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Speaker 1 (00:08):
On the road again. Just can't wait to get on
the road again.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You have good afternoon, and welcome to the car show
on fifty five k r C. I'm Dane Donovan from
Donovan's Auto entire Center. Here every Saturday to answer your
car questions. The number to call five one three seven
(00:42):
four nine fifty five hundred. That number again five one
three seven four nine fifty five hundred and again here
every Saturday to Andrew Well most saturdays. Of course, Tony
Bender would yell at me because they said, I'm part time.
But I am here every Saturday. But yeah, my producers,
(01:04):
uh yelling. Yeah, he gets yelled at too, so I
get it. So but uh, I'm here as much as
I possibly can. Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I do have three.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Boys, and they are in sports and and we're having
our uh my youngest son just turned eight and h
decclan the the one that was uh so anyways, he's
celebrating his birthday. This is the third birthday party that
he's had for his eighth birthday.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
We had a.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Birthday party for him on his actual birthday, and then
we had a friend's birthday party. Now we're having a
family birthday party. You know, so you can tell who's
the who's the favorite in the in our family. I
am not in my family. I'm uh but hey, you know,
every family's got one, but I'm not so but decland
certainly's uh enjoying himself that we, uh.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
We have a bounce house.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I was actually replacing the net on our trampoline because
there's just it just looks like just I don't I'd say,
like it looks like Swiss cheese. But I already had
holes in it to begin with. But neighbors tree fell
on it. So I was doing that. My fingers are
raw trying to put the net back up. I'm sorry
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to replace it. And we got a little bit of
a We got a bounce house, and uh so I'm
gonna have some fun this afternoon, but uh, until then,
I'm answering your car questions again. Then I'm gona call
five one three seven fifty five hundred. That number again,
five one three seven five hundred. I do want to
talk about as well.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I was on.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Let's see here, I was on. I was on with
Brian Thomas about three weeks ago. I was on with him,
and then uh Tiff Potter on uh kiss one of
seven FM. And then John John uh this Wednesday promoting
the Donovan's Cares vehicle that we're given away. And this
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is the first year that we've done it. And I
apologize I was not here last week. I was in Cleveland,
and if anybody's ever been up to Cleveland, don't go.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
But it was it was interesting. But anyways, again, it's.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Called Donovan's Cares dot com or you can go to
donovantire dot com. So what we did is we're giving
away a twenty thirteen Subaru outback and completely scott free
where we've done all of the maintenance to it, tires, brakes,
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all of the services, all of the maintenance, everything, and
no pun intended. This thing is turn key ready, okay.
And we had some finalists so we anybody could have
anybody could submit and put in for somebody who's in
need and need a car.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
We had some very great feedback from that and we
were down to five finalist okay, so everybody could vote.
We're down to five finalists. Okay, We're giving away the
vehicle on the August twenty ninth. Okay, we'll reveal who
wins the vehicle on August twenty ninth, but we're relying
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on the public to vote and figure out pick who
they want to win this vehicle.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Again, we're down to five finalist.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Okay, so you go to donovanscares dot com find out
the five finalists.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You can read their stories.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And and and you can submit. It's one one per email,
so one vote per email. But again, you can go
to donovanscares dot com or Donovan Tire find uh, find
your five finalists, and you.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Pick who you want to receive the vehicle.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Again, we're we're gonna reveal the finalist August twenty ninth. Okay,
so again go to donovanscares dot com and uh, we've
we've really have got some tremendous feedback from this and
hopefully we are able to do it more and more
cars every single year, and so we're really excited. It's
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it's been a it's been a challenge right now with
the with the project, you know, just trying to get
everything up and running and get it gone and and
you know, we want to make sure this thing is
again pristine, turnkey, ready to go, so everybody can whoever
receives it can you know, get back and forth to
work pick their kids up from school, you know, and
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and and somewhat have some normalcy in their lives. Right.
If you read some of the stories, it's it's it's
kind of it's it's devastating, it's it's hard. You know,
you think you're having a bad day and you read
some of these these one of the finalists, you know,
she was in a head on collision and her whole
she was several months pregnant, and uh, they basically you know,
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has no transportation, and so you should read the stories.
They're they're phenomenal. And again it's all there's you know,
there's no costs. We're giving the car away. It doesn't
cost anybody anything, and we're giving it away and in
need of somebody who you know, you know, to give
someone in need of.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
A vehicle, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
And it's been great, So very very pleased with the
turnout so far.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
But again, donovan'scares dot Com.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
You can go to the website and you can vote,
because it's we can't vote as far as Donovan Tire goes, right,
we're not voting on it. It's the public that can vote
on who wins the vehicle. Okay, And again it's been
a great turnout. So I listen. If you have time,
go on online and you can vote for these people.
And uh and again I I this is the first year.
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I only hope that it gets larger and larger every year.
That's our goal. So again the number call five one
three seven four five one hundred. That number again, five
one three seven four nine fifty five one hundred. Again,
I'm taking your phone calls. Love to hear from you.
Phone lines are wide open. We do have Paul. He's
coming up shortly, but uh, man, love to hear from you.
(07:14):
That's what I'm here for to answer your car question.
So if you've got a call, please, you know, get
you right in. You won't wait very long. So so yeah,
I hope everybody's enjoying their weekend. So all right, coming up,
we've got Paul. You're listening to the car show on
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Speaker 1 (08:03):
Some may not want to hear what you have to say,
but we do. Fifty five KR and Z the talk
station taking your car questions. The number to call five.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
One three seven four nine fifty five hundred, That number
gain five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred. Uh,
enjoying this wonderful weather we're having. This is, you know, unusual.
It was it's a little steamy, but uh it's tolerable,
right as far as it's as hot as it's been lately,
it's kind of nice to take a little you know,
(08:35):
if you're in the shade, it's perfect, right. But my son,
my youngest, had a football game this morning, and uh,
it's uh, it was a little steamy, but it's fun
to watch because everybody's like he's only in the second grade, right,
So everyone's like, oh, you're you know, he's playing tackle football.
I'm like yeah, but with all the pads and the
helmets and everything like that, it just looks like all
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these kids are just hugging each other. You know, they
don't have enough force to really get after it and
get hurt. Right, So it's it's really fun to watch.
If you ever have an opportunity to do it, just
swing on by my boys go to All Saints. But
you know, it's it's really it's it's fun.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So but again, taking your phone calls and never to
call five one, three, seven fifty five hundred.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Let's as promise, let's go to the phones. We have Paul, Hey, Paul,
welcome to the car show. How can I help?
Speaker 4 (09:29):
As it says two thousand and seven element about two
hundred and sixty two thousand miles getting the pie zero
one three three, which is you know, the air fuel
ratio is slow to respond. So do I do I
just go straight to a new two centsor or is
there anything else I can do? I think this thing's
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been neglected a little bit for the past I don't know,
sixty seventy thousand miles and I was wrecked and I
had to rebuild the front end.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
But gotcha.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
No, I mean, for the most part, you know, ninety
nine percent of the time, it's just a bad two
cents or I'm sorry air fuel ratio sensor or so
may you know, refer to it as an oxygen sensor
or an O two sensor, but it's an air fuel
ratio sensor.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Right, you know, you can maybe check you know, you
can check the wiring, make sure all the wiring is
good at you know, at the connecting you know, maybe
unplugged the so that sensor is right up top. You
can get to it, right if you pop the hood,
it's right there. It screws right into the top of
the catalytic converter. It's right on top. You can get
to it.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Okay, Yeah, the cat's down under the car, so it's
it's it's just the first it's the first sensor on
the cat right.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, but doesn't isn't the cat at the up the
top on that Nope?
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Nope, No, No, okay, down underneath where it's easy to steal.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, gotcha, okay, uh, but anyways, you want to check
the wiring and then.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You know, if I can I.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Can clear it and you know, on another day of
driving it will eventually come back.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Right, Yeah, it's probably just fat. They're expensive, but don't buy.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I would recommend don't buy after market.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Don't buy aftermarket not on that.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Like if you're gonna buy like an aftermarket altnator or
battery or belt, okay, that's fine, But on that O
two centsor man, they sell universal ones. They sell aftermarket ones,
and you that's a specific part that you want to
make sure that you buy one that's you know, a
manufacturer to that car.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
You don't want to buy, you know, you can buy
n gk.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Is okay, right, n.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
GK Denzo or get one from Honda therek Again, they're
they're you know, two three four d dollars.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
You're expensive.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
But believe it or not, I have a two thousand
Honda Civic two thousand, right, it's twenty five years old.
My air fuel ratio sensor on that car. I don't
know why it's but they are. They they can be expensive,
so and I know that it's like.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
But like the converters for the elements, if you want
to get one from Honda, it's like over two thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, well for a while, you know, they were cutting
them out all on the preuses on the elements and yeah,
it's about two or three thousand.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Dollars to last a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, luckily that knock on would Luckily that's have
that's subsided. And we're not really having that issue anymore
because the precious metals that are inside those converters, that
those those levels, those costs, those prices have gone down,
so they're not getting as much money, so they're not
stealing them as much. So but yeah, get a Denzo
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NNGK or get one from Honda.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
All right, all right, but yeah, most likely not. Like
I said, ninety nine percent of the time, it's a sensor.
It's not it's not anything else.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I mean, it could be you know, a computer glitch
or a computer problem or whatnot, but I would start
with that sensor first. All right, all right, thank you
very much. Yep, you take care, bye bye. That's the
thing when these with these cars. You know, again, for
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those of you out there that are you're do it yourselfers.
You want to go out there, you want to do it,
you want you you know, you may even enjoy doing it. Right,
it's a Saturday, it's beautiful out. You want to work
on your own car. Great, I've always said on the show. Look,
if you're working on your own car, you're already saving
yourself a tremendous amount of money.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Okay, because it's expensive.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
So if you're ever, if you're doing it yourself, do
yourself a favor and buy a good quality part.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You want to research it as far as the manufacturer
and who is the original equipment manufacturer of that parts? Right,
if it's a Honda, you know, just get the parts
from the dealer right now. Your car might be old
enough that you can't do that and your only option
is aftermarket. But again, don't buy the cheapest part that
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that you can find, because they you you're already saving
yourself a tremendous amount of money. Buy a good quality
part that I'm telling you that means. It's a world
of difference. It really is, so all right again, the
number to call five one, three, seven, nine fifty five,
one hundred. We have looks like Diane, Hey, welcome to
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the show. How can I help?
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Oh my gosh, thank you so much for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I appreciate it. Problem.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
So I have a two thousand, two thousand, two thousand.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
It's twenty five years old, so it's an antique all
all of a sudden, and so it's a Mustang convertible.
And the problem is the hydraulic on the convertible part
of it.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Is dying fast and it can go down by itself,
but at the point where it's not going up by itself,
so I need help bringing it up. Because you can't
do it by yourself. It's impossible. You have to get
someone to help you, which.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
I'm pretty good at doing.
Speaker 8 (15:11):
People like to help me.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
I can get help to do it.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But I'm tired of it.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
I want to I want it to work again.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
So I was looking at so I got some stuff
to fix the hydraulic part of it, thinking that I
could just, you know, put something into the little thing
that's a hydraulic thing and make.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
It work again.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
But I can't even find where the hydraulic thing is.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
And I go to the YouTube stuff and that's not there.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
It's not where they say it is, and it's in
the trunk like behind this back seat and everything. There's
nothing there that would be that even remotely looks like
at a hydraulic pump type of thing. Do you know
where it is?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Goodness? I unfortunately, no, I do not know where it is.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I would have to Unfortunately, I'd have to see the car,
because you're right. Sometimes they put them underneath the back seat.
Sometimes they put them behind the back seat. Sometimes they
put them on the right red you know, right rear fender.
Sometimes they put around the left rear fender. Man, I don't, But.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Wouldn't they need one for either side or one does
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Usually one does all of it. There isn't one on
each side, not that I'm aware of. But again, you
know the problem is is we don't work on convertible
top because you get into a convertible top and that's
a whole other monster.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
It's a whole nother I'm dealing with one right now.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
That Yeah, there's not easy.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, look at it.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Even replacing the convertible top that you can replace it,
then you can get the replacement for it everything.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
But if you get the wrong replacement, like if it's
a glass it's.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Real glass on the convertible, or if it's that plastic
craft that's it makes it different.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
They don't all, it's not all universal.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, oh I know, Oh, I know. That's I know.
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
And it's not cheap.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
I'm like, they're four hundred and five, it's not it's
not exhorbitant.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
I mean like five in bucks for the whole convertible art.
That's not awful, but it's still you get the wrong one.
It's and that's not you know, a return that.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
You'd rather not deal with. So yeah, I appreciate your help.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
Yeah, so I got to bring it somewhere.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, so here's what i'd recommend. Who i'd recommend in
the since are you in the Cincinnati area?
Speaker 8 (17:21):
Yeah, I just have Fairfield Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
So who I use is down by my shop.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I've used them for you know, the thirty years I've
been doing this. But Fisher Griffin. It's down on Martin
Martin Luther King downtown. That's who I use. They do
all of my convertible stuff. I would call them. They'd
be more happy to take a look at it for you.
That's where I would take it if it was my car.
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Fisher Griffin, call them up. They're all Martin Luther King
down you know, near downtown. But they've been in business
for long. I think as long as Donovan Tyre has
been in business.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
So call that if I.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Tell them, if I tell them, you'll set you sent me,
they'll be nice to me.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You say, Donovan's Dane at Donovan Tire sent me and
he said that you'll take care of me.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
So I promise you they will. All right, Okay, thank
you for your You're welcome, good Saturday.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
All right, thank you, by bye. You know, that's the
thing about convertible tops. You know, you think, like I said,
I've been dealing with one right now. In fact, I
got a kind of a not so nice email this morning.
But we don't we don't do them at Donnovan Tire.
We do not do convertible tops. We do not work
on them. Uh, they are a whole other monster. Okay,
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So I know it sounds like, oh well it's part
of the car Dane. Why doesn't Donovan's work on a
convertible top. Convertible tops are something that is a unique,
is unique, and you don't really you really have to
have the proper tools and the right set of skills
to work on it.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
So the best way that the best analogy that I
could use is if you had a heart problem. Okay,
let's just say again, you got a heart problem, right,
you wouldn't go to your general physician, just say hey,
can you take can can you go ahead and open
open me up, do open heart surgery and fix my heart?
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
You really really need to have somebody that's a specialist
when it comes to this stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
So we're working on one. Well, we're not working on it.
Vehicle came in to our shop. Unfortunately, Uh, convertible tops
you usually have to fold into the trunk. This customer
had luggage in the trunk, forgot about it, tried to
put the top down, broke something. Okay, again, we don't
do it. So but out of the kindness of our hearts,
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I took it to the dealer too. I'm not gonna
mention any names or whatnot. Took it to the dealer,
have them look at it. They've had it for six
weeks and can't fix it. And now this is a
this is a pretty newer car, like I mean, it's
only a couple of years old.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
So Fisher Griffin in that particular Mustang was a two thousand, right,
Fisher Griffin could take care of that with the newer stuff.
There's so many censors and so and again the car
is only a.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Couple of years old.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
So I send it to the dealer and they are
struggling to figure out why it won't work. So I
have it at a top notch dealer here in Cincinnati,
and they've had it for six weeks and they can't
fix it. So I mean, I don't like convertibles. I
never have, I never will. If you want the top down,
buy a Jeep or a Bronco, right, buy a four
(20:40):
Bronco or a Jeep. If you want the top off,
do not buy a convertible if you can. There's too
many mechanisms, too many moving parts, too many things to break,
and when they break, it's extremely expensive. So again in
the email I received, hey listen, it's just gonna need
a whole new top. And it's twenty five thousand dollars.
It's not covered, it's not under warranty, it's out a warranty.
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It's twenty five thousand dollars if they want their convertible
top to work. So, uh, it's expensive. So you think
about that when you're buying one. And if you have
a vehicle an older vehicle, that it's mechanical, use it
as least as you the least amount of time as
you can. Like I have a newer vehicle, newer truck,
(21:26):
and I don't my boys get it. I'm like, don't
touch any buttons, don't touch anything. The more you move it,
the more it's gonna break. But uh so, anyways, if
you if you have a if you can avoid buying
a convertible, please do because they are a nightmare to
fix and most shops won't fix them. You have to
find a specialist. Alright again, the number to call five
(21:48):
one three five hundred. That number gain five one three
seven fifty five hundred phone lines are why I'll why open.
But coming up, we have Chuck. You're listening to the
Car Show on fifty five KRC, the talk station. Way
back in nineteen fifty eight, my grandfather opened Donovan's Auto
entire Center right here in Cincinnati. A lot has changed
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since then, but our commitment to honest auto repair hasn't.
We believe in making sure your vehicle gets everything it
needs and nothing it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Because as a.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Family owned business with our name on the wall, integrity matters.
From nineteen fifty eight, to today, Donovan's Auto entire Center
is still Cincinnati's honest choice for auto repair and we're
proud to keep this city moving.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Three area locations.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Find yours at donovantire dot com.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
No shaming here. We like to hear your thoughts and opinions.
Fifty five krc D talk station taking your car questions.
The number to call five one.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Three seven four nine fifty five hundred and five one
three seven four nine fifty five hundred and I am
Dane Donovan from Donovan's Auto entire Center.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Again.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I talked about it earlier in the show, but this
year we are giving away a twenty thirteen Super rub
and uh.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Again, I've been on several stations here.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
And I AT I AT, iHeart and promoting it. And again,
if you want to learn more about it, if you
want to vote on the finalist again, go to Donovanscares
dot com or you can go to donald Tire dot com.
Find it and you can read their stories and then
you can vote on who on who we give the
vehicle to. And again, this is the first year that
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we've done it. We've gotten absolutely great feedback and it's
been a hit, and I hope that we can do
this time at year after year after year and just
get bigger and bigger and bigger and hopefully you know,
give away ten cars. You know. So, but again, go
to Donovanscares dot com and you can vote, and uh,
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we're gonna announce the winner on August twenty ninth. So
my my lovely wife was out getting everything ready for
the birthday party that we're having this afternoon, and she
just texted me and said, oh, my license has expired.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
They won't let me buy beer at the grocery store.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Sir, I've got things to do after I leave here.
So all the all the things we do for our kids.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
So all right, let's go back to the phones we have. Chuck, Hey, Chuck,
welcome to the car show. How can I help?
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Well, thank you for taking my call today. I am
looking for some help or just a suggestion or a guess.
We went to a grandson's soccer game this morning and
we were fortunate just to get back to the service
station with our car, this two thousand and six Cadillac CPS.
(24:46):
It it starts missing. It's like you if you just
have your foot level on the pedal, like you lifted
it off real quick. The car jerks, it'll jerk. This
all started maybe a month ago. The chuck engine light
came on. We took it to a service station and
they said, oh, it's saying catalytic convert but they said, oh,
it's very seldom not, so they turned it off instead.
(25:09):
If it comes back, we'll check some things out. Anyway,
it started missing, so we took it in and they
they replaced a canister purge solenoid or a vapor canister
something that, and we drove it a couple of days
and it started missing again real bad, so we took
(25:29):
it out and they replaced a mass airflow sensory and
that ran pretty good for two or three days, and
then we were in a fifth third atm and it
quit and it would not start, so we had to
have a towed back out and they said that censor
was bad, so it replaced it again. Anyway, we went
to blue Ash yesterday and came back. No, no, no,
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I'm sorry. It started missing again, so we took it out.
They had it Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday and said they
can't recreate ate it, so keep driving it. So yesterday
we went to blue Ash and came back to seventy
five going up that hill from Coney Island. It was
crazy the way the car was jerking and jerking and jerking,
and my wife was driving anyway, We got home and
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he kept doing it. So this morning we went to
the soccer game and we had my son pick us
up at the service station again. So it's up there.
They said, bring it back next week, but it's up
there now. They said they're having trouble figuring it out
and they can't. They couldn't duplicate it. So any suggestion
with that could be.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Well, let me ask you something, because you're telling me, hey,
it's misfiring, it's jerking, it's bucking, it's jerking, and it's
and but they've replaced a perchs illinoid which wouldn't cause that,
and then they've replaced a mass airflow sensor which wouldn't
cause that. So did they indicate to you what if
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they had any if what the check edge light was
on for what.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
The toads were.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
They said when it was on like a month ago,
that it was the the catalytic converter. It was what
it was saying, right. But see now they keep asking
me when I called yesterday they said any check engine
lights and I said no, okay.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I mean, you know, I'm confused as to I mean, yeah,
converter won't cause that the bucking and the jerking and
or the misfiring that you're expressing to me, is yet
mass airflow sensor really isn't going to do that.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It's certainly a perd sellinoid is not going to do
that either. How many miles are on it? Okay? And
do you have.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Any history as to maybe when that, when a tune
up was done, spark plugs replaced?
Speaker 7 (27:50):
I do not on that when we bought the car,
probably a year.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Ago, okay, Okay, So here's so a lot of times
if you have a spark plug the that is wore out.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That'll cause it.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
If you have if the porcelain on the spark plug
is cracked, that can cause it. Or the ignition coil,
which the coil is what sends the spark to the
spark plug.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Okay, a coil can cause that.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Now, a coil can cause that, and it never flag
a check engine light. Never right, So typically you put
it on a scale on a on a computer, you
wouldn't be able to do this. We would have to
do that, or a shop would be able to put
it on a scanner, drive it and watch the fire
the firing order and watch and if a coil is misfiring,
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it'll drop off and it'll show that on a on
on the screen on a diagram.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Right, it almost looks like a heartbeat.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Right, you're like, okay, one's fire, and two's fire, and
threes fire and force front, you know, so, and then
if one of them drops out and doesn't and doesn't fire,
then it'll drop down and it'll be like at zero, right,
so you'll see like the huge swing like all the
way down and then back up. So I would check again,
converter is not going to cause that mass airflow sensor
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could cause a running issue, but not like a misfire
type bucking jerking kind of you know, running bad. That's
not it'll it'll bawl down, right, So you might like
hit the gas and just goes bum and you don't.
It won't move, but it won't cause what you're experiencing.
And again the purge valve of illinoid won't cause a
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running issue as well. So I think you have now
again on a misfire. A couple of things real quick.
You know, sometimes you could sit there. What I would
recommend is, hey, let's get on carfacts or you can
even call me on You can call me any day
this week. I can't do it from here, but you
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call me any day this week. Give me your license plate.
I can run a carfax report and I can tell
you if it's been tuned up or not.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Very easy. Yeah, just give me. Just give me your
license plate, nmory.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I don't need it now, I'm saying, call me at
at work and you can just tell them when just
say hey, I spoke to Dane on the radios. On
the radio, he told me to call. All I need
is your license plate. I can run a carfax report
on it and find out if it's been tuned up.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
If not, that's where we need to go.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
So what I recommend too, whether it's at that shop
or any other shop, make sure whether it be in
a cadllac, make sure you buy AC Delco spark plugs,
AC Delco coil so you might be one of those
things where you're gonna have to replace because if there's
if there's no codes in there, there's you know, the mechanic.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Whether you bring it to me, or anybody else.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
They're not going to have anything to go off of, right,
I mean, I can see it on us. If they
have the proper tools, they can run it, drive it,
and if it acts up, they'll be able to see
which cylinder is misfired and acting up. But you you
were you replace the spark plugs, all the spark plugs,
and all the coils.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Now that's very expensive.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
You don't necess necessarily have to do that, but you
cover all your bases, right, But it's going to be
very expensive to go that route. So you want it
on a scan tool and you want them to run,
you know, you want them to run it figure out
exactly what's caused, which one's causing that. Now, let's just
say you replace the spark plugs and you do replace
the coils and it's still acting up. Well, an injector
could be could be bad and causing that as well. Now,
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injectors are extremely expensive to install and put in. Ninety
nine percent of the time, it's never an injector. It's
always a spark plug or coil issue. And at one
hundred and eighty thousand miles, you probably have one or
multiple ignition coils that are failing because their job is
to send the spark to the spark plug. But over time,
if the plugs are wore out, that ignition coil is
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having to work harder and harder and harder because you know,
it's having to produce more spark for that spark plug
because it's wore out.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
So if I were you, I replaced all the spark plugs,
all the coils again expensive, but I would get ac
Delco parts because coils are you know, you can get
them on You can go to Amazon and find a
whole pack of them for a hundred bucks and you're
gonna be like, oh, you know, but if you buy
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an a AC Delca one, you're gonna probably pay one
hundred and twenty five one hundred and fifty bucks apiece
and you got eight of them, or I don't have
the six cylinder eight okay, So you know. So that's
that's what I would do, and that's where I would
start for sure. But like I said, if you call
me on Monday, give me your license plate and I
can run a carfax report, we can find if it's
been done if it's not, that's where we need to start.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Wow. So that's the coils and the plugs that would
be that would give you the intermittent type of deal where.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Fine, absolutely, yep, absolutely so sol So that's really really
so typically when you have a spark plug issue, it's
going to be there. It's it's gonna be at what
we call a dead mess. It's gonna be there pretty
much all the time. We're on a coil. It'll be intermittent. Right,
you'll drive it for you know, you drive it from
here to Florida. And I had the problems and then
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all of a sudden, you started up tomorrow morning and
you're going to the grocery store. Man, it's bucket, it's jerking,
it's running. And that's what they that's what they do
a lot of times they'll run. They'll run worse two
when it's cold or if it's raining because of the moisture.
But very very indicative, very it sounds to me like
you've got a coil issue. And again, if there's no
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codes in the computer, then it's never gonna flag one.
So that's why I'm like, hey, just cover your bases,
do the tune up, replace all the coils, buy good,
good quality coil. You cover all your bases. And that's
the other thing. Real quick, real quick, on that converter code.
Did he give you a code as far as like
a PO four twenty or anything like that, he did, I.
Speaker 7 (33:42):
Don't remember that. I actually went out and he said,
I took it off. If it comes back, bring it
back and will.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
It was probably an efficiency code, meaning that the converter
is not The converter acts as a furnace and any
unburned fuel and the exhaust it burns off inside there.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
So it's probably just not doing that.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
But I will tell you if a converter is plugged up,
now you'll never get a code for this. But if
a converters plugged up where it's it's you know, completely
the car can't breathe right. The exhaust can come back
up in the cylinder and calls a misfire.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
But it doesn't. I mean, it's gonna again. It's gonna
be like a dead miss.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
It's it's it's not gonna be one of those things
where it's gonna be hit or miss. It's gonna do
it all the time. So I think you just need
you probably have a one or multiple coils that are
acting up.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
So dude, well that's some good suggestions, and yes it
is there for me. So thank you, thank.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
You, very welcome. All right, well you have a great weekend.
Enjoy enjoy the weather. Ah bye bye. That's the thing
that these cars can be. Uh, they can be tricky,
You certainly can. So all right again. Taking your phone
calls and number call five one, three, seven, nine fifty
five one hundred. Coming up, we have Missy and Dan.
Listen to the car show on fifty five KRC the
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Speaker 3 (34:54):
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Speaker 1 (35:26):
Taking your car questions.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
The number to call five one, three, seven four nine
fifty five hundred Dane Donovan here from Donovan's Auto entire Center.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
I apologize for the hesitation there. I was yawning.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Uh getting old. I have to take naps in the
middle of the day. So let's go back to the phones.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
We have Missy. Hey, Missy, welcome to the car show.
How can I help Hi?
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Thanks for taking my car. I have a twenty twenty
sixteen Honda CRV call wheel drive, has about sixty four
thousand miles on it, and I keep up with the
maintenance on it at a reliable place, and I've had
to replace the battery three separate times. One time was
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twelve sixteen of twenty two, then nine eleven of twenty four,
then just recently August eighteenth of twenty five. Of course
I take it to reliable places, but not the dealership,
and I'm curious. They have both said this. Most recent time,
I took it just to get another opinion, and they're
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all coming up with they can't find what's wrong. All
the draw tests were done to the specifications of Honda.
They were fine. So I'm having to take it to Honda.
Can you tell me what can I expect and the
cost and what happens if they tell me, so they
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can't find anything.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Well, that's a great point.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
So I'm going to ask you a couple of questions
on the vehicle itself.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Are you driving is this? Is it a daily driver?
Are you driving it daily?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Does it sit for long periods of the time? It
doesn't necessarily have to be driven every day, but I mean,
is it driven at least a couple of times a week?
Speaker 8 (37:23):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Okay, yes, it is, all right?
Speaker 8 (37:26):
And then maybe maybe fifty miles a week okay, okay,
they do a hundred hundreds max.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Okay, okay. And then is does the car sit outside
or is it sit in a garage?
Speaker 8 (37:39):
In a garage?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
And then is there anything that is plugged into the
cigarette lighter, a cell phone charger or anything like that?
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Never?
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Okay, all right, good, good, good.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
And then as far as the three batteries that you
had replaced, you don't have to give anything like that.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
But is it is the battery? Do you know what
kind of battery?
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Like the brand of the battery Delco Delco? Okay, mm hmm,
that's weird, okay, ac Delco. Okay, that's a good back,
that's a good it's a good battery okay. And then
as far as those three batteries that have been replaced,
did they replace those under warranty or are you charged
for those all three of those batteries.
Speaker 8 (38:25):
No, they've been replaced under warranty.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Okay, Okay, good, So I'm you know, and.
Speaker 8 (38:33):
Most recently when you go out, of course, it just
clicks and then it's completely dead. So I know how
to jump it myself.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Good for you, But I'm just so.
Speaker 8 (38:44):
I just you know, I'm sort of out of loss.
I don't want to take it to the dealership, but
I don't know what they're going to say. What can
I expect? Yeah, so you know what happens if they
tell me we don't see anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Well, they're gonna probably tell you that. I'm just not
to pick on them that. But here here, here's here's
what happens. So a lot of the times, you can
have what's called an intermittent electrical draw right, So there
might be a short and a wire. There might be
short in a ball, there might be a short in
the radio, okay, meaning that at any point, so you
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might have that thing parked in the in the garage,
right and in the middle of the night, the radio
comes on and then drains the battery right, and then
you jump it, take it to the dealer. Radio is
working fine. They do their test and they're like, hey,
we can't find anything. Not to say that it's not there,
but you could be dealing with what's called an intermittent
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electrical draw something possibly in the car could be could
be drawing the battery down that you're not aware of it.
Right again, you know, I had a vehicle, I had
an F one fifteen not too long ago.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
The battery would just die overnight.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
So I literally parked it underneath one of my security
cameras at work and right like two o'clock in the more,
I mean, the dash, the radio, everything came on and
then the car died right because it was it would
just stay, it would just come on because there was
a there was an intermittent electrical short. So they can
run every test in the book and not find anything wrong.
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So probably I will tell you if you get it there,
even if you take it to the dealer, they're gonna
probably tell you the same thing.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
They can't find anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Not to say that there isn't something going on, but
they're probably not going to be able to find anything.
It's one of those things where I hate to see it,
but it's kind of like a it's a needle in
a haystack. It's it has to be acting up for
them to try to actively find what's drawing that or
what's causing.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
That battery to die.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Now, do you have to your knowledge, do you have
Bluetooth capability where you can take hands free like you
can take a phone call uh on, through your through
the radio or through the vehicle the car itself.
Speaker 8 (40:53):
Yeah, but yeah, I don't use it, okay. So and
and I try and turn off my radio and my air.
I've been doing this a little more when I get
out of the car for the night.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Okay, Okay. So here here's why I asked about the Bluetooth.
So Honda and Accura right there, they're the same company,
their actors just you know, more expensive Honda, right. But
their Bluetooth what's called the Bluetooth module. There's a computer
a module that runs that that system. Okay, and very
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very commonly that Bluetooth module will fail internally and cause
a battery drawl or an electrical draw. Now, usually when
those fail, they have a constant draw and you. Most
repair shops would be able to find that immediately. But
that's something that maybe have them look at and just say, hey,
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look here's the problem, here's what here's what I'm dealing with.
Can you also maybe just check the Bluetooth module again,
it's for your hands free FU have them check that
again or what we typically do. So it's so expensive
to replace it, and like you said, you allude to
like Dane Adam, I don't use it. So what we
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do at Donovan's we just don't plug it.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
It's all you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
You get, you find the module, you unplug it, boom,
you're done. You just don't have hands free rate phone.
But it stops your draw right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
So.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
But have them check that. That's a very very common
problem on hondas. But again, if it please you know,
I know it's frustrating, but you know, don't lose faith
in the dealer or wherever.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
You're taking it. It can be one of those things.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
I mean, we found a short one time underneath the
carpet underneath the seat, right and it's like, how does
that even happen? But it happens, you know. But uh,
if you've put three batteries in it in that short
amount of time. Yeah, something may intermittently be drawing that
battery and you know kind of the other thing that
you can do too. If you're like Dane took it
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to the dealer. You know, I'm so frustrated. I don't
want to have to be stranded or have to jump
my car constantly. You can buy and you can go
on Amazon or anywhere else. You can buy what's called
a trickle charger. I have that already, a trickle charger
or just a so you're like plugging it into the wall,
(43:23):
like when you pull it in the garage, you're plugging
it into the wall.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (43:27):
Well, but I use it as a backup for my
tractor when I have to start my tractor.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Okay, all right, okay, all right, well.
Speaker 8 (43:36):
But if you so, are you saying that, then now
I am going to be driving my car a little
bit more. But are you saying that I should do
the trickle charger every night? Yeah, I mean have it
charged to the wall every night.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Now. No, Well, it's just it's just an option. You
don't have to. I'm just saying it's an option for you.
Speaker 8 (43:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
If you've you've got nowhere with dealer. In any other
repair shop, you're an option is you could plug in
a trickle charger and just make sure it maintains that
battery so you don't get stranded again. So I'm so sorry.
I've got to get going, Missy. Good luck, call me back, everybody,
have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
You're listening to the Car Show on fifty five krc
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On the road again. Just can't wait to get on
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
You have good afternoon, and welcome to the car show
on fifty five k r C. I'm Dane Donovan from
Donovan's Auto entire Center. Here every Saturday to answer your
car questions. The number to call five one three seven
(00:42):
four nine fifty five hundred. That number again five one
three seven four nine fifty five hundred and again here
every Saturday to Andrew Well most saturdays. Of course, Tony
Bender would yell at me because they said, I'm part time.
But I am here every Saturday. But yeah, my producers,
(01:04):
uh yelling. Yeah, he gets yelled at too, so I
get it. So but uh, I'm here as much as
I possibly can. Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I do have three.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Boys, and they are in sports and and we're having
our uh my youngest son just turned eight and h
decclan the the one that was uh so anyways, he's
celebrating his birthday. This is the third birthday party that
he's had for his eighth birthday.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
We had a.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Birthday party for him on his actual birthday, and then
we had a friend's birthday party. Now we're having a
family birthday party. You know, so you can tell who's
the who's the favorite in the in our family. I
am not in my family. I'm uh but hey, you know,
every family's got one, but I'm not so but decland
certainly's uh enjoying himself that we, uh.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
We have a bounce house.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I was actually replacing the net on our trampoline because
there's just it just looks like just I don't I'd say,
like it looks like Swiss cheese. But I already had
holes in it to begin with. But neighbors tree fell
on it. So I was doing that. My fingers are
raw trying to put the net back up. I'm sorry
(02:19):
to replace it. And we got a little bit of
a We got a bounce house, and uh so I'm
gonna have some fun this afternoon, but uh, until then,
I'm answering your car questions again. Then I'm gona call
five one three seven fifty five hundred. That number again,
five one three seven five hundred. I do want to
talk about as well.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I was on.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Let's see here, I was on. I was on with
Brian Thomas about three weeks ago. I was on with him,
and then uh Tiff Potter on uh kiss one of
seven FM. And then John John uh this Wednesday promoting
the Donovan's Cares vehicle that we're given away. And this
(03:03):
is the first year that we've done it. And I
apologize I was not here last week. I was in Cleveland,
and if anybody's ever been up to Cleveland, don't go.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
But it was it was interesting. But anyways, again, it's.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Called Donovan's Cares dot com or you can go to
donovantire dot com. So what we did is we're giving
away a twenty thirteen Subaru outback and completely scott free
where we've done all of the maintenance to it, tires, brakes,
(03:41):
all of the services, all of the maintenance, everything, and
no pun intended. This thing is turn key ready, okay.
And we had some finalists so we anybody could have
anybody could submit and put in for somebody who's in
need and need a car.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
We had some very great feedback from that and we
were down to five finalist okay, so everybody could vote.
We're down to five finalists. Okay, We're giving away the
vehicle on the August twenty ninth. Okay, we'll reveal who
wins the vehicle on August twenty ninth, but we're relying
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on the public to vote and figure out pick who
they want to win this vehicle.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Again, we're down to five finalist.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Okay, so you go to donovanscares dot com find out
the five finalists.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You can read their stories.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And and and you can submit. It's one one per email,
so one vote per email. But again, you can go
to donovanscares dot com or Donovan Tire find uh, find
your five finalists, and you.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Pick who you want to receive the vehicle.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Again, we're we're gonna reveal the finalist August twenty ninth. Okay,
so again go to donovanscares dot com and uh, we've
we've really have got some tremendous feedback from this and
hopefully we are able to do it more and more
cars every single year, and so we're really excited. It's
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it's been a it's been a challenge right now with
the with the project, you know, just trying to get
everything up and running and get it gone and and
you know, we want to make sure this thing is
again pristine, turnkey, ready to go, so everybody can whoever
receives it can you know, get back and forth to
work pick their kids up from school, you know, and
(05:38):
and and somewhat have some normalcy in their lives. Right.
If you read some of the stories, it's it's it's
kind of it's it's devastating, it's it's hard. You know,
you think you're having a bad day and you read
some of these these one of the finalists, you know,
she was in a head on collision and her whole
she was several months pregnant, and uh, they basically you know,
(06:00):
has no transportation, and so you should read the stories.
They're they're phenomenal. And again it's all there's you know,
there's no costs. We're giving the car away. It doesn't
cost anybody anything, and we're giving it away and in
need of somebody who you know, you know, to give
someone in need of.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
A vehicle, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
And it's been great, So very very pleased with the
turnout so far.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
But again, donovan'scares dot Com.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
You can go to the website and you can vote,
because it's we can't vote as far as Donovan Tire goes, right,
we're not voting on it. It's the public that can vote
on who wins the vehicle. Okay, And again it's been
a great turnout. So I listen. If you have time,
go on online and you can vote for these people.
And uh and again I I this is the first year.
(06:52):
I only hope that it gets larger and larger every year.
That's our goal. So again the number call five one
three seven four five one hundred. That number again, five
one three seven four nine fifty five one hundred. Again,
I'm taking your phone calls. Love to hear from you.
Phone lines are wide open. We do have Paul. He's
coming up shortly, but uh, man, love to hear from you.
(07:14):
That's what I'm here for to answer your car question.
So if you've got a call, please, you know, get
you right in. You won't wait very long. So so yeah,
I hope everybody's enjoying their weekend. So all right, coming up,
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One three seven four nine fifty five hundred, That number
gain five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred. Uh,
enjoying this wonderful weather we're having. This is, you know, unusual.
It was it's a little steamy, but uh it's tolerable,
right as far as it's as hot as it's been lately,
it's kind of nice to take a little you know,
(08:35):
if you're in the shade, it's perfect, right. But my son,
my youngest, had a football game this morning, and uh,
it's uh, it was a little steamy, but it's fun
to watch because everybody's like he's only in the second grade, right,
So everyone's like, oh, you're you know, he's playing tackle football.
I'm like yeah, but with all the pads and the
helmets and everything like that, it just looks like all
(08:56):
these kids are just hugging each other. You know, they
don't have enough force to really get after it and
get hurt. Right, So it's it's really fun to watch.
If you ever have an opportunity to do it, just
swing on by my boys go to All Saints. But
you know, it's it's really it's it's fun.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It really is.
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So but again, taking your phone calls and never to
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Speaker 1 (09:23):
Let's as promise, let's go to the phones. We have Paul, Hey, Paul,
welcome to the car show. How can I help?
Speaker 4 (09:29):
As it says two thousand and seven element about two
hundred and sixty two thousand miles getting the pie zero
one three three, which is you know, the air fuel
ratio is slow to respond. So do I do I
just go straight to a new two centsor or is
there anything else I can do? I think this thing's
(09:51):
been neglected a little bit for the past I don't know,
sixty seventy thousand miles and I was wrecked and I
had to rebuild the front end.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
But gotcha.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
No, I mean, for the most part, you know, ninety
nine percent of the time, it's just a bad two
cents or I'm sorry air fuel ratio sensor or so
may you know, refer to it as an oxygen sensor
or an O two sensor, but it's an air fuel
ratio sensor.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Right, you know, you can maybe check you know, you
can check the wiring, make sure all the wiring is
good at you know, at the connecting you know, maybe
unplugged the so that sensor is right up top. You
can get to it, right if you pop the hood,
it's right there. It screws right into the top of
the catalytic converter. It's right on top. You can get
to it.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Okay, Yeah, the cat's down under the car, so it's
it's it's just the first it's the first sensor on
the cat right.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, but doesn't isn't the cat at the up the
top on that Nope?
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Nope, No, No, okay, down underneath where it's easy to steal.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, gotcha, okay, uh, but anyways, you want to check
the wiring and then.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You know, if I can I.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Can clear it and you know, on another day of
driving it will eventually come back.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Right, Yeah, it's probably just fat. They're expensive, but don't buy.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I would recommend don't buy after market.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Don't buy aftermarket not on that.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Like if you're gonna buy like an aftermarket altnator or
battery or belt, okay, that's fine, But on that O
two centsor man, they sell universal ones. They sell aftermarket ones,
and you that's a specific part that you want to
make sure that you buy one that's you know, a
manufacturer to that car.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
You don't want to buy, you know, you can buy
n gk.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Is okay, right, n.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
GK Denzo or get one from Honda therek Again, they're
they're you know, two three four d dollars.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
You're expensive.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
But believe it or not, I have a two thousand
Honda Civic two thousand, right, it's twenty five years old.
My air fuel ratio sensor on that car. I don't
know why it's but they are. They they can be expensive,
so and I know that it's like.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
But like the converters for the elements, if you want
to get one from Honda, it's like over two thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, well for a while, you know, they were cutting
them out all on the preuses on the elements and yeah,
it's about two or three thousand.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Dollars to last a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, luckily that knock on would Luckily that's have
that's subsided. And we're not really having that issue anymore
because the precious metals that are inside those converters, that
those those levels, those costs, those prices have gone down,
so they're not getting as much money, so they're not
stealing them as much. So but yeah, get a Denzo
(12:52):
NNGK or get one from Honda.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
All right, all right, but yeah, most likely not. Like
I said, ninety nine percent of the time, it's a sensor.
It's not it's not anything else.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I mean, it could be you know, a computer glitch
or a computer problem or whatnot, but I would start
with that sensor first. All right, all right, thank you
very much. Yep, you take care, bye bye. That's the
thing when these with these cars. You know, again, for
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those of you out there that are you're do it yourselfers.
You want to go out there, you want to do it,
you want you you know, you may even enjoy doing it. Right,
it's a Saturday, it's beautiful out. You want to work
on your own car. Great, I've always said on the show. Look,
if you're working on your own car, you're already saving
yourself a tremendous amount of money.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Okay, because it's expensive.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
So if you're ever, if you're doing it yourself, do
yourself a favor and buy a good quality part.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You want to research it as far as the manufacturer
and who is the original equipment manufacturer of that parts? Right,
if it's a Honda, you know, just get the parts
from the dealer right now. Your car might be old
enough that you can't do that and your only option
is aftermarket. But again, don't buy the cheapest part that
(14:14):
that you can find, because they you you're already saving
yourself a tremendous amount of money. Buy a good quality
part that I'm telling you that means. It's a world
of difference. It really is, so all right again, the
number to call five one, three, seven, nine fifty five,
one hundred. We have looks like Diane, Hey, welcome to
(14:36):
the show. How can I help?
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Oh my gosh, thank you so much for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I appreciate it. Problem.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
So I have a two thousand, two thousand, two thousand.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
It's twenty five years old, so it's an antique all
all of a sudden, and so it's a Mustang convertible.
And the problem is the hydraulic on the convertible part
of it.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Is dying fast and it can go down by itself,
but at the point where it's not going up by itself,
so I need help bringing it up. Because you can't
do it by yourself. It's impossible. You have to get
someone to help you, which.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
I'm pretty good at doing.
Speaker 8 (15:11):
People like to help me.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
I can get help to do it.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But I'm tired of it.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
I want to I want it to work again.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
So I was looking at so I got some stuff
to fix the hydraulic part of it, thinking that I
could just, you know, put something into the little thing
that's a hydraulic thing and make.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
It work again.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
But I can't even find where the hydraulic thing is.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
And I go to the YouTube stuff and that's not there.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
It's not where they say it is, and it's in
the trunk like behind this back seat and everything. There's
nothing there that would be that even remotely looks like
at a hydraulic pump type of thing. Do you know
where it is?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Goodness? I unfortunately, no, I do not know where it is.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I would have to Unfortunately, I'd have to see the car,
because you're right. Sometimes they put them underneath the back seat.
Sometimes they put them behind the back seat. Sometimes they
put them on the right red you know, right rear fender.
Sometimes they put around the left rear fender. Man, I don't, But.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Wouldn't they need one for either side or one does
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Usually one does all of it. There isn't one on
each side, not that I'm aware of. But again, you
know the problem is is we don't work on convertible
top because you get into a convertible top and that's
a whole other monster.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
It's a whole nother I'm dealing with one right now.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
That Yeah, there's not easy.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, look at it.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Even replacing the convertible top that you can replace it,
then you can get the replacement for it everything.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
But if you get the wrong replacement, like if it's
a glass it's.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Real glass on the convertible, or if it's that plastic
craft that's it makes it different.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
They don't all, it's not all universal.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, oh I know, Oh, I know. That's I know.
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
And it's not cheap.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
I'm like, they're four hundred and five, it's not it's
not exhorbitant.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
I mean like five in bucks for the whole convertible art.
That's not awful, but it's still you get the wrong one.
It's and that's not you know, a return that.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
You'd rather not deal with. So yeah, I appreciate your help.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
Yeah, so I got to bring it somewhere.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, so here's what i'd recommend. Who i'd recommend in
the since are you in the Cincinnati area?
Speaker 8 (17:21):
Yeah, I just have Fairfield Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
So who I use is down by my shop.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I've used them for you know, the thirty years I've
been doing this. But Fisher Griffin. It's down on Martin
Martin Luther King downtown. That's who I use. They do
all of my convertible stuff. I would call them. They'd
be more happy to take a look at it for you.
That's where I would take it if it was my car.
(17:47):
Fisher Griffin, call them up. They're all Martin Luther King
down you know, near downtown. But they've been in business
for long. I think as long as Donovan Tyre has
been in business.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
So call that if I.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Tell them, if I tell them, you'll set you sent me,
they'll be nice to me.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You say, Donovan's Dane at Donovan Tire sent me and
he said that you'll take care of me.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
So I promise you they will. All right, Okay, thank
you for your You're welcome, good Saturday.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
All right, thank you, by bye. You know, that's the
thing about convertible tops. You know, you think, like I said,
I've been dealing with one right now. In fact, I
got a kind of a not so nice email this morning.
But we don't we don't do them at Donnovan Tire.
We do not do convertible tops. We do not work
on them. Uh, they are a whole other monster. Okay,
(18:40):
So I know it sounds like, oh well it's part
of the car Dane. Why doesn't Donovan's work on a
convertible top. Convertible tops are something that is a unique,
is unique, and you don't really you really have to
have the proper tools and the right set of skills
to work on it.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
So the best way that the best analogy that I
could use is if you had a heart problem. Okay,
let's just say again, you got a heart problem, right,
you wouldn't go to your general physician, just say hey,
can you take can can you go ahead and open
open me up, do open heart surgery and fix my heart?
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
You really really need to have somebody that's a specialist
when it comes to this stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
So we're working on one. Well, we're not working on it.
Vehicle came in to our shop. Unfortunately, Uh, convertible tops
you usually have to fold into the trunk. This customer
had luggage in the trunk, forgot about it, tried to
put the top down, broke something. Okay, again, we don't
do it. So but out of the kindness of our hearts,
(19:42):
I took it to the dealer too. I'm not gonna
mention any names or whatnot. Took it to the dealer,
have them look at it. They've had it for six
weeks and can't fix it. And now this is a
this is a pretty newer car, like I mean, it's
only a couple of years old.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
So Fisher Griffin in that particular Mustang was a two thousand, right,
Fisher Griffin could take care of that with the newer stuff.
There's so many censors and so and again the car
is only a.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Couple of years old.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
So I send it to the dealer and they are
struggling to figure out why it won't work. So I
have it at a top notch dealer here in Cincinnati,
and they've had it for six weeks and they can't
fix it. So I mean, I don't like convertibles. I
never have, I never will. If you want the top down,
buy a Jeep or a Bronco, right, buy a four
(20:40):
Bronco or a Jeep. If you want the top off,
do not buy a convertible if you can. There's too
many mechanisms, too many moving parts, too many things to break,
and when they break, it's extremely expensive. So again in
the email I received, hey listen, it's just gonna need
a whole new top. And it's twenty five thousand dollars.
It's not covered, it's not under warranty, it's out a warranty.
(21:03):
It's twenty five thousand dollars if they want their convertible
top to work. So, uh, it's expensive. So you think
about that when you're buying one. And if you have
a vehicle an older vehicle, that it's mechanical, use it
as least as you the least amount of time as
you can. Like I have a newer vehicle, newer truck,
(21:26):
and I don't my boys get it. I'm like, don't
touch any buttons, don't touch anything. The more you move it,
the more it's gonna break. But uh so, anyways, if
you if you have a if you can avoid buying
a convertible, please do because they are a nightmare to
fix and most shops won't fix them. You have to
find a specialist. Alright again, the number to call five
(21:48):
one three five hundred. That number gain five one three
seven fifty five hundred phone lines are why I'll why open.
But coming up, we have Chuck. You're listening to the
Car Show on fifty five KRC, the talk station. Way
back in nineteen fifty eight, my grandfather opened Donovan's Auto
entire Center right here in Cincinnati. A lot has changed
(22:08):
since then, but our commitment to honest auto repair hasn't.
We believe in making sure your vehicle gets everything it
needs and nothing it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Because as a.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Family owned business with our name on the wall, integrity matters.
From nineteen fifty eight, to today, Donovan's Auto entire Center
is still Cincinnati's honest choice for auto repair and we're
proud to keep this city moving.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Three area locations.
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Find yours at donovantire dot com.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
No shaming here. We like to hear your thoughts and opinions.
Fifty five krc D talk station taking your car questions.
The number to call five one.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Three seven four nine fifty five hundred and five one
three seven four nine fifty five hundred and I am
Dane Donovan from Donovan's Auto entire Center.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Again.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I talked about it earlier in the show, but this
year we are giving away a twenty thirteen Super rub
and uh.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Again, I've been on several stations here.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
And I AT I AT, iHeart and promoting it. And again,
if you want to learn more about it, if you
want to vote on the finalist again, go to Donovanscares
dot com or you can go to donald Tire dot com.
Find it and you can read their stories and then
you can vote on who on who we give the
vehicle to. And again, this is the first year that
(23:28):
we've done it. We've gotten absolutely great feedback and it's
been a hit, and I hope that we can do
this time at year after year after year and just
get bigger and bigger and bigger and hopefully you know,
give away ten cars. You know. So, but again, go
to Donovanscares dot com and you can vote, and uh,
(23:50):
we're gonna announce the winner on August twenty ninth. So
my my lovely wife was out getting everything ready for
the birthday party that we're having this afternoon, and she
just texted me and said, oh, my license has expired.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
They won't let me buy beer at the grocery store.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Sir, I've got things to do after I leave here.
So all the all the things we do for our kids.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
So all right, let's go back to the phones we have. Chuck, Hey, Chuck,
welcome to the car show. How can I help?
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Well, thank you for taking my call today. I am
looking for some help or just a suggestion or a guess.
We went to a grandson's soccer game this morning and
we were fortunate just to get back to the service
station with our car, this two thousand and six Cadillac CPS.
(24:46):
It it starts missing. It's like you if you just
have your foot level on the pedal, like you lifted
it off real quick. The car jerks, it'll jerk. This
all started maybe a month ago. The chuck engine light
came on. We took it to a service station and
they said, oh, it's saying catalytic convert but they said, oh,
it's very seldom not, so they turned it off instead.
(25:09):
If it comes back, we'll check some things out. Anyway,
it started missing, so we took it in and they
they replaced a canister purge solenoid or a vapor canister
something that, and we drove it a couple of days
and it started missing again real bad, so we took
(25:29):
it out and they replaced a mass airflow sensory and
that ran pretty good for two or three days, and
then we were in a fifth third atm and it
quit and it would not start, so we had to
have a towed back out and they said that censor
was bad, so it replaced it again. Anyway, we went
to blue Ash yesterday and came back. No, no, no,
(25:54):
I'm sorry. It started missing again, so we took it out.
They had it Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday and said they
can't recreate ate it, so keep driving it. So yesterday
we went to blue Ash and came back to seventy
five going up that hill from Coney Island. It was
crazy the way the car was jerking and jerking and jerking,
and my wife was driving anyway, We got home and
(26:15):
he kept doing it. So this morning we went to
the soccer game and we had my son pick us
up at the service station again. So it's up there.
They said, bring it back next week, but it's up
there now. They said they're having trouble figuring it out
and they can't. They couldn't duplicate it. So any suggestion
with that could be.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Well, let me ask you something, because you're telling me, hey,
it's misfiring, it's jerking, it's bucking, it's jerking, and it's
and but they've replaced a perchs illinoid which wouldn't cause that,
and then they've replaced a mass airflow sensor which wouldn't
cause that. So did they indicate to you what if
(26:56):
they had any if what the check edge light was
on for what.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
The toads were.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
They said when it was on like a month ago,
that it was the the catalytic converter. It was what
it was saying, right. But see now they keep asking
me when I called yesterday they said any check engine
lights and I said no, okay.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I mean, you know, I'm confused as to I mean, yeah,
converter won't cause that the bucking and the jerking and
or the misfiring that you're expressing to me, is yet
mass airflow sensor really isn't going to do that.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It's certainly a perd sellinoid is not going to do
that either. How many miles are on it? Okay? And
do you have.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Any history as to maybe when that, when a tune
up was done, spark plugs replaced?
Speaker 7 (27:50):
I do not on that when we bought the car,
probably a year.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Ago, okay, Okay, So here's so a lot of times
if you have a spark plug the that is wore out.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That'll cause it.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
If you have if the porcelain on the spark plug
is cracked, that can cause it. Or the ignition coil,
which the coil is what sends the spark to the
spark plug.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Okay, a coil can cause that.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Now, a coil can cause that, and it never flag
a check engine light. Never right, So typically you put
it on a scale on a on a computer, you
wouldn't be able to do this. We would have to
do that, or a shop would be able to put
it on a scanner, drive it and watch the fire
the firing order and watch and if a coil is misfiring,
(28:41):
it'll drop off and it'll show that on a on
on the screen on a diagram.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Right, it almost looks like a heartbeat.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Right, you're like, okay, one's fire, and two's fire, and
threes fire and force front, you know, so, and then
if one of them drops out and doesn't and doesn't fire,
then it'll drop down and it'll be like at zero, right,
so you'll see like the huge swing like all the
way down and then back up. So I would check again,
converter is not going to cause that mass airflow sensor
(29:11):
could cause a running issue, but not like a misfire
type bucking jerking kind of you know, running bad. That's
not it'll it'll bawl down, right, So you might like
hit the gas and just goes bum and you don't.
It won't move, but it won't cause what you're experiencing.
And again the purge valve of illinoid won't cause a
(29:32):
running issue as well. So I think you have now
again on a misfire. A couple of things real quick.
You know, sometimes you could sit there. What I would
recommend is, hey, let's get on carfacts or you can
even call me on You can call me any day
this week. I can't do it from here, but you
(29:52):
call me any day this week. Give me your license plate.
I can run a carfax report and I can tell
you if it's been tuned up or not.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Very easy. Yeah, just give me. Just give me your
license plate, nmory.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I don't need it now, I'm saying, call me at
at work and you can just tell them when just
say hey, I spoke to Dane on the radios. On
the radio, he told me to call. All I need
is your license plate. I can run a carfax report
on it and find out if it's been tuned up.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
If not, that's where we need to go.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
So what I recommend too, whether it's at that shop
or any other shop, make sure whether it be in
a cadllac, make sure you buy AC Delco spark plugs,
AC Delco coil so you might be one of those
things where you're gonna have to replace because if there's
if there's no codes in there, there's you know, the mechanic.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Whether you bring it to me, or anybody else.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
They're not going to have anything to go off of, right,
I mean, I can see it on us. If they
have the proper tools, they can run it, drive it,
and if it acts up, they'll be able to see
which cylinder is misfired and acting up. But you you
were you replace the spark plugs, all the spark plugs,
and all the coils.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Now that's very expensive.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
You don't necess necessarily have to do that, but you
cover all your bases, right, But it's going to be
very expensive to go that route. So you want it
on a scan tool and you want them to run,
you know, you want them to run it figure out
exactly what's caused, which one's causing that. Now, let's just
say you replace the spark plugs and you do replace
the coils and it's still acting up. Well, an injector
could be could be bad and causing that as well. Now,
(31:22):
injectors are extremely expensive to install and put in. Ninety
nine percent of the time, it's never an injector. It's
always a spark plug or coil issue. And at one
hundred and eighty thousand miles, you probably have one or
multiple ignition coils that are failing because their job is
to send the spark to the spark plug. But over time,
if the plugs are wore out, that ignition coil is
(31:42):
having to work harder and harder and harder because you know,
it's having to produce more spark for that spark plug
because it's wore out.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
So if I were you, I replaced all the spark plugs,
all the coils again expensive, but I would get ac
Delco parts because coils are you know, you can get
them on You can go to Amazon and find a
whole pack of them for a hundred bucks and you're
gonna be like, oh, you know, but if you buy
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an a AC Delca one, you're gonna probably pay one
hundred and twenty five one hundred and fifty bucks apiece
and you got eight of them, or I don't have
the six cylinder eight okay, So you know. So that's
that's what I would do, and that's where I would
start for sure. But like I said, if you call
me on Monday, give me your license plate and I
can run a carfax report, we can find if it's
been done if it's not, that's where we need to start.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Wow. So that's the coils and the plugs that would
be that would give you the intermittent type of deal where.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Fine, absolutely, yep, absolutely so sol So that's really really
so typically when you have a spark plug issue, it's
going to be there. It's it's gonna be at what
we call a dead mess. It's gonna be there pretty
much all the time. We're on a coil. It'll be intermittent. Right,
you'll drive it for you know, you drive it from
here to Florida. And I had the problems and then
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all of a sudden, you started up tomorrow morning and
you're going to the grocery store. Man, it's bucket, it's jerking,
it's running. And that's what they that's what they do
a lot of times they'll run. They'll run worse two
when it's cold or if it's raining because of the moisture.
But very very indicative, very it sounds to me like
you've got a coil issue. And again, if there's no
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codes in the computer, then it's never gonna flag one.
So that's why I'm like, hey, just cover your bases,
do the tune up, replace all the coils, buy good,
good quality coil. You cover all your bases. And that's
the other thing. Real quick, real quick, on that converter code.
Did he give you a code as far as like
a PO four twenty or anything like that, he did, I.
Speaker 7 (33:42):
Don't remember that. I actually went out and he said,
I took it off. If it comes back, bring it
back and will.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
It was probably an efficiency code, meaning that the converter
is not The converter acts as a furnace and any
unburned fuel and the exhaust it burns off inside there.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
So it's probably just not doing that.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
But I will tell you if a converter is plugged up,
now you'll never get a code for this. But if
a converters plugged up where it's it's you know, completely
the car can't breathe right. The exhaust can come back
up in the cylinder and calls a misfire.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
But it doesn't. I mean, it's gonna again. It's gonna
be like a dead miss.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
It's it's it's not gonna be one of those things
where it's gonna be hit or miss. It's gonna do
it all the time. So I think you just need
you probably have a one or multiple coils that are
acting up.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
So dude, well that's some good suggestions, and yes it
is there for me. So thank you, thank.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
You, very welcome. All right, well you have a great weekend.
Enjoy enjoy the weather. Ah bye bye. That's the thing
that these cars can be. Uh, they can be tricky,
You certainly can. So all right again. Taking your phone
calls and number call five one, three, seven, nine fifty
five one hundred. Coming up, we have Missy and Dan.
Listen to the car show on fifty five KRC the
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talk station.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
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Speaker 1 (35:26):
Taking your car questions.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
The number to call five one, three, seven four nine
fifty five hundred Dane Donovan here from Donovan's Auto entire Center.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
I apologize for the hesitation there. I was yawning.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Uh getting old. I have to take naps in the
middle of the day. So let's go back to the phones.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
We have Missy. Hey, Missy, welcome to the car show.
How can I help Hi?
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Thanks for taking my car. I have a twenty twenty
sixteen Honda CRV call wheel drive, has about sixty four
thousand miles on it, and I keep up with the
maintenance on it at a reliable place, and I've had
to replace the battery three separate times. One time was
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twelve sixteen of twenty two, then nine eleven of twenty four,
then just recently August eighteenth of twenty five. Of course
I take it to reliable places, but not the dealership,
and I'm curious. They have both said this. Most recent time,
I took it just to get another opinion, and they're
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all coming up with they can't find what's wrong. All
the draw tests were done to the specifications of Honda.
They were fine. So I'm having to take it to Honda.
Can you tell me what can I expect and the
cost and what happens if they tell me, so they
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can't find anything.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Well, that's a great point.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
So I'm going to ask you a couple of questions
on the vehicle itself.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Are you driving is this? Is it a daily driver?
Are you driving it daily?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Does it sit for long periods of the time? It
doesn't necessarily have to be driven every day, but I mean,
is it driven at least a couple of times a week?
Speaker 8 (37:23):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Okay, yes, it is, all right?
Speaker 8 (37:26):
And then maybe maybe fifty miles a week okay, okay,
they do a hundred hundreds max.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Okay, okay. And then is does the car sit outside
or is it sit in a garage?
Speaker 8 (37:39):
In a garage?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
And then is there anything that is plugged into the
cigarette lighter, a cell phone charger or anything like that?
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Never?
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Okay, all right, good, good, good.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
And then as far as the three batteries that you
had replaced, you don't have to give anything like that.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
But is it is the battery? Do you know what
kind of battery?
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Like the brand of the battery Delco Delco? Okay, mm hmm,
that's weird, okay, ac Delco. Okay, that's a good back,
that's a good it's a good battery okay. And then
as far as those three batteries that have been replaced,
did they replace those under warranty or are you charged
for those all three of those batteries.
Speaker 8 (38:25):
No, they've been replaced under warranty.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Okay, Okay, good, So I'm you know, and.
Speaker 8 (38:33):
Most recently when you go out, of course, it just
clicks and then it's completely dead. So I know how
to jump it myself.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Good for you, But I'm just so.
Speaker 8 (38:44):
I just you know, I'm sort of out of loss.
I don't want to take it to the dealership, but
I don't know what they're going to say. What can
I expect? Yeah, so you know what happens if they
tell me we don't see anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Well, they're gonna probably tell you that. I'm just not
to pick on them that. But here here, here's here's
what happens. So a lot of the times, you can
have what's called an intermittent electrical draw right, So there
might be a short and a wire. There might be
short in a ball, there might be a short in
the radio, okay, meaning that at any point, so you
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might have that thing parked in the in the garage,
right and in the middle of the night, the radio
comes on and then drains the battery right, and then
you jump it, take it to the dealer. Radio is
working fine. They do their test and they're like, hey,
we can't find anything. Not to say that it's not there,
but you could be dealing with what's called an intermittent
(39:42):
electrical draw something possibly in the car could be could
be drawing the battery down that you're not aware of it.
Right again, you know, I had a vehicle, I had
an F one fifteen not too long ago.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
The battery would just die overnight.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
So I literally parked it underneath one of my security
cameras at work and right like two o'clock in the more,
I mean, the dash, the radio, everything came on and
then the car died right because it was it would
just stay, it would just come on because there was
a there was an intermittent electrical short. So they can
run every test in the book and not find anything wrong.
(40:15):
So probably I will tell you if you get it there,
even if you take it to the dealer, they're gonna
probably tell you the same thing.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
They can't find anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Not to say that there isn't something going on, but
they're probably not going to be able to find anything.
It's one of those things where I hate to see it,
but it's kind of like a it's a needle in
a haystack. It's it has to be acting up for
them to try to actively find what's drawing that or
what's causing.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
That battery to die.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Now, do you have to your knowledge, do you have
Bluetooth capability where you can take hands free like you
can take a phone call uh on, through your through
the radio or through the vehicle the car itself.
Speaker 8 (40:53):
Yeah, but yeah, I don't use it, okay. So and
and I try and turn off my radio and my air.
I've been doing this a little more when I get
out of the car for the night.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Okay, Okay. So here here's why I asked about the Bluetooth.
So Honda and Accura right there, they're the same company,
their actors just you know, more expensive Honda, right. But
their Bluetooth what's called the Bluetooth module. There's a computer
a module that runs that that system. Okay, and very
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very commonly that Bluetooth module will fail internally and cause
a battery drawl or an electrical draw. Now, usually when
those fail, they have a constant draw and you. Most
repair shops would be able to find that immediately. But
that's something that maybe have them look at and just say, hey,
(41:50):
look here's the problem, here's what here's what I'm dealing with.
Can you also maybe just check the Bluetooth module again,
it's for your hands free FU have them check that
again or what we typically do. So it's so expensive
to replace it, and like you said, you allude to
like Dane Adam, I don't use it. So what we
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do at Donovan's we just don't plug it.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
It's all you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
You get, you find the module, you unplug it, boom,
you're done. You just don't have hands free rate phone.
But it stops your draw right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
So.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
But have them check that. That's a very very common
problem on hondas. But again, if it please you know,
I know it's frustrating, but you know, don't lose faith
in the dealer or wherever.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
You're taking it. It can be one of those things.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
I mean, we found a short one time underneath the
carpet underneath the seat, right and it's like, how does
that even happen? But it happens, you know. But uh,
if you've put three batteries in it in that short
amount of time. Yeah, something may intermittently be drawing that
battery and you know kind of the other thing that
you can do too. If you're like Dane took it
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to the dealer. You know, I'm so frustrated. I don't
want to have to be stranded or have to jump
my car constantly. You can buy and you can go
on Amazon or anywhere else. You can buy what's called
a trickle charger. I have that already, a trickle charger
or just a so you're like plugging it into the wall,
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like when you pull it in the garage, you're plugging
it into the wall.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (43:27):
Well, but I use it as a backup for my
tractor when I have to start my tractor.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Okay, all right, okay, all right, well.
Speaker 8 (43:36):
But if you so, are you saying that, then now
I am going to be driving my car a little
bit more. But are you saying that I should do
the trickle charger every night? Yeah, I mean have it
charged to the wall every night.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Now. No, Well, it's just it's just an option. You
don't have to. I'm just saying it's an option for you.
Speaker 8 (43:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
If you've you've got nowhere with dealer. In any other
repair shop, you're an option is you could plug in
a trickle charger and just make sure it maintains that
battery so you don't get stranded again. So I'm so sorry.
I've got to get going, Missy. Good luck, call me back, everybody,
have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
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