November 30, 2025 • 45 mins
# Car Talk with Dane Donovan: Winter Prep & Holiday Car Tips
Are your wheels ready for winter? In this episode, Dane Donovan shares essential advice for preparing your vehicle for the cold months ahead. From the importance of timely inspections to why those wiper blades you've been ignoring might leave you stranded in a snowstorm, Dane offers practical wisdom from his 25 years in the auto repair business.
The automotive landscape has changed dramatically since Donovan's Auto & Tire Center opened 66 years ago. Remember when everyone rushed to put on snow tires the day after Thanksgiving? Today's vehicles have different needs, but winter preparation remains crucial. Dane explains why the sudden temperature drops we experience can wreak havoc on cars and why waiting until the first snowfall for new tires might leave you stuck in a long queue.
## Timestamps:
- 3:45 - Winter car preparation essentials and how maintenance needs have evolved
- 11:30 - Trailer tire problems and why they don't last
- 18:20 - Solving gas tank pressure issues in a 2008 Chevy Silverado
- 27:15 - Electronics troubleshooting in an '06 Escalade
- 33:40 - Fuse problems and upgrading amperage safely
- 36:15 - Bizarre starter issue in a '98 4Runner that starts without a key
## Key Takeaways:
- Don't wait for the first snowfall to check your tires and other winter-critical systems
- Modern cars need different maintenance than older vehicles, but winter checks remain essential
- When doing DIY repairs, invest in quality OEM parts to avoid repeated failures
- Trailer tires typically don't last long - consider light truck tires as an alternative
- Rodents can cause extensive electrical damage to vehicles, especially those that sit unused
Is your college student home for the holidays? Schedule their car maintenance now before the rush. Remember that Donovan's offers shuttle services and sometimes even loaner vehicles to make the process as convenient as possible.
Ready to get your vehicle winter-ready? Visit donovantire.com to find the location nearest you and schedule your winter inspection today!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
She's real find my formal nice of all. Good afternoon,
and welcome to the car show. I'm Dane Donovan taking
(00:26):
all of your car questions. The number to call five
one three seven fifty five hundred. That number again, five
one three seven fifty five hundred. It's a gorgeous but
chilly day. But hope everybody enjoyed their Thanksgiving. Hope. Uh,
it's always good to get around family and friends again.
(00:46):
And I see him, and uh, we went to a
we went to a dinner last night, not a thanks obviously,
not a Thanksgiving dinner, but just dinner with some family
we haven't seen it in a while. And good time
to you know, just catch up and catch up on things,
you know, we get our lives just get.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So oh man, we get so busy and complicated.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I mean, I remember when I was younger and you
felt like you had all the time in the world
to get things done. Now it's like I can't even
make it here on time. So just always something, you know,
And but you know, again, we give our guys, you know, obviously,
we give our guys.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Thanksgiving off, paid holiday for them.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And then years ago the guys all wanted it off
Fridays because you know, they want to spend time with family.
So they all said, hey, listen, well we can close
on Friday. You don't have to pay us, and you
know they can use the sick day of vacation day.
And man, by god, they they love that. They love
that four day weekend. So I mean, don't get don't
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get me wrong, I love it too. It is nice
to get some things done around the house. Although I
haven't got anything done around the house. We had some
we had some family and friends over on Thanksgiving when
to my in laws, and then yesterday was just a blur.
Yesterday was busy and we got to go to the
UC football game later today.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
That's gonna be a cold one and so.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, but again, I hope everybody had a good, joyful
and happy Thanksgiving. Now we've now it's the hustle and
bustle of the holidays. Got to get that Christmas shopping
done and drove past the mall to get here. It
is absolutely packed. I don't think you could pay me
to be in the mall right now with all those people,
But I know a lot of people enjoy it. I'm
not the shopper myself, but uh, you know, luckily you
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can do it from home, right So, but yeah, so
hope everybody's doing well. But again, I'm here to take
all your all of your car questions, and I'm gonna
call five one three seven fifty five hundred. That number again,
five one three fifty five hundred. You know, we talked
about it last week, you know, snow and then they
(02:54):
just said it. If you were listening earlier, they're talking
about us getting some more snow here coming up.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And again we've I've been leading up to it.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
This is the time of the year that we really
really need to get the cars in, get them inspected.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Again.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
When I got into this business twenty five years ago,
you know, a lot and I'm talking a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well two things. Well, a lot of people would bring
their car in.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Hey, I need to have it winter eyes, I need
to have it checked over for winter right now.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yes, cars have advanced, they are a little different. You know.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It was always like check my coolant, check my belts,
my hoses, my battery and stuff like that. Now your belts,
your hoses, your coolant are gonna be fine. They almost
rarely ever go bad. Right, you still need to replace
your coolant, but you still need to check the battery.
You need to make sure that you know your wipers
are replaced. It's the hardest thing for me to try
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to sell his wiper blades.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Nobody wants to buy wiper blades, but I'm telling you
it's important.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So getting it in, getting it checked out, and making
sure that you're ready for winter. I mean, we don't
know what kind of now. Luckily, lately we've had some
pretty mild winners. Hasn't gotten too bad, right, but this
extreme cold snap, you know when when it goes to
you know, forties or fifties and all of a sudden
we get down to the thirties, that reeks havoc on cars.
(04:10):
That's that's that's hard on cars. So if you can
prevent a breakdown or prevent some type of you know, headache,
why not do it. So now's the time again, continue
to tell everybody you got to get them in, got
to get them inspected, get them ready for winter.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
The other thing is the tires.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You heard me, We talk about it all the time,
making sure your tires are ready for winter. We always
have a massive influx of people who want tires. That
very first deep snow and people can't get around town.
It's all of a sudden, I'm like, oh man, I
need tires, and a lot of times we can't get
to everybody because we've got all of these people that
want tires all at once, and you know, and it's hard.
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So now's the time to start thinking about those things.
And you know, again, we're going into the holidays. If
no nobody wants to get tires for Christmas, but hey,
I mean, you know, we have gift cards.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
We can you know, think about that.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
If your son or your daughter's in town from college
right which that most people are, and then they're they're
they're gone for a little bit and then they come
back at Christmas time. If you think your daughter or
son needs some tires or need to get the car
inspected while they're home for the holidays, now's the time
to do it. Now it's the time to start scheduling
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because again, I can't tell you how many people, oh man,
I had on Wednesday, right before Thanksgiving, I had a
ton of people. I probably I took probably about five
ten phone calls or like hey, everybody was like, hey,
I'm in town, my car just broke down, or hey,
my daughter's in town, can you get her into today?
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And you know, the day before Thanksgiving, And unfortunately we
have a schedule, and it's like, I can't.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
You know, I want to be able to help everybody.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I want to be able to get to everybody's cars
and fix everybody's cars. But I can't do that effectively
if everybody waits till the last minute, right, I know
in our culture, and you know I can be you know,
I tooting my own horn here because I mean I
do the same.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Thing from from time to time.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I don't call my dentist the day before, like hey,
I need to get in for a cleaning. But you
know that there's just things that we can do to prevent,
you know, a breakdown or an emergency situation where you're like,
oh no, I can't bring my car in the Donovance today,
so I'm gonna have to go somewhere else, right, And
then we end up maybe making bad decisions, and somebody
tells you that you need something that you don't, and
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so it's it's time to think about it. And it's
really funny when my grandfather started down an entire sixty
six years ago, like Friday, the day after, you know,
black fire, the day after. I've been told I did
not witness it, but I've been told that was the
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busiest day of the year for us in the entire business,
because that's when everybody put their snow tires on. This
is what I'm being told by my father and my uncles, like, man,
it was the busiest day, busiest day. And uh snow tires,
I mean those are we don't even talk about that anymore.
I might have one or two customers a year that
come in they want their snow tires put on.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
You just you don't typically see it anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
So it's it's just kind of funny how how the
industry itself has has, you know, changed, Right, we'd get
the cars in, you change oil every three thousand miles,
you get the car major service every thirty thousand miles,
and now it's you know, changing oil every five thousand
miles and tune up said one hundred thousand miles. And
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used to have snow tires and now you don't. It's
just something that it's just crazy how the industry has changed,
but you still have to get the car looked at
and get it in.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
So all right, I'm taking your phone calls and I'm
gonna call five on.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Three seven fifty five hundred that number again five one,
three seven four nine fifty five hundred.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Again.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Phone lines are wide open. If you've got a car question,
love to hear from you, So phone lines again wide open.
I'll get your right in some you're listening to the
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Speaker 1 (08:52):
You're listening to the car show on fifty five KRC
on Dan Donovan from Donovan's Auto entire Center. And we
have three local locations in Cincinnati area. We've got the
pleasant Ridge location, the original location, a Blue Ash location,
and our new location, Auto four and Donovan's Auto fourn
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which is at the corner of Montgomery Road in Dana,
across the street from Xavier University.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
And I'll tell you what we get a little.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I mean, it's it's so convenient for the Xavier students
that are in town that have cars and they need work.
And you know, everybody looks up car repair and you
know the the you know, the students can drop their
car off and walk back to the dorms or walk
back to the house and and so it's very convenient.
So if you have a son, daughter, nephew, niece, whatever
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at Xavier University and they need car repair, send them
my way.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Be more than happy to take care of them.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
We do offer shuttle rides as well, so if they
if it's cold or raining or whatnot and they don't
want to no sense and pain for a new borah.
We have we have a driver and he'll gladly take uh,
you know, take them home, or take anybody home. And
for that matter, doesn't he have to be anybody any
of our donav Entire locations. If you need a ride
(10:10):
when you schedule your appointment, just say hey, could I
get a lift to work or a ride to home
or whatever?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
You know, we're trying. We we do our absolute best
to try.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
To make it as as simple as a process as
we possibly can right now. Sometimes too, we do have
loners available, not not to every customer, but if we
have you know, availability or a car that's kind of
gone south on us or waiting parts or you know,
because sometimes these cars can be unpredictable, we do have
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that feature as well. So but you can find all
of our information on donnovantire dot com. So all right,
let's go back, let's go to the phones. We've got Opie. Hey, Opie,
welcome to the car show.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
How can I help?
Speaker 6 (10:55):
I hope you had a happy Thank Yeah, it.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Was just it was it was good, but I you know,
I got to I got to take a nap.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You know, you know, you know, when you're take a nap,
watch football.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
You know you're getting old when you're you're excited about
I got to take a nap.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Well I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, just you know, have having some you know, some food,
watching some football and taking a nap.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Man, I'll tell you what you can't. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
I thanks for a good day.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, you know, it's good to It's good to do
it every once in a while. I mean, if you
make a habit of it, there's a problem. But if
you know once in a while, it's it's a little
change up, a change of pace in life, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
So I enjoyed it.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Well, good you just talking tires there, I've got a
tire question for you. My wife has those very expensive,
big large animals that she rides that eat a lot
of hay horses. And I hate horses because I put
fifty one hundred dollars bills into one end and you
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know what comes out the other. But at any rate, yeah,
trailer tires are killing me.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Number one.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
You can't find trailer tires that have a decent day code.
You know, they've been sitting on the shelf for three
or four five years. And then what she's got, she's
got the I don't know there's a ten flyre or
whatever the load range load range Q. And the problem is,
I mean, two three years, I get out of set
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of tires and they either dry rot, or they break
belt or they separate. And I got it. I bought
her last trailer. I got her a set of them
tire covers to keep the sun off of them. I
keep tire dressing on them. And I'm still two three years.
I know I've changed, I've tried different branded tires. I've
been dealing with this for thirty years. What's is there
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a you got a tip for me? Other than they
just make crappy tires nowadays?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
M man? How do I? Yes, I would say.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
That, uh yeah they trailer tires or yeah, they they're
they're they just don't build them.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
They don't build them to last.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
They just don't. I mean, I listen, I've got a guy.
He brings me all kinds of trailer tires, and you're right,
they don't last. They dry rot. They I mean even
though yeah, you're you're right, they break belts. I just
don't think they're made or manufactured like they they're supposed
to be. You know, they don't put them on it.
They're not made like a car tire. I know that
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sounds silly, You're like, it's it's a tire, but they
just the quality. I mean, I don't even the only
manufacturer that I know that's that builds a good trailer
tire and you may have even used them, is Carlisle.
That that's the only means yeah, I mean Carlisle is
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the only one that I know that builds a quality product.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Everything else is yeah. I mean it's it's an import.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
It's cheap tires, one hundred dollars tires, five hundred dollar tires.
There's really not much difference. So I didn't know if
you had a And like I said, I did find
that we get a little bit, a little bit more
life out of them. I got a set of them
RV you know them covers that you see on RV's
and put the put the covers over them to keep
the sun off of them. And that that given that
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bought me another sixth rate twelve months on a set
of tires. But you know, yeah, I didn't know if
you had any ideas. And I've tried everything, and I've
tried every I've tried every brand under the sun. In
thirty years, I bought ten or twelve sets of tires.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah I know.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I mean the same way as I just got a
buddy of mine he just bought a camper and you know,
a fifth wheel, and was like, man, I I need
tires desperately. He goes that they don't have that many
miles on him, because man, these things are He showed
me a picture of him. He goes, man, they're severely
dry rotted. And I'm like, yeah, and I.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
You just looked you look through the craw to see
if they got air in them?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I mean no, I I just think, to be honest
with you, I just don't think they build them with quality.
I just think it's you know, they're the you know,
probably a majority of them or most of them are
made over in China, shipped over here, and then we'd
throw them on our trailers and are But no, I.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Don't have there's no other secret there. I think.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
The only other thing that you could do, now this
is not not possible for everybody on the only thing
that I could think of is putting it in.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
A a uh, you know, a.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Heated, an air conditioned garage and completely out of the ailments.
I know, right, I mean, it's not gonna happen, So no,
there's no secret. Unfortunately, I do not have a secret
for that. But that's a great that's a great question.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I mean, the only thing.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
The while I got you, While I got you, can
I plug our Toys for Toss event?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you've you've mentioned it before.
That's coming up, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Next Saturday, December the seventh, from eight to five at
Horsepower Farm in Middletown is our big Toys for Toss event.
Santa Claus will be parachuting in whether permitting about eleven o'clock.
We'll have coffee and donuts in the morning. We'll be
taking toy donations, cash donations, and then we all everything
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gets all divvd up between Butler, Warren, Montgomery, Green, Hamilton
County and northern Kentucky. So we cover more ground than
the grass, all right, So if people are worried about it,
if people are worried about it staying local, we spread
the wealth all over the place where one of the
biggest drop off points in southwestern Ohio.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Okay, well, great man, great cause, so.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Come out to our cars and coffee and come out
and hang out and have good time and a lot
of fun and fellowship, and we solve the world's problems.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
There.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
You go there likely to believe that.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Hey one, Uh no, you're doing a good thing.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
So all right, well, thank you, thank you for your help,
and you have a wonderful weekend and hopefully I'll see
you at the farm.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
All right, sounds great, so great? Cause me. Toys for Tots.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I mean, we do have at all of our donal
locations as well.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Toys is. Toys for Tots is great.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
We we we worked with them for a while and
typically what we would do is we'd give a ten
percent discount if you brought in a toy, and for
some reason, I just couldn't get anybody bring a toy in.
But uh, we now have so we do something and
I've talked about it before Peyton's lemonade stand.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
We've been doing that for years. And many of you
may know or may not know.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
That my son at two and a half was diagnosed
with cancer and uh, he's doing he's doing great.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
He's in remission. And but.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
You know, being in that hospital and kind of seeing
what life is like living out of a hospital, it's
it's not uh it's not for the faint and heart.
I mean it's it's it's difficult. So uh Painton's Lemonade Stand. Uh,
they she raises money for for kids you know that
are in the hospital, children, children's hospital whatnot, and to
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give them gifts and stuff like that. So uh, they
do a big lemonade stand all over the city. You
if you if you're interested in doing it, you know, Uh,
it's a great cause.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
We do one.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
But then also they do have like a like a
giving tree. So all of our locations has a has
a giving tree. You can just come in, pull a
lemon off the off the Christmas tree and it's some
a child's you know, wish of you know, one of
I know, my wife pulled one. It was uh a
little child was asking for a baby doll, so got
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a baby doll.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
And it's a great cause.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And you know, we always want to try to help
anybody out that we possibly can because it's it can
be very challenging for families out there with kids and
sick kids.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
So so it's a great cause. So and again toys
for tats as well.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So uh, I'm taking your taking your phone calls and
I'm gonna call five one three that number gain five
one three seven fifty five hundred.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
So it looks like we've got is it? Uh? Yeah, Deanna, Yes, Hey,
welcome to the car show. How can I help?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I have a two thousand eight Chevy Silverado. Uh And
when I put gas in it, it immediately starts popping
off like it's full.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Okay, well all right, good, so I know you got
to keep it done. So most likely is the check
engine light on it all?
Speaker 7 (19:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Okay, so you most.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Likely have a bad either the the charcoal canister or
what's called the canister vent valve is probably bad.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
So you've got what's called an evaporative emission system.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So basically your gas tank, the gas you know, it's
it's pressurized, the tank is it's there's gas that is
loost around on the tank, and what happens is the
charcoal canister.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You know, the government doesn't.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Want when you open up, when you you know, take
the gas cap off and those fumes come out. They
don't want those fumes to come out. So there's a
system in your truck. It's called the EVAP system. So
those fumes that are in the tank go into what's
called the charcoal canister. The charcoal canister filters those fumes,
and then you have what's called a canister vent valve.
That valve, once those fumes are vented, it vents, sends
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those fumes to the front of the engine to what's
called the purge valve, and that purge valve then sends
them into the engine to be burned. Okay, so most
likely the canister itself or the vent valve is stuck shut.
So what happens is is when you're going to put
gas in it, it's stuck up. It's you know, it's
stuck closed. So all that back pressure comes up up
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and that's what shuts the tank off, or that's what
shuts the point off. So what I would recommend is
getting the getting the check engine light red. I would
recommend that you have it. Not yes, you will have
to pay somebody to do it. I would not do
it for free because you want There can be several
things that need to be that. You know, I've seen
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spiderwebs build you know, uh, nests in there. I mean,
there could be a there could be a lot of
other things that could be going on. But even that's
shutting off is because of the back pressure. And that's
because something's not working like it's supposed to do. And
if getting somebody to you know, diagnose it correctly, because
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what they'll do is they'll they'll find out what the
codes are, find out if it's the vent valve.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Because we can have.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
You know, they need to make sure that they can
check the vent valve, make sure that it's operating correct
or whatnot.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
And then sometimes these things.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Can cause issues where you're having to do what's called
a you have to smoke, you have to run smoke
through the system to try to find out where possibly.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
A leak is. And yeah, huh so it can interesting.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
It's it's one of those lovely government things that we
have to deal with. And so they didn't have that
back in the day, but they do now for for
for emissions or whatnot. But it's something that is not
gonna I mean, if you can deal with, you know,
having to just sit there and lightly hold the gas
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you know, I mean, does it shut off even if
you hold it lightly?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (22:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
First and after I get gas going in it, then
it free flows. Okay, it's mostly.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
In the beginning, gotcha.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I mean, I'm not saying it doesn't pop off later,
but it's mostly in the beginning.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Gotcha.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Okay? Is that expensive like the canister and the valve
and all that other?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
No, no, no, I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
It's probably you know, I mean if it's a canister,
I mean it says here you've got an O eight Silverado,
so there there is a an updated canister. So they
so the caniser comes with I'm almost certain. Don't hold
me to this, but I'm almost certain the vent valve
is made onto the canister.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
You have to buy the whole canister.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And then what's called there's a TSB, which is a
technical service bullet, and they have updated the canister so
this doesn't happen, and then you have to reroute and
run a different vent. I had to do it all
my wife's car because she has a GMC as well.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Pretty common problem.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
But no, I don't think it's too I can't remember
the last time we did one. I want to say
it's like five six hundred bucks.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Maybe that's terrible labor to do that. Yeah, it could be,
could be.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
A little bit. Maybe stuck with it.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
For a while, I understand, but that's most likely what's
going on. You have you have yourself a wonderful day.
All right.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Thanks for your time, you too.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
All right, take care, goodbye?
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Speaker 1 (25:02):
Your car questions at number to call five one three
fifty five hundred. Let's go back to the phones. We've
got Michael Hey, Michael, Welcome to the car show.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
How can I help?
Speaker 8 (25:12):
Well, first, you're a gentleman with the tire issue with
the trailers. I had a similar issue, and my tire
dealer put light truck tires on my trailer. They lasted
quite a bit longer and it actually handled better. But
I had to have sixteen inch rims, all.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Right, so you had to change out the rims. But
he just put it. He just put a light truck
tire on there. That's a good idea, yeah.
Speaker 8 (25:35):
Yeah, And it seemed to last about double of life, huh,
and actually supported the weight better. It was a tantem
axle boat trailer. But the reason I'm calling, I've spoken
with you probably close to a year ago. I've got
an O six escalade throttle position censor. I don't remember
the code number was coding out.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
It was bad.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
I replaced it, still coding out was bad. Replace the
electronic gas pedal and it would go into limp mode.
I'm suspecting a rodent has gotten into the electrical harness
because literally I've exhausted all the part change out that
can be other than the wiring. As far as I've
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even put a new pigtail on the connector at the
sensor throttle body. Is there a shop that is really
trustworthy electrical that could you know, wring this thing out?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Sure, absolutely, so I mean.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
So all right, so you put you put the Did
you replace the entire throttle body the first time?
Speaker 8 (26:38):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 6 (26:39):
All right?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
And then did you did you do an ac Delco
throttle body or like an aftermarket.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Like a.
Speaker 8 (26:46):
I've done it twice. So the first time was it
was an aftermarket and at a popular parts store, and
the second time was ac Delco from the dealer. And
it seemed to work. When it first started this process,
it was random. It seemed to do better in the
cold weather than it did the warm weather. So it
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would go a week, maybe two weeks, go into limp mode.
You'd reset it, it'd be fine. Now it goes into
limp mode right after you start it up, starts throwing
codes and it's the same codes. I've got a very simple,
you know, the thirty dollars scanner, so I can't test
voltage between the circuits. But it goes right into limp
mode and you cannot clear it out of it. It
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stays in limp mode.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
All right, So all right, So you put an ac
Delco throttle body on it and then the gas put itself.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Was that ac Delco as well?
Speaker 8 (27:41):
That I don't believe. So I don't believe it was okay?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And how old is that is?
Speaker 7 (27:47):
That?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I mean, let me ask you something. So after you
replace the.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
After you replace the throught of body with the ac Delco,
you were still getting codes and was it was it
going to the Limmo too or was it or were
you just getting codes?
Speaker 8 (28:02):
Well, it's yeah, the behavior is the same. It's still
with coding and going into reduced engine power. When it
first started doing this, we cleared the codes and it
ran for two or three months and then it just
would be random. You'd clear the code and you have
plenty of drive time. Now it's just continuous. It's it's
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that car's not going anywhere, so set the back of
a rollback.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah. So two things.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
One, Yes, it could be a rodent issue where you
know it something got it? I mean, do you have
does it sit outside? I mean, do you have any evidence.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
That in the well it does? First and foremost, it's
a backup vehicle. We commute to Cincinnati. We live in Indiana,
so it's a it's a bad weather vehicle. Primarily, it
doesn't get run very much. Second, I was running the
vacuum cleaning it out, and underneath the seats was chewed
up paper. So I know Mickey Mouse has done his
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work and been in there. Okay, all right, but I
don't know. Yeah, I don't know if he got up
in the dash and.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
So I just want to make sure that you did
have some evidence that rodents do a lot of damage
to cars. I mean, I've I've seen I've seen a
rodent one time, total car.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
They did so much damage.
Speaker 8 (29:20):
So my understanding is some of the insulation from manufacturers
actually contain soybean oil.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Correct, yes, that.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
And I've been told also that the plastic they use
it to sharpen their teeth on is what I've been
told as well. Oh okay, a lot you see, like
a lot of plastic that's chewed up, and apparently they
use it to sharpen their teeth. I don't know if
there's any truth to that or not, but I'm just there.
I'm just there to fix the damage. Don't figure out
how it happened.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
It's highly suspicious that the problem got worse and worse
and worse.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Well the other thing though, too, is you could have
it could just be a computer problem, like the main
computer of the car. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
So typically what we.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Would do is we would check the continuity, making sure
that we've got a good signal coming from the computer
to the throttle body.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
So you would have to check.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Continuity between all the wires going to the throttle body.
And if you've got good continuity, that means there's no
break in the wires. But if you if you're not
getting anything out of the computer. So if we test that,
you know, it's one of those things where you got
to pull a wiring diagram and you got to find out,
you know, which wires that are coming out of the
computer going to the throttle body, and you check continuity
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making sure that you've got a good signal from the
computer to the throttle body. If you do, you know,
then or I'm sorry, If you don't, then yeah, then
we got a broken wire. But if we're not getting
a good signal out of the computer, then it's going
to need a computer and we're gonna have to program
it and whatnot so it can be done.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I know, all my you know, any of my stores
can do it. I know you said you're in Indiana.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
That might not be convenient, might be expensive, toe but
absolutely one of any one of my three shops would
be able to determine it and figure it out.
Speaker 8 (31:05):
Okay, all right, well we'll get a record schedule and
get it up to you.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Then get it up to me.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I'm at the so I am typically at the news shop,
the auto foreign shop, but you can take it to any.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I mean probably just located.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
It's not too it's it's ten minutes from downtown. It's
it's at the corner Montgomery Road and Dane. If you
just go to donovantire dot com. We're right across the
street from Xavier University. That's where I'm at. I've got
a great technician that would be able to figure it
out for you. So more than have you to take
care of you. Just call me at the it's it's
Donovan's auto form. Call me and just say, hey, you know,
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sometimes I might you know, might be out running or
test driving a car, whatnot.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Just let him know that. Call me to say, hey,
it's on its way, and I'll be more happy to
take care of you.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
All right, Thank you, sir, Thank you you too, take
care bye bye man. That's the thing about electronics. It
can be uh sometimes a needle in a haystack. But
we'll figure it out. I mean, it could be that
the the gas pedal you put in there is just
there's so many with the way cars are made today.
I mean, thirty years ago, you, Joe Schmoke could build
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a uh well, first of all, thirty years ago, you
didn't have all these electronics for a gas pedal. It
was it was drive by wire, right, So I'm sorry,
not trit by wire. It was it was a throttle cable, right,
so when you hit the gas pedal, that cable opened
up that throttle by that's how you give a gas right.
But then, of course we had to get way too
technical and we had to make everything electronics. And now
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the gas pedal is electronic, and hey, it just causes
a headache for everything. That's so really, if you're I'm
here to tell you too, look if you will, I
will never tell anybody not to try to work on
their own car.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
My neighbor was like, hey, uh my water pumps leaking.
It's a it's a Ford explorer. The engine's got to
come out do it. I said, look, you really, really
I shouldn't do that. You should have probably, but I
was like, if you can do it, go ahead, And
sure enough he proved me wrong. He did it, knocked
it out and saved himself a tremendous amount of money,
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and good for him, coodos to him. And I'm here
to tell you I would never tell anybody for the
most part, if you want to knock something out and
get a water pump or break's done on your car,
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Make sure you do your research.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
And certainly, if you're doing it yourself, you're already saving
yourself a tremendous amount of money, right, So just buy
a good quality part. Don't do aftermarket if you can
avoid it. Really, just save yourself the time and the
headache of just buying a good quality part, and it'll
save you, you know, because again that gentleman may he
(33:48):
called he put an aftermarket gas pedal on. It might
be the root of of his problem, or it could
be a computer issue or a wire issue, just like
you said. But if you're I'm here to tell you,
if you're doing in your own work, buy a good
quality part, an oe M manufactured part, Okay, it's imperative.
It's an important thing to do, especially if you're doing
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it yourself. So all right, taking your phone calls and
number call five on three seven four nine fifty five hundred.
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Speaker 2 (35:04):
And it's about that time.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
We're almost out of time, so I'm gonna go back
to the phones.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
We've got Bill.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Hey Bill, Hey Bill, welcome to our show.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
How can I help?
Speaker 10 (35:14):
Yeah? I talked to you several shows ago about him
about a fuse problem and trying to get some lights
checked on it that are on the desh, and you
were telling me the cigarette lighter is connected to all
that and changed the fuse, which I did, which I did,
And these big box stores are these change that really
couldn't read what my lights were doing. But my question
(35:35):
is I had to plug in a an air pump
and it seemed like it blew the fuse again. So
can the head of fifteen in it? Can I go
up to a twenty or yeah? What do you think
of them?
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
You can go to then? Yeah? Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
Figure that's what it is.
Speaker 10 (35:52):
It's drawing too much current on that air pump.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Probably, yeah, but you go you can go to a
twenty'd be fine. I mean I wouldn't go all the
way up to a fifty or anything like that, you know,
but yeah, you know, no going to jumping up to
a twenty twenty five?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I think, no, you'll be fine. It's okay.
Speaker 10 (36:10):
That's that's good to know. Any idea why they couldn't
read They read that it was misfiring on a cylinder
because I put new plugs and wires in and found
that problem. But it didn't show up any any of
the ABS or the brake system or or engine problems,
other engine problems that it's been having, which is rather strange.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Well, one of two things.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Either one the scan tool they were using is really
cheap and inexpensive and wouldn't allow them to go into
the ABS module. Or two Sometimes ABS and traction control
codes and stuff like that. Sometimes they'll be present and
then the minute you shut the car off there they
(36:51):
basically get erased and then you you know, so I one,
like I said, either they didn't have the proper scan
tool or the proper the proper equipment to diagnose it correctly,
or to the coach just weren't present at the time
that they looked at it. I mean, are those are
those other lights that are on in the desk? Are
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they on all the time?
Speaker 10 (37:14):
Yes, all the time, and now he checked it what
the engine off, which I thought was rather strange. But
I can see what you're saying there. I mean, should
he have like maybe cleared him out and then maybe
they would come back again a little fresher.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
IM possible.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
So yeah, to to to properly scan a vehicle, Yes,
the car needs to be on but not running, so
the key doesn't The key does have to be present,
and and the car has to be in the on
position so he can get into the computers, but not running,
it won't it won't be able to scan it running. Yeah,
(37:51):
I mean he could he Yes, I would recommend, yeah,
going in there, clearing everything, just basically clear everything, wipe
it all out, start over and drive it and then
wait for those lights to kick back on and then yeah,
scan it again.
Speaker 10 (38:07):
The second And that's what I was thinking, I think, Yeah,
but I don't think he knew how to do that.
But but all right, well you answered a bunch of questions.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
All right, Well thanks for holding on for me. You
have a wonderful holiday. So so he wash got him
off there.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
But all right, so all right, taking your phone calls
and I'm gonna call five.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
One, three, five hundred. Let's go back to the phones.
So we've got Dan, Hey, Dan, welcome to the car show.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
How can I help?
Speaker 7 (38:36):
Yeah, So I've got a ninety eight to four runner
and it sat in the yard for about a week
and I went out to start it and the starter
just click click click, like it was a week battery.
And I thought maybe a door was a jar or something.
So I put it on charge overnight and went out
the next day and hit the key expecting me to start,
and it did the same thing. I went up and
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bought a new battery, brought it home. I put it
in the engine or the compartment where the battery goes,
and when I put the terminals on, the car started
up with the key out and the ignission off. It
started up really and then and then after it started,
I wouldn't didn't know how to shut it off, and
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I know I did something I shouldn't have done. I
went and turned the key to the start position and
it brian did like it wasn't supposed to do that,
and it shut the car off. So I turned the
key back off and disconnected the battery terminal and put
it back on and it started back up again with
no key in the ignission. And then to shut it off,
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I took the air cleaner out and I put a
rag over the hole in the air cleaner and ithut
the engine off, and I did it restarted again by
putting the battery terminal on. It started back up and
I shut it back off. And that's where I'm sitting now. Uh.
I've not done anything since then.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I don't man, I don't think I maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I don't know if I've ever seen that happen before.
Speaker 7 (40:14):
Mostly the research on the internet either leans toward the
uh the starter relay, the actual ignition switch itself, or
a starter cell annoyed.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Well, you could if you wanted to. You could.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Pull the starter relay disconnected, but you got the battery disconnected.
Pull the starter relay. It should be underneath the hood.
Find the fuse box. Yes, pull the relay.
Speaker 7 (40:48):
Well, I pulled the relay and I didn't know it
hit a clip on it, and I broke the relay
and my buddy tested to broken one. It did not
work because it had a wire on it when the
little fine wires broke, and I went up and bought
a brand new relay. I have not put it in
the vehicle. I just got home, uh to try that out.
(41:08):
But the internet said, don't drive the car when it's
like this. But if it started, I don't know why
you can't drive the car, but they said it could
ruin something.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Well if the if the starter stayed well, well the
probably online when you're reading that a lot of times.
I mean, so when you hooked the battery up, does
it start the car up normally as if you're turning
the key or is it or is it grinding?
Speaker 7 (41:32):
As soon as I hit the positive terminal. As soon
as I hit that positive terminal, it just started up
like normal, like I was turning the key.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Yes, okay, but but it wasn't grinding right, It was
only grinding when you turn the key like that.
Speaker 7 (41:46):
The starter was not engaged and it was just running
like normal.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Yeah, I'm I you know, man, I would I am,
I would think and would start with the starter. I
don't think, man, I've never I don't think the ignition
switches bad.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I don't think it's the starter relay.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
You did buy a new one, But I would keep
the relay out and then put the battery in, and
then then put the relay in as it's as you know,
as you've got the battery hooked up, just to see
what happens, just to see what it.
Speaker 7 (42:24):
Does, to see if it clicks or anything.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Uh huh, see if you can feel it clicking. Okay,
but it's probably the starter.
Speaker 7 (42:35):
Would it be the starter or the selenoid.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Well, it'd be the syllnoid. But you can't buy just
the CYLINDERID. You're gonna have to buy the whole starter.
Speaker 7 (42:43):
Okay, Well that's what I was hoping not to do
in this weather.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Yeah, I understand. But most likely, like you said, could
be the relay. But you're got you're getting a new one.
So if that old relay was bad in theory, if
if you know, if that old relay was bad, now
you've replaced it with a new one.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
And if you put the if you.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Put the battery on there, if you put the battery
cables on there, and you put the relay in, and
it still starts, and it's the starter because you've changed
the relay.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
So it's a new relay.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Right, So we've eliminated we've eliminated that, you know, because
what happens is a relay can get stuck on one side.
Speaker 6 (43:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
A relay is kind of like a switch, right, it
goes back and forth. So if so, if that relay
was bad and you've replaced it with a new one
and it still does it, then we've eliminated the fact
that most likely it's not the relay, it's the starter.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
No, I just got home and I haven't tried it yet.
I decided to call yet, leave.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
The relay out, put the battery together, put the battery on,
and then throw the relay in there and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
If it starts, then it needs a starter.
Speaker 7 (43:52):
Okay, alrighty call me back, let.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Me know, all right, you too, alright, all right, bye bye?
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Oh Man, love love cars, gotta love cars, so they
can be so much fun.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
But I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Ninety eight four Runner one of the probably in my opinion,
one of the best built bulletproof vehicles ever out on
the road. I mean, those things were tanks on the
only issue that they really had was the frames would
rot out. If any of you have a Tacoma or
a front for Runner, you know what I'm talking about.
The frames rust out, and Toya did have like a
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extended warranty on some of them, but not all of them.
So if you've got one, have the frame inspected and
if it is bad, see if you're covered under the recall.
But man, those things were those things were great. So
all right, I do really appreciate everybody calling in. Everybody,
I hope again, hope you had a great Thanksgiving. And
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it's crunch time for the holidays here. Stay warm and
get that Christmas shopping ready. I'll be back next Saturday
to answer all of your car questions. Thank you so much, everybody.
Thank you, have a great weekend. You're listening to the
Car Show on fifty five k r c D talk station.
She's real find my formal nice of all. Good afternoon,
and welcome to the car show. I'm Dane Donovan taking
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all of your car questions. The number to call five
one three seven fifty five hundred. That number again, five
one three seven fifty five hundred. It's a gorgeous but
chilly day. But hope everybody enjoyed their Thanksgiving. Hope. Uh,
it's always good to get around family and friends again.
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And I see him, and uh, we went to a
we went to a dinner last night, not a thanks obviously,
not a Thanksgiving dinner, but just dinner with some family
we haven't seen it in a while. And good time
to you know, just catch up and catch up on things,
you know, we get our lives just get.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So oh man, we get so busy and complicated.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I mean, I remember when I was younger and you
felt like you had all the time in the world
to get things done. Now it's like I can't even
make it here on time. So just always something, you know,
And but you know, again, we give our guys, you know, obviously,
we give our guys.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Thanksgiving off, paid holiday for them.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And then years ago the guys all wanted it off
Fridays because you know, they want to spend time with family.
So they all said, hey, listen, well we can close
on Friday. You don't have to pay us, and you
know they can use the sick day of vacation day.
And man, by god, they they love that. They love
that four day weekend. So I mean, don't get don't
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get me wrong, I love it too. It is nice
to get some things done around the house. Although I
haven't got anything done around the house. We had some
we had some family and friends over on Thanksgiving when
to my in laws, and then yesterday was just a blur.
Yesterday was busy and we got to go to the
UC football game later today.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
That's gonna be a cold one and so.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, but again, I hope everybody had a good, joyful
and happy Thanksgiving. Now we've now it's the hustle and
bustle of the holidays. Got to get that Christmas shopping
done and drove past the mall to get here. It
is absolutely packed. I don't think you could pay me
to be in the mall right now with all those people,
But I know a lot of people enjoy it. I'm
not the shopper myself, but uh, you know, luckily you
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can do it from home, right So, but yeah, so
hope everybody's doing well. But again, I'm here to take
all your all of your car questions, and I'm gonna
call five one three seven fifty five hundred. That number again,
five one three fifty five hundred. You know, we talked
about it last week, you know, snow and then they
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just said it. If you were listening earlier, they're talking
about us getting some more snow here coming up.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And again we've I've been leading up to it.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
This is the time of the year that we really
really need to get the cars in, get them inspected.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Again.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
When I got into this business twenty five years ago,
you know, a lot and I'm talking a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well two things. Well, a lot of people would bring
their car in.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Hey, I need to have it winter eyes, I need
to have it checked over for winter right now.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yes, cars have advanced, they are a little different. You know.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It was always like check my coolant, check my belts,
my hoses, my battery and stuff like that. Now your belts,
your hoses, your coolant are gonna be fine. They almost
rarely ever go bad. Right, you still need to replace
your coolant, but you still need to check the battery.
You need to make sure that you know your wipers
are replaced. It's the hardest thing for me to try
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to sell his wiper blades.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Nobody wants to buy wiper blades, but I'm telling you
it's important.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So getting it in, getting it checked out, and making
sure that you're ready for winter. I mean, we don't
know what kind of now. Luckily, lately we've had some
pretty mild winners. Hasn't gotten too bad, right, but this
extreme cold snap, you know when when it goes to
you know, forties or fifties and all of a sudden
we get down to the thirties, that reeks havoc on cars.
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That's that's that's hard on cars. So if you can
prevent a breakdown or prevent some type of you know, headache,
why not do it. So now's the time again, continue
to tell everybody you got to get them in, got
to get them inspected, get them ready for winter.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
The other thing is the tires.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You heard me, We talk about it all the time,
making sure your tires are ready for winter. We always
have a massive influx of people who want tires. That
very first deep snow and people can't get around town.
It's all of a sudden, I'm like, oh man, I
need tires, and a lot of times we can't get
to everybody because we've got all of these people that
want tires all at once, and you know, and it's hard.
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So now's the time to start thinking about those things.
And you know, again, we're going into the holidays. If
no nobody wants to get tires for Christmas, but hey,
I mean, you know, we have gift cards.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
We can you know, think about that.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
If your son or your daughter's in town from college
right which that most people are, and then they're they're
they're gone for a little bit and then they come
back at Christmas time. If you think your daughter or
son needs some tires or need to get the car
inspected while they're home for the holidays, now's the time
to do it. Now it's the time to start scheduling
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because again, I can't tell you how many people, oh man,
I had on Wednesday, right before Thanksgiving, I had a
ton of people. I probably I took probably about five
ten phone calls or like hey, everybody was like, hey,
I'm in town, my car just broke down, or hey,
my daughter's in town, can you get her into today?
(05:48):
And you know, the day before Thanksgiving, And unfortunately we
have a schedule, and it's like, I can't.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
You know, I want to be able to help everybody.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I want to be able to get to everybody's cars
and fix everybody's cars. But I can't do that effectively
if everybody waits till the last minute, right, I know
in our culture, and you know I can be you know,
I tooting my own horn here because I mean I
do the same.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Thing from from time to time.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I don't call my dentist the day before, like hey,
I need to get in for a cleaning. But you
know that there's just things that we can do to prevent,
you know, a breakdown or an emergency situation where you're like,
oh no, I can't bring my car in the Donovance today,
so I'm gonna have to go somewhere else, right, And
then we end up maybe making bad decisions, and somebody
tells you that you need something that you don't, and
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so it's it's time to think about it. And it's
really funny when my grandfather started down an entire sixty
six years ago, like Friday, the day after, you know,
black fire, the day after. I've been told I did
not witness it, but I've been told that was the
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busiest day of the year for us in the entire business,
because that's when everybody put their snow tires on. This
is what I'm being told by my father and my uncles, like, man,
it was the busiest day, busiest day. And uh snow tires,
I mean those are we don't even talk about that anymore.
I might have one or two customers a year that
come in they want their snow tires put on.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
You just you don't typically see it anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
So it's it's just kind of funny how how the
industry itself has has, you know, changed, Right, we'd get
the cars in, you change oil every three thousand miles,
you get the car major service every thirty thousand miles,
and now it's you know, changing oil every five thousand
miles and tune up said one hundred thousand miles. And
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used to have snow tires and now you don't. It's
just something that it's just crazy how the industry has changed,
but you still have to get the car looked at
and get it in.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
So all right, I'm taking your phone calls and I'm
gonna call five on.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Three seven fifty five hundred that number again five one,
three seven four nine fifty five hundred.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Again.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Phone lines are wide open. If you've got a car question,
love to hear from you, So phone lines again wide open.
I'll get your right in some you're listening to the
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Speaker 1 (08:52):
You're listening to the car show on fifty five KRC
on Dan Donovan from Donovan's Auto entire Center. And we
have three local locations in Cincinnati area. We've got the
pleasant Ridge location, the original location, a Blue Ash location,
and our new location, Auto four and Donovan's Auto fourn
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which is at the corner of Montgomery Road in Dana,
across the street from Xavier University.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
And I'll tell you what we get a little.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I mean, it's it's so convenient for the Xavier students
that are in town that have cars and they need work.
And you know, everybody looks up car repair and you
know the the you know, the students can drop their
car off and walk back to the dorms or walk
back to the house and and so it's very convenient.
So if you have a son, daughter, nephew, niece, whatever
(09:44):
at Xavier University and they need car repair, send them
my way.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Be more than happy to take care of them.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
We do offer shuttle rides as well, so if they
if it's cold or raining or whatnot and they don't
want to no sense and pain for a new borah.
We have we have a driver and he'll gladly take uh,
you know, take them home, or take anybody home. And
for that matter, doesn't he have to be anybody any
of our donav Entire locations. If you need a ride
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when you schedule your appointment, just say hey, could I
get a lift to work or a ride to home
or whatever?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
You know, we're trying. We we do our absolute best
to try.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
To make it as as simple as a process as
we possibly can right now. Sometimes too, we do have
loners available, not not to every customer, but if we
have you know, availability or a car that's kind of
gone south on us or waiting parts or you know,
because sometimes these cars can be unpredictable, we do have
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that feature as well. So but you can find all
of our information on donnovantire dot com. So all right,
let's go back, let's go to the phones. We've got Opie. Hey, Opie,
welcome to the car show.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
How can I help?
Speaker 6 (10:55):
I hope you had a happy Thank Yeah, it.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Was just it was it was good, but I you know,
I got to I got to take a nap.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You know, you know, you know, when you're take a nap,
watch football.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
You know you're getting old when you're you're excited about
I got to take a nap.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Well I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, just you know, have having some you know, some food,
watching some football and taking a nap.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Man, I'll tell you what you can't. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
I thanks for a good day.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, you know, it's good to It's good to do
it every once in a while. I mean, if you
make a habit of it, there's a problem. But if
you know once in a while, it's it's a little
change up, a change of pace in life, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
So I enjoyed it.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Well, good you just talking tires there, I've got a
tire question for you. My wife has those very expensive,
big large animals that she rides that eat a lot
of hay horses. And I hate horses because I put
fifty one hundred dollars bills into one end and you
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know what comes out the other. But at any rate, yeah,
trailer tires are killing me.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Number one.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
You can't find trailer tires that have a decent day code.
You know, they've been sitting on the shelf for three
or four five years. And then what she's got, she's
got the I don't know there's a ten flyre or
whatever the load range load range Q. And the problem is,
I mean, two three years, I get out of set
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of tires and they either dry rot, or they break
belt or they separate. And I got it. I bought
her last trailer. I got her a set of them
tire covers to keep the sun off of them. I
keep tire dressing on them. And I'm still two three years.
I know I've changed, I've tried different branded tires. I've
been dealing with this for thirty years. What's is there
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a you got a tip for me? Other than they
just make crappy tires nowadays?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
M man? How do I? Yes, I would say.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
That, uh yeah they trailer tires or yeah, they they're
they're they just don't build them.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
They don't build them to last.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
They just don't. I mean, I listen, I've got a guy.
He brings me all kinds of trailer tires, and you're right,
they don't last. They dry rot. They I mean even
though yeah, you're you're right, they break belts. I just
don't think they're made or manufactured like they they're supposed
to be. You know, they don't put them on it.
They're not made like a car tire. I know that
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sounds silly, You're like, it's it's a tire, but they
just the quality. I mean, I don't even the only
manufacturer that I know that's that builds a good trailer
tire and you may have even used them, is Carlisle.
That that's the only means yeah, I mean Carlisle is
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the only one that I know that builds a quality product.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Everything else is yeah. I mean it's it's an import.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
It's cheap tires, one hundred dollars tires, five hundred dollar tires.
There's really not much difference. So I didn't know if
you had a And like I said, I did find
that we get a little bit, a little bit more
life out of them. I got a set of them
RV you know them covers that you see on RV's
and put the put the covers over them to keep
the sun off of them. And that that given that
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bought me another sixth rate twelve months on a set
of tires. But you know, yeah, I didn't know if
you had any ideas. And I've tried everything, and I've
tried every I've tried every brand under the sun. In
thirty years, I bought ten or twelve sets of tires.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah I know.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I mean the same way as I just got a
buddy of mine he just bought a camper and you know,
a fifth wheel, and was like, man, I I need
tires desperately. He goes that they don't have that many
miles on him, because man, these things are He showed
me a picture of him. He goes, man, they're severely
dry rotted. And I'm like, yeah, and I.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
You just looked you look through the craw to see
if they got air in them?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I mean no, I I just think, to be honest
with you, I just don't think they build them with quality.
I just think it's you know, they're the you know,
probably a majority of them or most of them are
made over in China, shipped over here, and then we'd
throw them on our trailers and are But no, I.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Don't have there's no other secret there. I think.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
The only other thing that you could do, now this
is not not possible for everybody on the only thing
that I could think of is putting it in.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
A a uh, you know, a.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Heated, an air conditioned garage and completely out of the ailments.
I know, right, I mean, it's not gonna happen, So no,
there's no secret. Unfortunately, I do not have a secret
for that. But that's a great that's a great question.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I mean, the only thing.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
The while I got you, While I got you, can
I plug our Toys for Toss event?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you've you've mentioned it before.
That's coming up, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Next Saturday, December the seventh, from eight to five at
Horsepower Farm in Middletown is our big Toys for Toss event.
Santa Claus will be parachuting in whether permitting about eleven o'clock.
We'll have coffee and donuts in the morning. We'll be
taking toy donations, cash donations, and then we all everything
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gets all divvd up between Butler, Warren, Montgomery, Green, Hamilton
County and northern Kentucky. So we cover more ground than
the grass, all right, So if people are worried about it,
if people are worried about it staying local, we spread
the wealth all over the place where one of the
biggest drop off points in southwestern Ohio.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Okay, well, great man, great cause, so.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Come out to our cars and coffee and come out
and hang out and have good time and a lot
of fun and fellowship, and we solve the world's problems.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
There.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
You go there likely to believe that.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Hey one, Uh no, you're doing a good thing.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
So all right, well, thank you, thank you for your help,
and you have a wonderful weekend and hopefully I'll see
you at the farm.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
All right, sounds great, so great? Cause me. Toys for Tots.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I mean, we do have at all of our donal
locations as well.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Toys is. Toys for Tots is great.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
We we we worked with them for a while and
typically what we would do is we'd give a ten
percent discount if you brought in a toy, and for
some reason, I just couldn't get anybody bring a toy in.
But uh, we now have so we do something and
I've talked about it before Peyton's lemonade stand.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
We've been doing that for years. And many of you
may know or may not know.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
That my son at two and a half was diagnosed
with cancer and uh, he's doing he's doing great.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
He's in remission. And but.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
You know, being in that hospital and kind of seeing
what life is like living out of a hospital, it's
it's not uh it's not for the faint and heart.
I mean it's it's it's difficult. So uh Painton's Lemonade Stand. Uh,
they she raises money for for kids you know that
are in the hospital, children, children's hospital whatnot, and to
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give them gifts and stuff like that. So uh, they
do a big lemonade stand all over the city. You
if you if you're interested in doing it, you know, Uh,
it's a great cause.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
We do one.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
But then also they do have like a like a
giving tree. So all of our locations has a has
a giving tree. You can just come in, pull a
lemon off the off the Christmas tree and it's some
a child's you know, wish of you know, one of
I know, my wife pulled one. It was uh a
little child was asking for a baby doll, so got
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a baby doll.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
And it's a great cause.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And you know, we always want to try to help
anybody out that we possibly can because it's it can
be very challenging for families out there with kids and
sick kids.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
So so it's a great cause. So and again toys
for tats as well.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So uh, I'm taking your taking your phone calls and
I'm gonna call five one three that number gain five
one three seven fifty five hundred.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
So it looks like we've got is it? Uh? Yeah, Deanna, Yes, Hey,
welcome to the car show. How can I help?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I have a two thousand eight Chevy Silverado. Uh And
when I put gas in it, it immediately starts popping
off like it's full.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Okay, well all right, good, so I know you got
to keep it done. So most likely is the check
engine light on it all?
Speaker 7 (19:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Okay, so you most.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Likely have a bad either the the charcoal canister or
what's called the canister vent valve is probably bad.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
So you've got what's called an evaporative emission system.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So basically your gas tank, the gas you know, it's
it's pressurized, the tank is it's there's gas that is
loost around on the tank, and what happens is the
charcoal canister.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You know, the government doesn't.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Want when you open up, when you you know, take
the gas cap off and those fumes come out. They
don't want those fumes to come out. So there's a
system in your truck. It's called the EVAP system. So
those fumes that are in the tank go into what's
called the charcoal canister. The charcoal canister filters those fumes,
and then you have what's called a canister vent valve.
That valve, once those fumes are vented, it vents, sends
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those fumes to the front of the engine to what's
called the purge valve, and that purge valve then sends
them into the engine to be burned. Okay, so most
likely the canister itself or the vent valve is stuck shut.
So what happens is is when you're going to put
gas in it, it's stuck up. It's you know, it's
stuck closed. So all that back pressure comes up up
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and that's what shuts the tank off, or that's what
shuts the point off. So what I would recommend is
getting the getting the check engine light red. I would
recommend that you have it. Not yes, you will have
to pay somebody to do it. I would not do
it for free because you want There can be several
things that need to be that. You know, I've seen
(21:20):
spiderwebs build you know, uh, nests in there. I mean,
there could be a there could be a lot of
other things that could be going on. But even that's
shutting off is because of the back pressure. And that's
because something's not working like it's supposed to do. And
if getting somebody to you know, diagnose it correctly, because
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what they'll do is they'll they'll find out what the
codes are, find out if it's the vent valve.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Because we can have.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
You know, they need to make sure that they can
check the vent valve, make sure that it's operating correct
or whatnot.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
And then sometimes these things.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Can cause issues where you're having to do what's called
a you have to smoke, you have to run smoke
through the system to try to find out where possibly.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
A leak is. And yeah, huh so it can interesting.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
It's it's one of those lovely government things that we
have to deal with. And so they didn't have that
back in the day, but they do now for for
for emissions or whatnot. But it's something that is not
gonna I mean, if you can deal with, you know,
having to just sit there and lightly hold the gas
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you know, I mean, does it shut off even if
you hold it lightly?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (22:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
First and after I get gas going in it, then
it free flows. Okay, it's mostly.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
In the beginning, gotcha.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I mean, I'm not saying it doesn't pop off later,
but it's mostly in the beginning.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Gotcha.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Okay? Is that expensive like the canister and the valve
and all that other?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
No, no, no, I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
It's probably you know, I mean if it's a canister,
I mean it says here you've got an O eight Silverado,
so there there is a an updated canister. So they
so the caniser comes with I'm almost certain. Don't hold
me to this, but I'm almost certain the vent valve
is made onto the canister.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
You have to buy the whole canister.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And then what's called there's a TSB, which is a
technical service bullet, and they have updated the canister so
this doesn't happen, and then you have to reroute and
run a different vent. I had to do it all
my wife's car because she has a GMC as well.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Pretty common problem.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
But no, I don't think it's too I can't remember
the last time we did one. I want to say
it's like five six hundred bucks.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Maybe that's terrible labor to do that. Yeah, it could be,
could be.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
A little bit. Maybe stuck with it.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
For a while, I understand, but that's most likely what's
going on. You have you have yourself a wonderful day.
All right.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Thanks for your time, you too.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
All right, take care, goodbye?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
All right, taking your phone calls and I want to
call five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred
coming up. We've got Michael and Bill. You're listening to
the car show on fifty five KRS the Talk station.
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Our goal has always been to put safety, value, and
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Speaker 1 (25:02):
Your car questions at number to call five one three
fifty five hundred. Let's go back to the phones. We've
got Michael Hey, Michael, Welcome to the car show.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
How can I help?
Speaker 8 (25:12):
Well, first, you're a gentleman with the tire issue with
the trailers. I had a similar issue, and my tire
dealer put light truck tires on my trailer. They lasted
quite a bit longer and it actually handled better. But
I had to have sixteen inch rims, all.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Right, so you had to change out the rims. But
he just put it. He just put a light truck
tire on there. That's a good idea, yeah.
Speaker 8 (25:35):
Yeah, And it seemed to last about double of life, huh,
and actually supported the weight better. It was a tantem
axle boat trailer. But the reason I'm calling, I've spoken
with you probably close to a year ago. I've got
an O six escalade throttle position censor. I don't remember
the code number was coding out.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
It was bad.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
I replaced it, still coding out was bad. Replace the
electronic gas pedal and it would go into limp mode.
I'm suspecting a rodent has gotten into the electrical harness
because literally I've exhausted all the part change out that
can be other than the wiring. As far as I've
(26:15):
even put a new pigtail on the connector at the
sensor throttle body. Is there a shop that is really
trustworthy electrical that could you know, wring this thing out?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Sure, absolutely, so I mean.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
So all right, so you put you put the Did
you replace the entire throttle body the first time?
Speaker 8 (26:38):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 6 (26:39):
All right?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
And then did you did you do an ac Delco
throttle body or like an aftermarket.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Like a.
Speaker 8 (26:46):
I've done it twice. So the first time was it
was an aftermarket and at a popular parts store, and
the second time was ac Delco from the dealer. And
it seemed to work. When it first started this process,
it was random. It seemed to do better in the
cold weather than it did the warm weather. So it
(27:09):
would go a week, maybe two weeks, go into limp mode.
You'd reset it, it'd be fine. Now it goes into
limp mode right after you start it up, starts throwing
codes and it's the same codes. I've got a very simple,
you know, the thirty dollars scanner, so I can't test
voltage between the circuits. But it goes right into limp
mode and you cannot clear it out of it. It
(27:30):
stays in limp mode.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
All right, So all right, So you put an ac
Delco throttle body on it and then the gas put itself.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Was that ac Delco as well?
Speaker 8 (27:41):
That I don't believe. So I don't believe it was okay?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And how old is that is?
Speaker 7 (27:47):
That?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I mean, let me ask you something. So after you
replace the.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
After you replace the throught of body with the ac Delco,
you were still getting codes and was it was it
going to the Limmo too or was it or were
you just getting codes?
Speaker 8 (28:02):
Well, it's yeah, the behavior is the same. It's still
with coding and going into reduced engine power. When it
first started doing this, we cleared the codes and it
ran for two or three months and then it just
would be random. You'd clear the code and you have
plenty of drive time. Now it's just continuous. It's it's
(28:25):
that car's not going anywhere, so set the back of
a rollback.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah. So two things.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
One, Yes, it could be a rodent issue where you
know it something got it? I mean, do you have
does it sit outside? I mean, do you have any evidence.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
That in the well it does? First and foremost, it's
a backup vehicle. We commute to Cincinnati. We live in Indiana,
so it's a it's a bad weather vehicle. Primarily, it
doesn't get run very much. Second, I was running the
vacuum cleaning it out, and underneath the seats was chewed
up paper. So I know Mickey Mouse has done his
(29:01):
work and been in there. Okay, all right, but I
don't know. Yeah, I don't know if he got up
in the dash and.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
So I just want to make sure that you did
have some evidence that rodents do a lot of damage
to cars. I mean, I've I've seen I've seen a
rodent one time, total car.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
They did so much damage.
Speaker 8 (29:20):
So my understanding is some of the insulation from manufacturers
actually contain soybean oil.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Correct, yes, that.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
And I've been told also that the plastic they use
it to sharpen their teeth on is what I've been
told as well. Oh okay, a lot you see, like
a lot of plastic that's chewed up, and apparently they
use it to sharpen their teeth. I don't know if
there's any truth to that or not, but I'm just there.
I'm just there to fix the damage. Don't figure out
how it happened.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
It's highly suspicious that the problem got worse and worse
and worse.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Well the other thing though, too, is you could have
it could just be a computer problem, like the main
computer of the car. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
So typically what we.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Would do is we would check the continuity, making sure
that we've got a good signal coming from the computer
to the throttle body.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
So you would have to check.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Continuity between all the wires going to the throttle body.
And if you've got good continuity, that means there's no
break in the wires. But if you if you're not
getting anything out of the computer. So if we test that,
you know, it's one of those things where you got
to pull a wiring diagram and you got to find out,
you know, which wires that are coming out of the
computer going to the throttle body, and you check continuity
(30:33):
making sure that you've got a good signal from the
computer to the throttle body. If you do, you know,
then or I'm sorry, If you don't, then yeah, then
we got a broken wire. But if we're not getting
a good signal out of the computer, then it's going
to need a computer and we're gonna have to program
it and whatnot so it can be done.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I know, all my you know, any of my stores
can do it. I know you said you're in Indiana.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
That might not be convenient, might be expensive, toe but
absolutely one of any one of my three shops would
be able to determine it and figure it out.
Speaker 8 (31:05):
Okay, all right, well we'll get a record schedule and
get it up to you.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Then get it up to me.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I'm at the so I am typically at the news shop,
the auto foreign shop, but you can take it to any.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I mean probably just located.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
It's not too it's it's ten minutes from downtown. It's
it's at the corner Montgomery Road and Dane. If you
just go to donovantire dot com. We're right across the
street from Xavier University. That's where I'm at. I've got
a great technician that would be able to figure it
out for you. So more than have you to take
care of you. Just call me at the it's it's
Donovan's auto form. Call me and just say, hey, you know,
(31:44):
sometimes I might you know, might be out running or
test driving a car, whatnot.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Just let him know that. Call me to say, hey,
it's on its way, and I'll be more happy to
take care of you.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
All right, Thank you, sir, Thank you you too, take
care bye bye man. That's the thing about electronics. It
can be uh sometimes a needle in a haystack. But
we'll figure it out. I mean, it could be that
the the gas pedal you put in there is just
there's so many with the way cars are made today.
I mean, thirty years ago, you, Joe Schmoke could build
(32:15):
a uh well, first of all, thirty years ago, you
didn't have all these electronics for a gas pedal. It
was it was drive by wire, right, So I'm sorry,
not trit by wire. It was it was a throttle cable, right,
so when you hit the gas pedal, that cable opened
up that throttle by that's how you give a gas right.
But then, of course we had to get way too
technical and we had to make everything electronics. And now
(32:37):
the gas pedal is electronic, and hey, it just causes
a headache for everything. That's so really, if you're I'm
here to tell you too, look if you will, I
will never tell anybody not to try to work on
their own car.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
My neighbor was like, hey, uh my water pumps leaking.
It's a it's a Ford explorer. The engine's got to
come out do it. I said, look, you really, really
I shouldn't do that. You should have probably, but I
was like, if you can do it, go ahead, And
sure enough he proved me wrong. He did it, knocked
it out and saved himself a tremendous amount of money,
(33:14):
and good for him, coodos to him. And I'm here
to tell you I would never tell anybody for the
most part, if you want to knock something out and
get a water pump or break's done on your car,
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Make sure you do your research.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
And certainly, if you're doing it yourself, you're already saving
yourself a tremendous amount of money, right, So just buy
a good quality part. Don't do aftermarket if you can
avoid it. Really, just save yourself the time and the
headache of just buying a good quality part, and it'll
save you, you know, because again that gentleman may he
(33:48):
called he put an aftermarket gas pedal on. It might
be the root of of his problem, or it could
be a computer issue or a wire issue, just like
you said. But if you're I'm here to tell you,
if you're doing in your own work, buy a good
quality part, an oe M manufactured part, Okay, it's imperative.
It's an important thing to do, especially if you're doing
(34:09):
it yourself. So all right, taking your phone calls and
number call five on three seven four nine fifty five hundred.
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Speaker 1 (35:05):
We're almost out of time, so I'm gonna go back
to the phones.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
We've got Bill.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Hey Bill, Hey Bill, welcome to our show.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
How can I help?
Speaker 10 (35:14):
Yeah? I talked to you several shows ago about him
about a fuse problem and trying to get some lights
checked on it that are on the desh, and you
were telling me the cigarette lighter is connected to all
that and changed the fuse, which I did, which I did,
And these big box stores are these change that really
couldn't read what my lights were doing. But my question
(35:35):
is I had to plug in a an air pump
and it seemed like it blew the fuse again. So
can the head of fifteen in it? Can I go
up to a twenty or yeah? What do you think
of them?
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
You can go to then? Yeah? Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
Figure that's what it is.
Speaker 10 (35:52):
It's drawing too much current on that air pump.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Probably, yeah, but you go you can go to a
twenty'd be fine. I mean I wouldn't go all the
way up to a fifty or anything like that, you know,
but yeah, you know, no going to jumping up to
a twenty twenty five?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I think, no, you'll be fine. It's okay.
Speaker 10 (36:10):
That's that's good to know. Any idea why they couldn't
read They read that it was misfiring on a cylinder
because I put new plugs and wires in and found
that problem. But it didn't show up any any of
the ABS or the brake system or or engine problems,
other engine problems that it's been having, which is rather strange.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Well, one of two things.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Either one the scan tool they were using is really
cheap and inexpensive and wouldn't allow them to go into
the ABS module. Or two Sometimes ABS and traction control
codes and stuff like that. Sometimes they'll be present and
then the minute you shut the car off there they
(36:51):
basically get erased and then you you know, so I one,
like I said, either they didn't have the proper scan
tool or the proper the proper equipment to diagnose it correctly,
or to the coach just weren't present at the time
that they looked at it. I mean, are those are
those other lights that are on in the desk? Are
(37:12):
they on all the time?
Speaker 10 (37:14):
Yes, all the time, and now he checked it what
the engine off, which I thought was rather strange. But
I can see what you're saying there. I mean, should
he have like maybe cleared him out and then maybe
they would come back again a little fresher.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
IM possible.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
So yeah, to to to properly scan a vehicle, Yes,
the car needs to be on but not running, so
the key doesn't The key does have to be present,
and and the car has to be in the on
position so he can get into the computers, but not running,
it won't it won't be able to scan it running. Yeah,
(37:51):
I mean he could he Yes, I would recommend, yeah,
going in there, clearing everything, just basically clear everything, wipe
it all out, start over and drive it and then
wait for those lights to kick back on and then yeah,
scan it again.
Speaker 10 (38:07):
The second And that's what I was thinking, I think, Yeah,
but I don't think he knew how to do that.
But but all right, well you answered a bunch of questions.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
All right, Well thanks for holding on for me. You
have a wonderful holiday. So so he wash got him
off there.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
But all right, so all right, taking your phone calls
and I'm gonna call five.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
One, three, five hundred. Let's go back to the phones.
So we've got Dan, Hey, Dan, welcome to the car show.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
How can I help?
Speaker 7 (38:36):
Yeah, So I've got a ninety eight to four runner
and it sat in the yard for about a week
and I went out to start it and the starter
just click click click, like it was a week battery.
And I thought maybe a door was a jar or something.
So I put it on charge overnight and went out
the next day and hit the key expecting me to start,
and it did the same thing. I went up and
(38:58):
bought a new battery, brought it home. I put it
in the engine or the compartment where the battery goes,
and when I put the terminals on, the car started
up with the key out and the ignission off. It
started up really and then and then after it started,
I wouldn't didn't know how to shut it off, and
(39:21):
I know I did something I shouldn't have done. I
went and turned the key to the start position and
it brian did like it wasn't supposed to do that,
and it shut the car off. So I turned the
key back off and disconnected the battery terminal and put
it back on and it started back up again with
no key in the ignission. And then to shut it off,
(39:43):
I took the air cleaner out and I put a
rag over the hole in the air cleaner and ithut
the engine off, and I did it restarted again by
putting the battery terminal on. It started back up and
I shut it back off. And that's where I'm sitting now. Uh.
I've not done anything since then.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I don't man, I don't think I maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I don't know if I've ever seen that happen before.
Speaker 7 (40:14):
Mostly the research on the internet either leans toward the
uh the starter relay, the actual ignition switch itself, or
a starter cell annoyed.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Well, you could if you wanted to. You could.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Pull the starter relay disconnected, but you got the battery disconnected.
Pull the starter relay. It should be underneath the hood.
Find the fuse box. Yes, pull the relay.
Speaker 7 (40:48):
Well, I pulled the relay and I didn't know it
hit a clip on it, and I broke the relay
and my buddy tested to broken one. It did not
work because it had a wire on it when the
little fine wires broke, and I went up and bought
a brand new relay. I have not put it in
the vehicle. I just got home, uh to try that out.
(41:08):
But the internet said, don't drive the car when it's
like this. But if it started, I don't know why
you can't drive the car, but they said it could
ruin something.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Well if the if the starter stayed well, well the
probably online when you're reading that a lot of times.
I mean, so when you hooked the battery up, does
it start the car up normally as if you're turning
the key or is it or is it grinding?
Speaker 7 (41:32):
As soon as I hit the positive terminal. As soon
as I hit that positive terminal, it just started up
like normal, like I was turning the key.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Yes, okay, but but it wasn't grinding right, It was
only grinding when you turn the key like that.
Speaker 7 (41:46):
The starter was not engaged and it was just running
like normal.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Yeah, I'm I you know, man, I would I am,
I would think and would start with the starter. I
don't think, man, I've never I don't think the ignition
switches bad.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I don't think it's the starter relay.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
You did buy a new one, But I would keep
the relay out and then put the battery in, and
then then put the relay in as it's as you know,
as you've got the battery hooked up, just to see
what happens, just to see what it.
Speaker 7 (42:24):
Does, to see if it clicks or anything.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Uh huh, see if you can feel it clicking. Okay,
but it's probably the starter.
Speaker 7 (42:35):
Would it be the starter or the selenoid.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Well, it'd be the syllnoid. But you can't buy just
the CYLINDERID. You're gonna have to buy the whole starter.
Speaker 7 (42:43):
Okay, Well that's what I was hoping not to do
in this weather.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Yeah, I understand. But most likely, like you said, could
be the relay. But you're got you're getting a new one.
So if that old relay was bad in theory, if
if you know, if that old relay was bad, now
you've replaced it with a new one.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
And if you put the if you.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Put the battery on there, if you put the battery
cables on there, and you put the relay in, and
it still starts, and it's the starter because you've changed
the relay.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
So it's a new relay.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Right, So we've eliminated we've eliminated that, you know, because
what happens is a relay can get stuck on one side.
Speaker 6 (43:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
A relay is kind of like a switch, right, it
goes back and forth. So if so, if that relay
was bad and you've replaced it with a new one
and it still does it, then we've eliminated the fact
that most likely it's not the relay, it's the starter.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
No, I just got home and I haven't tried it yet.
I decided to call yet, leave.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
The relay out, put the battery together, put the battery on,
and then throw the relay in there and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
If it starts, then it needs a starter.
Speaker 7 (43:52):
Okay, alrighty call me back, let.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Me know, all right, you too, alright, all right, bye bye?
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Oh Man, love love cars, gotta love cars, so they
can be so much fun.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
But I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Ninety eight four Runner one of the probably in my opinion,
one of the best built bulletproof vehicles ever out on
the road. I mean, those things were tanks on the
only issue that they really had was the frames would
rot out. If any of you have a Tacoma or
a front for Runner, you know what I'm talking about.
The frames rust out, and Toya did have like a
(44:26):
extended warranty on some of them, but not all of them.
So if you've got one, have the frame inspected and
if it is bad, see if you're covered under the recall.
But man, those things were those things were great. So
all right, I do really appreciate everybody calling in. Everybody,
I hope again, hope you had a great Thanksgiving. And
(44:48):
it's crunch time for the holidays here. Stay warm and
get that Christmas shopping ready. I'll be back next Saturday
to answer all of your car questions. Thank you so much, everybody.
Thank you, have a great weekend. You're listening to the
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