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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Chevy to the litty. So good afternoon and welcome
to the car show.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I am Dame Donovan taking all of your car questions
and I'm going to call five one three seven number
again five one three seven nine fifty five hundred. I
hope everybody is enjoying this wonderful weather we're having, right,
you know what, we have to keep chucking on and
we have to keep our cars rocking and rolling and
ready to go and make sure that it's ready for
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this weather. And you know I let up to this
back in November and December. Right, it is something that
we have to make sure that our cars are ready
and prepared for whatever Mother Nature brings us.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Right, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Man, we are busy, busy because there's a lot of
things that break. Batteries, starters, alternators, I mean, you name it.
A lot of things break. And we have been very blessed,
but very busy at Donovan Tyre. And again you can
go to Donovantyre dot com find your nearest location.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
We have three.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
We've got one we have one in blue Ash, one
plus Ridge and our newest location and just outside of Norwood.
It's it's technically Evanston. But I mean when I say
outside of Nord, I'm talking a set of train tracks,
set of train tracks sets us apart from Norwood to Evanston.
So but it's at the corner of Data and Montgomery,
right there by Xavier University. So if you know where
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Xavier is, we are close by. So again I'm taking
your phone calls and we call five one, three, seven,
four nine. But I do want to talk about and
again what I want to talk about. And I've talked
about this before on the show. And uh, great customer
came in yesterday. She bought a brand new Ford Bronco. Right,
and she came in and she goes, Dan, I just
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bought this car, said man, looks great. And she goes
hands me this panther and says, hey, they want me
to buy this warranty for the car, and what are
your thoughts. So I looked at it, and I'm like, Okay,
this is an aftermarket warranty. Okay, most of you who
listen regularly, I am completely against these things. And I
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felt that I needed to talk about it again and
reiterate to people.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I recently had the opportunity to buy a new vehicle myself,
first one and I'm forty years old, first one I've
ever purchased, forty years of my life, first new car
I ever purchased. It's a Ford, and again, very blessed
and grateful that I got that opportunity. And when I
was purchasing it, I asked if there was any type
of extended factory warranty. Now, this is important. Extended factory warranty.
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Listen to me here. It's very important if you're purchasing
a new vehicle and you do want to have added
protection because these cars, again you say, I mean most
of your cars are you know, if you buy an
suv or a truck or whatnot. I mean these things
are starting fifty sixty, seventy eighty thousand, you know, I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Some of them are one hundred thousand.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Right, you want to make sure that you protect when
I say investment, I understand it's a depreciating asset, but
you want to protect it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You want to make sure that if all these vehicles
nowadays have all these electronics, they've got all this technology,
and that's great and a lot of it saves lives,
but it comes at a cost of a cost that
if it fails.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Or breaks, it's going to cost you a lot of money. Right.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
So, if you're in the market to buy a new vehicle, okay,
a new vehicle, ask your salesperson if there is an
extended factory warranty. Okay, I asked my salesman. I said, hey,
do you have an extended factor warranty? And guess what
they do? So, when I purchased my Ford, it was
a you know, the standard across the board for all
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makes and models is, except for Hyundai in Kia, three
years thirty six thousand miles. Okay, three years thirty six
thousand miles. Now that's great, but you know, we tend
to keep our cars longer, and this stuff gets more
and more expensive as you know, as it goes on.
So I purchased my extended factory warranty to a seven year,
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one hundred thousand mile warranty. Now, yes, did it cost
me an additional amount of money? Yes, okay, but it
is an extended factory warranty. Okay again, let me I
want to beat this in your head. Factory warranty.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
This young lady came in, she goes, Dan, they want
me to buy this warranty and it's thirty five hundred
dollars and what are your thoughts? And I looked at it.
I said, you don't want that. Okay, that's an aftermarket warranty.
And she's like, well, you know it's going to cover
this this, it's it's I'm covered at h I think
it was ten years, one hundred and fifty thousand miles
and and.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
You know it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
You know, it's thirty five hundred bucks. And I said listen,
and she agreed with me, and she was she was like, hey,
I'm here to listen to what you have to say.
And you know, these after market warranties are garbage.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Okay, they are a waste of your money. Please. You
know they want to sell it to you.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And yes, it seems like it's just just this great
thing and you're gonna be covered.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I can tell you first handedly that what I see
that they what these warranty companies do to people. Okay,
First of all, they do not cover any type of diagnostic.
They do not cover shop supply fees, they do not
cover any type of diet. Well, I said diagnostic, but
they do not cover diagnostic. They don't cover they'll only
cover certain amounts, so dependent upon the warranty company. Right,
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So if you go to a shop that's their labor
rates one hundred and twenty five dollars an hour, well,
your your aftermark warrants company goes, oh, we'll only pay
seventy five, right, and so you end up, really, you
end up paying for these repairs. Anyways. You might get
a little bit off of it, but you don't. They don't,
you know, they want to present this as like this
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is just this great thing and you're gonna be covered.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
You're not.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And I've seen it time and time again. You know,
these people buy these these aftermarket warranties and they really
don't cover anything. And I used to say that it
was kind of like catastrophic, right. It was like, oh,
you know, if your engine fails, right, but I have
a great customer, great customer Honda Pilot purchases it, pays
I think five thousand dollars for this after market warranty
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and purchases it and loan behold it's a Honda great product.
Engine fails. Okay, Now, if you open up this little
pamphlet that's covered, engine is covered, it says that, right,
So I call the warranty company, and they say, well, yeah,
the engine's covered, but we're going to send our technician
out to look at the vehicle, all right, So now
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we're waiting three or four days before they send their
technician out basically to verify that what I said it needed.
That's what their technician said. So now they don't give
you any type of loan or car or anything like that.
So now you're waiting three or four days. Now what
they tell me is okay, yep, engine's locked up, but
we need you to tear that engine apart and find
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out exactly what caused the failure inside the engine.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Oh and by the way, we're not going to cover
you to tear that engine down and find out exactly
what's going to cause the engine. You know, we're not
gonna cover that. The customer needs to pay for that.
So now the customer's on the hook for about you know,
two three thousand dollars for me to take that engine out,
tear it apart, and find exactly what part in that
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engine failed.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Okay. Now, I explained to the.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Warranting com I said, well, what if I tear it
all apart, I can't find exactly what part failed, Like, well,
then we won't cover anything. And to me, that was
completely dishonest. And I'm like, so, I'm like, you want
the customer to pay three thousand dollars for me to
tear that engine out, tear it apart, find what failed,
and if I can't find anything that failed in the
customer not only has paid three thousand, but then he
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has to pay another ten thousand for an engine. Yes,
And that that was the last straw for me that
led me to was like just never again am I
gonna ever recommend an aftermarket warranty company because this gentleman
in the literature says that the engine was covered, and
what they did to this gentleman again, to me, was
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was criminal. So I wanted to again reiterate, if you're
buying a new car, please ask if they have an
extended factory warranty. If not, do not buy any type
of aftermarket warranty. Okay, it's a waste of your money.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Take that.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
If it's thirty five this young lady that was at
the shop yesterday, it's thirty five hundred, do take that money.
Put it in stock market, right, you're gonna earn, hopefully,
five to eight percent on it. So please don't buy
an aftermarket warranty. If anybody out there has have I
seen in the past that somebody does have one and
it's covered some of their costs. Yes, okay, you see
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them on the commer, on the on the TV all
the time. I'm bombarded with him. I see them all
the time, you know, on social media, on TV or whatnot,
and you know, my blood pressure starts to raise because
from my perspective, what I see, what they do to
people is criminal, and I just I just don't recommend them.
So if you're again, if you're buying one, please don't
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buy an aftermarket warranty. Just take the money and put
it in the stock market and or invested in something,
and you know you're better off.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Okay, So all right, the.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
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Speaker 2 (10:06):
Welcome back taking your car question the number to call
five one, three, seven four nine fifty five. The phones
are lightnut, so I really do appreciate it. I want
to get to everybody's phone calls. Uh again, I am
Dane Donovan Donovan's Auto entire Center.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
So let's go to the phones. We have Paul, Hey, Paul,
welcome to the car show. How can I help? Hey?
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Dan, Well, I talked to you a month or so ago.
I was kind of disassemble an engine and the pistons
were stuck.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I remember that.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Yeah, I managed to get the other two out, so
the other three whatever, So I'm just following up. I
got to wind up having to go forty over on
the on the cylinders to clean them up. Uh maybe
maybe more more involved in it. And it is practical
at this for a pounds, So that's for you. Over
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on those got to take ten off the journals to
clean them up. I got to set of pistons and
bearings and everything to put it back together without the
junk yard this morning picking up cam shafts to the
couple of the lobes were kind of spaulled on on
the ones that were in the engine.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Mm hmmm. So uh where did you get the pistons
at did you buy new pistons?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, new pistons, okay, all right, so you got new pistons,
but you said you're putting bearings okay, and you got
all that new yeah okay. But the cams you said
you you got used cams.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Yeah, the ones that were like I said, the ones
that were in it had each had one lobe that
was starting to spall uh huh, which they had a
which they had a problem in the early years of
the element engines like that. So I use the same
cams and some of the cord engines. So I found
a found in the cord with a nice looking set.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Okay, what about uh, what about the timing chain and
guides are you are you.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Putting I'm gonna put I'm gonna put.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
News in Okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I was gonna say, if you're if you're going in
there doing what I call like it's kind of like
open heart surgery on a on an engine like that.
You want to make sure you put new guys, new tensioner, uh,
new chain.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You want to make sure that you don't have to
go back in there again.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Yeah, yeah, and debating, I'll proy try and check the
clearances on the oil pump. And I don't know whether
I want to go to the extent of putting a new.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Pump in it, but yeah, I mean I I I've
never seen a I've never seen a Honda pump oil
pump fail, So I think you'd be all right there.
But I would definitely make sure you do the You're
gonna go to the length of what you're doing to
save yourself some money to make sure you get like
a timing chain kit, right, so it has everything in it,
because if you buy everything individually, it's gonna be pretty costly.
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And since you're doing since you're you know, doing it yourself,
just buy a kit and just replace it all that way.
You're you're good and golden.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
All right, all right, Paul, Well, thank you for the call.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
You have a great weekend. Call me up with the
follow up. I want I want to hear this thing running,
all right.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Okay, all right, well you take care of have a
great day.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
All right, let's go back to the phones. We've got Rich. Hey, Rich,
welcome to the car show. How can I help?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Thanks. I'm looking for a huge car, and I want
to get something that's both reliable and durable, and I'm
not afraid of older cars the fact I prefer them.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, I would agree with you on that.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
What's your opinion on the Panther platform for cars? You
said the Pound, Vict Crown, Vix and Grand Marquees and oh.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Man, if you can get one and find one, I'd
buy it all day long. I think in my opinion
that was probably, in my opinion, that was probably the
best car for what ever made. Yeah, I mean those things,
I've never I've never ever seen anybody kill one of
those things. Never. I mean you can't. They're like they're
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like they are their tanks. I mean, they are almost indestructible.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
I've seen a lot of good, good things on them.
What about you know one thing I'm looking at. Of
course they're going to be older because they stopped making
them what fourteen years ago. And I know I sometimes
have a problem with cars that are older, not necessarily
high mile age, but because I know time is an
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enemy of parts as much or not as much. But
you know, in addition to where how old is too old?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
You know what, that's a great question. And I'm not
worried about age. What I'm worried about is where it's
been most of his life. So yeah, if you're buying
a I mean, if you could find a two thousand
and eight Crown Vic that was spend its entire life
up in New York, I'd be like, run, I don't
care if it has five thousand miles on it, if
it's been sitting outside in New York, been driving, get
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away from it.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Run.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You got a Crown Vic that's it's an O eight
Crown Vic, that it has one hundred and fifty thousand
miles and it's been down south, you know, Texas.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Florida, Georgia, Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Something like that, I'd be more inclined to buy a
car that's down there. So really it's it's conditions that
I'm not worried about age.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I'm not worried about mileage.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
It's the conditions of the vehicle where it's spent most
of its life.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
So you know, if you've got a car that's been
sitting outside its entire life, I wouldn't recommend probably buying it,
And if you do, you make sure that you get
it inspected before you buy it, because I've just seen
so a lot of cars and I this happens all
the time. I can get a car and look at it,
do a used car inspection on it, get it and
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it's just covered in russ and it's like, man on
the outside, look great. Right, you get up in the air,
it's a whole another story, and I'm like, I guarantee
this car came from.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Come up from up north.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
So what they do is like all those cars up
in New York, Pennsylvania, you know, all those cars up north,
they ship them down here and they're just a rusted bucket,
just a mess.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
So again, I'm not necessarily worried about age.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I mean, I would probably say anything two thousand and up,
you'll be.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
All right, okay.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
And one of the things that I see a lot
on especially the Crown well with the Crown Vics as
opposed to the Grand Marquis, is that the police in versions.
I don't know, that kind of scares me a little
bit because they sit in idol so much. Yeah, is
that a concern or not?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
No, I mean it's a little bit of a concern.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I mean if you buy you know, if you buy
an old police cruiser that, yes, it does have a
lot of idle hours. And what you see because I
mean even like like up in uh you know, a
lot of cab drivers years ago had those things right,
and you'd see them like smoke and burn a little
bit oil because of the rings. But man, I tell
you what, I've never ever seen one fail. If you
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can get one that doesn't have a lot of idle hours,
and you can look at that on the most of
the time, if it's new or if it's like an
eight to that you know, I can't remember exactly what
year they quit making the Crown Vic. I wish they
never would have stopped. I wish they would have never stopped. Man,
that car was. That was phenomenal vehicle.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
And I love the rear drive. I mean, there's a
lot to love about those old cars.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, but again, idol hours don't necessarily scare me too
much as well. You know a lot of those cruisers
have you know, one hundred thousand miles on them, and yeah,
they have a lot of idle hours, but it still
doesn't well.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
That's correct, Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, just do.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
What I would tell you is the best advice I
can give you is just whatever, when you find one,
make sure again you find out where it came from, right,
if it came from northern States or what we call
the Ross Belt. Right, even Ohio is not as bad
as like Pennsylvania, Michigan, uh, you know, New York or whatnot.
Find out where it came from, where it originated, and
find out about it. I mean, if you buy one
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for them, I would probably say from Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee,
Georgia and farther down south probably the better. But just
make sure that when you find one, you just get
it inspected by a mechanic. And you know, sometimes you
might find hey, Dane, I found one in you know,
southern California. We'll find a rebutle shop down there and
have it inspected before you boy the thing.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
That's all I ask. And just make sure that.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Yeah, I've got one that I found in northern Georgia. Okay,
that looks like a pretty nice car. There you go,
love fairly love mile agent. The prices at a liar
than I want to pay, but it might it might
not scare me off, but it.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Might be it might be worth it because if it's
been spending, if it's been in Georgia most of its life,
and there's probably not any rust in it.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Yeah, what about what about cars here locally around? Now
I'm in northern Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Uh, cars locally here or find Northern Kentucky, Cincinnati, you know, Dayton, Indiana.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
You'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
There might be a dealership in Cincinnati that has a
Crown vic Right dealership, but that car may have came
from New York. So you just want to make sure
you checked spend the money.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Some dealerships don't.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, get the car fax, find out where it came from,
what it originated at, and look at the vehicle history
on it and make sure that. I mean, if it's
spent most of its time in Cincinnati, Northern Kentucky, Indiana,
you're fine. But if it's been shipped from Michigan or
Pennsylvania or something like that.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I would steer clear.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Okay, all right, thanks love, all right, thank.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
You, all right, take care, have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Bye bye, all right again, taking your phone calls the
number to call five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty five,
one hundred.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Coming up.
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Speaker 4 (20:14):
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Speaker 2 (20:22):
Welcome back here listening to the car Show on fifty
five KRC, the talk station. I got to get back
to the phones immediately because the phones are lighting up
and I really want to get to everybody's question.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
So let's go to the phones. We have Greg. Hey, Greg,
welcome to the car show. How can I help?
Speaker 7 (20:35):
Oh, I've got a twenty twenty one Kia K five,
And I don't know if you're familiar with the oil
filter and the the plastic cup that holds it on
the bottom, and the drain plug that it also has.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Should be pretty similar to most of what they have,
but it's the you said, the K five, Yes, okay,
what's going on with it?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
You got? Are you having problems with it?
Speaker 7 (21:01):
I've got fifty five thousand miles and I changed oil
every five thousand miles, and I changed it about twenty
four hundred miles ago, and this morning there was oil
on my driveway. Okay, so I changed the filter out again.
I guess an O ring. There's an O ring on
the cup and an O ring in that drain blood.
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But the whole apparatus seems ridiculously Chinsey.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, welcome the new Welcome to the car market.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
So I don't know if if it makes a difference
who I buy the oil filters from.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You know, I mean or no, well, no necessarily.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I mean, did you see the oil Was it coming
out of that plastic cap or coming out from that
O ring?
Speaker 7 (21:52):
It looked like it was coming out of the cap
more at the top rather than the drain plug because
it was wet up high.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Okay, are you talking about that little plug at the.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Top, the drain plug at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
You're talking on the oil pan.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Yeah, the pasty cups down below. There's a like a
twenty two millimeter wrench.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Right to get that for the oil filter, yep.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Yeah, And there's like a pin that goes in with
a T shape and you put it up in and
then twist it and lock it, and I guess it
keeps the filter from turning inside there. I don't know,
but but it seems like more like it's just a
drain to drain the cup, so when you take it off,
you don't get drenched with oil, right, you do anyway,
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So it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
It doesn't matter is your oil filter housing is it
above like underneath the hood or is it underneath the vehicle?
Speaker 7 (22:44):
It's on the bottom underneath the vehicle, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
And you said you replace the filter and the O
ring and it seemed to be coming from that that
ring from the cap.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Right, But it was bone dry for twenty four hundred miles.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
You know that.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
You know that little O rings rubber, right, and you
know with heat and whatnot and things expand and contract.
Where did you get the filter from? I think was
as you know, I do see is it was it
like their house brand or whatnot?
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Probably I didn't ask, just right. They're hard to find it.
It's like a special order and sometimes they don't come
in and just and you're.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
And you're doing the oil change yourself, correct, right, I
mean yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
A lot of.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Times what we see is two things. One, I mean
the cap itself and the housing. I'm sure it's perfectly fine.
Two things.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
What we see is a lot of times when you
go to tighten it.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Up, that little O ring will get a cut in it,
a small cut or you can tear it.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I mean it's happened to us.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I mean, my guys do these things all day long,
and they'll put one in and they.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Just go to tighten it up like they're supposed to.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
And when tightening it, they it rips and we'll cause
a leak. I would type of I mean, I would
recommend if you're gonna, if you're doing it yourself, I
would just probably get the filter from Kiah. The rubber
comes with new O rings, correct, Yeah, I mean, I
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you know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I don't necessarily.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I'm not opposed to buying aftermarket, but typically it depends
on what you're buying. But aftermarket, typically the quality is
not as good as the dealer. That rubber gasket that
you put in there probably just it's probably just the
qualities is probably not there.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I mean, it happens to us.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
But did you end up getting the same oil filter
or did you buy a different brand this time?
Speaker 7 (24:40):
Yeah? I got the same one. I put it in
and drove from Anderson Township to Montgomery and it doesn't
leak a drop.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Okay yet, did you Yeah, did you inspect the old
ring the old ring, just to see.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
If there's any type of tear?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I mean, I mean we're talking about not even like
it doesn't have to be completely cutting, like completely torn.
I mean you can have a hairline crack in those
things and or just throw it away.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
Yeah, I mean I saved it, but I'll look more
closely at it. I thought I saw like a sliver
of some sort. So what you're saying is probably exactly right.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I mean, it doesn't take much.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
And again a lot of times there might not be
anything wrong with that gasket. And then just when you
go to tighten it up. What I would recommend when
you do so when you put that new OH ring on,
do you take some of the old oil and just
kind of run your run your finger over that ring.
Speaker 9 (25:36):
I use the new oil, but but I do do that, yeah,
because I mean that would prevent too from anything tearing,
possibly because basically you're lubricating that gasket just to make
sure that when you're tightening it down it doesn't get
a tear.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
So but I have seen listen, we put on, you know,
hundreds of filters a week, and yeah, I mean every
once in a while you get man, maybe a manufacturer
defect or they go to put it on. The technician
didn't do anything wrong, and it just it tears when
they tighten it up, and you know, people calling like, hey, uh,
I got an old leak. Now after you guys changed
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my oil and come back, and sure enough, there's there's
a little hairline cut or tear in that O ring.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
So it happens, and.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
It's just surprised it took twenty four hundred miles for
it to begin leaking.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Well, and again, I mean it could be a little
bit of uh, the the rubber O ring, the quality
of the product. Right, just from getting hot cold, hot
cold as cold as it's been, right, that thing swells
and then it gets So it could be a little
bit of the weather factor too, because you know, is
it really made out of rubber or some type of
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synthetic you.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
Know, So, yeah, there's there's a lot of expansion and
contraction going on.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
So and again, I mean, you know again, I mean
I've I've had people like, you know, we put a
we changed our oil, and they don't have a single problem,
and then five thousand miles later the oil filter's leaking, Right,
wasn't leaking before it went five thousand miles and then
it started leaking. So it happens. I don't think there's
any I don't think there's any concern. Just make sure
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you keep your eye on it. And yeah, just keep
your eye on it. And if you can buy the
one from Kiya, I know it's gonna be a little
bit more. But you know, if you're doing it yourself,
you're already And I've always been a big proponent of this,
if you're doing it yourself, spend the money on the
on the on the the good filter and and by
by I've said this a ton of times on the show.
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If you're doing your own car repair, which I there's
a lot of people out there that can do this
stuff right, And if you're working on your own car,
you're already saving yourself a tremendous amount of money. Right,
So I've always said that if you're gonna do it yourself,
please buy a quality part. I'm not knocking aftermarket parts
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or whatnot, but.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
If you're already doing it, you're already saving yourself a
ton of money. Buy a good, quest quality part.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
It really does make a difference, makes a difference, and
you're going to get better quality, and it's the most
likely the part's going to last longer. Okay, you know,
I could use a good analogy if you're like, hey,
you know, your doc's like, hey, we're gonna have to
go ahead and replace a you.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Know, a valve in your heart. Do you want the
cheapest one?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
You can buy, yeah, it probably lasts you about another
ten years. Or do you want to buy the more
expensive one and you know, probably live to one hundred
years old. Most of us would say, hey, give me
the good one. Right, that's a little extreme, But what
I'm saying is you're already doing the work. You're already
saving yourself the money on labor and whatnot. Buy the
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good quality part, okay, And there's an easy way to
do it. I'm not saying you have to buy it
from the dealer, but you can do a little bit
of research and find a good quality part.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
If you've got a Ford, you want to buy a motorcraft.
If you've got a GM, you want to buy ac Delco.
If you have a toy, you want to buy Denzo.
If you have a Hanah Denzo, if you have a Hyundai,
you can do Denzo as well.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So you just want to make sure that you're buying
a good quality part if you're doing the work yourself.
And again I applaud you great job for doing that,
and a lot of people do like doing it.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
You know, it's a Saturday for today, it's forty degrees out.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
It feels like a you know, nice spring day, but
you want to make sure that you not having to
go back in there and do it again right. So
coming up, we have Joel, George, Robin Jerry. You're listening
to the Car Show on fifty five kr ce D
talk station.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
You have a truck, camper, RV or trailer that needs
body repair. If so, call Frank's Heavy Truck collisiony Repair,
located just All five seventy five or Route sixty three.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
It's convenient to both Cincinnati and Date.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
With over thirty years of experience including insurance work and fleetwork,
Franks knows the most important things are quality work and
customer satisfaction. Frank's Heavy Truck Collision Repair prides themselves in
doing the job right and get in your vehicle back
on the road. Call five one, three, eight, two, nine
ninety thirty eight to nine ninety thirty.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Taking your car questions and here every Saturday to answer
all of them. I am Dean Donovan from Donovan's Auto
entire Center. Let's get back to the phones.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
We have Joel. Hey, Joel, welcome to the car Show.
How can it help Hello?
Speaker 8 (30:15):
I have a twenty thirteen Camray with a one hundred
and fifty six thousand miles on it, and when I
bought it, I'm sure it road better. I wouldn't have
bought it. And it's an SE, So I think it
has a stiffer suspension, Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I don't think the LED.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
I haven't got an answer from the Toyota dealer. Again.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
No, I don't think the SE or the ELI are
going to have a different suspension.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
It should be the same.
Speaker 8 (30:45):
Oh well, maybe stiffer roll bars the sway bars. Yeah,
but that doesn't help the ride anyway. It seems like
the ride is getting stiffer and stiffer all the time.
Maybe it's because I'm getting older and but non, that's
not that funny. But I'm just wondering shocks. I see
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them go bad and then there's just going crazy there's
no shock available, and then but mine or stiff.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Typically when you when a when a shock or a
strut is going bad, you typically will have a bouncy ride, right,
not a stiff ride, but like a really really bouncing Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
I've seen them. Yeah, Okay, I understand how it works
and everything, And they should have not called them shock
absorbers in the first place.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
They should have.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
Called them spring damp the nurse.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
Yeah, but that's what they are.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
That's what they are. You're right, it's a lot of there's.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
A lot of confusion beginning.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, there's a lot of confusion too, because there's there's
shocks and then their struts, and it's like, what's the
difference and shocks don't have a spring around them.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Struts due and yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I mean, if you have one hundred and fifty thousand miles,
I think it would be a good idea to replace them.
Now when I say that, though it's very expensive, is
this something that you would do yourself or would you
take it to a mechanic?
Speaker 8 (32:11):
Oh? No, I probably won't even do either one right now?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Okay, yeah, because I mean it's probably God, it's probably
twenty it's probably about two grand, twenty two hundred dollars
to put all new struts on that that camera.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
No, I appreciate that information. I'll tell my wife and
she'll say, no, I won't get it done. I won't
get it done.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
All right.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I mean, if it's a stiff ride, could just be
like you said, maybe you personally, maybe you just feel
like it's riding stiffer. But typically when a shock or
a strut is worn out, you're gonna get a bouncy ride. Right,
You're gonna go over bump and the whole thing's just
kind of bouncing. But man, at one hundred and fifty
thousand miles, it would be a good idea to do it.
But if they're not blown out, I'd have it inspected
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by a mechanic if the if the strut itself is
not physically leaking any fluid, that I wouldn't worry about it.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
Yeah, well, no it's not okay, I can't get under
it to look, but okay, all right, I'm taking enough time.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
All right, Joel, thank you, you have a great day.
All right, let's go back to the phones we have George. Hey, George,
welcome to the car show. How can I help?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Thank you for taking my call, Sir. I have a
twenty fifteen gmc Terrain four cylinder with one hundred and
two thousand miles. Well satisfied with a vehicle. I noticed
the dark old weather. I'm getting more moisture out the
tailpipe than usual, a little more. And with this moisture
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I get the tailpipe is black inside and I get
black stains with this moisture on the driveway, and this
is a concern about the dirt on the garage floor.
I checked the check the oil level to see maybe
I got a head gasket or checked the I checked
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the oil and I checked the anny freeze, the anti
freezer right up to par and the oil don't show
no signs of coffee stain or being higher than the
dipstick level.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, I mean you're gonna get a little bit more
moisture in the exhaust because of the cold and because
of the temperatures.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
The black soot that you're seeing is that's carbon.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
That's just you know, a byproduct of the exhaust itself. Now,
what I will tell you is, yes, the GMC terrains
most vehicles nowadays, and TERRAINUS is a pretty big one.
They will over time start using a little bit of oil.
Now when I say a little bit, I'm not talking
like you're having to add it or whatnot. But it
could be a byproduct of the vehicle using oil and
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that's why you're getting that that little bit of that
carbon or that that that that soot that build up. Now,
I don't it has nothing to do with well, you
may be seeing it because of the cold and the
moisture that's coming out the exhaust. But you know, in
the summer months, you don't see it because it's it's
hot out right, But it's just.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
That carbon and it's the oil.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
But it's the byproduct of the vehicle probably most likely
using a little bit of oil and again some carbon
build up, and with the moisture in the in the cold,
you're you're gonna see it dripping on the ground. I
don't think there's you don't have anything going on wrong
with the vehicle. I would do what you're continuing to
do is make sure that you're checking the oil. But
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I don't think that there's any cause for alarm. It's
very common and we see it quite a bit, so
I think you're perfectly fine.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I don't think there's anything to be concerned about.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Well, what can you get those stains off the garage
floor with? Do you have anything used in the garage
that you clean these things?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
You know, I would try there's some there's a lot
of products out there, but I would just try a
little bit of don in hot water.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
One more quick questions or I want the dealer And
I had the anti freeze changed in October the next school.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, I had it.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Changed and he said I needed a water pump back
in October. Okay, sir, sure the water pump is not leaking.
There's no noise.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
On my heat temperature age is normal.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Well, George, I gotta go. I'm up against the clock here.
But George, uh, if you're not seeing anything, it's not
using it, then I wouldn't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
I really wouldn't. So, Robin, I apologize that I could
not get to you. Please call back next Saturday. I'll
you call first. First thing.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
I'll take care of your car question. So thank you
everybody having a great weekend. I'll be back next Saturday
to answer all of your car questions. You're listening to
the Car Show on fifty five krc D talk station.
The Chevy to the litty. So good afternoon and welcome
to the car show.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I am Dame Donovan taking all of your car questions
and I'm going to call five one three seven number
again five one three seven nine fifty five hundred. I
hope everybody is enjoying this wonderful weather we're having, right,
you know what, we have to keep chucking on and
we have to keep our cars rocking and rolling and
ready to go and make sure that it's ready for
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this weather. And you know I let up to this
back in November and December. Right, it is something that
we have to make sure that our cars are ready
and prepared for whatever Mother Nature brings us.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Right, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Man, we are busy, busy because there's a lot of
things that break. Batteries, starters, alternators, I mean, you name it.
A lot of things break. And we have been very blessed,
but very busy at Donovan Tyre. And again you can
go to Donovantyre dot com find your nearest location.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
We have three.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
We've got one we have one in blue Ash, one
plus Ridge and our newest location and just outside of Norwood.
It's it's technically Evanston. But I mean when I say
outside of Nord, I'm talking a set of train tracks,
set of train tracks sets us apart from Norwood to Evanston.
So but it's at the corner of Data and Montgomery,
right there by Xavier University. So if you know where
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Xavier is, we are close by. So again I'm taking
your phone calls and we call five one, three, seven,
four nine. But I do want to talk about and
again what I want to talk about. And I've talked
about this before on the show. And uh, great customer
came in yesterday. She bought a brand new Ford Bronco. Right,
and she came in and she goes, Dan, I just
(01:55):
bought this car, said man, looks great. And she goes
hands me this panther and says, hey, they want me
to buy this warranty for the car, and what are
your thoughts. So I looked at it, and I'm like, Okay,
this is an aftermarket warranty. Okay, most of you who
listen regularly, I am completely against these things. And I
(02:17):
felt that I needed to talk about it again and
reiterate to people.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I recently had the opportunity to buy a new vehicle myself,
first one and I'm forty years old, first one I've
ever purchased, forty years of my life, first new car
I ever purchased. It's a Ford, and again, very blessed
and grateful that I got that opportunity. And when I
was purchasing it, I asked if there was any type
of extended factory warranty. Now, this is important. Extended factory warranty.
(02:47):
Listen to me here. It's very important if you're purchasing
a new vehicle and you do want to have added
protection because these cars, again you say, I mean most
of your cars are you know, if you buy an
suv or a truck or whatnot. I mean these things
are starting fifty sixty, seventy eighty thousand, you know, I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Some of them are one hundred thousand.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Right, you want to make sure that you protect when
I say investment, I understand it's a depreciating asset, but
you want to protect it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You want to make sure that if all these vehicles
nowadays have all these electronics, they've got all this technology,
and that's great and a lot of it saves lives,
but it comes at a cost of a cost that
if it fails.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Or breaks, it's going to cost you a lot of money. Right.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
So, if you're in the market to buy a new vehicle, okay,
a new vehicle, ask your salesperson if there is an
extended factory warranty. Okay, I asked my salesman. I said, hey,
do you have an extended factor warranty? And guess what
they do? So, when I purchased my Ford, it was
a you know, the standard across the board for all
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makes and models is, except for Hyundai in Kia, three
years thirty six thousand miles. Okay, three years thirty six
thousand miles. Now that's great, but you know, we tend
to keep our cars longer, and this stuff gets more
and more expensive as you know, as it goes on.
So I purchased my extended factory warranty to a seven year,
(04:08):
one hundred thousand mile warranty. Now, yes, did it cost
me an additional amount of money? Yes, okay, but it
is an extended factory warranty. Okay again, let me I
want to beat this in your head. Factory warranty.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
This young lady came in, she goes, Dan, they want
me to buy this warranty and it's thirty five hundred
dollars and what are your thoughts? And I looked at it.
I said, you don't want that. Okay, that's an aftermarket warranty.
And she's like, well, you know it's going to cover
this this, it's it's I'm covered at h I think
it was ten years, one hundred and fifty thousand miles
and and.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
You know it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
You know, it's thirty five hundred bucks. And I said listen,
and she agreed with me, and she was she was like, hey,
I'm here to listen to what you have to say.
And you know, these after market warranties are garbage.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Okay, they are a waste of your money. Please. You
know they want to sell it to you.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And yes, it seems like it's just just this great
thing and you're gonna be covered.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I can tell you first handedly that what I see
that they what these warranty companies do to people. Okay,
First of all, they do not cover any type of diagnostic.
They do not cover shop supply fees, they do not
cover any type of diet. Well, I said diagnostic, but
they do not cover diagnostic. They don't cover they'll only
cover certain amounts, so dependent upon the warranty company. Right,
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So if you go to a shop that's their labor
rates one hundred and twenty five dollars an hour, well,
your your aftermark warrants company goes, oh, we'll only pay
seventy five, right, and so you end up, really, you
end up paying for these repairs. Anyways. You might get
a little bit off of it, but you don't. They don't,
you know, they want to present this as like this
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is just this great thing and you're gonna be covered.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
You're not.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And I've seen it time and time again. You know,
these people buy these these aftermarket warranties and they really
don't cover anything. And I used to say that it
was kind of like catastrophic, right. It was like, oh,
you know, if your engine fails, right, but I have
a great customer, great customer Honda Pilot purchases it, pays
I think five thousand dollars for this after market warranty
(06:20):
and purchases it and loan behold it's a Honda great product.
Engine fails. Okay, Now, if you open up this little
pamphlet that's covered, engine is covered, it says that, right,
So I call the warranty company, and they say, well, yeah,
the engine's covered, but we're going to send our technician
out to look at the vehicle, all right, So now
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we're waiting three or four days before they send their
technician out basically to verify that what I said it needed.
That's what their technician said. So now they don't give
you any type of loan or car or anything like that.
So now you're waiting three or four days. Now what
they tell me is okay, yep, engine's locked up, but
we need you to tear that engine apart and find
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out exactly what caused the failure inside the engine.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Oh and by the way, we're not going to cover
you to tear that engine down and find out exactly
what's going to cause the engine. You know, we're not
gonna cover that. The customer needs to pay for that.
So now the customer's on the hook for about you know,
two three thousand dollars for me to take that engine out,
tear it apart, and find exactly what part in that
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engine failed.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Okay. Now, I explained to the.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Warranting com I said, well, what if I tear it
all apart, I can't find exactly what part failed, Like, well,
then we won't cover anything. And to me, that was
completely dishonest. And I'm like, so, I'm like, you want
the customer to pay three thousand dollars for me to
tear that engine out, tear it apart, find what failed,
and if I can't find anything that failed in the
customer not only has paid three thousand, but then he
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has to pay another ten thousand for an engine. Yes,
And that that was the last straw for me that
led me to was like just never again am I
gonna ever recommend an aftermarket warranty company because this gentleman
in the literature says that the engine was covered, and
what they did to this gentleman again, to me, was
(08:13):
was criminal. So I wanted to again reiterate, if you're
buying a new car, please ask if they have an
extended factory warranty. If not, do not buy any type
of aftermarket warranty. Okay, it's a waste of your money.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Take that.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
If it's thirty five this young lady that was at
the shop yesterday, it's thirty five hundred, do take that money.
Put it in stock market, right, you're gonna earn, hopefully,
five to eight percent on it. So please don't buy
an aftermarket warranty. If anybody out there has have I
seen in the past that somebody does have one and
it's covered some of their costs. Yes, okay, you see
(08:51):
them on the commer, on the on the TV all
the time. I'm bombarded with him. I see them all
the time, you know, on social media, on TV or whatnot,
and you know, my blood pressure starts to raise because
from my perspective, what I see, what they do to
people is criminal, and I just I just don't recommend them.
So if you're again, if you're buying one, please don't
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buy an aftermarket warranty. Just take the money and put
it in the stock market and or invested in something,
and you know you're better off.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Okay, So all right, the.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Number to call five on three seven fifty fire that number.
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Speaker 3 (09:32):
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It's convenient to both Cincinnati and Date.
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doing the job right and getting your vehicle back on
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Speaker 2 (10:06):
Welcome back taking your car question the number to call
five one, three, seven four nine fifty five. The phones
are lightnut, so I really do appreciate it. I want
to get to everybody's phone calls. Uh again, I am
Dane Donovan Donovan's Auto entire Center.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
So let's go to the phones. We have Paul, Hey, Paul,
welcome to the car show. How can I help? Hey?
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Dan, Well, I talked to you a month or so ago.
I was kind of disassemble an engine and the pistons
were stuck.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I remember that.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Yeah, I managed to get the other two out, so
the other three whatever, So I'm just following up. I
got to wind up having to go forty over on
the on the cylinders to clean them up. Uh maybe
maybe more more involved in it. And it is practical
at this for a pounds, So that's for you. Over
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on those got to take ten off the journals to
clean them up. I got to set of pistons and
bearings and everything to put it back together without the
junk yard this morning picking up cam shafts to the
couple of the lobes were kind of spaulled on on
the ones that were in the engine.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Mm hmmm. So uh where did you get the pistons
at did you buy new pistons?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, new pistons, okay, all right, so you got new pistons,
but you said you're putting bearings okay, and you got
all that new yeah okay. But the cams you said
you you got used cams.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Yeah, the ones that were like I said, the ones
that were in it had each had one lobe that
was starting to spall uh huh, which they had a
which they had a problem in the early years of
the element engines like that. So I use the same
cams and some of the cord engines. So I found
a found in the cord with a nice looking set.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Okay, what about uh, what about the timing chain and
guides are you are you.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Putting I'm gonna put I'm gonna put.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
News in Okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I was gonna say, if you're if you're going in
there doing what I call like it's kind of like
open heart surgery on a on an engine like that.
You want to make sure you put new guys, new tensioner, uh,
new chain.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You want to make sure that you don't have to
go back in there again.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Yeah, yeah, and debating, I'll proy try and check the
clearances on the oil pump. And I don't know whether
I want to go to the extent of putting a new.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Pump in it, but yeah, I mean I I I've
never seen a I've never seen a Honda pump oil
pump fail, So I think you'd be all right there.
But I would definitely make sure you do the You're
gonna go to the length of what you're doing to
save yourself some money to make sure you get like
a timing chain kit, right, so it has everything in it,
because if you buy everything individually, it's gonna be pretty costly.
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And since you're doing since you're you know, doing it yourself,
just buy a kit and just replace it all that way.
You're you're good and golden.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
All right, all right, Paul, Well, thank you for the call.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
You have a great weekend. Call me up with the
follow up. I want I want to hear this thing running,
all right.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Okay, all right, well you take care of have a
great day.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
All right, let's go back to the phones. We've got Rich. Hey, Rich,
welcome to the car show. How can I help?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Thanks. I'm looking for a huge car, and I want
to get something that's both reliable and durable, and I'm
not afraid of older cars the fact I prefer them.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, I would agree with you on that.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
What's your opinion on the Panther platform for cars? You
said the Pound, Vict Crown, Vix and Grand Marquees and oh.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Man, if you can get one and find one, I'd
buy it all day long. I think in my opinion
that was probably, in my opinion, that was probably the
best car for what ever made. Yeah, I mean those things,
I've never I've never ever seen anybody kill one of
those things. Never. I mean you can't. They're like they're
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like they are their tanks. I mean, they are almost indestructible.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
I've seen a lot of good, good things on them.
What about you know one thing I'm looking at. Of
course they're going to be older because they stopped making
them what fourteen years ago. And I know I sometimes
have a problem with cars that are older, not necessarily
high mile age, but because I know time is an
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enemy of parts as much or not as much. But
you know, in addition to where how old is too old?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
You know what, that's a great question. And I'm not
worried about age. What I'm worried about is where it's
been most of his life. So yeah, if you're buying
a I mean, if you could find a two thousand
and eight Crown Vic that was spend its entire life
up in New York, I'd be like, run, I don't
care if it has five thousand miles on it, if
it's been sitting outside in New York, been driving, get
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away from it.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Run.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You got a Crown Vic that's it's an O eight
Crown Vic, that it has one hundred and fifty thousand
miles and it's been down south, you know, Texas.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Florida, Georgia, Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Something like that, I'd be more inclined to buy a
car that's down there. So really it's it's conditions that
I'm not worried about age.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I'm not worried about mileage.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
It's the conditions of the vehicle where it's spent most
of its life.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
So you know, if you've got a car that's been
sitting outside its entire life, I wouldn't recommend probably buying it,
And if you do, you make sure that you get
it inspected before you buy it, because I've just seen
so a lot of cars and I this happens all
the time. I can get a car and look at it,
do a used car inspection on it, get it and
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it's just covered in russ and it's like, man on
the outside, look great. Right, you get up in the air,
it's a whole another story, and I'm like, I guarantee
this car came from.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Come up from up north.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
So what they do is like all those cars up
in New York, Pennsylvania, you know, all those cars up north,
they ship them down here and they're just a rusted bucket,
just a mess.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
So again, I'm not necessarily worried about age.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I mean, I would probably say anything two thousand and up,
you'll be.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
All right, okay.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
And one of the things that I see a lot
on especially the Crown well with the Crown Vics as
opposed to the Grand Marquis, is that the police in versions.
I don't know, that kind of scares me a little
bit because they sit in idol so much. Yeah, is
that a concern or not?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
No, I mean it's a little bit of a concern.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I mean if you buy you know, if you buy
an old police cruiser that, yes, it does have a
lot of idle hours. And what you see because I
mean even like like up in uh you know, a
lot of cab drivers years ago had those things right,
and you'd see them like smoke and burn a little
bit oil because of the rings. But man, I tell
you what, I've never ever seen one fail. If you
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can get one that doesn't have a lot of idle hours,
and you can look at that on the most of
the time, if it's new or if it's like an
eight to that you know, I can't remember exactly what
year they quit making the Crown Vic. I wish they
never would have stopped. I wish they would have never stopped. Man,
that car was. That was phenomenal vehicle.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
And I love the rear drive. I mean, there's a
lot to love about those old cars.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, but again, idol hours don't necessarily scare me too
much as well. You know a lot of those cruisers
have you know, one hundred thousand miles on them, and yeah,
they have a lot of idle hours, but it still
doesn't well.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
That's correct, Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, just do.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
What I would tell you is the best advice I
can give you is just whatever, when you find one,
make sure again you find out where it came from, right,
if it came from northern States or what we call
the Ross Belt. Right, even Ohio is not as bad
as like Pennsylvania, Michigan, uh, you know, New York or whatnot.
Find out where it came from, where it originated, and
find out about it. I mean, if you buy one
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for them, I would probably say from Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee,
Georgia and farther down south probably the better. But just
make sure that when you find one, you just get
it inspected by a mechanic. And you know, sometimes you
might find hey, Dane, I found one in you know,
southern California. We'll find a rebutle shop down there and
have it inspected before you boy the thing.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
That's all I ask. And just make sure that.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Yeah, I've got one that I found in northern Georgia. Okay,
that looks like a pretty nice car. There you go,
love fairly love mile agent. The prices at a liar
than I want to pay, but it might it might
not scare me off, but it.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Might be it might be worth it because if it's
been spending, if it's been in Georgia most of its life,
and there's probably not any rust in it.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Yeah, what about what about cars here locally around? Now
I'm in northern Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Uh, cars locally here or find Northern Kentucky, Cincinnati, you know, Dayton, Indiana.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
You'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
There might be a dealership in Cincinnati that has a
Crown vic Right dealership, but that car may have came
from New York. So you just want to make sure
you checked spend the money.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Some dealerships don't.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, get the car fax, find out where it came from,
what it originated at, and look at the vehicle history
on it and make sure that. I mean, if it's
spent most of its time in Cincinnati, Northern Kentucky, Indiana,
you're fine. But if it's been shipped from Michigan or
Pennsylvania or something like that.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I would steer clear.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Okay, all right, thanks love, all right, thank.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
You, all right, take care, have a great weekend.
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Speaker 2 (20:22):
Welcome back here listening to the car Show on fifty
five KRC, the talk station. I got to get back
to the phones immediately because the phones are lighting up
and I really want to get to everybody's question.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
So let's go to the phones. We have Greg. Hey, Greg,
welcome to the car show. How can I help?
Speaker 7 (20:35):
Oh, I've got a twenty twenty one Kia K five,
And I don't know if you're familiar with the oil
filter and the the plastic cup that holds it on
the bottom, and the drain plug that it also has.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Should be pretty similar to most of what they have,
but it's the you said, the K five, Yes, okay,
what's going on with it?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
You got? Are you having problems with it?
Speaker 7 (21:01):
I've got fifty five thousand miles and I changed oil
every five thousand miles, and I changed it about twenty
four hundred miles ago, and this morning there was oil
on my driveway. Okay, so I changed the filter out again.
I guess an O ring. There's an O ring on
the cup and an O ring in that drain blood.
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But the whole apparatus seems ridiculously Chinsey.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, welcome the new Welcome to the car market.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
So I don't know if if it makes a difference
who I buy the oil filters from.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You know, I mean or no, well, no necessarily.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I mean, did you see the oil Was it coming
out of that plastic cap or coming out from that
O ring?
Speaker 7 (21:52):
It looked like it was coming out of the cap
more at the top rather than the drain plug because
it was wet up high.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Okay, are you talking about that little plug at the.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Top, the drain plug at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
You're talking on the oil pan.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Yeah, the pasty cups down below. There's a like a
twenty two millimeter wrench.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Right to get that for the oil filter, yep.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Yeah, And there's like a pin that goes in with
a T shape and you put it up in and
then twist it and lock it, and I guess it
keeps the filter from turning inside there. I don't know,
but but it seems like more like it's just a
drain to drain the cup, so when you take it off,
you don't get drenched with oil, right, you do anyway,
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So it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
It doesn't matter is your oil filter housing is it
above like underneath the hood or is it underneath the vehicle?
Speaker 7 (22:44):
It's on the bottom underneath the vehicle, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
And you said you replace the filter and the O
ring and it seemed to be coming from that that
ring from the cap.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Right, But it was bone dry for twenty four hundred miles.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
You know that.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
You know that little O rings rubber, right, and you
know with heat and whatnot and things expand and contract.
Where did you get the filter from? I think was
as you know, I do see is it was it
like their house brand or whatnot?
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Probably I didn't ask, just right. They're hard to find it.
It's like a special order and sometimes they don't come
in and just and you're.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
And you're doing the oil change yourself, correct, right, I
mean yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
A lot of.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Times what we see is two things. One, I mean
the cap itself and the housing. I'm sure it's perfectly fine.
Two things.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
What we see is a lot of times when you
go to tighten it.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Up, that little O ring will get a cut in it,
a small cut or you can tear it.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I mean it's happened to us.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I mean, my guys do these things all day long,
and they'll put one in and they.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Just go to tighten it up like they're supposed to.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
And when tightening it, they it rips and we'll cause
a leak. I would type of I mean, I would
recommend if you're gonna, if you're doing it yourself, I
would just probably get the filter from Kiah. The rubber
comes with new O rings, correct, Yeah, I mean, I
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you know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I don't necessarily.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I'm not opposed to buying aftermarket, but typically it depends
on what you're buying. But aftermarket, typically the quality is
not as good as the dealer. That rubber gasket that
you put in there probably just it's probably just the
qualities is probably not there.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I mean, it happens to us.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
But did you end up getting the same oil filter
or did you buy a different brand this time?
Speaker 7 (24:40):
Yeah? I got the same one. I put it in
and drove from Anderson Township to Montgomery and it doesn't
leak a drop.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Okay yet, did you Yeah, did you inspect the old
ring the old ring, just to see.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
If there's any type of tear?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I mean, I mean we're talking about not even like
it doesn't have to be completely cutting, like completely torn.
I mean you can have a hairline crack in those
things and or just throw it away.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
Yeah, I mean I saved it, but I'll look more
closely at it. I thought I saw like a sliver
of some sort. So what you're saying is probably exactly right.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I mean, it doesn't take much.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
And again a lot of times there might not be
anything wrong with that gasket. And then just when you
go to tighten it up. What I would recommend when
you do so when you put that new OH ring on,
do you take some of the old oil and just
kind of run your run your finger over that ring.
Speaker 9 (25:36):
I use the new oil, but but I do do that, yeah,
because I mean that would prevent too from anything tearing,
possibly because basically you're lubricating that gasket just to make
sure that when you're tightening it down it doesn't get
a tear.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
So but I have seen listen, we put on, you know,
hundreds of filters a week, and yeah, I mean every
once in a while you get man, maybe a manufacturer
defect or they go to put it on. The technician
didn't do anything wrong, and it just it tears when
they tighten it up, and you know, people calling like, hey, uh,
I got an old leak. Now after you guys changed
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my oil and come back, and sure enough, there's there's
a little hairline cut or tear in that O ring.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
So it happens, and.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
It's just surprised it took twenty four hundred miles for
it to begin leaking.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Well, and again, I mean it could be a little
bit of uh, the the rubber O ring, the quality
of the product. Right, just from getting hot cold, hot
cold as cold as it's been, right, that thing swells
and then it gets So it could be a little
bit of the weather factor too, because you know, is
it really made out of rubber or some type of
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synthetic you.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
Know, So, yeah, there's there's a lot of expansion and
contraction going on.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
So and again, I mean, you know again, I mean
I've I've had people like, you know, we put a
we changed our oil, and they don't have a single problem,
and then five thousand miles later the oil filter's leaking, Right,
wasn't leaking before it went five thousand miles and then
it started leaking. So it happens. I don't think there's
any I don't think there's any concern. Just make sure
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you keep your eye on it. And yeah, just keep
your eye on it. And if you can buy the
one from Kiya, I know it's gonna be a little
bit more. But you know, if you're doing it yourself,
you're already And I've always been a big proponent of this,
if you're doing it yourself, spend the money on the
on the on the the good filter and and by
by I've said this a ton of times on the show.
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If you're doing your own car repair, which I there's
a lot of people out there that can do this
stuff right, And if you're working on your own car,
you're already saving yourself a tremendous amount of money. Right,
So I've always said that if you're gonna do it yourself,
please buy a quality part. I'm not knocking aftermarket parts
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or whatnot, but.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
If you're already doing it, you're already saving yourself a
ton of money. Buy a good, quest quality part.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
It really does make a difference, makes a difference, and
you're going to get better quality, and it's the most
likely the part's going to last longer. Okay, you know,
I could use a good analogy if you're like, hey,
you know, your doc's like, hey, we're gonna have to
go ahead and replace a you.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Know, a valve in your heart. Do you want the
cheapest one?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
You can buy, yeah, it probably lasts you about another
ten years. Or do you want to buy the more
expensive one and you know, probably live to one hundred
years old. Most of us would say, hey, give me
the good one. Right, that's a little extreme, But what
I'm saying is you're already doing the work. You're already
saving yourself the money on labor and whatnot. Buy the
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good quality part, okay, And there's an easy way to
do it. I'm not saying you have to buy it
from the dealer, but you can do a little bit
of research and find a good quality part.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
If you've got a Ford, you want to buy a motorcraft.
If you've got a GM, you want to buy ac Delco.
If you have a toy, you want to buy Denzo.
If you have a Hanah Denzo, if you have a Hyundai,
you can do Denzo as well.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So you just want to make sure that you're buying
a good quality part if you're doing the work yourself.
And again I applaud you great job for doing that,
and a lot of people do like doing it.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
You know, it's a Saturday for today, it's forty degrees out.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
It feels like a you know, nice spring day, but
you want to make sure that you not having to
go back in there and do it again right. So
coming up, we have Joel, George, Robin Jerry. You're listening
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Speaker 1 (30:02):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Taking your car questions and here every Saturday to answer
all of them. I am Dean Donovan from Donovan's Auto
entire Center. Let's get back to the phones.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
We have Joel. Hey, Joel, welcome to the car Show.
How can it help Hello?
Speaker 8 (30:15):
I have a twenty thirteen Camray with a one hundred
and fifty six thousand miles on it, and when I
bought it, I'm sure it road better. I wouldn't have
bought it. And it's an SE, So I think it
has a stiffer suspension, Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I don't think the LED.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
I haven't got an answer from the Toyota dealer. Again.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
No, I don't think the SE or the ELI are
going to have a different suspension.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
It should be the same.
Speaker 8 (30:45):
Oh well, maybe stiffer roll bars the sway bars. Yeah,
but that doesn't help the ride anyway. It seems like
the ride is getting stiffer and stiffer all the time.
Maybe it's because I'm getting older and but non, that's
not that funny. But I'm just wondering shocks. I see
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them go bad and then there's just going crazy there's
no shock available, and then but mine or stiff.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Typically when you when a when a shock or a
strut is going bad, you typically will have a bouncy ride, right,
not a stiff ride, but like a really really bouncing Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
I've seen them. Yeah, Okay, I understand how it works
and everything, And they should have not called them shock
absorbers in the first place.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
They should have.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
Called them spring damp the nurse.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
Yeah, but that's what they are.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
That's what they are. You're right, it's a lot of there's.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
A lot of confusion beginning.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, there's a lot of confusion too, because there's there's
shocks and then their struts, and it's like, what's the
difference and shocks don't have a spring around them.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Struts due and yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I mean, if you have one hundred and fifty thousand miles,
I think it would be a good idea to replace them.
Now when I say that, though it's very expensive, is
this something that you would do yourself or would you
take it to a mechanic?
Speaker 8 (32:11):
Oh? No, I probably won't even do either one right now?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Okay, yeah, because I mean it's probably God, it's probably
twenty it's probably about two grand, twenty two hundred dollars
to put all new struts on that that camera.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
No, I appreciate that information. I'll tell my wife and
she'll say, no, I won't get it done. I won't
get it done.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
All right.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I mean, if it's a stiff ride, could just be
like you said, maybe you personally, maybe you just feel
like it's riding stiffer. But typically when a shock or
a strut is worn out, you're gonna get a bouncy ride. Right,
You're gonna go over bump and the whole thing's just
kind of bouncing. But man, at one hundred and fifty
thousand miles, it would be a good idea to do it.
But if they're not blown out, I'd have it inspected
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by a mechanic if the if the strut itself is
not physically leaking any fluid, that I wouldn't worry about it.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
Yeah, well, no it's not okay, I can't get under
it to look, but okay, all right, I'm taking enough time.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
All right, Joel, thank you, you have a great day.
All right, let's go back to the phones we have George. Hey, George,
welcome to the car show. How can I help?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Thank you for taking my call, Sir. I have a
twenty fifteen gmc Terrain four cylinder with one hundred and
two thousand miles. Well satisfied with a vehicle. I noticed
the dark old weather. I'm getting more moisture out the
tailpipe than usual, a little more. And with this moisture
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I get the tailpipe is black inside and I get
black stains with this moisture on the driveway, and this
is a concern about the dirt on the garage floor.
I checked the check the oil level to see maybe
I got a head gasket or checked the I checked
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the oil and I checked the anny freeze, the anti
freezer right up to par and the oil don't show
no signs of coffee stain or being higher than the
dipstick level.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, I mean you're gonna get a little bit more
moisture in the exhaust because of the cold and because
of the temperatures.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
The black soot that you're seeing is that's carbon.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
That's just you know, a byproduct of the exhaust itself. Now,
what I will tell you is, yes, the GMC terrains
most vehicles nowadays, and TERRAINUS is a pretty big one.
They will over time start using a little bit of oil.
Now when I say a little bit, I'm not talking
like you're having to add it or whatnot. But it
could be a byproduct of the vehicle using oil and
(34:46):
that's why you're getting that that little bit of that
carbon or that that that that soot that build up. Now,
I don't it has nothing to do with well, you
may be seeing it because of the cold and the
moisture that's coming out the exhaust. But you know, in
the summer months, you don't see it because it's it's
hot out right, But it's just.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
That carbon and it's the oil.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
But it's the byproduct of the vehicle probably most likely
using a little bit of oil and again some carbon
build up, and with the moisture in the in the cold,
you're you're gonna see it dripping on the ground. I
don't think there's you don't have anything going on wrong
with the vehicle. I would do what you're continuing to
do is make sure that you're checking the oil. But
(35:33):
I don't think that there's any cause for alarm. It's
very common and we see it quite a bit, so
I think you're perfectly fine.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I don't think there's anything to be concerned about.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Well, what can you get those stains off the garage
floor with? Do you have anything used in the garage
that you clean these things?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
You know, I would try there's some there's a lot
of products out there, but I would just try a
little bit of don in hot water.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
One more quick questions or I want the dealer And
I had the anti freeze changed in October the next school.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, I had it.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Changed and he said I needed a water pump back
in October. Okay, sir, sure the water pump is not leaking.
There's no noise.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
On my heat temperature age is normal.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Well, George, I gotta go. I'm up against the clock here.
But George, uh, if you're not seeing anything, it's not
using it, then I wouldn't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
I really wouldn't. So, Robin, I apologize that I could
not get to you. Please call back next Saturday. I'll
you call first. First thing.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
I'll take care of your car question. So thank you
everybody having a great weekend. I'll be back next Saturday
to answer all of your car questions. You're listening to
the Car Show on fifty five krc D talk station.
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