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Speaker 1 (00:03):
She's re'll find my phone.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the car show on fifty
five KRC Detalk station.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
I'm Dane Donovan taking all of your car questions. The
number to call five one three seven four nine fifty
five hundred. That number again, five one three seven fifty
five hundred. Phone lines are wide open. And it's a
gorgeous Saturday. But uh again, if you're in the Cincinnati area,
here comes the heat. Uh I just uh, I just

(00:50):
left my son's football game, which may I tell you what.
They're on turf and uh man, I don't know if
it's just because I'm getting old or what, but that
heat is just coming off that that turf. It's just
not the same as the grass. I mean, it's just brutal.
So uh but yeah, so he was doing well. So
we're we're into the football season. We had July where

(01:13):
we didn't have anything going on. Baseball ended, and we
had one month of no sports. And now the boys
are getting you know, getting ready and geared up for
school and uh, I mean none of ours are driving yet.
But that's where I want to lead to, is that
you know, we some of for some of you that
are listening to the show. You have your kids that

(01:35):
are going back to college or going back to school.
You know, they might be in high school and they
are going to start driving their cars back and forth.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
You know, we need to start thinking about that.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yes, it is hot, but it's something that you need
to put in the back of your mind that you know, hey, listen,
especially if.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
They're out of town, right.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
You know, with our newer shop, auto Form, we're right
across the street from Xavier University, and we get a
lot of students that you know, they're there, parents are
there from all over the country, right, and their car
breaks down and they need a repair shop, and uh
it's it's not a good feeling, right, So you're looking
up a shop and you got to so before they leave,

(02:15):
now's the time to start thinking about getting them geared
up and ready for school or college. And again, even
if you're here locally and your your son or daughter
is driving back and forth to school, you need to
make sure it's ready to go. And uh so, but
it's it's it's rapidly approaching. Our boys start.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
On the nineteen, so in ten days.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
So my wife's uh, my wife's a static. She's screaming
and ready to get them back to school.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
So it's nice to have that little bit of time.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
So all right, again the number to call five one
three seven four nine fifty five hundred. That number again,
five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred. I
do apologize. I am a bit tired. We've my wife
and I have gone to that the v o A,
the Voice of America Concert, and I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
If you live in the Tri State area, man, what
what an event?

Speaker 4 (03:15):
And uh again I'm not paid or endorsed by them
or anything like that, but we went and man, what
is just an awesome venue.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
They do a phenomenal job. Darius Rutgers played.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
On on on Thursday and then last night was Carrie Underwood.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
But it was so nice. It was easy to get in.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Out of and uh, you know, you hear so many
negative things about you know, venues and whatnot. I just
wanted to put out there that they do it. They
do a great job. And if there there's a they
have it tonight and Sunday as well, so if you're
in the area, you can't go online and buy tickets.

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But man, it was it was so nice. Everybody just man,
I they do a great job as phenomenal. So but
we were out till about one o'clock in the morning,
so it was I need to take a nap. So
I'm getting old, you know, I'm forty now, so I
can't stay up that late anymore. So all right again,
taking your phone calls and I'm gonna call five one, three, seven,

(04:18):
fifty five hundred. We've got Carrie. Hey, Carrie, welcome to
the car show. How can I help.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Carry there? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (04:28):
Yeah, dad, Yeah, how.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Can I help?

Speaker 5 (04:30):
Yeah? I good. Hey, this is Terry. She had calling. Hey,
I'm I'm might.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Need some Harry. So Terry, it's Terry.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Well it just popped up as Carrie.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I apologize. So no, how are you? I'm all right.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
Did I have a real trouble with my Hyundai Santa
Fe and dealing with Columbia Hyundai.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Okay, my car's.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Been burning oil up to a court and a half
one time within six hundred mi. Else Oh they've done
I've done two consumption tests, which led them to say, okay,
now we're going to do a combustioned cleaning, but I'm
still burning a court of oil at a thousand miles.

(05:17):
Their position is it is normal for cars to burn
a court of oil in a thousand miles, and I
find that I don't believe it.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
You know, you bring up a great point, and it's
something that I harp about on this show all the time.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
No, it's so hear me out on this.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
So in today's the way that cars are designed and
built today, yes, that's normal. However, I agree with you
it is not acceptable that a vehicle has to go
through that much oil. And it's all because of emissions
and how they're designed now. Again were I was talking

(06:00):
about this actually last night. You know, it's kind of
planned Off's lessons these vehicles, and that's why I talk
about her all the time on the show, about making
sure that you're checking your oil because again, the standard
today is that yeah, oh yeah, it's normal for it
to burn a quarter oil. Now you go back, I
don't know ten years and the cars didn't burn oil

(06:22):
like they do today, and I would agree with you.
I agree with them that, yes, just about every year
making model nowadays burns oil.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Is it acceptable?

Speaker 4 (06:33):
No?

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Should they be doing that?

Speaker 4 (06:35):
No?

Speaker 5 (06:37):
You know, the way I understand the Hyundaid deal is
when they worked with the original engine. There was sand
in the engine and that's the major cause of the
oil burning. They casted the engine in Korea. Yeah, that's

(06:57):
what I hear. Yeah, the problem is the folks there
are just the last time it was they were just
so rude, telling me, yeah, just deal with it. It's
a thousand miles breadcourt. So I think there's a class
action suit. Have you heard that?

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeahdai's, Hyundai and Kia has been going through a class
action lawsuit for a while on their on their particular engines.
I mean, I mean just two years ago I had
one that locked up and called and they were number
they were like number ninety nine or one hundred of
engines that need to be replaced. And so yes, there

(07:38):
is a class action lawsuit basically. And what I've been
led to believe, and how I've been told when I
call that any dealer, not just one particular, but just
any dealer, is hey, look they do the old consumption test,
but once it locks up, then we'll cover it up
until that point they won't.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
Now, let's see, that's ridiculous. I agree, they have to
drive a car until it locked up.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
You know.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
The thing I said to him when I've I've been
with them at least three times, it's maybe four. So
I asked me, I said, would you sell a car
to somebody and go, hey, by the way, you're going
to burn a corn of oil every thousand miles. They're
never going to do that. Well, I mean, if anybody

(08:25):
calls in and says, yeah, here's my experience, I do
have a case pending with corporate Hyundai, but that's just
jumping through more hoops.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Really, right, man, I get it. No, I get it. No,
I appreciate it. I appreciate it, and you know.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
I'm just disappointed the rudeness. I just couldn't believe it.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, well, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
I've got I've got four cars there and I don't
have any other resource and to try to let people
know here's what happens.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, well, I appreciate your phone call, and uh, I'm
sorry you're having to go through that, and uh, continue
to listen and we're gonna it's an issue, certainly. That's
that's why I've you know, I get Terry, Uh, his
his concern and problem, and we can continue to talk

(09:21):
about it. But it's something that in fact, my wife's well, actually.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
You know what stay tuned. We'll continue this conversation.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
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Speaker 4 (10:30):
Welcome back, taking your car questions again, the number to
call five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred.
That number game five one three seven four nine fifty
five hundred. I am Dane Donovan from Donovan's Auto Entire Center.
If you're in the Tri State area here in Cincinnati,
you can check us out and donovantire dot com find

(10:52):
your nearest location. Love to help you out in any way,
shape or form that we can. Unfortunately, we do not
do any body so paint damage, you know, collision, anything
like that. It's a it's amazing how many people run
into me go oh, hey, you know I've got I've
got some uh you know, hood damage or fender damage.

(11:13):
It's like, unfortunately I didn't uh, I don't do that.
In fact, have a newer truck and had a great customer.
He's a very nice guy, but uh hit my truck,
didn't realize it and put a big old dent in
both of his doors. So it happens our lot. If
you're familiar with any of our locations, our lots are

(11:35):
always full, they always have tons of cars in them,
and they're always kind of tight. And he was just
trying to get out of a spot and kind of
backed into it. So it happens. But again real quick
to go back to Terry's question, uh, talking about oil
and oil consumption. I was telling my producer Danny here

(11:56):
he you know, he understands, he knows. But the thing
is is my wife's aunt call me. She lives in Chicago.
She says, hey, Dane, I have a Toyota rave for
it's about you know, it's it's like a two thousand
and nine or whatnot. Anyways, Dan, it's using a lot
of oil. And I keep going to the dealership and

(12:18):
they're saying its oide of oil. So I want to
buy a new car or a newer car, right, not
brand new, but newer. She goes, I'm just so tired
of putting oil in it. And I said, okay, well
what are you looking at? She says, oh, I'm looking
at a newer Toyota or a hot Honda.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
I said, okay.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
I said, I just want you to know any vehicle
that you buy is gonna burn oil.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
She goes, even a newer one.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
I'm like, yeah, absolutely, these these newer cars will burn oil.
And she's like really, and I'm like yeah, Unfortunately, it
won't burn as much as your older Toyota is right now,
but yes, it will burn oil. And she was just like,
I can't believe you know it's going to burn oil?
Is you know a couple of years old. I'm like,

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it's going to So you have to be aware of it.
And that's why. And again I hate to harp on it.
I know I talk about it every week, but I'm
here to tell you that. Listen, if you have a
newer vehicle, you just have to make sure that you
check your oil.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
You know, again, in before eight, before the collapse of.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
The economy, oil changes need to be done every three
thousand miles. After eight, and then these car companies will
need to sell cars. They would give out free oil
changes and they would say, hey, look, change your oil
every five thousand miles. Okay, okay, you know we got

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synthetic oil. Five is okay. Now we're dealing with today's standards.
It's like, oh, oh, just once a year, every ten
thousand miles.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
You're fine. Now.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Again, I've mentioned on the show, I have a new
vehicle and the owner's manual will tell me that I
need to change it every ten thousand miles. Over my
dead body, I'm not changing it in every ten thousand.
I'm going to continue to check it and change it
every five thousand miles. If you want your car to
last one hundred, two hundred, three hundred thousand miles, all

(14:18):
you have to do this is all you have to
do is change and check your oil regularly.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
That's it. These cars will last.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Now, you might you know, you're uh, you know, your
your screen and your dash might not work, or you
might your sun roof might not operate or whatnot. But
a functioning engine and vehicle that you want to last,
to get to two or three hundred thousand miles, all
you have to do is maintain, check and change your oil.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
That's all you have to do.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
And you can bring it to any dot Ofmvan Tire
and you can say, can you just check my oil
and we'll be more than happy to check it for you.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
If you need a little bit, we can top it off.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
But that's what I want you to do in order
to prolong the life for your vehicle. It's very important
and it's very simple. And again, even if you have
an older vehicle that's ten years old or a newer vehicle,
they burnt oil, you just have to check them. It's
it's imperative, it's an important so all right again, then
I'm gonna call five one, three, seven, nine fifty five hundred.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Let's go to the phones. We have Don. Hey, Don,
welcome to the car show. How can I help?

Speaker 8 (15:22):
I have a twenty twenty three Chevy Corvette.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Huh.

Speaker 8 (15:26):
It's kind of maintenance thing on my dash It tells
me what my oil life is. Could I pay attention
to that or change it at five thousand miles?

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Great question.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
You pay attention to the sticker and you change it
when the sticker at five thousand miles do not?

Speaker 1 (15:45):
And okay? That that is. That's kind of like where
I was leading to.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
It's like everybody's like, you know, I have so many
customers that come in they have no oil in their.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Vehicle, and I'm like, hey, you don't have an oil
in your car.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Uh, we'd like to change your oil and oh no,
my car says I still have ten percent left. And
I'm like, okay, you know, and you're only doing yourself
a disservice by not changing it or making sure it's full.
But I would record highly again. I change mine every
five thousand miles. It's synthetic oil changing every five thousand.

(16:20):
Don't focus on you know, we we we become so
complacent on oh well the car says this, or the
guy that sold me the vehicle says this, or the.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Owners may No. We we have to stick to basics.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
And it's every five thousand miles and you'll you'll be
in good shape.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I promise you. And I Okay, you know it says
here you're calling. Where are you calling from?

Speaker 9 (16:45):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (16:45):
Well, actually I'm in the Illinois.

Speaker 10 (16:47):
I'm driving.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Okay, all right, I'm headed back to Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Okay, all right, well I appreciate your phone call, but uh, Illinois,
that's that's quite the quite the mission.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
But yeah, I.

Speaker 8 (17:01):
Started in Iowa.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Oh wow, So when did you start? How long does
it take to get to Iowa?

Speaker 9 (17:10):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (17:10):
Oh forever.

Speaker 11 (17:11):
I started this morning.

Speaker 8 (17:14):
Like it's eight o'clock in Boone, Iowa.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
My way back to Cincinnati.

Speaker 8 (17:19):
Now, just passed Peoria.

Speaker 9 (17:22):
Okay, holy I got another question?

Speaker 5 (17:26):
Sure you got a second?

Speaker 9 (17:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Absolutely.

Speaker 8 (17:28):
A couple of weeks ago, you mentioned the website for
junk yards and getting parts. Yeah, and I didn't write
that down.

Speaker 9 (17:37):
Could you?

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah? Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
So it's it's car Dash Part, car dash Part dot
Com and it'll search you put in your You can
either put in your venomber, which I would recommend because
it's going to be a little bit more you know specific, right,
but you for those of you who might not have
the VEN number, you put in your year making model,

(18:01):
and it will search a massive amount of junk yards
throughout the country. I mean I I've bought parts from
all over the country from there, because I mean again,
sometimes on these older vehicles you can't get the parts.
There's there's there's no options, so you have to go used.
And if you're going to use car dash Part dot
com UH is what I use every day.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
They do a phenomenal job.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
And you know, you work independently with it'll tell you
that where the junk yard is, how far away and
some junk yards, most junk yards will deliver if you're
in the Tristate area, but some junkyards you're gonna have
to have it delivered. But they've they've always done me,
done me well, and and UH I would recommend them.
So that's that there. It's a legitimate site. It's not

(18:48):
like I don't uh, I don't necessarily like eBay. I've
just I've been scammed on it before, but you're dealing directly.
So it's show a source that tells you where the
part is. You call that junkyard independently. I mean, I
had a Porsche years ago that I needed seats for

(19:09):
and I drove in the middle of nowhere, Kentucky and
uh found seats for my Porsche and you know, called
them up.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
They're like, hey, we don't deliver. You need to pick
them up.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
So I drove about an hour and a half two hours
to to go pick them up. But it's a legitimate
site and uh, I use them and uh that's yeah.

Speaker 8 (19:28):
So okay, yes, good, I need a tailgate from my
Tacoma Okay.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
That's absolutely. It'll it'll even show you like that. You know,
it'll show you the truck. It'll show you the condition
of the vehicle. Like it's not just like oh tailgate boom. No,
they'll show you a picture of the vehicle. They'll show
you that the inside, the outside. I mean, they do
a phenomenal job in my opinion, showing you the status

(19:59):
because you can and even it'll it'll it'll even give.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
You the grade of the part.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
So ABC d F Like if you're looking for a
used wheel and the wheels all scratched up. It'll tell
you what the grade of the part is. You know,
it's it's kind of C grade. It's not perfect, but
they great. They grade the parts. And like I said,
I use them pretty much every day. And uh it's
a it's a good sight.

Speaker 8 (20:22):
So okay, great, thank you a lot.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Hey, Hey, uh, safe travels back. I appreciate the phone call. Sure, thanks,
all right, take care bye bye man Iowa. I've never
been west of the Mississippi for the most part, so
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Uh, Iowa was pretty pretty far.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
So alright again, taking your phone calls and never recall
five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty five, one hundred.

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Coming up, we have Rick and Jim.

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Welcome back, taking your car questions again. The number to
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I was just telling Danny we were getting a bunch
of phone calls.

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I really do appreciate it.

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go back to the phone. We have Rick.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Hey, Rick, welcome to the car show. How can help?

Speaker 10 (23:05):
Yeah, I just wanted to comment on the oil consumption
with that guy's Hyundai. We had a similar issue with
a twenty sixteen Kia. We noticed excessive oil consumption at
eighty five thousand miles, went in for consumption test and
they miss did misread the mileage, so we had to

(23:25):
do a second consumption test and they said it's fine.
It's like we're burning a cord of oil every thousand miles.
He's like, well, that's normal. He's like, that's not normal.
So they sent us on our way and we just
kept doing it. And then it was my wife's car
and then it went into limp mode on the highway
with her. So we took it back and did a

(23:46):
third oil consumption test. And this is right around ninety
five thousand, and we were worried about the one hundred
thousand mile limit of the warranty and they're like, ah,
no problem, no problem, you know, if the dies will
replace the engine, and they just kept stringing us along.
But eventually it did die at like one hundred and
two thousand miles on the highway and they did replace

(24:07):
the engine, but it was a process.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Well, I yeah, that's and you know, here's the deal too.
And I've and I've talked about this on the show.
It's like, look that that car holds It was ay, what.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
What kind of kiya? Was it?

Speaker 10 (24:23):
A Sorrento?

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Sorrento?

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Okay, so you know that car holds probably four four
and a half courts of oil, right, and the manufacturers
and it's no, I'm not picking on Key or a
Hundai because you know, Honda, Toyota, a lot of them
are this way. But they tell you, oh, go ten
thousand miles or go when the car tells you ten
percent life left. Well, if you do the math, if

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you're if they're telling you, it's normal that that car
burns a cord to oil every thousand miles, if you
went ten thousand miles, if you do the math, there's
not any oil in the car when you need an
oil change.

Speaker 10 (24:58):
Yeah, yeah, that was the point I made. The service
manager is like, I can't even go a full oil change,
and he was kind of smarmy with it. He's like, well,
if you look in the owners man, you little say
you check the oil on every few up. It's like,
how many people do that now?

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Right? Exactly exactly?

Speaker 4 (25:15):
And that's why, you know, I know, for those of
for those people out there that are listening to me
every Saturday, and I'm like twelve Dan's talking about changing oil,
checking oil, I'm telling you, I mean and I sincerely,
I'm I'm want everybody to know that this is a
this is a massive problem. And it's it's not Hyundai
or Kia. I mean, they're part of the problem, but

(25:37):
you know, it's it's Honda, it's Toyota, it's super Rue.
They're all great manufacturers, but all of these cars are
burning oil and they tell people to go ten thousand miles.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
I mean, BMW tells you once a year.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
And you know, you burn up a timing chain on
a BMW, it's ten thousand dollars out right out of
the rep I mean it's ten thousand dollars.

Speaker 10 (26:00):
Yeah, you know, we didn't have to take it for
an oil change because our oil was getting replenished every
every week.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
I know it.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
And it's something that I just want to bring to
the to the table so that everybody understands, like this
is a massive problem, because you know, I I have
a car, and I've talked about this before, but it
used to be like every once in a while, maybe
you know, a couple of times a year. And then
it was like, oh, every Now we're seeing cars every quarter. Oh,

(26:29):
now we're seeing cars every month. Now we're seeing cars
every week. Now it's every day. Every day, I got
a car in with a with a with some type
of problem, and there's and it's it's all due to oil.
And it's just it's such a simple process. And you know,
it's not like me trying to drive people to get
their oil change. I'm just you want to get I
want everybody to listen to me and protect their vehicle.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
The easiest thing that you can do is just check
it and change it.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
And but it's a it's a massive problem and it's
something that we need to change.

Speaker 10 (27:01):
I got one more question for you.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (27:04):
Absolutely, we've noticed after she fills up the car there's
a strong gas smell in the garage, but it's you know,
after a couple of days, it.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Goes away, it dissipates you.

Speaker 10 (27:17):
Yeah, so I don't I don't know if that's a
gas cap or the fuel pump with a vent line?

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Is uh a check engine lighting on it?

Speaker 4 (27:26):
All?

Speaker 6 (27:27):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Uh? Okay.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
So you have what's called so it's part of the
what's called the evaporative emission system, the EVAP system. Right,
So when you fill your car up, those fumes are
in the tank. You know, that gas is sloshed around,
and the government doesn't want those fumes to just you know,
go into the atmosphere. Right, So you have an EVAP system.
So you have what's called a charcoal canister. Those fumes

(27:50):
go into that canister, which are then filtered. You have
what's called a canister vent valve. That valve will then
open up send the fumes through a line to the
front of the engine into what's called the purge valve.
That purge valve will then put those fumes into the
engine so you can go out the tailpipe. Somewhere in
that system you have a hole. Now, typically what we
have a lot of times if there's if there's a

(28:13):
hole in this system, you'll get a check engine light,
it'll set a code. If you don't have that, it
could just be that the vent valve is stuck open,
or the charcoal canister is bad. A lot of rodents
will get up there and they'll chew on that plastic
and can put a pinhole in it. So you've got
what your next step what you need to do is

(28:35):
get it to a repair shop and do what's called
a EVAPP smoke test, So you run smoke through the
EVAP system to try to figure out where that those
fumes are leaking out at it you have a leak
in the system, and again typically it'll set a check
engine light.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
But it doesn't sound like it's done that yet.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
But I mean the you know, the the tank seal
itself could be leaking too, or you know or maybe
you know the the the the the fuel neck has
you know, they can rust and they can leak too.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
So but you if you can spell the gas, you've
got a leak.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
So if you just we charge like eighty nine bucks
and we smoke the system and we try to figure
out you know, and it's actually really nice system.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
It's easy to do, and you just smoke the system
and then you.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
Try to figure out where the where the leak is,
you know, so you're not leaking fuel itself, you're leaking fumes.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah, just so you.

Speaker 10 (29:35):
Know a couple of gallons out that everything's fine, right.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
So a lot of times too, And I tell people
all the time, ask your wife typically, like when you
go to the gas station and that that pump kicks off,
make sure you stop it. Sometimes people want to, like,
you know, click it a couple more times and top
it off, But what happens is that fuel then goes
into the charcoal canister, ruined the charcoal canister, and then

(30:01):
that will cause all kinds of So always just ask her, like, hey,
when it kicks off or you add more or you're
letting it a lot of people do that.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
And I'm I'm guilty of it myself.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
I like to you know, you want to just top
it off a little bit more, you know, but if
that gas gets into that charcoal cancer, which happens a lot,
that can ruin it and.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Cause these issues.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
So I would just do get a evapp system or
a smoke test to try to find out where that
leak is.

Speaker 10 (30:33):
So yeah, okay, so that's not something I can do myself.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Correct, all right, thank you very much, Thank you very much,
have a great weekend.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
That's the thing is like when you go to the
gas station and I listen, like I just said, I'm
a victim of it as my I'm a victim of
it myself.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
My wife isn't because she doesn't like to fill her tank.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
She only likes to put in just enough so she
can get next next destination. I love you, dear, but uh,
she'll she'll go to the gas station put twenty five
dollars in it, and I'm like, why didn't you just
fill it up? That's too expensive? Like we still need it.
So but uh, for those of you who go to
the gas station and fill your car up all the
way once the pump kicks off, stop, do not just

(31:19):
keep clicking and adding because again that fuel goes into
the charcoal cancer. And then you calls check engine lights
and damage, and potentially what that gentleman was dealing with
is you know, he can smell gas leaking and it's
probably because the charcoal cancer is bad or whatnot.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
So when it.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Shuts off at the gas pump, just put it away
and you're done. So it'll save you a headache and
problems down the road. So all right, again, taking your
phone calls and never to call five one three seven
nine fifty five hundred. Coming up, we have Jim, Amy
and Dave. You're listening to the car showing fifty five
car see the talk station. Welcome back, taking your car

(32:02):
questions again, the number to call five one three seven
fifty five hundred.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
I don't know why I'm saying it like that, but anyways,
I want to get.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
To everybody's call, so I.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Don't mean to be rude.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
I'm just going to be I want to make sure
that gets everybody that's that's online or on hold.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
So uh, let's go back to the phones. We have Jim. Hey, Jim,
welcome to the car show. How can I help?

Speaker 9 (32:25):
Hi? Dang, this is actually a dominant question too, because
I've been your customer for about five or six years.
Moved over here comparison, okay, where I used to have
an independent guy. But my quick question is I had
the oil changed at don and it was an eighth
inch over the fill line on the tipstick. Is that

(32:47):
an issue?

Speaker 1 (32:50):
No? No, no, I mean you said an eighth a minute.

Speaker 9 (32:55):
Yeah, I mean a little bit. I was smelling like
oil burning too, you know, for about a couple of weeks,
and I checked the dipstick. It was just a it
was a little bit over, and I didn't know if
that was no an issue.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
No, no, it.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
I mean no, it's not an issue. I had a
you know, I had a lady one time that she
brought her car in because it was smoking and she
literally was trying to put she put like, I don't know,
twenty five quarts of oil and she was trying to
get it all the way full to the top of

(33:33):
the engine. And uh so that's a problem. But but no,
just a little bit over the dipstick is fine. Again,
going back to what we were talking about earlier in
the show, these cars burn a little bit of oil.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
So if you have a little bit over, I mean
anything more than a court over.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
You'll probably see some smoker or whatnot, but just a
little bit over the hash marks.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
No, you'll be fine. It's it's not going to be
part of this is.

Speaker 9 (34:01):
The sticker that you put on the window that does
that reflect five thousand miles?

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Correct? Yes, sir? Yeah, good because.

Speaker 9 (34:09):
I know Avalvelane I said, you know, I bought sythetic
that's supposed to get five, but they put three on
the window.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah, and you know right.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
And the thing is too is like that's some which
it's it's again it's confusion. But at Donovan's and most
repair shops they will put the sticker on there as
the date and the mileage that you need to change
the oil. Some shops good again to create confusion, will

(34:39):
put a sticker in there as to when the oil
was changed and the date that it was changed. But
then you know, then it makes you have to do
the math and which is fine. But again there's confusion
if you go to if you go to Vaveling down
the street and they're putting the sticker when it was changed,
and then you come to me and it's the sticker
as to when it needs to be changed.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Then there's just confusion.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Most shops should be putting the mileage and the date
as to when it needs.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
To be changed, not when it was changed.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
So but again, you can all stick to five thousand
miles because all of these cars nowadays. When I started
this show and I started this you know, when I
started into this industry, it was three thousand.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
It is five. Stick to five and you'll be perfectly fine.

Speaker 9 (35:24):
And I'm putting full synthetic it's onto obviously twenty twelve,
I got one hundred and seventy thousand miles on it,
and I figured that's about halfway.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah, through my life. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
So the other thing too is, you know, the biggest
thing is like can can can synthetic oil go ten
thousand miles?

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Can it? Sure?

Speaker 4 (35:43):
But the problem is is nobody's checking it. If you're
checking it and making sure that it's changed regularly and
it's full, you'll be perfectly fine. You'll get another one
hundred thousand miles out of that vehicle. My father in
law has almost two hundred thousand miles on a Sienna.
He brings it to me religiously and the thing runs
like a top.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
So you'll be fine. Just make sure you check it.

Speaker 9 (36:07):
Thanks day, and thanks to all those guys. Take good
care of me down now, blue Ishwrack.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
All right, you're welcome. Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
I appreciate the business so and again, you know, we
appreciate all of our customers, all of our employees again
Donovan's Auto entire Center. We appreciate everybody. And you know
we're again I'm here every Saturday to answer your car
questions so that we can, you know, help take care
of people and make sure that you know you're taking

(36:35):
care of and your cars well maintained.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
So all right, let's go back to the phones. We
have Dave. Hey, Dave, welcome to the car show. How
can I help?

Speaker 9 (36:44):
Hey?

Speaker 10 (36:44):
Dom, Hey, good to talk to you. Hey.

Speaker 11 (36:48):
Two thousand and five Sienna, and yesterday through three up.

Speaker 9 (36:54):
Three codes on.

Speaker 6 (36:55):
The dashare track off, VSC and check engine light.

Speaker 9 (37:03):
Check engine light.

Speaker 11 (37:03):
Just checked out to be a P.

Speaker 6 (37:05):
Zero four thirty okay, and.

Speaker 9 (37:10):
It's like, okay, so I've just.

Speaker 11 (37:14):
Been while we were while I was waiting, I just.

Speaker 6 (37:17):
Did talking and find out what uh you know what
this means is something about the catalyst yeah below efficiency yep,
yeah exactly.

Speaker 9 (37:28):
So the car's got one hundred and eighty five thousand.

Speaker 8 (37:31):
Miles on it.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Yeah, yeah, got so, all right, So PO four so
you've got a four to twenty, which is the front converter,
and you get a four to thirty which is a
bank two converter.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Okay, so it's below efficiency.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
The converter basically acts as a furnace, so any unburned
fuel that's in the exhaust has to go through the converter.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
It's burned in there and then it goes out to tailpipe.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
So the reason that the VSC and the traction light,
the traction lights are on is because the car sees
that there's a problem with the engine, so it turns
those the VSSE and the traction light, it turns those
systems off because it's like, oh, we see a problem
with the car, so we're gonna turn these.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Off so we don't damage that. So that's standard.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
So there's nothing wrong with the VSC, there's nothing wrong
with the the traction stability. It's on because the check
engine lights on because it sees something wrong with the engine. Again,
you can drive the vehicle with a PO four thirty code. Again,
it's just not burning the fuel off. It's not basically,
it's not it's not running efficient to government standards. Okay, However,

(38:39):
with that light on, it will keep those systems turned
off unless you address the issue, which is unfortunately gonna
you're gonna have to replace the catalytic converter, which is
extremely expensive.

Speaker 9 (38:54):
One hundred and eighty thousand miles. I don't know if
I'm gonna attempt to have that done.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
I understand, and it's again, the vehicle stability and the
traction traction control aren't going to work.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
If the lights on the car will still function, you
can do everything. You're not going to damage anything. And
again you're not going to hurt the.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Car by driving it with the chick engine light and
those two those two other lights on. However, it's you know,
in order to get that addressed, got to replace the converter.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
But it's okay to drive the vehicle. It's just you know,
it's not.

Speaker 6 (39:32):
You know, So if we were, if the county was
still having emission testing in Ohio here and all that,
you might fail.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
You would fail, and yes, you would have to get
it replaced regardless.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
Okay, all right, you got one more time for one more.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
Quickie, real quick, because I have to be out in
about more minute.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
Kia, it's a hybrid, has only seventy five thousand miles
the electric ace. The compressor is making a noise and
if you press the AC button in the car to
turn it off, that noise stops and it starts bowling

(40:13):
out warm air.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, the clutch is going bad on the compressor.

Speaker 11 (40:18):
So if if the car was losing free on, would
that compressor still make that noise even though somebody puts
free on in it or get it back up.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
Yeah, it'll still even if you even if you lost
the free on or it's full of free on, it's
still gonna make that noise that that clutch and the
compressor is going out.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
So it needs a compressor unfortunately. So it happens.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
It's something that we have to deal with every day.
So hey, listen, everybody enjoy their weekend, Stay cool again.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
It's hot again.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Thank you so much. I'll be back next week to
answer all of your questions again. Dain from Donovan's Auto
entire Center. You know somebody that needs a vehicle Donovan's
cares Dot. Nominate somebody. We'd be more happy to help
them out. So everybody enjoyed the weekend. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
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the talk station

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