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Speaker 1 (00:03):
There with a four barrel car with a Duelo saut.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Good afternoon, and welcome with the Car Show on fifty
five KRC, the talk station. I'm Dane Donovan here and alive.
I do apologize. I have been absent for the past
couple of weeks. I have h you know, as as
you may know, it's a beautiful Saturday, and uh but uh,

(00:38):
I have three boys and they are in sports all
year round and just in uh you know, at the
beginning of the school year starts football and football games
are always on Saturdays, mostly uh everywhere. Every once in
a while we have them on Sundays. But I have
just been last last Saturday, for an example, I had

(01:03):
we had to be at the football field at seven
point thirty and we had what I'm thinking, two football games,
two birthday parties, and we got home at nine o'clock.
So it was very we we we don't stop. So
I do apologize, but yes, I'm doing well. I am
here here to answer your car questions. The number to

(01:26):
call five one, three seven hundred. That number again, five
one three seven fifty five hundred. Again.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
We were out late last night.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
We went down to the Era, we went up I
should say uh out or out to the Molar Xavier
football game, which was a great uh great event, great
game Molar one.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
And so we got home.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
By by the time we got out of traffic and whatnot,
it was a little late late for me. I go
to bed, you know, you know, I turned into a
pumpkin after nine o'clock, so late for me. And then
we had to get up early this morning because my
youngest had a football game and had to be at
the field by by eight thirty. So I was.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
I laid down right after the game, you know, I
you know, I'm old.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Now I'll be forty one on Tuesday, okay, And and
you know I can't bounce back like I used to.
You know, when I was in my mid twenties, you
know you could go out and stay out till till
mid nine or two o'clock, bounce back up and go
about your day. Well I've realized, and I'm telling you
what when I turned forty, I mean it was like

(02:38):
a light switch all of a sudden, and well, I
was like, you know what, I'm just gonna lay down
and relax, which again, in my opinion, I do need
to do.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Don't stop. We just don't stop.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
My wife and I mainly my wife, she she does
most of the run and but you know, laid down. Anyways,
as I'm I've got the TV on in the background,
and I've talked about this is no matter what station
you listen to, they're always pumping these you know, aftermarket

(03:12):
warranty companies, and uh, I'm just I'm like, you know
what I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
I'm gonna, I've got this platform.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I'm gonna talk about it because it's something that I
see daily and it's something that you need to be
aware of, and that is these things are the biggest
scam and waste of your money.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
So you know, I was like, you know what I'm gonna,
I'm gonna bring it up.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
And we talk about this all the time on the
show about changing the oil and getting it done. But please,
if you are buying a used now let me reiterate.
If you're buying a new vehicle, okay, and this is impair.
This is important that you ask these questions. If you
are buying a new vehicle, ask them if they have

(04:00):
an extended factory warranty.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I recently had the opportunity to buy a new vehicle
and I asked, do you have an extended factory warranty
and they said, yes, we do. It's through Ford. It
extends the factory warranty. It's not an aftermarket. It's through Ford,
and it extends it to seven years or seven years
or one hundred thousand miles. And you know, it's a

(04:27):
it's an extra eight grand. And I said, all right,
let's do it. I want to do it because you know,
an additional four years or one hundred thousand miles is
a lot. So I purchased it. But for those of
you who are buying a used vehicle, okay, again, if

(04:47):
it's still under the factory warranty, say you buy a
used you know, twenty twenty four Hunday or KIEP. It's
you are the second owner, so it's not a ten year,
one hundred thousand mile warranty.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
It does reduce it.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
I think, I don't HOWE me do this, but I
think it goes down to if you're the second owner,
it goes from one hundred thousand to sixty thousand. But
you might want to check with your manufacturer whoever you've
purchased your vehicle through. But anyways, if you're buying a
used vehicle and your salesman. And I'm not not dogging

(05:20):
on salesmen. They're they're just doing their job. They're trying
to sell cars, right, But if they're trying to sell
you a after market warranty for your vehicle, please do
not buy it. I don't care who it's through, I
don't care what they're offering. They offer you everything in

(05:40):
the world, and then by the time it gets to
me and I'm working on it or I'm looking at it,
they are a headache and a nightmare. I basically have
to beg for my money. They won't pay anybody's labor rate.
They only pay a certain you know, these are the
things they don't tell you. They don't pay diagnostic fees,
they don't pay shop supply fees, they don't pay any

(06:01):
type of tax. They only pay a certain amount of
our labor. You know, most repair shops are anywhere between
one hundred and twenty five to one hundred or I
think the dealers are some of the some of the
higher end dealers BMW, Mercedes, what there are over two
hundred dollars an hour for labor, and these aftermarket warranty

(06:21):
companies will only pay you know, up up to you know,
the most I've ever seen pay is like seventy five
dollars an hour.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
And I don't know of any shops.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I'm sure there are shops out there that pay that,
uh that, or asked or you know, request seventy five
dollars an hour, but most shops, at least here in
the Tristate area, are not going to be paying. You know,
you're not paying seventy five dollars an hour, So you
factor that all in and then you have a sometimes

(06:53):
most of the time it's a five hundred to one
thousand dollars deductible which you're responsible for. And then they
only want to put used parts or aftermarket parts on
your car, right, so then you're fighting with them on that.
And then they want to put inferior parts and parts
that are used, and it's a nightmare. And then you

(07:15):
take a process that should be one day and you
drag it out up to a week because I got
to call them, spend hours.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
On the phone. I then have to turn around and
wait for their approval.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
If the estimate's too high, then they have to send
out their own mechanic to verify that. What I found
is you know, the right thing it needs, the vehicle needs.
And then they go, okay, well here's the parts. Well
we're going to get our own parts. We'll have them
shipped in. You put these parts on, right, and again
they're not dealer quality. They might be a part, but

(07:50):
it's not what you, in my opinion, should be putting
on your vehicle. And then you know, and then you
know you're left with you know, the bill might be
three thousand dollars and you're still stuck paying half of it.
And in my opinion, they're just there. They're a nightmare,
you know. You know, if you had health insurance, you

(08:10):
know everybody has. I mean, I understand that insurance is important.
Your health insurance, life insurance, car insurance, home insurance, those
are important, right, those are, but an aftermarket warranty is
something that you should not buy. They are a racket
and they are a massive waste of time in your
in your money. Okay. You know, if if you had

(08:30):
health insurance, right and you go to your doctor and
he goes, hey, look, you know you have problem with
one of the one of the you know, valves in
your heart, and he's like, well, we can you know,
we can throw this cheap one in just because that's
what our insurance company wants to do. You would probably say,
I don't think so, we're going to do the right thing.
We're gonna put the right part right, valve in my
heart right or you know. You know, I'm not a doctor,

(08:53):
so a car doctor, but you know what I mean
when it deals with your body, you're gonna sit there
and go, no, I don't I want something that's cheap
just because the insurance company won't pay for it. I
want what's best for me and my body. You should
also feel that same way with your car. And uh,
I just I so many people are taking advantage of,

(09:15):
in my opinion, on these aftermarket warranties. And I'm telling
you if you, I mean, if you've purchased one, it
is what it is, right. Most of them will be
just a one time payment of you know, two thousand
or three thousand dollars. It's not the end of the world, right,
But I have seen some people they buy these cars

(09:36):
at these buy here, pay here lots and they're paying,
you know, one hundred and seventy five dollars a month
for the life of the car for this warranty. And
I had one gentleman. His warranty wouldn't pay for anything.
He's like, well, then why am I paying a heart
twenty five dollars a month? And I'm like, how long
do you have to pay a hudred twenty five dollars
a month? Because as long as I own the vehicle,

(09:57):
I'm like, cancel that thing right now. You could put
one hundred and seventy five dollars a month into your
bank account or I mean that's not really where you
want to put stash cash, but or into an investment
account so that it makes money, because one hundred and
seventy five dollars for what you have is not doing
you any good.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
So just listen.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
I keep seeing them, and I get phone calls every
single day and they go, hey, I get this all
the time. Hey do you take this after market war trig? No,
we don't take any aftermarket warrantors? Hey do you take
because people are calling around? People are calling around not
because they want the best deal, because nobody takes them.
They are a nightmare. No, most after or most repair

(10:41):
shops will not take these aftermarket warranties, and people are
finding that out the hard way. So on this show,
I'm going to continue to tell you do not buy them.
If you're in the market to buy a new or used,
primarily a used vehicle, I do not recommend any after

(11:02):
market warranty period. Okay, so take that money, put it
in your investment account, and let that money grow because
you're wasting it. So it's there. They are a nightmare
some alright again, taking your phone calls and omber to
call five one three seven fifty five hundred. That number
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(11:24):
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Speaker 2 (11:56):
Call five one three eight.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
Two nine ninety thirty eight two nine.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Taking your car questions again the number toll call five
one three seven fifty five hundred. Then again five one
three seven nine fifty five hundred. Again. Yes, I am alive.
I am here in studio. It is a gorgeous day.
If you guys are listening, you probably have the windows down.
It's one of those you don't need air conditioning days.

(12:24):
You just put the window down and listen to a
little bit of music. That's what I was doing on
the way in here. And uh, I thought about bringing
geting my bike out, but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
It was just too much hasslesome, not the pedal bike.
Uh those days are over. I'm I'm too old for
that stuff. So anyways, all right, let's go to the phones.
We have Paul.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Hey, Paul, welcome to the car show.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
How can I help well?

Speaker 7 (12:50):
Quick follow up on my two thousand and seven Hell,
I'm in a new air fuel sensor. Fixed the problem
with that one. But I've got a two thousand and
eight element It started. I guess the best way to
describe it is like a high frequency clatter or not

(13:11):
quite clatter, but it's almost a high frequency buzzing when
it started. But it's gotten louder. It's and and and
the oil pressure started dropping as well. It's it's run
almost sixty to fifty to sixty percent of what it

(13:33):
normally runs. I guess I suspect an oil pump. The
oil pump is failing. But you know, people tell me
how the oil pumps never failed.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
But I've never seen.

Speaker 7 (13:48):
Yeah. Well, okay, but the frequency of the noise is,
you know, it follows engine speed. It doesn't sound like
rods or rods or pistons. It had me just connecting
rod bearings with a two hundred and five thousand. It's
now at two hundred and sixty eight.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
How many miles are on it?

Speaker 7 (14:13):
Two hundred and sixty eight?

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Okay, So that the clattering or the noise that you're hearing, obviously,
when you rev it up, it intensifies, correct it?

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yes, okay?

Speaker 3 (14:25):
And I mean that vehicle correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
It doesn't. Haven't Does it have an oil? Does it
have a gauge or does it just have a red oil?

Speaker 7 (14:33):
I haven't I have an aftermarket gauge installed so ikay
because it had it had an oil pressure problem where
with the VTEX system, and I started running five W
forty oil to help keep the oil pressure up. So
I've been I've been limping along like that for thirty

(14:55):
some thousand miles and it seemed to be seemed to
be happy enough with it. So to evaluate the oil pot,
you gotta drop the pan, you know, because it's on
the bottom of the block. You drop the pin. You
either have to drop the engine cradle or or lift

(15:18):
the engine off the cradle in the vehicle, which I've
done before. But would you bother trying to diagnose that one,
or I actually had a rebuilt the engine ready to go,
would you just go ahead and put the rebuilt in?

Speaker 2 (15:35):
And well, I mean take.

Speaker 7 (15:38):
Your time to diagnose. You know, if it's an oil pomp,
I could probably put one on and drop the engine
back back down and go on the merry way.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
But well, I mean, like I said, I have never.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Again.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
I just I just celebrated twenty six years at Donovan
Tire that you know, and i I've never in twenty
six years, I've never seen a Honda oil pump fail.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Ever.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
So now with that said, the clattering that I think
you're hearing is probably does it seem like it's coming
maybe from the passenger side of the engine, Like.

Speaker 7 (16:19):
It's hard to it's hard to tell. I could actually
send you a video if you wanted to see it.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
If you can email, it's hard to tell.

Speaker 7 (16:28):
It sounds like it's it's almost the same noise from
the top persus you know, the bottom looking from the
passenger side. Man, Well, what I did, take the valve
cover off and that you know, the cams and rocker
arms all seem fine. The timing chain, at least the
upper chain feels like it's still tight. So I don't

(16:51):
think it's I don't think it's in the top end
like that.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, well, i'd be interesting so much further. Yeah, I mean,
I mean, i'd be interested in you send me that video.
But here's what I believe. So here's here's what happens.
Not now, probably ninety nine percent of any type of
engine noise that comes from a Honda or accurate engine
is gonna come from the timing chain. Now, there's a

(17:18):
couple of things that can cause it. One, the timing
chain tensionor is usually the biggest culprit Okay.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Now it runs off of oil pressure. Okay.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Now again, if you have low oil pressure, that tensioner
is not gonna get the proper oil pressure and then
not put enough tension on the chain. Okay, So we
could again be just because I haven't seen it doesn't
mean it can't happen. Okay, But the tension itself most
likely has failed, resulting in not putting enough tension on

(17:51):
that chain, resulting in the chain slapping and hitting the
side of the case.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
That's what I see the most of Now.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
The other thing is is the change if they are
ran the engines, if they're ran low on oil, the
chains themselves will get hot, they will stretch, and they
will jump a tooth again resulting in a you know, uh,
an engine slap on the side of the case. The
other thing is a lot of times there are plastic

(18:20):
guides that are god that those chains run on, and
those guides over time. It happened to me on my
I have a two thousand and seven f one fifty,
My plastic guides broke and and uh, I mean I
had engine problems immediately, right, But those guides over time
will break and then that chain is riding on metal right,

(18:43):
so that plastic guide's gone, is riding on metal. So
in my opinion, I again I would like to hear
the noise. In my opinion, you either have a tension
or that's failed and it's not keeping the proper tension
on those which I think that's your case. Two you've
got a chain that's stretched that's hitting the case. Or
three you've got a plastic guide that's broke on one

(19:06):
of those chains, and the result of your noise as well.
So I don't I personally don't think that you need
to go to the point of dropping the pan, replacing
the pomp and so on and so forth.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
I really do believe.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
I mean, I do timing chains and guides intentioners on
Hondas almost weekly. It's a very common problem. We do
those all the time, and in twenty six years, I've
never seen a Honda oil pump fail. So I think
you're dealing with the chain or tension or guide issue,
and I would look into that.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Now, like you said, you pulled the valve cover.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Now that chain's gonna run between those two top gears,
those two VVT gears at the top.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Now, I'll be honest.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
With you, you're not gonna see a ton of tention. You're
gonna sit there and go, oh, yeah, it seems pretty tight.
But really you need to get in the belly of
the beast and pull the side of the engine off.
And I guarantee you one of those guys with that
tension or is loose.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
I mean I would, I would result.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
I mean you could put a chain on that car,
to put a chain new guides in a tensioner, I
mean fifteen hundred bucks.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
I would at least start there.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
I don't think you have a pump issue, but if
you want to, I'd love for you to send me
that video. Let me listen to it, okay, and then
call and then send it to me. Send it to me.
Can you send it to me email?

Speaker 7 (20:28):
Yeah, okay, Well I can send you to short YouTube video,
so I could send you the link.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Okay, I'd be great.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
So it's just my name, Dane d A n E
at donovantyre dot com. Dane at donovantire dot com. Send
it to me, let me listen to it, and then
if you want, put your contact information in there and
I'll call you back or you can call me back
next Saturday. It's your discretion, but uh, put your contact
information there, let me listen to it.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
I think you. I think we're dealing with the chain issue.
I really do.

Speaker 7 (21:00):
Okay, so maybe I don't believe.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Don't give up on it, j Yeah.

Speaker 7 (21:05):
No, I'm not going to give up on it because
the rest of it's in. Even at hundred sixty eight
now over many years it is. It's too good shape
to give up on.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Right, all right, Well, I appreciate the phone call and
send it to me, and uh, well we'll be in
touch soon.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
All right, thank you, sir.

Speaker 7 (21:24):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
All right, bye bye, all.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Right again, I'm taking your phone calls and I'm gonna
call five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred
that number again. Five one three seven four nine fifty
five hundred. Phone lines are wide open. Love to hear
from you, coming up, we have, Jeff. You're listening to
the car show on fifty five krs the talk station.
Way back in nineteen fifty eight, my grandfather opened Donovan's
Auto entire Center right here in Cincinnati. A lot has

(21:48):
changed since then, but our commitment to honest auto repair hasn't.
We believe in making sure your vehicle gets everything it
needs and nothing it doesn't. Because as a family owned
business with our name on the wall, integrity matters. From
nineteen fifty eight today, Donovan's Auto entire Center is still
Cincinnati's honest choice for auto repair and we're proud to
keep this city moving. Three area locations. Find yours at

(22:10):
donovantire dot com. Taking your car questions and number call
five one three seven nine fifty five hundred. I'm Dane
Donovan from Donovan's Auto entire Center. Find your nearest location
here in the Tri State area at donovantire dot com.
And uh again, uh third generation. My grandfather started the

(22:32):
business back in nineteen fifty eight, and I truly am
passionate and love what I do. And I think in
this day and age, that's important when you take your
your vehicle, or your child to the doctor, or even
your maybe your favorite your favorite watering hole or restaurant.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
I think if somebody.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Is passionate or likes what they do, I think nowadays
that's very important.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
You know, after COVID, I feel like the entire.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Culture and workforce has changed dramatically, and you know it's
you know, people just don't have the heart anymore. In
anything that they do, and I think that's just imperative.
And it's important when doing anything, whether it's I don't know,
cleaning my windows or cleaning windows or giving somebody a burger,

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or you know, fixing your car, especially a car that
you need in order to get your family.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Safely to their next destination.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Getting your car to work so that you can get there,
make money so you can provide for your family, keep
a roof over your head, food on your plate.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
That's important.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
And I can tell you I can't speak for every
prepare shop out there, but at Donovan's we want to
make sure that you know, we do that one hundred
and ten percent.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
You know, Unfortunately, mistakes do happen.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Sometimes there can be a mistake, right, but I think
if everybody jumps on it, there is a mistake, you
jump on it, you get it fixed. You get it
fixed right, You take care of the customer. It's imperative,
it's important, it's part of doing business. That's what you
have to do, and that's what we take pride in
at Donovans. So always important. So I love what I do.

(24:29):
All right, let's go back to the phones. We have
Jeff who's been patiently waiting. Jeff, I appreciate you waiting.
How can I help you?

Speaker 1 (24:36):
You can hear me right, yes, sir, Okay, I've got
a twenty seventeen Toyota SR four cylinder c cab also
four by four access cab. I'm reading this from the
from the paperwork, So two questions with that number.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
One.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
I have one hundred and twenty thousand on it with
no problems. But I have never changed the transmission oil
or a transmission fluid. I know your dad had always
said years ago to never flush it for different reasons.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
First of all, is this a sealed transmission or do
I need to look into this?

Speaker 2 (25:12):
What year? Is it a seventeen? Yeah, okay, it's probably
not Toyota has it's probably not a sealed transmission. Do
you know does it have a dipstick? A transmission dipstick?

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Embarrassingly, I don't know. Okay, however I have to take
it just to add on particular, I buy my own
oil and the filter and all that, and till the
mechanics to use that, and they do all the fluids,
and nothing has ever been mentioned for the entire life
that truck about the transmission fluid okay, I.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
You know, with it being a seventeen. So typically if
you have this is something that you can check.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
But if it.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Has a transmission dipstick where you can pull it out,
check the fluid level and put it back in and
it's not, it's.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Most likely not a sealed transmission.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Okay. Usually a seal transmission is literally does not have
a dipstick.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
There's no way for you to check it. You have
to have a scan.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Tool and a special tool in order to put the
fluid in. If you're able to check it and you
have a transmission dipstick, then most likely it is not
a seal transmission.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Now what I I'm sorry, go ahead, No.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
I would check.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
I mean, most likely it's going to be on a
Toyert Tacoma. Most likely it's you said it's four wheel drive, correct.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Four by four, it's not full time four wheel drive?

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Okay? And is it a four cylinder or six cylinder?
I'm sorry, four cylinder okay? For center?

Speaker 2 (26:46):
All right, So.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
I'd have I'd have to I'd have.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
To see the question.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Let's just say hypothetically it can be changed. So I
don't I have way to do long, So should I
instruct them to simply replace the fluid.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Or okay, so great question.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
You're right.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
So two things.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
One, even if it's even if it's sealed or not,
even a seal transmission should the fluid should be changed.
So regardless if it's a seal transmission or not, it
still needs to be changed. Okay. Now there are a
couple of manufacturers out there that recommend it never be changed.
And I think Volkswagen, Audi, BMW, Mercedes, they're all sealed,

(27:32):
they're all transmission fluids that are lifetime fluid. However, Honda Toyota,
your Forge, your GMS, those all fluids need to be changed. Now,
what i'd recommend is no flush. You don't you don't
want to flush a Honda Toyota because they do not
have filters.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
They do not have transmission filters.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
They have screens, okay, and the screens cannot be replaced. Okay,
unless there's some new technology that's out there, which you know,
it's it's hard to keep up with it all.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
But most of them just have a screen.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
So you don't want to do a flush, especially with
one hundred and twenty thousand miles, because it's it's pretty evasive.
I mean you're changing all that fluid, and you're forcing
all that fluid, that dirty fluid through that screen you run,
you could potentially run into an issue. So what I
would recommend is you just do a transmission drain in fill.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
So your transmission most vehicles.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Will hold anywhere between it depends on the vehicle, but
you know, you know anywhere ten twelve, fourteen, sixteen courts
of transmission fluid, right, And so if you do a flush,
it's too evasive. You're forcing all those flu all that
fluid out, putting new fluid in.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
It's it's too it's too hard on it.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Right. What you'd want to do is you'd want to
do again, just a drain in fill. You drop the
drain plug, drop it, let what's in the pan out.
There's a little Most of your transmissions are going to
have a magnet on that drain plug, and you want
to clean all the metal shavings into you off that plug,
you put it back in, and then you you whatever

(29:03):
you pulled out you want to put back in. So
most like most of the time, it's about four quarts.
You do that, it's less evasive. Again, I use this
analogy all the time, but on a transmission with one
hundred and twenty thousand miles. Right, your transmission and all
the clutch packs and everything in that thing are basically

(29:25):
they're the fluid that you're the fluid that's in there.
It's like swimming in a pool of water. Right, you
go and you change all of the fluid. It's too evasive,
it's too difficult. Now you've changed the viscosity, You've changed
the thickness of that fluid, so that now you're running
in a pool of jello. It's gonna be a lot
more it's gonna be a lot more harsh. Where if

(29:46):
you're only changing four quarts of it, it's not you know,
you don't want to run yourself into a corner and
get yourself, you know, hemmed up and have transmission issues.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
I don't think you will.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
But if you just do the four to just drain
the pan and refill it, I think it'll be perfectly fine.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
And then you slowly introduce that fluid.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
You know, you're you're introducing some of the old fluid
with the new fluid, and it's not as harsh, right,
you know, it's like going to have you know, turf
toe surgery and uh, then trying to run on the
football field the next day and try to you know,
you gotta you gotta try to slowly introduce that. And

(30:26):
so I again, regardless if it's sealed or not, you
still want to get it done.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
And I would just do I wouldn't do a flush.
I would just do a drain and fill. That's what
I would do.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
So I would in the transmission people to drain and
drain and fill, but only fill with like four odd
courts of new and put the rest of the old
back in, come back some number of miles later and
put another four courts in, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
I mean, and so when you when you drain the
plug for the pan, just four courts are going to count.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
That's it, because you've got fluid in.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
The cooler lines and the torque converter and still in
the So all you're doing is to say, hey, I
just want to do a transmission draining pill like empty.
They four courts come out, they put four courts in. Boom,
You're good to go, and then maybe in about thirty
thousand miles, maybe at about one fifty, then have it
done again. I don't but you know, you don't want

(31:23):
to go back every you know, six months or anything
like that. Just change what's in the pan, and about
thirty thousand miles, do it again, and just stay on
that every thirty thousand miles. Just stick to that, that regiment,
and you'll be You'll be fine.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Second question, and this will be easy. Do I have
a timing belt or a chain on my truck?

Speaker 3 (31:41):
You have a chain to worry about? And you have
a chain? No belt?

Speaker 2 (31:45):
You have a chain, and they are they are in theory,
they are supposed to last the life of the car.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Now, if the car is.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
You're keeping oil in it regularly, and you know that
engine is running great and it's not ran low on oil,
you'll never have to change it.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Primarily, what happens is some of these vehicles, now toyots don't. Well,
some toyots do, but most of your newer vehicles burn oil.
People don't know it, and they run the engines low
on oil. They stretched the chains. And that gentleman that
called about the Honda element, that's that's what happens. But
you have a chain, make sure that you're checking the
oil regularly, change it regularly.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
You'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
You'll never have to replace that chain.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Excellent, Thank you very much for your all.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Right, thank you so much. You take care, bye bye,
all right again taking your phone calls in order to
call five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred
that number again, five one three seven four nine fifty
five hundred. Man, I'm telling you, you know, he had
a great question, and the gentleman before too, Paul from
west Chester. You know, these these chains are designed and

(32:53):
it's it's a great engineering feat. I mean, they know
some of these cars have two, three, four, you know,
I think I've only seen three. Might be exaggerating a
little bit, but three. Some of these cars have three
timing chains. And you want to make sure that you're
keeping the oil in them, otherwise you're going to have

(33:14):
major engine problems. And you run them a little on oil,
you burn up the engines. I have a I have
a twenty seventeen auti Q seven at one of my
shops and it's running bad. It's missfiring and it has
two burnt valves on it in it and it's.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Going to be pretty expensive to repair.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
And so the customer already bought a new car, and
they said, well, we'll get you the title and you know,
so you can get rid of it, but we still
owe twenty thousand dollars on the car and the repair
was going to be half of that, and they decided
not to fix the car, and they said, hey, we'll
figure out how we're going to pay the car off
and then we'll get you the title. Because if without

(33:59):
the title, you really can't do anything. So it's imperative
and important that you make sure that you're changing or regularly.
And it's important. So all right again, taking your phone
calls and the number call five one, three, seven, four nine,
fifty five hundred coming up. We have Kevin. You're listening
to the car show on fifty five KR see the
talk station.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
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Speaker 6 (34:43):
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Speaker 2 (34:50):
Taking your car questions. The number to call five one, three,
seven four nine fifty five hundred. We are getting cl
towards the end of the show, so if you do call,
I will get you in. I may be a little quick,
not to be rude, but you know I have to
be out at certain times, right So, but I do

(35:12):
appreciate everybody that has called.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
I've had some great questions.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
And again, if you know you may be catching the
tail end of the show and you do have a question,
you can always call me during the week, or you
can call me next Saturday. I I should be here.
I I should be here. I will be barely on time.

(35:39):
And that's kind of how I that's.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Kind of how I run my life. I literally wake up.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
In the morning and I look at my wife and
I go, what do we have to do today?

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Where do I need to be at after work?

Speaker 2 (35:53):
My wife does a phenomenal job at being a wife
and a mother, and she keeps not only me, but
the boys, all three boys in check, and has all
their schedules, knows what's going on right. So I lean
on her, and again she does a phenomenal job. I
lean on her to say, hey, where do I need

(36:16):
to be at today after work? And she'll say, you know, well,
we have this practice, this practice, this game, or someone's
got to be here. You need to be here, you
need to do that, and and and you know.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
I don't have a problem with it.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
She might, but I like just going, hey, I don't
live my life weeks in advance. I live it day
by day, and I live it with hey, hey, dear,
where do I need to be at?

Speaker 3 (36:42):
And she tells me. And some days she goes, we.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Don't have anything tonight, and I'm like, oh, thank god,
I get to go home and sit No, I don't
get to go home and sit on the car. Well
I do, but she's not happy with me when I
do it. But you know, you need that every once
in a while. So but she does a great job.
So I love her to death. So all right, let's
go back to the phones. We have Kevin, Hey, Kevin,
welcome to the car show.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
How can I help hi?

Speaker 4 (37:08):
I've got a quick one. I would listening to talk
to the guy who had the Toyota about doing a
transmission drain and fill instead of a flush because they
have the screen instead of the filter. I'm coming up
on one hundred and forty thousand miles of my two
thousand and thirteen foid escape and we have the money
set aside to do a flush on the transmission. Should

(37:29):
I go and do that or do you should I
do a drite and fill instead?

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Great question? Well and I and this is a question
that you might not know, and I don't know off
the top of my head. I would have to look
at the transmission. But do you know if your transmission
is a what's called a CVT transmission.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
I oh, I'm not sure about that. I know it
does not have a dip sit for the transmission.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Okay, it's probably CBT then man, CVTs are and I'm
not I you know, I'm not picking on Ford, uh,
because I have multiple Fords. But nobody in the industry,
nobody can build a CVD transmission that's worth a day
without a just they just cannot build one.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Nobody can.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
So I'm always leary about changing the fluid on a CVT.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
I'm actually I.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Have Uh, I have two escapes at my shop right now.
Both of them need transmissions because they're CVTs and they're
they're they're a nightmare if you do it, like I said,
I would go back to that the last gentleman. I
would recommend that you just do a drain infill, but

(38:42):
you you got to make sure that you use the
right fluid, and you got to make sure that whoever
does it has the proper tools because a lot of
these vehicles, it's again a lot of them are sealed transmissions,
and you got to have a proper tool. You have
to have a scan tool because the transmission has to
be at a certain temperature. It's something that you most
people can't do in their driveway. It's something that you

(39:06):
kind of have to take to a specialist simply because I.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Just I'm right down the road from the four dealer
in Middletown.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Anyway, Okay, it has it? How many miles are on it?

Speaker 7 (39:18):
One? I'm sitting in it right now.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
One?

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Okay, And has it ever been changed before?

Speaker 4 (39:28):
My sister thinks she did. Oh yeah, it was done
around seventy four thousand miles.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Okay, Well then you okay, then good, good good. If
it's been done once, I think you're good to go
ahead and do it, get it done again. But like
that last Showman at one hundred and twenty, you gotta
be careful that you don't open up yourself a can
of worms. Right, But if you've if it was done
at seventy, you should be fine to go ahead and
get it done again.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
You should be fine. And like I said, get it
to the proper people that have the right tools.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
And then you know, so if you're taking it to
the four dealer, that's perfectly fine.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Yeah, and I know they'll use the motorcraft, use a
recommended transmission fluid.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Right, And I think that's important. You know, my guys,
I have a I have a little Honda Civic. It's
twenty five years old. In fact, I can probably get
his I can get historical.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Tags on it.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
But uh, I won't let that thing go because I've
had it since I was eighteen. Like I said earlier
in the show, I'm going to be forty one next week.
I've had this thing forever and it's it's a great
little car. But anyways, I only put Honda parts on it.
Everybody makes fun of me, but I think it's important.

(40:36):
Now they are more expensive, but I think it's important.
You don't, but that that might not always be the case, right,
you know.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
I I have an old truck that needed.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Ah what did it need?

Speaker 3 (40:48):
It needed something?

Speaker 2 (40:49):
And I put it. They're like, oh my god, you're
not putting a Ford part on that. I'm like, well,
it's not available anymore. I mean, if it's not available,
that's one thing. But if it's available to me, I'm
going to try to put on factory arts. That's I
think it's important. And you know so, but no, I no,
it's it's a great question. But yeah, I get to
them and have them do it, and you'll be You'll

(41:11):
be in good shape. But changing the fluids is so important,
and it's something that we've gotten away from. Now has
technology and the fluids that are out there, has it
come around? Is that has it improved? Absolutely? Do? I
think it's to the point where we just get in
the car and never worry about any of it other
than just changing the oil putting gas in it. And

(41:32):
I don't think so. I still think we need to
have the conversation. The car still needs to be tuned up.
All the fluids need to be changed, you know, And
some of these vehicles that are four wheel drive you
know you've got front differential fluid transfer case, fluid, rear differential,
fluid transmission, fluid coolant, power steering break those are those
are all fluids that need to be changed. So for

(41:55):
those of you who are listening, you know, get your
owners when you're out some cars. I just like I said,
I recently had the opportunity to buy purchase a new vehicle.
Guess what doesn't come with an owner's manial. Guess what
it's in my screen? I have to go to the
screen to figure out what my maintenance schedule is. Because
that's how with technology today, there's no owner's manial on
these cars anymore. So or you can always call Donovan's,

(42:18):
or you can call your local repair shop or your
local deal and say, hey, listen, I have thirty thousand
miles on my car.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
What should I be doing?

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Those are the questions that we should be asking, right,
So it's important. But all right, well, hey listen, I
gotta go. Great question. I really do appreciate it. Have
a great weekend. I will be back next Saturday to
answer all of your car questions. Thank you so much.
Enjoy the weather. Hopefully we get a little bit of rain,
but In the meantime, everybody have fun. I'll be back

(42:45):
next Saturday to answer all your car questions.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
I'm Dane Donovan from Donovan's Auto entire Center. Have a
great weekend, Thank you so much. You're listening to the
car show on fifty five KRC the talk stations.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
And then.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
And then

Speaker 7 (43:17):
And then

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