanted everybody to know,
uh that we're going to be doing a commercial later
on today. But I want everybody to know that Donovan's
Auto entire Center was voted best in Cincinnati for twenty
twenty four, so uh, great, great accomplishment. I want to
thank all of all of our customers, all of those
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who replied and voted for us.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I want to thank all of the.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
All of our our members and all of our team
members at Donovan's Auto and Tire Center, you know the
pleasant Ridge Blue Ash, the oil chain shop and our
new auto foreign shop. I want to thank all of
my employees and uh and again, it wouldn't happen if
it wasn't for the customers and for those out there
who were out voting for us.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And we won you Best of Cincinnati.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
We've won it a couple of times in the past,
and uh yeah, so we were.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
We're really psyched and really proud of it. So again,
couldn't do it without the.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Awesome the best customers in the Tri state area. So
thank you so much for that. So all right again,
taking your phone calls and number to call five, one,
three seven, let's go to the phones.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
We've got John. Hey, John, welcome to the car show.
How can I help?
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah? I got a question on them on my car.
I had changed the camp.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Censor, camshaft positioning sensors.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, yeah, I got a code and I went the
autis and they read the code. I can't remember what
the code was off my head, but.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Was it like a piez or zero one three or
piez or zero one four.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
It sounds about right. Yeah, And I replaced replaced one
of them. When I replaced it, I it seemed like
it went away, and the next day when I really
drove it, it came back. So I replaced the second
cam sensor too, and it's still it's still not going away,
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So I guess I'm And I did clear the air
air out, so I did do that too, so on
top of it, and it still came back. So now
I'm trying to figure out what the next step is.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Okay, So.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Are we talking about the you're saying cam sensor, but
are we talking about the technical terms staff vvtinoids?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Are we talking about the ones that bolt right into
the valve cover? Is there like, was there an intake.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
And an exhaust sylinoid that they bolt right into the
top of the the valve cover.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
They're pretty easy to do there, right on top, Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Were they kind of like, I don't know, probably about
six inches long and one one little ten millimeter bolt
that was that was holding them in?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Okay, yep.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
So that is very very common on those vehicles and
on that engine. So here's here's before you before you
do anything else. The syllinoids that you were replaced, did
you buy them from that store or did you buy
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like ac Delco ones.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I did not buy a C del kill ones.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Did you check your oil level to make sure that
the oil was at the proper level?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I did not do that, but I just probably previously
changed my oil, probably a week before that before this
started happening, I think.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
So typically on those engines, they do burn oil, all right,
So a lot of times if the oil is very
dirty or low, it can set those codes. Okay, Because
those sylenoids, I know you call them CAM sensors, but
they call them variable valve timing sylinoids. Okay, they advance
and retard the timing of the engines, so they're controlled
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by oil pressure. So if the oil is really dirty
or low, it could potentially set those codes. Okay, So
next step, let's make sure are if the oil is
full at the right level. Would my suggestion before you
go any further would be to and I know you've
already spent the money on the sylenoids on the aftermarket once,
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I would only recommend using ac Delco because the the quality,
that's a very very intricate part of the engine, and
you want to.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Make sure that you're putting AC Duco.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
That would be because I won't put them on anything
else other than AC Dulko. That's the original equipment. It's
that's what Chevy puts in there. Just to rule that out,
because it's easy to do, you can do it now.
I know that you unfortunately already spent spent the money
on the aftermarket ones.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
But to rule this out, let's put the factory ones in. Okay,
if you're still.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Getting the code, the most likely the engine is out
of time and you need a timing chain, which is.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
For her early days. I because I had replaced the
engine in this car.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
How long ago?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Uh? Five years ago?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Okay? How many miles do you think you have them?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I only got about forty five to fifty thousand miles
on it.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Do you have any record or knowledge of the car
every using oil or burning it or being low on
oil at any point?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
So what we've always found is.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
These vehicles will burn oil, and a lot of people
associate it with oh, seeing white smoke or seeing you know,
but nobody really knows.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
And and and again.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
You know, when you go to get your oil change,
they don't check your level before they change your oil.
They just change your oil and boom you're out the door.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You don't know.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
You could literally pull in and get your oil change
the next time, and you can only have a quarter
of oil in there. Everybody goes, oh, I've got an
oil light, it'll pop on. No, they don't pop on.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I mean I've.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Literally had a car come in with I just had
a car on the other day, half a quarter of oil,
no oil light, half a quarter of oil.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
The thing took five courts. It only had a half core,
no oil light.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
So what I would recommend too is when you get
your oil chain, I would recommend this not just to you,
but to anybody out there that's listening.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
When you get your.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Check it, check it.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Yeah, but I'm for those who don't check your oil
or I'm sorry for those of you who don't change
your oil. Every time you get your oil changed, I
will tell you, tell your mechanic or tell whoever changing it. Hey,
please check the level before I get my oil change.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Please check it just to find out, okay, because.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Every single day I have a car that comes into
all of my shops that the reason that it's there
is because it doesn't mean oil in it.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
So just be aware of that.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
But what happens is the reason why I say it
might need chains, is what happens is these cars get
low on oil, the chains get hot. When they get hot,
they stretch, and when they get stretched, then the cars
out of time and can send that faulty code.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
So I'm not saying you need change. But if you've
checked your oil, it's full, it looks clean, you put
the ac Delco syllinoids in it, and you're still getting
the codes, then the only other thing it can be
is the chain is stretched and it's out of time.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Okay, Yeah, it does feel like it's not not time's
right to me. What's running with these selenois. So if
the son noise fixed is that, then then I'm probably good.
But if it doesn't, then it's the timing chain.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
You think, Yes, sir, we put chains on cars. I
got it.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
I've got my technician at auto for and he's putting
chains in a BMW. It's ten thousand dollars to replace
the chains and everything to fix the chains on a BMW.
So it's a very very common problem. The chain when
it came out, man, it was great.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You know. It's like, hey, we don't have to put
timing belts on these cars anymore.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
It's gonna save you eleven hundred dollars every one hundred
thousand miles to put a belt on. And I'm telling
you what I would take eleven thousand dollars replace timing
belt ever one hundred thousand miles, then putting a ten
thousand dollars chain in a BMW.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I mean, but so it's impaired, so check the oil,
make sure it's clean.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
If that's the case, I would do AC delco And
you can buy them. You know, you can buy them cheap.
I mean, but ac Delco is what you want to do.
You put them in. If you still have the problem,
it's out of time, it needs a chain, you can
all right, okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I do appreciate your help.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
You're absolutely take care. That's the thing. And it's it's
frustrating me. And sometimes you can hear me. You kind
of get amped up and I'll get on a tangent
and just go off. But listen, I'm telling you. These
cars are great. They're sophisticated, they run great. You know,
they last a lot longer if you maintain them. Now,
(24:34):
this isn't like you know seventy. You know this isn't
nineteen seventy where you know you got one hundred thousand
miles out of car and you got rid of it's
wore out. These things can go two, three, four hundred
thousand miles if they're maintained.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
But you have to be aware of what's out there.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
And that's why it's imperative that you listen to me
or any other car enthusiasts. These cars burn oil. They
just about all of them do. Okay, it's the way
they're designed because of government regulations and so on and
so forth. Right, So, uh, it's something that is so simple.
(25:10):
I mean, if you're if you if you went to
your doctor, okay, and you said, hey, doc, I want
to live to one hundred and twenty years old. Right,
what's the single best thing I could do to to
live to one hundred and twenty years old? And your
doctor said, drink a glass of water every day. You'll
live to one hundred and twenty. What would don't you
think everybody be doing it?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Right? It's the simple. And again, changing your oil on
your car is the simplest best.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Thing that you can do to keep it on the road. Okay,
and I'm it's it's like drinking a glass of water.
You want to you want to live a long time,
and your doctor says, drink a glass of water. Most
people would take that advice. One glass of water. I
could do that right. One oil change every five thousand miles,
I can do that now. I understand that. Uh it's
(25:58):
not cheap now days, but it's the best thing to
do to protect your investment. It's the best thing that
you can do. And we've talked about this on the show,
and I sometimes, you know, I hate to be redundant,
but sometimes people might be tuning in now and haven't
been tuning in the last time I said this. But listen,
all of the vehicles that are made today have synthetic
(26:20):
oil in them. Okay, when I started doing this ten
years ago, I'm sorry. When I started doing this twenty
five years ago, there was you know, just conventional oil.
And then when I started doing radio, and I haven't
been doing this show for ten years, but when I
started doing radio ten years ago, I had another radio
show on another station. But when I started doing this,
(26:42):
it was three thousand dollars conventional and five thousand on
synthetic oil changes. That's when you change them. Now, fast
forward to twenty twenty five. All of these cars that
are manufacturer today are full synthetic oil. Okay, and I'm
telling you I will. I will try to beat this
in everybody's brains as best as I can. Five thousand miles,
(27:06):
you change your oil period. I don't care what the
car tells you. I don't care what the car salesman
tells you five thousand miles. It's so simple. I had
an argument with I shouldn't say argument. I had a
gentleman says, hey, I'm bringing my car in for a
ninety five thousand mile service. When did you change one
oil last? I said, we changed it at ninety He goes,
all right, well, I don't want an oil change then,
(27:27):
because my car says that I need to do it
every ten thousand. And I wanted to just beat my
head against the wall, because.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
You know these.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Cars burn oil. Your car's not gonna tell you when
your car's low on oil. It will not okay, it's
not gonna tell you. You're not gonna know that it's
burn and oil because it's not gonna be smoking. You're
gonna bring the car to me or any other repair
shop with no oil in it, and then potentially, like
I said, eventually it's gonna need change.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
And I'm I'm doing.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
We've got a BMW at the shop right now, changed
the guides everything, and they were broken.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
And it's ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Had the gentleman been checking his oil or at least
changing it regularly, one hundred percent, I can't say one
hundred but ninety nine percent sure that this car would
not have the problems that it's having now.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Things do break, things do happen.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
But I'm telling you, the oil is the most important
thing that you can do. It's the lifeblood of your vehicle,
and it's so important, and it's so cheap to do.
And again, I don't it. You know, drives me nuts
when I hear well my car says ten thousand, Well,
the guy I bought it from. My salesman says every
ten or the owner's man, I you know again, I
(28:42):
talked about this last week. I had the opportunity to
buy a new vehicle myself, and my vehicle says that
I should change the oil every seventy five hundred to
ten thousand miles says that says that in the owner's manual.
Guess what Dane's doing. He's changed it. He's changed in
at every five thousand miles. And I've already changed it
five thousand miles. I changed it.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
I have a little Honda Civic that I've had for
I've had it for twenty two years. It's twenty five
years old. I've had it twenty two years. I've changed
oil in that car maybe fifteen hundred miles. Now that's
a little excessive. I'm a little bit of a weirdo
it comes to change in oil. But I mean the
car is twenty five years old, has one hundred and
forty three thousand miles on it, and you know, knock
(29:26):
on wood, it's running like a top. It's a great vehicle.
And uh so, all right again, taking your phone calls
and number to call five one three seven nine fifty
five hundred.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Coming up, We've got Alan.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
You can listening to the car show on fifty five
krs deep talk station. Taking your car questions and number
to call five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Real quick.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
My my mother in law's listened and she just called
me and said hey, with a newly purchased vehicle, would
it make sense to change oil before five thousand mile?
You can, and I thought about that, but h I
spoke with a really really great mechanic of ours. And
when you purchase a new vehicle, there are certain there
(30:13):
are certain uh you know, because everybody talks about engine
break in and hey, we you know, I want to
change a oil a lot of fousand to break it
in and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
But they the oil that they put in there has.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Certain preserved not preserved is, but have certain detergents and
things like that to help break in that engine. So no,
I think with a new car, no, you don't have
to change it earlier. I think you're still going to
be you'll be fine. But again, if you change it
a little, if you changed it at four thousand or
forty five hundred or something like that, it's fine. And
(30:43):
you always can change your oil early. I mean, in
my opinion it's better anyways. But you can never change
it too early. But please don't follow the guidelines of
what the autumn. And I'm not a conspiracy or whatnot,
but let's be honest here. Going back, if you remember
(31:05):
two thousand and eight, right, we had the financial crisis.
Right up until two thousand and eight, the vehicles were
recommended to change oil at three thousand on conventional, five
thousand on synthetic.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Okay, two thousand and eight happens, we get.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
The financial collapse, and then dealerships are scrambling to try
to sell cars.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
So what do they do. They offer free oil changes.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Right, Hey, buy a car from us, We'll give you
lifetime oil changes.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Some of you. You may remember this.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
I remember it because I'm like, man, they're gonna get
free oil changes, right. I was concerned about it, and
lo and behold, guess what. Immediately overnight it's oh, no,
you don't change your oil every five thousands, every ten thousand.
And I've never had anybody call me and debunk what
I'm saying here, but it's you know, it's like.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Wow, that was really odd timing.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
It's kind of weird that we were doing three and
five and then we go to synthetic and we do
financial class we're giving out free oil changes, and now
it's like, no, it's every ten thousand. I literally had
customers that would buy a Toyota and they would take
it in every five thousand. They would take it in
at five thousand miles, they're like, oh, you're not due
form old change. You know, we're not going to pay
for it, so you need to bring it back in
(32:17):
another five thousand. And I'm not picking on Toyota, but
I had example of that, and so every five thousand
stick to that, you'll be fine. So all right, let's
go to the phones. We've got Alan. Hey, Alan, thanks
for holding on. I really do appreciate it. How can
I help?
Speaker 6 (32:35):
I got No.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Five f one fifty and driving it down the road,
they'll do fine. But the relative throttle position I got
monitoring will go from like twenty percent and drop off.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
To nothing and then right back up and drive fine.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
And I'll replace the fuel pump, fuel pump, driver, throttle body.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
And it's still doing it.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
The relative throttle position will go from you know, about
twenty two at cruising in high gear, Uh, drop off
to nothing, Carl fall in his face, booms, pop right
back up.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
So you said you replaced the fuel pump, the throttle body,
and what else.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
This fuel pump, driver and the fuel filter.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
All right, it says here five four one fifty, yes,
all right?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
And then are you using a scan tool to watch this?
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Yeah, it's got a live data stream. So I'm watching
as I go down the road, and the.
Speaker 7 (33:36):
Relative throttle position will go from you know, twenty two
ish and drop off to nothing and go back.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
And I'll replaced the pedal to it. So the pedal
will uh, it's got three sensors on it on the
reset everything, and uh, you know it's it's doing normal.
But the second code it's loading, so you know, it'll
(34:10):
be like twenty two percent. Let's see here.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
So app D is eighteen percent, is twenty nine percent,
and then apps is eighteen percent, which seems pretty normal
because it's always doing that. But the relative throttle position
will just drop right off. No, I'll watch it just
dropping off.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
You got any ideas, oh man?
Speaker 5 (34:33):
I mean, I mean you could be dealing with like
a like a PCM issue or at home. Man, dude,
you oh man, there's a million different ways we can
go on that. I've never seen that issue. I don't
(34:57):
have any ideas off the top of my head. Is
there any codes or anything in the computer as far
as I know you're watching this. You know you're watching
the live data, But are there any codes that pop
up in the computer?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
No?
Speaker 6 (35:12):
Code?
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Okay, oh man, that's uh. Are you do you live
close by?
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Is there any chance you can maybe bring it by
let me take a look at it for you?
Speaker 6 (35:23):
Yeah, I mean Alexander.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Okay, well man, I'm sorry, run out of time, but
if you want to call me, go to donavitire dot
com go to find the auto foreign location call me
on Monday.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I'd be more than happy.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
To Uh, maybe we'll let's bring it by, let's take
a look at it.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I'd love to help you out. Brother.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
So man, sorry I was late. I apologize. I'll be
back next Saturday. Answer all of your car questions. You're
listening to the Car Show on fifty five krc D
talk station.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
Opportunity to Investigates
On those to win.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
See the waters slapping out of temple, keeping reverend rhythm.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
Of the song on the readio.
Speaker 4 (00:08):
I gotta keep baby a song and.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Maybe want to row my windows down and close. Good afternoon,
and welcome to the car show. You're listening to the
car show. Of course. The number to call five one three.
He's seven four nine fifty five hundred.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
That number again, five to one three, seven four nine
fifty five hundred. I'm a bit in shambles, and I apologize.
I forgot my headphones. My son had a basketball game, uh,
and he at like ten forty five. He's he's like
always got to be on time for everything, which is fine.
I you know, I'm I don't know where he came
from because he's not my son, because I'm late for everything.
(00:55):
And ten forty five is like, Dad, how much long
are you gonna run? I'm like, buddy, you don't have
to be there till eleven thirty. Is like, I'll run
till eleven. I'll take a show. I will leave it
at eleven fifteen. And I scrambled and got to uh,
you know, I had to leave his basketball game a
little early, and I got in the truck and I said, oh, no,
I don't have my headphones.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
So you would think.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
That I would have it down at this point doing
the show so often, but no, I didn't. So and
as soon as I leave here, I go straight to
another basketball game, and so yeah, it's just it was
just a tight you know, we're fitting everything. We've got
two basketball games, one was at noon, the other one's
at two, and then you get the radio show in
the middle of it, and I just it slipped my mind.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So I apologize.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
But again, I'm taking your phone calls and then we'reer
to call five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred.
That number again, five one, three seven four nine fifty
five hundred. I am here, I am in the studio.
Would love to hear from me. So please, if you
have a car question, please give me a call. Something
that my son I would have been here a little
bit earlier, but due to uh, the what I want
(02:02):
to say, the lack of what people the drivers that
are out there driving around, you know, and it came
to my and I told my son, he's like, Dad,
you should talk about that on the radio show.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I said, you know what, I will, but I won't
get too in depth.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
But I said, you know, my wife is a real
tor and has to do several hours a year of
continuing education so she can sell a home, right, But
yet we take a you know, a test around the
block and try to park behind some cones and then
they give you They just let and then you never
(02:36):
have to you know, never have to do anything else.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And I just feel like.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
You know, every five years when you have to renew
your you know, your license, you have to make sure
that your eyes are good. But nobody ever checks on
anybody else's uh, driving skills. And I'm like, like I
am going to talk about that is not that anybody
wants to do any more continuing education, but man, there
are some people, and there are some people that probably
(03:02):
shouldn't be driving. This guy that I was trying to
get through a light and he completely made a stop
before he made a right hand turn. I mean, and
this is at the Galbrith and Montgomery Road. It wasn't
like one of those one. It wasn't a little side street.
It was like he could have just let off the
gas and just kind of coping up. He made a
complete stop and then turn right, and then the light
turned red and then I missed the so I'm like, man,
(03:24):
we probably should do some type of continuing education.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
People need to, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Sharpen their skills when it comes to driving, because I know,
I know, there's a lot of road rage out there.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And I'm not a road ranger.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Sometimes I'm like, you know, what are you doing? I
always play and I and I and you know, my
father told me this and uh and and I'm going
to pass it on too, and most of you know this.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
But listen, you have to drive defensively. You have to
have to drive defensively. The roads are dangerous if you don't.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Right, you gotta make sure that you're focused on what
you're doing and focus on your surroundings. Right, put the
phone down, turn the radio down. Your responsibility is to
make sure that you get from point A to point
bay safely, especially if you have children.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
But we get so distracted by you know, by our phones.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
But no, I mean I've seen people, you know, I've
seen driving down the highway. I've seen people doing makeup.
I've seen people reading a book. I mean, listen, we
have to stay focused on the roads. It's important, and
especially after this week. I mean, you know, I know
this is this is a this is a car talk show.
(04:44):
But I want to give my condolences and prayers to
all the families with the the the aviation accident that
we had on I think it was Tuesday or Wednesday, right,
and then we just had one again last night. If
you're not if you're not aware, there was a medic
airplane in Philadelphia that went down and seven more lives
(05:04):
were lost.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And you know, again, you.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Know, I'm trying to tie it into the fact that, listen,
we need to We're behind a very heavy piece of
machinery and we have to make sure that we continue
to stay focused on what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Right.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
And again, these cars are not cheap. They're very expensive.
Interest rates are high. And then especially you know, when
you buy a new car and something happens to it, right,
you know, the value of that car depreciates, I mean
as soon as you drive it off the lot, right,
So you want to protect your investment. And I know
it's not necessarily an investment, right, but it's a tremendous
(05:40):
amount of money, right, and you want to make sure
that you get to keep it as long as you want,
right by taking care of it, making sure that you're alert.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Now, that's not always the case.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
If somebody else is not paying attention, not doing their job,
and somebody hits you, that's one thing. But you want
to make sure that when you get behind the wheel,
you do everything that you can to not distract yourself
and to keep your eyes on the road.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Right.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
And I see a lot of it at all the shops, right,
somebody had to you know, hit something, backs into something,
knocks a mirror off. Hey, I was pulling out of
the garage, and you know, just we get so wrapped
up in Russian, right, and you know, I was rushing
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I was safe about it, but I was Russian.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Trying to get to get back to the house to
get my headphones because I forgot them. But I just
thought it was a good topic and good thing to
think about. Is when we get behind the wheel, let's
everybody stay focused. Let's remember what we were taught, and
you know, just you know, be alert, be aware of
your surroundings and make sure that everybody around you is
(06:42):
driving safely, you know what I mean? So all right, again,
the number to call five one three seven fifty five hundred.
That number again, five one three seven four nine fifty
five hundred and yes, I am here in studio again.
The first segment, I you know, I hope any listen.
Phone line are wide open. Okay, they're wide open. If
you've got a question, give me a call. The first
(07:04):
segment was kind of mostly commercials and that was just
simplarly because I was running late, not doing my not
doing my job, but it slipped my mind. So I
do apologize, but I am here. I am in studio,
and I would love to hear from you. So the
other things that we need to talk about as well,
and I'm starting to see a lot of it.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
We had a vehicle that just got picked up this week.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
And I want to put this into perspective when you're
purchasing a vehicle. So I had a young lady, extremely
great customers, first time they'd ever been to me, and
they had a Volvo and it had a panoramic sun roof. Okay,
now I talked about this months ago, but I just
want you, I just want to have a conversation about it.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
So when you're purchasing a newer.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Used vehicle, it is so nice to get in a
car and have that big, old panoramic sunroof. Right, it's great,
you know, you look up, you get to it's a
nice feature. Right, But in this particular situation, Volvo XC ninety,
nice car, but the material that they use, so all
sunroofs now.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Again, if you can avoid even buying a car with
a sunroof, excuse me, If you can avoid buying a
vehicle without a sunroof, you're you're you're gonna be in
great shape.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Okay, I understand that people like them great. I'm not
necessarily opposed to sunroofs. But you know, when you put
a hole in the in the roof of a vehicle,
you're opening up your options for water getting into the vehicle.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
But all sunroofs have drains.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Now, if you have a vehicle that has a sunroof,
there'll be two drains, one on the passenger side, one
on the driver's side. Now, what happens is you park
it under a tree or whatnot. Pine needles, dirt debre
eventually get into those tubes, clog them up, and then
the water gets back into the vehicle and we have
water problems. Right, And normally people are like, hey, look,
(09:01):
you know I'm getting water on the on the floor
on the passenger side or on the driver's side. That's
usually an indication that the sunroof drain is clogged. Now,
I've got a great guy that can take care of
that for you, Okay, great guy, And you can do
it yourself if you've got you know, a AC compressor
at home with some you know, just shoot some air
(09:22):
into those drain those drain tubes and you can probably
clean them out yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You can.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
That's not always the case. In this particular situation, young
lady had a panoramic sunroof, which means panoramic is just
from the front all the way to the rear, right,
So there's four sunroof drains, not two. Four, So there's
two that entering the passenger in front of the vehicle,
I'm sorry, the drivers in the passenger side of the front,
(09:47):
and then the drivers and the passenger in the rear.
And in this case, the material that they use it
was a rubber line, rubber hose. The material that they used.
Over time, this material will harden and when it hardens,
it then shrinks. Okay, So what happened is that happened
it shrank, and that too was just all that rain
(10:10):
was going, right, into the vehicle.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Okay. So, and her husband is a.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
War veteran and he had some you know, some he
you know, he he had some special needs. He could
drive and whatnot, but you know, there was we didn't
get into that, but he had a hearing issue, right,
so he couldn't hear the water slash around in the
car whatnot. So this car literally had about eight inches
(10:39):
of water in it by the time they had realized,
you know, what they were dealing with.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But it had been leaking for months, if not years.
And she took it to the dealership. The dealership gave
her an astronomical price.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
I want to say it was like twenty thousand dollars
to fix the damage. And that was just the tip
of the iceberg. She decided to not go with them
and bring it to us. And I have a great
technician at Auto four and he goes. I called her
and I said, look, I don't think it's a good
idea to fix this. I don't know what it's gonna
cost you. Okay, and she goes, Dan, nobody will help me.
(11:22):
I've taken you're the third shop I've brought it to.
Nobody will help me out. I owe thirty thousand dollars
on the car. I just want somebody to try to
fix my car. And my technician did a phenomenal job.
He goes, i'll fix it. I don't have a problem
with it at all. So it took six months to
fix this car, mainly because we didn't go the route
(11:46):
of traditionally just replacing everything. We found parts used, we
found parts on eBay, we found parts we had. He
had to fix hundreds of wires because of green corrosion
and whatnot. It was all done right, It was all
done professionally. But we saved her a tremendous amount of money,
to the tune of about eighty five hundred bucks. Now
(12:07):
I know that's a lot, right, it's eighty five hundred bucks.
But she was looking at a minimum of twenty grand
at the dealer and now she has a great working
vehicle and against you thirty grand.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It was a it was a two hundred dollars paper weight.
If we didn't do something.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
And and I'll tell you what, you couldn't ask for
a better couple that was more understanding. And you know,
she would check in from you know, from month to month,
go Dan, what's going on? How we doing what Yeah,
So it was just it was it was a process.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
It was like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
It was difficult, but we took on the task and
there was an absolute great outcome. And so just the
moral of the story is, when you're purchasing a newer
used vehicle, again, the panoramic sun rouge, they're great. It's
nice to get in those things and see that, you know,
see the you know, see the sky or whatnot. But
(13:02):
give that some thought when you're purchasing these vehicles. You know,
all those nice features are great, but they can cause
a lot of damage.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
And really, in theory, it totaled the car.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
And we were able to fix it and save this
lady from having to just take a thirty thousand dollars
blood bath, right because she owed thirty grand and was
never gonna you know, so just think about that. And
again here's the other thing that I want to talk
about as well, real quick, because we've got to break
you should be or either you should be doing it
(13:37):
or taking it to your mechanics say hey, listen, can
you make sure that my panoramic or my sun roof
trains are free and clear, they're not clogged, and they're
draining like they're supposed to.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
We'll do it. We'll do it at any down of
entire store.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
So bring it in and say, hey, I want to
make sure my sun roof trains or my panoramic sunroof
trains are draining like they're supposed to, and it will
save you thousands just by cleaning them out. And if
you can avoid parking your vehicle underneath a tree, please
do because that's typically what causes the most of it
is just the soot, the pine needles, the leaves that
(14:15):
all builds up in those drains, and this is what
causes a tremendous amount of problems.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
So think about.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
That when you're purchasing a newer used vehicle, or if
you've already purchased that vehicle and you have a panoramic
sunroof or you have a sun roof, take it to
your mechanic and have them cleaned out and so and
again if you do have a water leak, I also
have a great guy that will fix it for you
(14:42):
at a really really reasonable price. He's great at what
he does. He's an expert. And if you need his number,
name and number I'll be more than happy to give
it to you, So all right again, the number to
call five one three seven that number gain five one
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Speaker 2 (15:23):
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We've won it a couple of times in the past,
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Awesome the best customers in the Tri state area. So
thank you so much for that. So all right again,
taking your phone calls and number to call five, one,
three seven, let's go to the phones.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
We've got John. Hey, John, welcome to the car show.
How can I help?
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah? I got a question on them on my car.
I had changed the camp.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Censor, camshaft positioning sensors.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, yeah, I got a code and I went the
autis and they read the code. I can't remember what
the code was off my head, but.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Was it like a piez or zero one three or
piez or zero one four.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
It sounds about right. Yeah, And I replaced replaced one
of them. When I replaced it, I it seemed like
it went away, and the next day when I really
drove it, it came back. So I replaced the second
cam sensor too, and it's still it's still not going away,
(17:38):
So I guess I'm And I did clear the air
air out, so I did do that too, so on
top of it, and it still came back. So now
I'm trying to figure out what the next step is.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Okay, So.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Are we talking about the you're saying cam sensor, but
are we talking about the technical terms staff vvtinoids?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Are we talking about the ones that bolt right into
the valve cover? Is there like, was there an intake.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
And an exhaust sylinoid that they bolt right into the
top of the the valve cover.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
They're pretty easy to do there, right on top, Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Were they kind of like, I don't know, probably about
six inches long and one one little ten millimeter bolt
that was that was holding them in?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Okay, yep.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
So that is very very common on those vehicles and
on that engine. So here's here's before you before you
do anything else. The syllinoids that you were replaced, did
you buy them from that store or did you buy
(18:48):
like ac Delco ones.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I did not buy a C del kill ones.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Did you check your oil level to make sure that
the oil was at the proper level?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I did not do that, but I just probably previously
changed my oil, probably a week before that before this
started happening, I think.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
So typically on those engines, they do burn oil, all right,
So a lot of times if the oil is very
dirty or low, it can set those codes. Okay, Because
those sylenoids, I know you call them CAM sensors, but
they call them variable valve timing sylinoids. Okay, they advance
and retard the timing of the engines, so they're controlled
(19:31):
by oil pressure. So if the oil is really dirty
or low, it could potentially set those codes. Okay, So
next step, let's make sure are if the oil is
full at the right level. Would my suggestion before you
go any further would be to and I know you've
already spent the money on the sylenoids on the aftermarket once,
(19:54):
I would only recommend using ac Delco because the the quality,
that's a very very intricate part of the engine, and
you want to.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Make sure that you're putting AC Duco.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
That would be because I won't put them on anything
else other than AC Dulko. That's the original equipment. It's
that's what Chevy puts in there. Just to rule that out,
because it's easy to do, you can do it now.
I know that you unfortunately already spent spent the money
on the aftermarket ones.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
But to rule this out, let's put the factory ones in. Okay,
if you're still.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Getting the code, the most likely the engine is out
of time and you need a timing chain, which is.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
For her early days. I because I had replaced the
engine in this car.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
How long ago?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Uh? Five years ago?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Okay? How many miles do you think you have them?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I only got about forty five to fifty thousand miles
on it.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Do you have any record or knowledge of the car
every using oil or burning it or being low on
oil at any point?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
So what we've always found is.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
These vehicles will burn oil, and a lot of people
associate it with oh, seeing white smoke or seeing you know,
but nobody really knows.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
And and and again.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
You know, when you go to get your oil change,
they don't check your level before they change your oil.
They just change your oil and boom you're out the door.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You don't know.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
You could literally pull in and get your oil change
the next time, and you can only have a quarter
of oil in there. Everybody goes, oh, I've got an
oil light, it'll pop on. No, they don't pop on.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I mean I've.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Literally had a car come in with I just had
a car on the other day, half a quarter of oil,
no oil light, half a quarter of oil.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
The thing took five courts. It only had a half core,
no oil light.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
So what I would recommend too is when you get
your oil chain, I would recommend this not just to you,
but to anybody out there that's listening.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
When you get your.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Check it, check it.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Yeah, but I'm for those who don't check your oil
or I'm sorry for those of you who don't change
your oil. Every time you get your oil changed, I
will tell you, tell your mechanic or tell whoever changing it. Hey,
please check the level before I get my oil change.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Please check it just to find out, okay, because.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Every single day I have a car that comes into
all of my shops that the reason that it's there
is because it doesn't mean oil in it.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
So just be aware of that.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
But what happens is the reason why I say it
might need chains, is what happens is these cars get
low on oil, the chains get hot. When they get hot,
they stretch, and when they get stretched, then the cars
out of time and can send that faulty code.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
So I'm not saying you need change. But if you've
checked your oil, it's full, it looks clean, you put
the ac Delco syllinoids in it, and you're still getting
the codes, then the only other thing it can be
is the chain is stretched and it's out of time.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Okay, Yeah, it does feel like it's not not time's
right to me. What's running with these selenois. So if
the son noise fixed is that, then then I'm probably good.
But if it doesn't, then it's the timing chain.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
You think, Yes, sir, we put chains on cars. I
got it.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
I've got my technician at auto for and he's putting
chains in a BMW. It's ten thousand dollars to replace
the chains and everything to fix the chains on a BMW.
So it's a very very common problem. The chain when
it came out, man, it was great.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You know. It's like, hey, we don't have to put
timing belts on these cars anymore.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
It's gonna save you eleven hundred dollars every one hundred
thousand miles to put a belt on. And I'm telling
you what I would take eleven thousand dollars replace timing
belt ever one hundred thousand miles, then putting a ten
thousand dollars chain in a BMW.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I mean, but so it's impaired, so check the oil,
make sure it's clean.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
If that's the case, I would do AC delco And
you can buy them. You know, you can buy them cheap.
I mean, but ac Delco is what you want to do.
You put them in. If you still have the problem,
it's out of time, it needs a chain, you can
all right, okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I do appreciate your help.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
You're absolutely take care. That's the thing. And it's it's
frustrating me. And sometimes you can hear me. You kind
of get amped up and I'll get on a tangent
and just go off. But listen, I'm telling you. These
cars are great. They're sophisticated, they run great. You know,
they last a lot longer if you maintain them. Now,
(24:34):
this isn't like you know seventy. You know this isn't
nineteen seventy where you know you got one hundred thousand
miles out of car and you got rid of it's
wore out. These things can go two, three, four hundred
thousand miles if they're maintained.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
But you have to be aware of what's out there.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
And that's why it's imperative that you listen to me
or any other car enthusiasts. These cars burn oil. They
just about all of them do. Okay, it's the way
they're designed because of government regulations and so on and
so forth. Right, So, uh, it's something that is so simple.
(25:10):
I mean, if you're if you if you went to
your doctor, okay, and you said, hey, doc, I want
to live to one hundred and twenty years old. Right,
what's the single best thing I could do to to
live to one hundred and twenty years old? And your
doctor said, drink a glass of water every day. You'll
live to one hundred and twenty. What would don't you
think everybody be doing it?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Right? It's the simple. And again, changing your oil on
your car is the simplest best.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Thing that you can do to keep it on the road. Okay,
and I'm it's it's like drinking a glass of water.
You want to you want to live a long time,
and your doctor says, drink a glass of water. Most
people would take that advice. One glass of water. I
could do that right. One oil change every five thousand miles,
I can do that now. I understand that. Uh it's
(25:58):
not cheap now days, but it's the best thing to
do to protect your investment. It's the best thing that
you can do. And we've talked about this on the show,
and I sometimes, you know, I hate to be redundant,
but sometimes people might be tuning in now and haven't
been tuning in the last time I said this. But listen,
all of the vehicles that are made today have synthetic
(26:20):
oil in them. Okay, when I started doing this ten
years ago, I'm sorry. When I started doing this twenty
five years ago, there was you know, just conventional oil.
And then when I started doing radio, and I haven't
been doing this show for ten years, but when I
started doing radio ten years ago, I had another radio
show on another station. But when I started doing this,
(26:42):
it was three thousand dollars conventional and five thousand on
synthetic oil changes. That's when you change them. Now, fast
forward to twenty twenty five. All of these cars that
are manufacturer today are full synthetic oil. Okay, and I'm
telling you I will. I will try to beat this
in everybody's brains as best as I can. Five thousand miles,
(27:06):
you change your oil period. I don't care what the
car tells you. I don't care what the car salesman
tells you five thousand miles. It's so simple. I had
an argument with I shouldn't say argument. I had a
gentleman says, hey, I'm bringing my car in for a
ninety five thousand mile service. When did you change one
oil last? I said, we changed it at ninety He goes,
all right, well, I don't want an oil change then,
(27:27):
because my car says that I need to do it
every ten thousand. And I wanted to just beat my
head against the wall, because.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
You know these.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Cars burn oil. Your car's not gonna tell you when
your car's low on oil. It will not okay, it's
not gonna tell you. You're not gonna know that it's
burn and oil because it's not gonna be smoking. You're
gonna bring the car to me or any other repair
shop with no oil in it, and then potentially, like
I said, eventually it's gonna need change.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
And I'm I'm doing.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
We've got a BMW at the shop right now, changed
the guides everything, and they were broken.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
And it's ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Had the gentleman been checking his oil or at least
changing it regularly, one hundred percent, I can't say one
hundred but ninety nine percent sure that this car would
not have the problems that it's having now.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Things do break, things do happen.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
But I'm telling you, the oil is the most important
thing that you can do. It's the lifeblood of your vehicle,
and it's so important, and it's so cheap to do.
And again, I don't it. You know, drives me nuts
when I hear well my car says ten thousand, Well,
the guy I bought it from. My salesman says every
ten or the owner's man, I you know again, I
(28:42):
talked about this last week. I had the opportunity to
buy a new vehicle myself, and my vehicle says that
I should change the oil every seventy five hundred to
ten thousand miles says that says that in the owner's manual.
Guess what Dane's doing. He's changed it. He's changed in
at every five thousand miles. And I've already changed it
five thousand miles. I changed it.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
I have a little Honda Civic that I've had for
I've had it for twenty two years. It's twenty five
years old. I've had it twenty two years. I've changed
oil in that car maybe fifteen hundred miles. Now that's
a little excessive. I'm a little bit of a weirdo
it comes to change in oil. But I mean the
car is twenty five years old, has one hundred and
forty three thousand miles on it, and you know, knock
(29:26):
on wood, it's running like a top. It's a great vehicle.
And uh so, all right again, taking your phone calls
and number to call five one three seven nine fifty
five hundred.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Coming up, We've got Alan.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
You can listening to the car show on fifty five
krs deep talk station. Taking your car questions and number
to call five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Real quick.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
My my mother in law's listened and she just called
me and said hey, with a newly purchased vehicle, would
it make sense to change oil before five thousand mile?
You can, and I thought about that, but h I
spoke with a really really great mechanic of ours. And
when you purchase a new vehicle, there are certain there
(30:13):
are certain uh you know, because everybody talks about engine
break in and hey, we you know, I want to
change a oil a lot of fousand to break it
in and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
But they the oil that they put in there has.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Certain preserved not preserved is, but have certain detergents and
things like that to help break in that engine. So no,
I think with a new car, no, you don't have
to change it earlier. I think you're still going to
be you'll be fine. But again, if you change it
a little, if you changed it at four thousand or
forty five hundred or something like that, it's fine. And
(30:43):
you always can change your oil early. I mean, in
my opinion it's better anyways. But you can never change
it too early. But please don't follow the guidelines of
what the autumn. And I'm not a conspiracy or whatnot,
but let's be honest here. Going back, if you remember
(31:05):
two thousand and eight, right, we had the financial crisis.
Right up until two thousand and eight, the vehicles were
recommended to change oil at three thousand on conventional, five
thousand on synthetic.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Okay, two thousand and eight happens, we get.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
The financial collapse, and then dealerships are scrambling to try
to sell cars.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
So what do they do. They offer free oil changes.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Right, Hey, buy a car from us, We'll give you
lifetime oil changes.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Some of you. You may remember this.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
I remember it because I'm like, man, they're gonna get
free oil changes, right. I was concerned about it, and
lo and behold, guess what. Immediately overnight it's oh, no,
you don't change your oil every five thousands, every ten thousand.
And I've never had anybody call me and debunk what
I'm saying here, but it's you know, it's like.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Wow, that was really odd timing.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
It's kind of weird that we were doing three and
five and then we go to synthetic and we do
financial class we're giving out free oil changes, and now
it's like, no, it's every ten thousand. I literally had
customers that would buy a Toyota and they would take
it in every five thousand. They would take it in
at five thousand miles, they're like, oh, you're not due
form old change. You know, we're not going to pay
for it, so you need to bring it back in
(32:17):
another five thousand. And I'm not picking on Toyota, but
I had example of that, and so every five thousand
stick to that, you'll be fine. So all right, let's
go to the phones. We've got Alan. Hey, Alan, thanks
for holding on. I really do appreciate it. How can
I help?
Speaker 6 (32:35):
I got No.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Five f one fifty and driving it down the road,
they'll do fine. But the relative throttle position I got
monitoring will go from like twenty percent and drop off.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
To nothing and then right back up and drive fine.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
And I'll replace the fuel pump, fuel pump, driver, throttle body.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
And it's still doing it.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
The relative throttle position will go from you know, about
twenty two at cruising in high gear, Uh, drop off
to nothing, Carl fall in his face, booms, pop right
back up.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
So you said you replaced the fuel pump, the throttle body,
and what else.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
This fuel pump, driver and the fuel filter.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
All right, it says here five four one fifty, yes,
all right?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
And then are you using a scan tool to watch this?
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Yeah, it's got a live data stream. So I'm watching
as I go down the road, and the.
Speaker 7 (33:36):
Relative throttle position will go from you know, twenty two
ish and drop off to nothing and go back.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
And I'll replaced the pedal to it. So the pedal
will uh, it's got three sensors on it on the
reset everything, and uh, you know it's it's doing normal.
But the second code it's loading, so you know, it'll
(34:10):
be like twenty two percent. Let's see here.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
So app D is eighteen percent, is twenty nine percent,
and then apps is eighteen percent, which seems pretty normal
because it's always doing that. But the relative throttle position
will just drop right off. No, I'll watch it just
dropping off.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
You got any ideas, oh man?
Speaker 5 (34:33):
I mean, I mean you could be dealing with like
a like a PCM issue or at home. Man, dude,
you oh man, there's a million different ways we can
go on that. I've never seen that issue. I don't
(34:57):
have any ideas off the top of my head. Is
there any codes or anything in the computer as far
as I know you're watching this. You know you're watching
the live data, But are there any codes that pop
up in the computer?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
No?
Speaker 6 (35:12):
Code?
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Okay, oh man, that's uh. Are you do you live
close by?
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Is there any chance you can maybe bring it by
let me take a look at it for you?
Speaker 6 (35:23):
Yeah, I mean Alexander.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Okay, well man, I'm sorry, run out of time, but
if you want to call me, go to donavitire dot
com go to find the auto foreign location call me
on Monday.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I'd be more than happy.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
To Uh, maybe we'll let's bring it by, let's take
a look at it.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I'd love to help you out. Brother.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
So man, sorry I was late. I apologize. I'll be
back next Saturday. Answer all of your car questions. You're
listening to the Car Show on fifty five krc D
talk station.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
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